Becoming Better Theologians: Quiz 2

Father in heaven we come before you this morning having had the last few days to just enjoy our families for most of us. To reflect on your goodness to us father. I pray that as we gather here this morning that you would be pleased with our attitudes with our mindset.

With our desire to worship you with our desire to serve one another. Father, would you bless our time as we look to your word what it says about you what it says about us? What it says about our Responsibilities towards others.

Father we pray for these things in Christ's name. Amen. Well last week we started a quiz or we were finishing a quiz and we never got to the one that I handed out so we're gonna finish the other one and then we'll get started on this one, and we'll see how we do but.

Had a little interaction on Facebook. What is the purpose of Facebook anyway anybody know? That's what I thought. Yeah, good question. Is there one? You don't have to spend time with anyone that's good.

Well, you know it also gives you the opportunity for people that you don't meet all the time or you don't see all the time. People that maybe you went to high school with and you tried to avoid and now they get to hunt you down.

All those people you never wondered where they were and now they they're back in your life. Anyway. Somebody posted something on Facebook and I just responded with like I think two words. One word period another word question mark and I had to do with the subject of tolerance and I think I've developed what I think is a fairly good definition of tolerance.

Let me read this to you and see what you think tolerance. Being fully supportive and of an accepting of people who agree with your positions. I think that's what tolerance means at least that's the way I understand it.

Because if you don't agree with them fully you are a bigot. So it must be tolerance means that you agree with someone who says that Homosexual marriage is okay and all that stuff. If you don't then you're intolerant, I guess.

They're allowed to be intolerant. You're not. Okay, sorry. We were talking about last week About God and his creation and about nature and we're gonna develop that we were talking about the Godhead. But we're gonna develop this a little bit more concerning a Lot of the things that we say and I mean we as in Christians a lot of things that we do.

That are just kind of cultural. Maybe just kind of habits that we have. I mean, I want to like grab a lucky rabbit rabbit's foot. But a lot of these things that we do we don't even think about where do they have their roots?

Where do they come from? And last week, I think we were looking at a question number 15 on the first quiz. True or false it implies nothing when we use the term mother nature. Well, it does imply something I mean mother nature is a very biblical term.

I would not I mean it, you know it's it's something that we just use is kind of like a Placeholder. I think it's kind of a polite. Don't you think it's just kind of a polite way of not offending anyone by saying something like what would be another word?

We can use instead of mother nature Creation. Well, we could use Gaia, but that would be worse I Think Gaia being what that? Yeah, it's like the the really the personification of Mother Earth. You know the goddess of the earth sort of thing the false goddess of the earth Gaia.

Yeah, that would be bad what I mean. What's something else that we can use that maybe might be offensive to someone? Imagine if you said this instead of you if you said to someone that was an unbeliever if you said instead of good luck.

What if you said this how about? Good providence. How do you think that would be? You know accepted? I think this is what they do. They go. What are you talking to me about a town in Rhode Island for?

Good promise. Why don't you say good Boston? It doesn't they would have no idea what Providence is. But Providence being what what is Providence. It's God and it's the unseen hand of God is God's design and everything.

It's God's purpose and everything God pushing everything towards a single end. So if you said that everybody would kind of freak out Culver says this about this idea of mother nature. Says nature knows nothing in the sense of rational knowledge.

In other words, there is no mother nature. You know, we had a debate about which margarine that was that you know, it's not nice to fool mother nature for those of you well enough to remember those commercials.

I Heard pure parquet but parquet was the one number when you open up the little thing and it would say parquet. But oh, it's butter parquet butter. Okay fun stuff. Commercials just aren't that much fun anymore.

Another curse, let's pop away. We'll skip over that. Okay, we often speak of birds or fish as If they were knowing subjects, I watched a movie a couple years ago about penguins, you know. But how they march around and they have the little you know eggs on their feet and all the different things that they do.

But you know how many have ever seen the the salmon swimming upstream? You know, we see those movies. I think they showed those in the movie 2006 grade, I think that's what used to pass for sex ed. But they they would swim upstream and what do we hear when they do that?

You know, they're going to the spawning grounds or whatever and what do we hear? Well, they die, but what do we hear though during the course of them? Instinctive it's their nature. It's you know, isn't it amazing how mother nature leads them to Do all these kind of things.

Culver says this he says when we say the migratory salmon knows how to return to the place of their hatching in order to lay. And fertilize their own eggs. He says We use it to say that it's their nature, but he says this is an anthropomorphism.

Now usually when we use the word anthropomorphism, which is if we take if we divide it up Anthropos being man and morphism. Form of man, so then we would have this idea that we're using Form of man language language that we would understand, you know, the unseen hand of God.

Well, God doesn't really have a hand. So we're using that kind of language to sort of explain a concept. So when we talk about Salmon We're using anthropomorphic language as if they know something when they're just they're just doing what they're programmed to do.

They don't know anything salmon. Don't you know wake up in the morning and go, you know I think it's time to head upstream and kind of set up camp. That's just not they don't have that kind of rationality.

Let's look at Proverbs Chapter 3 verses 19 and 20. I mean it is amazing all the things that people want to ascribe to Chance to you know, some kind of impersonal design. Isn't it a wonder how this impersonal?

Unknowing Kind of Mother nature sort of thing just makes things work exactly the way they should isn't it? Awesome not Proverbs 3 verses 19 and 20 and who would read that place?

Bruce and.

What we're gonna see over the next week or two is really the the the handprints of God anthropomorphic language the fingerprints of God just in everything how he designs things how he holds things together and how.

When we really look at it, there is no room for some kind of impersonal processes behind the scenes sort of running things, you know when you have. How many if you have personal computers most of us do.

How many of us know anything about personal computers? For those of you who have a Macintosh this won't make any sense because you I don't know how you do this on a Mac. I guess you probably can but You know, if you if you bring up if you hit ctrl alt delete it brings up a window, right?

And if you click on things you can see what programs are open. You can also see what processes are running and even what things are running in the background that you would never know anything about. And so this idea Similar to a PC that there are background processes that we know nothing about that are just some kind of how somehow sort of running together.

To run everything that's just wrong. God is actively in control of everything. God is characterized in Scripture as a God of knowledge. That's 1st. Samuel 1 3 his spirit is the spirit of wisdom and understanding the spirit of counsel the spirit of knowledge that's Isaiah 11 to a Person when he impudently speaks of God's character in ways without consulting what God has said about the subject first is One who darkens counsel by words without knowledge or does that appear.

I Think the question comes about something like this. Who is this who darkens counsel by words without knowledge? Does that sound like anything you've heard before? Let's look at Job 38 right before Psalms Job 38.

And listen Job 38 verse 1 then the Lord answered Job out of the whirlwind and said What's the problem in Job? What what's been going on for 37 chapters? Job suffered. Okay, and then what? He's questioning God's motive and faithfulness and so is everybody else everybody around him.

You know his wife said hey Job. Why don't you just curse God and die? This is what's going on here. And you know, this is a great book. For our lives, I think why because we all come at points where we say God.

Why are you allowing this to happen or I don't understand how this could be any good or people ask you. Well, how can God allow that to happen? Well worse things have happened but he so he says he says us he after all this nonsense has gone on and some good stuff has gone on but God answers and says The then the Lord answered Job out of the whirlwind and said verse 2 who is this that darkens counsel by words without knowledge?

That's a mild rebuke and then verse 3 dress your dress for action like a man I will question you and you make it known to me. In other words, you know, you've said all these things about me now I'm gonna ask you some questions and we'll see what you actually know.

This is this is God. Culver says this the end of Job's debate when the free-living acting personal knowing God Simply overwhelmed him by knowledge of nature and mankind's ignorance of it in Job 38 through 41.

The only proper response to this was the one that Job made he repented in dust and ashes. So it should be with today's scientists which Culver points out is Latin for knowledges those who have You know massive knowledge.

They're the brains. They study knowledge who challenged God's rightful place in nature beneath nature and above it. And then he quotes Isaiah 29 verse 16 shall the thing say of its maker he did not make me or the thing Formed say of him who formed it.

He has no understanding and isn't that what scientists are doing these days? Shall the thing say of its maker he did not make me. Right, I'm the product of random chance. I'm the product of natural processes and then what else they say they say this.

Or the thing form say of him who formed it he has no understanding he has no knowledge. God is nothing he knows nothing. So and then finally number 16 the last question on our first quiz. True or false.

God's most amazing creation is the church of course referring to the building. No yes of course that's true. Why is it amazing? I'll give you a hint. We're gonna look at Ephesians Couple of I mean we could look at several different places, but we're going to look at Ephesians First Chapter 2.

Starting in verse 11. I mean we all know Ephesians chapter 2. Well chapter 1 the great doxology chapter 2 starts with you know and When you were dead and trespasses and sins and then he goes on to say but God made you alive together in Christ and then talking about That we were created before.

Or that we were created. We're brought to new life so that we can do the things that God created beforehand for us to walk in them. And now we come to verse 11. Therefore remember that at one time you Gentiles in the flesh called the uncircumcision by what is called the circumcision.

What what is that referring to? The Jews. Okay. The Jews would call the Gentiles the uncircumcised, you know like the uncircumcised Philistines. Which meant that they the the Philistines and the other Gentiles did not what they they did not belong to God.

They did not recognize God. By what is called the circumcision which is made in the flesh by hands. Remember that you were at that time separated from Christ. Alienated from the Commonwealth of Israel and Strangers to the covenants of the promise having no hope having no hope and without God in the world, so they were just unsaved Gentiles or Gentiles generally speaking before Christ were Outside the promise they had no hope they knew didn't know about God other than what God revealed to them.

But they didn't have a specific revelation and they weren't. In Christ, they weren't saved. But verse 13, but now in Christ Jesus you who are once far-off strangers alienated outside the covenants. Have been brought near by the blood of Christ for he himself is our peace.

Who has made us both one and has broken down in his flesh the dividing wall of hostility? By abolishing the law of the commandments expressed in ordinances that he might and create himself. Create in himself one new man in place of the two so making peace.

Paul tells us what the dividing wall of hostility was between the Jews and the Gentiles here. It was the wall of Jericho. No. What the temple wall? It was. What's the wall? What's the the line of hostility?

What created enmity between the Jews and the Gentiles? The law. And that really was one of the purposes of the law. We talked about the law all the time in terms of it Convicts of sin it lets us know what God's holy standard is and that we can't live up to it but the other thing it did was.

It made the Jews completely different than everyone around them. Not only were they not allowed to eat certain foods Which all the Gentiles ate they weren't allowed to wear some clothing that the Gentiles were there were all manner of Differences between the Jews and the Gentiles brought about by this law.

So what did the Gentiles think of the Jews? What's that? They hated them because this is a really weird group of people. They won't wear polyester. They're just completely different. Polyester being big in the Gentile world world back in those days, but Christ abolished that enmity that hatred.

Why it tells us right there in verse 15 that he might create in himself that is in Christ one new man in place of the two one new man. Again the idea of the church being a single entity out of two groups that hated one another.

Now We have Jew and Gentile together in the church the enmity of the law has been put aside Fulfilled in Christ and so now we have the church which is an amazing proposition in light of you know, if you lived 500 years before Christ you never would have said to yourself.

I can see the day where Jew and Gentile can really get together. Wouldn't have happened unless you thought the Jews were going to lay down spiritual arms as it were. Let's look at Ephesians 3 Verses 7 to 11 and what somebody read that please.

Ephesians 3 verses 7 to 11. Please not everybody raise your hand at one time. It makes it very difficult for me. Bob Andrzejczyk. So Paul says that it's his job his calling his I Guess his blessing we could even say.

To preach to the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ and to bring to light for everyone. What is the plan of the mystery hidden for the ages. Mystery that word In the New Testament often refers to what?

You know some kind of CSI thing that they have to search for all the clues and all that. It means something that that was not Known in the Old Testament was not clear in the Old Testament and now has been revealed in the New Testament.

We can understand it now. Jesus Christ is referred to as a mystery. Why. Because all these prophecies of him might have been unclear that I certainly wouldn't have known exactly who it was and then he's revealed.

Same thing with the church here. Culver says this he says it is not in nature. However, that God's wisdom shall be most fully revealed the Church of Christ the household of belief in the one true living God is yet to be the scene of the manifestation of that wisdom.

In spite of her all her failures here below and in spite of all her detractors. So, I mean here we see the manifold wisdom of God the unsearchable riches of God on display. Why. Because he's able to do what seems to be impossible to bring together.

I mean, what do we see? You know when we talk about Equality at the foot of the cross. We're talking about male female Jew Gentile. It doesn't matter what your station in life is when we come to the cross.

We're all equal. Culver says this earlier comments in this chapter on the will of God spoke of God's purpose and purposes. As later chapters will speak of his plan or decree for all creation the living God who is a person should have purpose in being alive and he says that's not a mere Anthropomorphism in other words God is a purposeful God not a random or purposeless God.

We know in ourselves that life without purpose is life without meaning. I Mean, how many people do you know that like that? I mean, I know of one young man that I'm very sad for. That I Facebook friends with and when I read his Postings I just think here he is.

He is a man without a purpose and his posts reflect the life without meaning. He is. I mean if you read him, I would unfriend him. Except he means too much to me. It's it's just so sad to see, you know.

Basically, every post is my life is terrible. Nobody likes me. I wish I could do something, you know besides live kind of thing and you just go it's it's. It's sad. And if we have no purpose in other words if there's no reason in our head that we are getting up in the morning.

No reason that we have that we're going to work. There's no reason to do any of the things that we do then we live a life without meaning and I mean basically it reminds Me of like some kind of science fiction book, you know, like 1984 or living in the Soviet Union you just go I'm just surviving.

That's all I'm doing. I have no bigger purpose. And so the idea of God just existing just surviving just getting along and having no greater purpose is irrational. We wouldn't think that way at all. In fact, we know that God has a purpose let's look at Isaiah chapter 14 Isaiah chapter 14 Verses 26 and 27 and who would read that please?

I think somebody was at the door breaking arms this morning.

Casey. Because nobody could raise them. I mean to be who will turn it back.

I mean this gives us what this this is a clear picture that God has a purpose. So the idea that perhaps there is some deistic God. I mean even if you want to be Thomas Jefferson and cut huge sections out of the New Testament to eliminate all the miracles and everything else you can't look at a passage.

Like that and say well, you know, there is a God but he's just kind of an observer. God is intimately involved in the details. He has a purpose and he's going to work it out. Finally Culver says this let us close this consideration of features of the spiritual nature of God with Paul's ecstatic exclamation God created all things so that through the church.

The manifold wisdom of God might be made known to the rulers and authorities in the heavenly places. This was according to the eternal purpose that he has Realized now in Crete Christ Jesus our Lord that was Ephesians 3 again.

He has a purpose and his purpose has now been made manifest. It's shown to us. We see it All right. Now we're gonna go to the unity of God of the Godhead quiz. We've been talking about the Godhead and the spiritual nature of it.

Now we're going to talk about its unity and we'll get into a bunch of rabbit trails as well. First note the quote there from Deuteronomy 439. The Lord is God in heaven above and on the earth beneath there is no other there is one God and that is so central to Christianity to our explanation of the gospel.

There is one God. Number one true or false. God is both revealed and concealed. True now listen to this. This is gonna take some unpacking here. But Culver says this one might suppose the Trinity of the Godhead to be more difficult to explain than God's unity.

How do you explain the Trinity the Father Son and Holy Spirit are all God? Okay, then there's three gods. No, there's one God. Okay. You just told me that the Father's the Son and the Holy Spirit are all God.

How can there just be one God because there is? So that seems difficult. He says you might think it's more difficult to explain that than God's unity. But I he gets to something else here moreover. It is correct to say that the Trinity like the two natures of Christ posed a severe problem for the early Christians to formulate in a manner true to Scripture and at least amenable to reason even if not fully Explicable.

In other words, it's hard to explain. Yet such is not entirely correct one theologian Wolfhard Pannenberg. I just like saying the name Wolfhard. That's gonna be in my next child for one for one has Delineated sorry how the New Testament clearly represents God the forever invisible dwelling inaccessible light God, where do we find that that he is?

Dwelling in inaccessible light or that he is first Timothy 6 16 Made known by the Son who is visible in the flesh. He cites Matthew 11 27, but we can go to John 1 2 and he says here that Pannenberg cites Luther's famous formula.

Listen to this formula. God is both God revealed deus revelatus. That's the Latin for those of you who want to be impressed by Latin is both God revealed and God concealed or Deus absconded this of course even even it my.

My latins a little rusty even in Luke and Christ says Luther. God is revealed and still concealed. Well, how's that? How is it that Christ is is God revealed and yet still concealed. Charlie it's by no means exhaustive.

We don't know everything about Jesus. We just don't. I mean, what did even John say? He wrote in John 20 31 that he wrote these things 21 That we that we might know him. But he said before that he goes what that.

All these things written in these book in this book if all the things written about Jesus were contained in one book. It would feel like you know, there's just not enough paper to write down everything that Jesus did and said.

There just isn't. So a lot of things we don't know. I. But the things revealed belong to us and to our children. We don't know everything about God. We won't know everything about God and even as Charlie was saying in eternity.

We won't know everything we'll be learning and we'll be growing in knowledge, but we will never come to the end where we go. Okay, you know, it's kind of like You know those commercials kind of mocking the idea of coming to the end of the Internet.

Well, I mean how much more the infinite knowledge and wisdom of God and we will never fully Get it Pam. We don't know everything about anything I Mean I keep and that's right. I mean, I just keep going back.

You know to how brilliant these scientists are and I've said this before but I really think that you know. The only thing that's kind of keeps them just grasping on to evolution is that they don't have something better to throw out there.

They know there are holes in the theory. But they can't get rid of it until they have something better to put out in front of it. But it cracks me up this idea that Believing in God is dumb. Okay, that's the scientific theory.

That's dumb. But it's smart to believe that the earth was too hot billions and billions of years ago to have any water. And so in order to cool it down and for there to be water. They had to wait till asteroids carrying water, you know conveniently dropped Significant amounts of water on it and then it cooled off.

Funny thing is though we don't get hit by those asteroids anymore with all that water. It was just a one-shot deal, you know a couple of nicely timed silly. Okay. It's very silly. He says here Christians have difficult they have had difficult to explain the oneness of the Trinitarian God to adamantly monotheistic Jews from the beginning and forever afterwards to Muslims.

When I talked to when I Preach through John chapter 1 or as I've been preaching through there, you know John goes to great pains to say that there's one God, but he makes it very clear that Jesus Christ is God.

He's trying to essentially witness to Jews. Not trying to he's he's saying look I'm a monotheist too. I believe in one God, but let me tell you about This other person of the Godhead. What and you know, I've mentioned before when you witness to a Muslim.

They're gonna say what Jesus never said and and you better get ready to witness to Muslims because they're coming to your city. Gee yeah, Jesus never claimed to be God which is false. He did claim to be that in the original audience understood that but they will say that as if it were an absolutely irrefutable Fact.

Why. Because that's what Muhammad said. Pannenberg comments and I think this is a good comment. The theology of the early church realized that the incomprehensibility of God applies to the essence and qualities of the Living God and Not merely to the statements of the doctrine of the Trinity.

What he's saying here is listen even in God's holiness even in God's wisdom even in God's Justice even in God's how whatever attribute of God you want to talk about there isn't there are no adequate words to fully Express and to make clear The various attributes of God.

We there our language restrains us it constrains us it and our minds constrain us. We don't have enough time we don't have enough words we don't have enough brainpower to sort all that out. We get just enough to believe.

Pam right and that that is the essence of faith. We we believe God said it we believe it. And that is faith it doesn't settle it. I like what pastor Mike said, you know the The bumper sticker should be what you know, God the old bumper sticker used to say God said it I believe it that settles it and it should just you know have a line through the I believe it.

So it just says God said it that settles it. That would be a lot more accurate. Well, I'm gonna get into Cappadocia here number two. Where is Cappadocia? Let's all turn to our Bible atlases. Where is Cappadocia?

I'm gonna see if I can find it in one of my maps here. Probably not or maybe it should be here. Oh, wait. Wait, I think I see it. Mm-hmm. Who has it? You have a Bob? Yeah, it's in Asia Minor. It's in Turkey.

I'm looking to see if I can find it here in the oh, yeah, there it is. Yeah. Yeah, it's just north of Syria and a little bit inland there. Yeah, and you know, it's interesting I mentioned this a long time ago.

So none of you will remember it. Cappadocia is pretty interesting. It was I saw this on a like a History Channel special sometimes those things are actually pretty good and they went into these mountains in.

They're not really mountains. They're just kind of hard rock formations that the Cappadocians lived in and so they had these intricate caves and it was pretty cool because they the Archaeologists have gone in there and they've discovered that they have these.

Basically like air conditioning systems, I mean, you know, they didn't have generators or anything like that hooked up, but How how they designed it so the air would move through there and run over like cool water and stuff before it went in there.

To keep the caves and everything cool. But what I of course my favorite part was inside the church. They had what? Baptismal fonts. You know for the early church which kind of goes hmm, I don't know that infant baptism really took a you know took some lumps on those archaeological things but It was interesting because the Cappadocians lived in these caves because they were persecuted by all the people around them.

Who would and you know, these caves were pretty defensible. So they would come and you know, the people of Cappadocia would just melt into those caves where they would be pretty much. You couldn't get them out.

They didn't have tear gas or any of the cool stuff that we use in the jails. So. But I bring that all that up just so we have some kind of idea where Cappadocia is and because they were somewhat isolated and all that I think that's one of the reasons why they tended to get some pretty good theologians and They they wrote a lot some of the early Cappadocian Christians wrote some of the The more Foundational Biblical truths.

For example, it was the fundamental argument of the Cappadocian case for Nicene Trinitarianism. In other words the Council of Nicaea. That authentic monotheism was the rejection of the many in other words of polytheism for the sake of the one.

There weren't three gods there was one God. There weren't, you know, they're let alone twelve gods or fifteen gods or a hundred million gods just one God. The ground of that argument was founded by Basil who was a Cappadocian who said this the terms one and only Are predicate predicated of God not to mark a distinction from the Sun and the unreal gods falsely so-called.

So what's he saying there he's saying that one and only refer to God period and they don't make a distinction between Jesus Christ and every other false God. They're talking about the triune God. The Cappadocians were the first to explain and defend at length that every attribute properly assigned by scripture or sanctified reason to God was fully shared Qualitatively and infinitely by the Sun and the Spirit no less than the Father in other words.

Everything that we could say that is true every attribute that is true of God. The Father is also true equally true of God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. You know, we tend to think of you know, like and I'm gonna use and And Anthropomorphic language here.

We tend to think of the Trinity is like the president the vice president and the Secretary of State. Is that correct? No, it's not. Now they have different functions. In other words, if we were to think of God the Father basically setting up the framework That would be mostly true.

But he did it in conjunction or in coordination with the Father and with or with the Son and with the Spirit. We don't see for example God the Father dying for the sins of the world in other words, they all have different roles.

We don't see God the Father acting as the seal. We see the Holy Spirit doing that. We don't see I Mean we can go on and on they they have different roles. Sometimes they overlap, but they have different roles but they're all equally God and have all the Same attributes in all the same quantity and quality and there's no difference between them.

Culver goes on to say this is an emphasis of their doctrine and Ours today as believing Orthodox Christians when we affirm the unity of God. It's interesting because Some people are getting away from that these days in terms of and still calling themselves Christians.

Number three and we'll close here number three true or false comparative religion classes are helpful in understanding the nature of God. I'm gonna give a false or a true, you know, depending on how you because that's really just a lame question.

So It can be helpful and we're gonna see how but ultimately, you know those classes Don't tell us anything about the nature of the true God because they don't really study the Bible. Culver says this the the scientific study of religions practiced around the world has produced a large number of special terms helpful in any study so he says Those terms themselves are helpful.

There are insights maybe not. But he says listen, these terms are often employed in such a manner as to indicate stages in a supposed Evolutionary development of religion. I mentioned this a long time before a long time ago.

And this is something that Culver kind of develops here. It's this idea that scientists have. Which is what you know evolution is somehow Miraculously, I remember this since we have we're gonna close here.

Anyway, Star Trek movie, you know where they go back to the beginning or Star Trek episode whatever it was. They go back to the very beginning of create not creation but of life, you know and they're staring at this little puddle and you know something happens where this inanimate Massive goo somehow brings forth life.

And you know, that's the that's the worldview and that's again very scientific very smart. Very intelligent to bring it to believe that out of no life came life and Then that that life spread. You know from a single cell to then dividing itself, etc, etc, etc until finally we're all here building buildings, you know.

Etc. That's very sensible. But he says they take that same process and they apply it to ever to religion and They say well in the beginning man was somehow, you know wanted to worship something bigger than himself.

And so he looked at Different things and he began to worship whether it was earth wind and fire that 70s group you know the the elements things like that and that over time as we got more sophisticated our religion became more sophisticated.

And that's the kind of the idea that what these comparative religions do is they say well, you know what? Christianity is all well and good, but you know when it's just kind of a more sophisticated version of Zoroastrianism.

Really? I mean this is that this is the kind of idea that comes out. He says such such an idea. However is not necessarily the case. Thank you any more than a classification of forms of life past and present on this earth necessarily implies organic evolution in other words religious evolution.

Doesn't mean anything. I it has no basis in reality any classification. Inevitably moves from simplicity to complexity. So that's what they try to convince you just like single-cell life eventually became Whatever, you know dinosaurs who then died during the Ice Age, but whatever.

But that's how they try to do that. And so we're gonna develop that in the weeks to come. I mean, it's interesting just to give you a little preview. How about this. There are people who wear see if you've even seen infomercials like this charms Amulets or other objects to bring good luck to the bearer or to ward off bad luck.