April 22, 2021 Show with Geoff Thomas on “Definitive Sanctification: New Relationship, New Purity, New Character & New Resources”

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His name is Jeff Thomas who beginning in 1965 served for over 50 years as the pastor of Alfred Place Baptist Church, a reformed Baptist congregation in Naboris with Wales. He is the author of many books including those published by the Banner of Truth and Reformation Heritage Books.

Today we are going to be addressing a theme, Definitive Sanctification, New Relationship, New Purity, New Character and New Resources. It's my honor and privilege to welcome you back to Iron Sharpens Iron Radio, Jeff Thomas.

Well, thank you very much Chris. You heard me yesterday that I was...

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The Necessity of Sanctification in the Christian Life

Well, this is quite an important subject today because there are, tragically, many professing Christians, and I emphasize the word professing because I am not confident that many of these that believe what I am about to say are Christians at all.

I'm not going to rule out all of them, but I think that there is quite a bit of mischief, as it were, in the professing evangelical church. And there are some, in fact there are many, evangelical Christians who teach that sanctification is an option.

It's a good thing, but it's not necessary. It may happen, it may not happen, but you'll still go to heaven. A tragic lie from the pit of hell. Wouldn't you agree that that is certainly a dangerous teaching?

And today we're going to be discussing definitive sanctification. So if you could, please define what you mean by definitive sanctification.

Declaration. It can't be maintained rigidly in the light of New Testament. With another buzzword. 11 of the five in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the men.

Some of the sweetest words I can ever hear.

Blessed conversion bifurcated. It divided them. What they were before in their past. And now what has been finalized that was sanctified. Sanctified. Depleted. After he says teaching in Romans chapter 3.

Reiteration. Privileges of to go to the Old Testament. A matter of morality. Wouldn't possibly mean that those vessels undergone sums in that. We're very conscious of that. That's mine.

Amen.

And don't we have to be very careful when it comes to this very important subject. Not to fall into the errors. The heretical and damning errors of Rome. That combines or makes interchangeable sanctification and justification.

And also avoid the error of those within evangelicalism. Who think that the reformed understanding of sanctification. Is the same as Rome's. And therefore they avoid it altogether as a necessity.

Yes. I've read shatters. For Paul is saying. And so they were a great exponent. And a very very important. I don't judge anything. And they give value countercheck. God be merciful. Wonderful dialogue.

Wash my feet. Not my feet only. But also my hands and my. They say would you like to wash your hands.

Amen.

And we have to get to our first break brother. And let's pick up right where you left off there.

Lovely.

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Christ's Washing of Peter and the New Relationship

Welcome back. If you just tuned us in, our guest today is Jeff Thomas, a well-known author primarily with the Banner of Truth and Reformation Heritage Books and also Day One publications. And today we are addressing definitive sanctification, new relationship, new purity, new character, and new resources.

And right before the break, Jeff, you were quoting from John chapter 13 where Jesus is about to wash Peter's feet. And Peter said, never shall you wash my feet. And Jesus answered him, if I do not wash you, you have no place with me.

And Peter said back to Jesus, Lord, then wash not only my feet, but also my hands and my.

Head.

And why don't we pick it up where you left off there?

Yeah. Out with Lady Macbeth. We're slaughtered through the Old Covenant period now. All that prepper from Immanuel's days now. Just as we once were, what we did, what we said, all but say, you need to do penance, you need to scourge yourself, purify yourself.

The demon had dipped himself in Jordan seven times. No need to from Syria. No need of a purgatory. A new relationship.

Okay, we have a question for you. We have Bobby in Hartsdale, New York, who says, I agree with everything that you have said, but is not sanctification also a lifelong process? It never ends, even though at the same time, it is a once and for all act.

Obviously, people are rarely the same in their state of holiness and walking with Christ from the day they were first on their knees crying out to him, and on the day when they perhaps are in their 90s dying in their beds.

Obviously, if there's no growth during that long period of time, one would have to wonder if they are truly regenerate. So is not a process expected and not everything to be accomplished at once?

Oh, that's true. I had a friend, Terry, and same seminary I attended in Philadelphia, and then he was called to a reformed church in Grand Rapids. He came down and he stood in this one by one walk past what he'd done.

And one day this happened. It was wrong. What did I say wrong? The heart breaks, the arms of love that compass me. Would all mankind volunteer to take part in the last chapter? They have fought the good, finished the good, the wonder, once and for all event.

You are sanctified. You are washed. You are set apart. You have a special new relationship, creative tension.

We have a question for you that is not quite on the subject, but it is not far afield from the subject because obviously the death of Christ is inseparable from our sanctification because no one will be sanctified unless Christ has died for them and all for whom Christ died will be sanctified.

That is what we who are reformed believe anyway. Obviously we are unique in Christendom to believe that second statement. And so I think it's legitimate to ask the question, especially since he, I believe, is a first-time questioner.

Gregory, who is from Middle Island, St. Kitts in the West Indies, he says in 1 Corinthians 15, verses 1 -3, it seems to say that Paul told the Corinthians before they were saved that Christ died for their sins.

In verse 3, if that is so, then how could Paul have told the Corinthians before they got saved that Christ died for their sins if Jesus died for the elect only? I think he may be jumping to a conclusion about something there, but go ahead.

Yeah, yeah. Well, the evangelist, I'm not sure about that, but you see, it's he died as the Lamb of God to take away my sins. And you've set it in a context of suicidal and despairing. God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

More than any man can number have been laid upon you. And I'm condemning their sins, and he punishes them again. And so we, because you either limit the partial call his name Jesus because he should save his people or all these people, you either limit the purpose or you limit the power.

He died for their sins. So that's how I would go about it.

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