November 30, 2018 Show with Jon Cardwell on “Christo-Centric Preaching & Teaching” (& an update on the recent earthquake in Alaska)

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I'm delighted to have back as a returning guest after a very long absence my

friend Pastor John J. Cardwell.

He is pastor of Calvary Baptist Church in Nanilchik, Alaska and he is an author of several

books including the new devotional series Jesus Christ the Bread of Life and

today Pastor John is going to be addressing Christocentric preaching and teaching and he's also going

to be giving us an update on the recent earthquake in Alaska and it's my honor and privilege to welcome you

back to Iron Sharpens Iron Radio, Pastor John J.

Cardwell.

Well I consider

that a great

honor.

As

much of that as what you said was true.

And that is certainly a humbling and wonderful thing to hear.

Well first of all tell our listeners about Calvary Baptist Church in Nanilchik, Alaska

since the last time you were on.

I don't believe you were pastoring that specific congregation.

You may have been, I just don't.

Remember right now because it's been so long.

You're correct Chris, we were actually in Alaska.

That's

right.

Can

you

see Russia

from

your

house?

Well we've got a lot to talk about today.

Why don't you first of all start with an update on the earthquake in

Alaska that has been quite devastating in Anchorage I believe.

Yes

sir,

5

.7.

Are you aware yet

about

any

casualties

in

Anchorage

area?

I have not

many people in

Alaska.

Well

I

would urge

all

of the

Iron

Sharpens

Iron Radio

listeners.

To pray for the residents of Alaska especially Anchorage because you

never know there might be even more earthquakes on the heels of the ones they've already experienced.

And we ask of you that if there are any living individuals who are trapped

anywhere that they are rescued.

And we ask of you all also to pray for healing for those who have been injured and pray for the

families of anyone who may have perished and that this will be used

as a providential occurrence in the lives of the lost that they may be drawn to

a saving knowledge of Jesus Christ after experiencing this.

And of course that true Christians might be

even further brought to repentance and transformed lives as a result of this

if they have been backsliding or beginning to slip away from the

first love of their lives Jesus Christ.

But please keep Alaska in your prayers.

Now there's a lot to talk about.

Also because we want to have since you've been absent from our show for such a long time I'd like to have you

give a recount of your salvation testimony and I think it might be helpful after

you go through your salvation testimony I'm not mentioning it now just so I don't forget I think it might be helpful

to our listeners who may have been diagnosed perhaps even wrongly diagnosed with

ALS that you give something about an update

on your health report because of the fact that that is such a frightening uh

illness and you were wrongly diagnosed with that or at least there was a suspicion given

uh presented to you that that may be what you were battling which is quite a terrifying

notion but before we get to that uh give us your salvation testimony once again.

I

dropped

out

of

college

went

to

1984 and God surrounds me with knowing of the

competition.

Between knowing of the competition between the during different branches of the service I'm surprised that a

regular army or marine joke didn't come up in that discussion.

Great 85

to

be a

diver.

So he

worked

for me.

So I put.

Didn't

hear a word

he said

but

everything

that

the word was

bringing

articulate many of the

thing

that

I.

In

the dive

locker

and

they

go no

that's

not.

Well what.

Uh what was

it

that

made you know that you had a calling upon your life

to become a pastor.

Um surgeries.

There

I went right into the to the mission field.

Philippine mission field.

I didn't think I was called to be a pastor but I.

I love the shirt.

Great.

My wife.

I was stationed in the Philippines.

That they're they show.

Well the

Philippines

holds a

special place

in my heart because the children.

Or at.

Least five of the six children of the women of the woman who led me to Christ in the 1980s

are half Filipino and uh none of them are born again yet

but I've developed very close friendships with them and they appear to be being drawn by God

uh.

So keep them in your prayer uh.

But it's interesting how you brought up uh cursing before because a couple of them uh every

sentence had a curse in it and it's interesting.

I guess they just got tired of saying sorry sorry sorry.

So it's it's like that it's vanished from their vocabulary at.

Least when they're around me.

Well I interrupted you though.

You were going to say you're going to continue on about your calling into the ministry.

I believe.

Yeah.

I'll go during the gospel.

Well as uh I know that

my listeners might be rolling my eyes if they listen to my show long.

Enough but I'm going to repeat a joke and I don't even think it was necessarily completely a joke

but I'm from New York which uh the the second left coast if you will

and um I was speaking years ago with a reformed

preacher from Mississippi uh in fact he was a not only a Presbyterian but a theonomist an

elderly gentleman with a real deep gravelly southern voice and when he found out during our

conversation that I was from New York or maybe I just made it very evident by my accent uh he

said well you guys in New York you got it easy because all you got to do is get.

People saved.

We got to get them lost and then get them

saved.

I just can't help repeating it because

it's so

funny

but you know

it's

oh

China.

How about

let's

go to China

and

nobody

should.

Uh what you know.

You know one thing not to sorry for interrupting you but uh one thing that I have found it's interesting.

I don't know if this is as large a phenomenon as my own

experience would reveal but uh the United Methodist Church which is obviously known today as an

extremely liberal even apostate denomination and yet when

I have encountered people specifically from ethnic groups that

dominate a particular United Methodist congregation uh especially when they are

conducting services in a foreign language or so on like Korean or Chinese they tend to be a

lot more conservative than the mainstream United Methodist American churches lily white

ones etc.

I don't know if that's I don't know if as I said any larger than my own experience or that phenomena

right.

And I think that the denomination where if a local uh predominantly

Caucasian American congregation were were going into a much

farther right turn direction uh the denomination might come down on them

uh but they I think that they tend to leave the ethnic congregations alone.

Yes.

By the way when did you actually discover and embrace the doctrines of sovereign grace.

Um I

had

uh

early

that's right

I read

the

Pilgrim's

Progress

for

the

first.

Yeah it's amazing how universally beloved the Pilgrim's Progress is

even outside of because you are amazed that Christians even very learned

ones who are not Calvinist cannot see the doctrines of grace screaming through the pages of

that and of course Charles Spurgeon's sermons and anything he has written.

It's amazing that you have some fundamentalists and others who hate Calvinism who

claim to love Spurgeon and you wonder have you really read or reread the things that you say.

You love because how can you how can you miss the fact that.

He he believed in the doctrines of sovereign grace.

But anyway I'm sorry no that's in

fact.

We're going to pick up on Pilgrim's Progress when we come back and then we'll get into the meat of our topic

today fairly shortly after God willing.

But if anybody has a question that they'd like to ask of John J Cardwell especially about

Christocentric preaching and teaching although since he is a pastor we will broaden the sphere of

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We are now back with our guest today john j cardwell pastor of calvary baptist church in

nanilchik alaska and author of several books including the new devotional jesus christ the bread of life.

We are going to be soon discussing our main theme christocentric preaching and teaching.

If you'd like to join us on the air our email address is chris arnzen at gmail .com.

And john you are in the stage of your testimony in regard to your call to the

ministry where you had embraced the doctrines of sovereign grace after hearing them through such

great minds as charles hadden spurgeon and john bunyan.

And you were we.

Were discussing pilgrim's

progress.

If

you

want to pick

up where

you left off.

Yes

spurgeon

actually.

Uh and i know i'm going to butcher the quote because i don't have it in front of me but he said of john bunyan

that his blood is bib line anywhere you prick him oozes out the bible or.

Like that yeah yeah

there you go.

I would use this expression.

Now no yankee i'm sorry if i forgot already but where are you from.

Originally i was born in san.

Diego that's right now.

The son of a son of a sailor is in a song isn't it.

I think it is.

No i don't think it is.

That's why you and i probably aren't as familiar with it.

So you are now the doctrines of grace became but came i should say into your

belief system before you were ordained into the ministry or after.

Uh

before

which was

a

methodist

church that

is.

And

i

told my.

By the way just to let you know are you familiar with dr tony costa my friend over at toronto baptist.

Seminary.

Yes i am familiar with him.

Have.

Never.

Well he's a wonderful brother.

Uh brilliant and.

Yet humble one of those rare combinations but he is a obviously being on the faculty at toronto baptist seminary.

He's a believer in a very strong believer in the doctrines of sovereign grace and the 1689

confession and so on.

Uh but he is now on the pastoral team at a wesleyan church in

canada near toronto.

And the other pastor there is also a reformed baptist so that's quite interesting that this

wesleyan church has called two men on to be their shepherds.

Under shepherds who are thoroughly

reformed

saved in

a primitive methodist church.

That's right.

In a blizzard.

During a blizzard.

Right right.

And uh.

And believe it or not there are i have met pastors in the united methodist denomination

who are reformed baptists.

Who they they cannot i guess officially adopt the 1689 or other

calvinist confession as the confession of the congregation.

But they as a uh as a personal conviction they they are governed

by uh the 1689 or other calvinist confession uh

as their secondary uh authority in the church.

But anyway uh just thought i'd uh share that with you because it is interesting to meet them at.

Reformed

conferences

on occasion.

That's amazing.

I have

to move out

of

the

state

anyway to

find a job.

How

about.

Never

never

would

have

guessed

that.

Uh now now

you

have

uh

reached the

point.

Where you are a sovereign grace believing pastor and the lord eventually brought you back

to alaska.

And i'm

sure

that the

saints in

alaska in

your area are

very

grateful to

god

for

that.

Well i

hope.

That some of my alaskan listeners are tuned in today because i know that we do

have listeners in alaska.

We have received on occasion for uh quite a number of years uh

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Yes sir.

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And we are discussing christocentric preaching and teaching and pastor john cardwell.

Uh before we go into that major theme of christocentric preaching tell us about the devotionals that you

are beginning in january jesus christ the bread of life.

Well thanks chris.

Uh.

Oh no i seriously doubt that's the guy.

I mean that's the joke we used to have.

I've been on sermon audio for

like uh and i've

heard people

tell me

thinking they're paying

me a compliment.

I heard your show the other day.

Wow you almost sound professional.

You sincerely meant that i mean i love and i

did not go to the columbia school of

broadcasting

by the

way

so as far

as the

devotionals

i know you were intending to do one every month and the.

One for janitor january is already available.

What different kinds of themes are you going to be.

Addressing

over

the

year.

Oh pretty

much.

Theme

i got

windows

talking

about

morning and

evening

by charles spurgeon.

Certainly not.

Or i take

on projects like let's write a modern translation of

the

why

would

this is

the

gospel

be a blessing to

our

congregation.

Without

permission

i

just sent it to him.

Here you go this is this morning.

Uh.

And i

didn't

write

that i i've i

frequently.

Hear more than i care to admit people say to me i really loved your show the other day.

It was absolutely phenomenal.

It was life transforming it was mind -blowing.

Oh wait a minute that was.

Dividing line with james white.

Sorry.

Well we will keep our listeners up to date.

Uh about these.

Devotionals.

In fact you know this is a good way if you want uh john to make sure that we interview you every

month because we could pick up uh something from each devotional every month.

In 2019 from the devotionals.

Oh absolutely.

Chris i'm.

Oh

that's that.

Now um now we're talking about uh the main theme today is christocentric preaching and teaching

now what is that be to be contrasted with.

And obviously that would be man -centered preaching uh.

But uh we who are reformed uh and in fact anybody for that

matter uh when we are preaching and teaching

or when we are reading books that we buy or get from the library or wherever we get books

um there is a balance to be struck.

I believe and i think that you would agree with me although we are

not to focus on things that uh make

our lives improved uh as joel osteen has titled

one of his books your best life now.

And as john macarthur rightly responded to that if your best life is now that means you're going to hell.

But um it there there can be uh.

And there is tragically in the evangelical church at large an imbalance there where

uh your best life now and having a better marriage and all the other kinds of things

that we uh deal with in our day -to -day lives are discussed and emphasized in preaching and teaching.

But at the same time even christocentric preaching does not

ignore things like better marriages and better lives on this earth

that are more obedient and in conformity with christ himself.

Wouldn't you agree with that.

I absolutely agree.

Good is our

duty.

Well before

we go

to

a

break our last

break i am

going to read to

you a question.

From a listener.

And then i will have you answer it when we come back.

Uh gordy and mechanicsburg pennsylvania asks how important

is a pastor's hermeneutical approach in attaining and maintaining a

christocentric message.

That's gordy and mechanicsburg.

And we'll have you answer that after these final messages.

If anybody would like to join us on the air with a question of your own please do so now or forever.

Hold your peace because we're rapidly running out of time.

Chrisarnson at gmail .com is our address.

Chrisarnson at gmail .com.

Don't go away we'll be right back with the conclusion of our interview today with john j cardwell.

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And always we are now back with our guest for the final 15 minutes or so of the show

john j cardwell who is discussing christocentric preaching.

And before the break we had our listener gordy in mechanicsburg pennsylvania

uh who asked how important is a pastor's hermeneutical approach in attaining and maintaining a

christocentric message.

Um mechanicsburg.

Oh mechanicsburg.

Oh that's different.

That's a that's a that's a neighbor town to carlisle here.

Yeah i was thinking of mechanic.

I have friends in mechanicsville too.

In fact jeff uh downs is pastoring the knox reformed presbyterian church in

mechanicsville now.

Well he

needed

the heart

surgery.

He needed the

heart

surgery

while he was still living in alabama.

Oh from that.

Oh really.

Well he had the surgery in florida but i said but he needed it while he.

Was living in alabama.

Everyone without christ needs it.

I know i'm digressing i've.

That's quite.

All right.

I'm sure mike gaydosh loves the extra attention so people remember to pray for him.

And

patronize

him

absolutely

um 39

searches

scriptures

for in

them

you

think

you have

eternal life.

But they

are they that

testify of me in

the old testament about

that can be

and that because that

brings

up an allegory

a picture or type or model

that

gray has

actually um

the

gospel

is

transgressor

about

or

any

theologian.

Adams

for is

the

gospel

mark

which

is

our

joy

to do

because

this

is

application.

And

of course

there

are.

Our dear arminian brethren who sometimes uh when you sit and listen

to their sermons that you would swear that they were officially and

consciously theologically reformed.

Very often you have men who are faithful to the scriptures uh and because of

that even if they have not consciously come to embrace the doctrines of grace

through their exegesis they are preaching the doctrines of sovereign grace even if they're.

Unaware of it am i making sense here.

No absolutely exactly.

Well anyway uh gordy mechanicsberg you.

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before you stop by to pick up your free copy.

Uh we have john and bang or main who says i

understand that we should be christocentric in preaching and teaching.

But if we are going to be using expository methods for preaching

and our text is not specifically on the person and work of christ especially in the old testament.

And i must tell you that i know that jesus christ is present in the old covenant and that he has eternally

existed.

But should we then move on from the text that we have been preaching on and at the end

bring our focus to christ.

How do we do this.

Uh to remain christocentric if we are involved in.

Expository

preaching.

Uh it's a lot

of

it

takes a

lot of

time

on

the

knees it

takes a lot of asking

the four verses

of found it out.

Well we are out of time

and we're going to have to have you back.

To continue the theme of christocentric preaching soon.

Uh thank you john.

Give us your mailing address.

Because you've also won a free copy of jesus the bread of life.

And uh i just want to thank everybody for listening today especially those who took the time to write.

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Nanilchik it sounds yiddish.

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Thank you so much uh brother john for being our guest today.

I look forward to your frequent return to iron sharp and zion radio.

Thank you chris.

I want everybody to have a safe and blessed and joyful weekend and lord's day.

And i want you all to always remember for the rest of your lives that jesus christ is a far greater savior than you

are a sinner amen.