November 10, 2017 Show with Ron Glass on “Smells, Bells & Climbing the Candlestick: Tracing the Mysterious Evangelical Odyssey into Rome, Anglo-Catholicism & Eastern Orthodoxy”

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And today we have on the program a very good friend of mine, of a friend that I value amongst my closest friends, who has demonstrated more concern and interest and excitement over my radio program, Iron Trumpet's Iron Radio, than anybody that I know.

His name is Pastor Ron Glass. He is the pastor of Wading River Baptist Church in Wading River, Long Island, New York. He's also the host of the River of Life radio program, which is heard every Saturday at 9 30 a .m. Eastern Time and every Sunday at 7 30 p .m. Eastern Time, globally via live streaming at eastgatebroadcasting .com.

Today we are going to be discussing a very controversial issue, and I think especially in light of the recent apostasy of Hank Hanegraaff of the Bible Answer Man, and titling the program today, Smells, Bells, and Climbing the Candlestick, Tracing the Mysterious Evangelical Odyssey into Rome, Anglo-Catholicism, and Eastern Orthodoxy.

Or as my guest today has recently, or just today, actually informed me, there's a name for this attraction to this kind of thing called ancient futurism. And it's my honor and privilege to welcome you back to Iron.

Trumpet's Iron Radio. Pastor Ron Glass. Thank you, Chris. It's my privilege to be your guest today.

And did I get that right? Did I remember it? It's ancient futurism?

Well, ancient future Christianity. Yeah. Okay. Well, before we get into that subject,.

Let's hear, even though we've had you do this before, let's hear more about Wading River Baptist Church of Wading River, Long Island, New York.

Wading River Baptist Church is a independent Baptist congregation, filling the word of life in this for many, many years, for almost history.

Wow. And I have to say, with all honesty and without hesitation, that I would strongly recommend anybody living within a two-hour drive, or depending upon how ambitious you are, perhaps even a farther distance than that, but anybody living within reasonable traveling distance, I would strongly urge you to visit Wading River Baptist Church.

And if you do not have a church home, joining Wading River Baptist Church, or even if you are currently a member of a church that you are increasingly becoming leery of, perhaps you are realizing as you grow in your knowledge of the scriptures that your pastor is quite heretical perhaps, or is departing gradually from the inerrant scriptures as the only infallible rule of the faith of the church, and I would strongly urge you, perhaps you're listening and you're a Roman Catholic or an Anglo-Catholic or an Eastern Orthodox individual as we are addressing today, I would strongly urge you to pay a visit and ultimately join Wading River Baptist Church, that being if the Lord is gracious to save you, and I would love to hear good reports about that because this is a diamond on Long Island, one of the best kept secrets on Long Island, a really precious jewel and wonderful church that I can't speak highly enough about, and I know of which I am speaking because I am one of two people that edits the sermons of Pastor Glass for his radio broadcast.

I have to turn one sermon into two radio broadcasts due to the fact that the radio show is a half hour long, so I am primarily involved in that and hear many, many, many sermons by Pastor Glass, and he is surely a consistent and biblically faithful preacher, and not only with the content, but he is also in regard to his homiletic gifts, he is quite a powerful preacher and a gifted proclaimer of the gospel, and his show, River of Life Radio, as I mentioned, is heard every Saturday at 9 .30 a .m. Eastern Time and Sunday at 7 .30 p .m. Eastern Time, globally via live streaming at eastgatebroadcasting .com, eastgatebroadcasting .com, and if you go to that website, you can also find out the FM radio stations where you can actually hear it on Long Island on the FM dial.

Hank Hanegraaff, the Bible Answer Man, and the Pull of Rome and Orthodoxy

Well, Pastor Glass, this is a very timely topic. When Hank Hanegraaff first announced that he had joined the Eastern Orthodox Church, and then very puzzingly, I don't know if I'm pronouncing that right, bafflingly, he acted as if, in fact, said that he hasn't changed anything in his belief system or teaching, which is just remarkably dishonest.

It's just clearly dishonest because he has decades of recorded programs that will testify to the opposite fact. But when you first heard about this, I don't know how familiar you were or are with Hank Hanegraaff and the Bible Answer Man program.

It goes all the way back to the original host, Dr. Walter Martin, who I think began the program in the 70s, I could be mistaken about that, but it was quite a while ago that he began the Bible Answer Man program, and then Hank Hanegraaff took over the program after Walter departed into glory for eternity.

But what was your first reaction when you heard about what I would call the apostasy of Hank Hanegraaff?

Well, I was a little surprised in regard to his overall way of, he's just simply not a great surprise to me. But let me also say, one of the reasons that it's important to talk about this, and I'm glad we're talking about it now, is that we have just passed the 500th.

I think this is a time at looking at this whole, I was a little surprised, Evangelical Theologicals. So I got a, here's one of the major books that they're advertising in there. The title of the book is Was the Reformation, and this is an evangelical, has published a book by a man, professor, who's part of the University of Illinois.

He has tried to help the readers get a Catholic perspective on several major themes, like script. He examines the positions of the Roman Catholic Church, as well as that of Martin Luther, and he makes the case that the Catholic position is biblically defensible.

But it's interesting how the article attached to this advertisement reads. It says that he makes the case that the Catholic position is biblically defensible once one allows for the variety of biblically warranted modes of interpretation.

You have to admit that there's all these different interpretations out there, so Roman Catholic. So you have this. Now the book concludes with a response from just the question, was the ref, the statement is made.

In one of the books, a book that Gilquist was, and was a church, and he has written a influential, it's called Becoming Orthodox, and in that book he makes the statement. So that kind of thinking. There's another fact, a little more now, rather well-known, officially took on, magazine is normative, and much of it's, so it's out there.

And this is a question that I think all of us, especially for what he did through Luther and the other reformers, now to come up against the question as to whether it was a mistake, or the statement that it was a mistake, it causes us to stop a little bit.

Yeah, well it is indeed.

Why Some Evangelicals Are Drawn to Sacramentalism and Mystery

Baffling why there is an attraction to a significant group of Bible-believing, or professedly Bible-believing Christians, into these different groups. And I'm sure that you would probably agree with me that, you know, if you want to be critical, the best place to start is at home.

And don't you think that there are things, first of all, that we can be critical of that are going on within our own ranks, within churches that describe themselves as evangelical, Bible-believing churches, that perhaps have robbed worship of the awe, and reverence, and the God-centeredness of what worship is supposed to be.

And perhaps people are craving for something that they aesthetically would view as, quote-unquote, religious. Some of the so-called worship services and sermons that are taking place, especially in the rapidly growing seeker-sensitive type churches, are those services that you can barely distinguish between a church service and a self-help seminar or something.

When I watch Andy Stanley on TV, there seems to be little that resembles what I would call a sermon or an aura of worship. But if you could.

Comment yourself on this. Yeah, let me say first, I became aware a number of years ago of what was called the Emerging Church, and that got a lot of discussion for a few years, until the Emerging Church sort of splintered.

But it was a rebelling, again, to be prominently involved in this. Young people who had come out of fundamentalist backgrounds, we could call it preacher. The other thing that was, in fact, the seeker-sensitive, the mega-churches, and what they were finding was in the worship, was a college, 40 books.

I wrote a lot of books, and several of them, the book that I first encountered a number of years ago from Robert Weber was called Evangelicals on the Canterbury. Weber came from college, and when you read the description, he was something of a hippie, I think, had come out of that generation, and was unorthodox.

He would sit on the floor with his students about existentialism and stuff like that. Well, he eventually took Evangelical worship. To make a long story of his life short, he wrote this book Persuading.

Numbers of faculty and students who had abandoned their Evangelical church. Now, there were Evangelicals. Well, so interrupt me when you have to stop. I want to just mention some of the things that he wanted, that he was missing in his Evangelical experience.

The first thing that he wanted a new story. That term mystery looms large in the future movement, whether they're going back to Anglicanism or Romanism or Orthodox. God can't really find the mystery of God's presence.

They're looking for the presence of God in a mystical way, and so what they tended to do was abandon what they call literalness, and they wanted to just rediscover them. Secondly, they wanted, and you mentioned this, they wanted a richer worship.

They wanted, they felt that the traditional churches wasn't the sermon. That's what he wanted, richer worship experience. The third thing that he wanted was sacramental reality. The idea of God working through that he grew up in, the university he went to, would not have held to sacrament.

That wasn't enough for Weber. Weber wanted sacrament in what he did. This is my body broken for you, and so on. Well, Orthodoxy. The fourth thing that he wanted was spiritual identity. He thought that he needed to get over primitive Christianity.

He came to believe that our identity is with God's people everywhere. The fourth is ecumenical. What Weber came to say is a fundamental Baptist church, and I heard message after message on separation, both fragmentation and formation.

You know, you had an array of denominations. There is no unity. There's no, you can't do that. You must do this. You must do that. Rather, he advocated what he called an ethical spirituality, a spirituality of experience.

It was an attempt to integrate Christ into all of life, but as you read it, what you find is it becomes a matter of feeling. He felt that he discovered, was longing again for the sense of mystery, or a sense of spirituality, or a sense of reality, of experiencing the reality of Christ through the sacraments, and an identity with the church.

Those are the things. And we're going to be going to a break.

The Problem of Church History, the Fathers, and Rome’s Claims

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And please only remain anonymous if it's about a personal and private matter. Perhaps you have some concerns about your own pastor and your own church in regard to this climbing the candlestick, which actually is a quite a humorous derogatory phrase that I learned from my conservative Calvinistic Anglican friends who are very dismayed to see how much of a foothold Romish belief and doctrine and practice has taken place within what is called Anglicanism.

And they call those that are transforming or morphing into more and more like a Roman Catholic pastor or quote quote priest or church than they are historically Protestant pastor or church. As I said, they call that climbing the candlestick.

But we'll be back, God willing, right after these messages from our sponsors with more of Pastor Ron Glass. And if you have a question, send it in right away at chrisarnsen at gmail .com. Chrisarnsen at gmail .com.

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Why the Church Fathers and Transubstantiation Do Not Support Rome

Well, we are now back to our discussion with Pastor Ron Glass of Wading River Baptist Church in Suffolk County, Long Island, New York. He is also the host of the River of Life radio program, and we are discussing smells, bells, and climbing the candlestick, tracing the mysterious evangelical odyssey into Rome, Anglican Catholicism, and Eastern Orthodoxy.

If you'd like to join us on the air, our email address is ChrisArnzen at gmail .com, C-H-R-I-S-A-R-N-Z-E-N at gmail .com. Now, Pastor Glass, it's up to you if you want me to go into some of our listener questions now, or did you want to continue a thought that you were.

Speaking on before the break? Well, let me just, what Peter Gilquist, Peter Gilquist, a worker, 1907 nomination of which then eventually merged in church, it's called the Antioch and Evangelical Orthodox Mission.

So, interestingly, he's got some of the same concerns. One, again, his concern for tradition become disillusioned with the Christian. They're looking for a sense, and that's why Anglicanism is attractive, Romanism is attractive, Eastern Orthodoxy is attractive, because they go back so far.

Now, Gilquist said that there were certain, before he was, as he moved into the Eastern Orthodox orbit, sensory worship, that liturgy touched all of those things from a rich point of view. Another thing that he had, another area that he had to struggle with, acceptable to the Orthodox at the Roman, but he did have a stumbling block because of his, once he got past all of these and began to accept all of these things, it was, it was not a problem to the Orthodox orbit.

The thing that, how little concern that scripture does not play a, let me give you, for example, historically speaking, the idea that the written word of God is formally sufficient for all things, reasonably good intention, Orthodoxy, and orthopraxis, all of that is not, of the early cantigraphs made an issue, people who've gone back into the Roman Catholic Church.

Scripture, they go back to the Church Fathers, and that's their major authority. Why is that? Well, here's another statement from a, Albert, he said, as any convert knows, scripture itself does not teach that the Bible is our sole source of doctrine, but rather that the Church is the pillar, and so, so when you move away from the Bible as your authority, where are you going to go?

And the answer, most of them, is they go to the Church Fathers, as you know, that it was very early on in the history of the Church, the writers and Church leaders, and they were great men, but nonetheless, much of their thinking, they go.

Back to those, and they're not even really fairly using the patristic writings to develop their beliefs. They are, they are basically doing what they claim Protestants do in regard to the Church Fathers.

They, they are picking and choosing where they are comfortable with what the Fathers had to say, and, or they are just parroting the Roman Catholic apologists who are, who are picking out exclusively a certain select group of Fathers or quotations that seem, on the surface, taken out of context to bolster their understanding, but if, if anything that has come to be certain in my mind and heart, being a former Roman Catholic, people may have heard a very famous quote by Cardinal Newman, an Anglican convert to Roman Catholicism, that, who said to, no history is to cease to be Protestant.

Well, I have found the absolute reverse of that to be true, and the thing that's very astonishing is that the Catholic Church will falsely claim that the Fathers were unanimously in favor of the vast majority of their dogmas that they have today, but there are major things within Roman Catholicism that are nowhere to be found at all amongst the patristic writers, such as transubstantiation, one of the, one of the most pillar, uh, doctrines or dogmas of the Church of Rome, that the bread and wine are actually transformed into the body and blood of Christ, that's nowhere to be found amongst the patristic writers.

They, they will discuss the, the presence of Christ in the Eucharist, but they do not go to the heretical extreme, uh, and even the, the idolatrous, the idolatrous extreme of the fact that Rome, since Trent, and, and of course perhaps earlier than Trent, but things that were made dogma at Trent, uh, you don't have the Church Fathers worshiping the elements of the mass and that kind of thing.

There's so many things that are foreign to the writers, uh, in the patristic evidence, but anyway, uh, I went on there for a bit, but it gets me angry because I know that the Catholics very often misuse the Church Fathers, and they do exactly what they accuse us of doing, of being, uh, cherry-picking what we want.

And these are the errors rebelled against. That's where they, I mean, these kinds of things you're...

Amen. Well, we are going to go to another break, uh, and what I'm going to do is I'm going to read one of the questions that we got, and it's rather lengthy, so I will read it to you, and I'll also email it to you so you have it during the next break.

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But, uh, let me read a, an email that I received from Murray in Kinross, Scotland, and he says, As someone who was an Anglo-Catholic before I was saved, I find it very disappointing that anyone should seek something through the medium of priests and man-made idols and decorations.

But why would an individual church or even a denomination be seeking anything from anybody if Christ is really all their salvation and all their desire? Are we really making much of Him? And I will, uh, I'll email that to you, uh, Pastor Ron, and you can, uh, have that in front of you so you could refer to it and, as you prepare for an answer when we come back from the break.

If anybody else would like to join us on the air, our email address is chrisarnson at gmail .com, chrisarnson at gmail .com, and I know that others of you are already waiting to have your questions asked and answered, and we'll get to you as soon as possible.

Don't go away. We'll be right back with Pastor Ron Glass of Wading River Baptist Church, Long Island, New York.

Why Some Churches Seek Mystery and Sensory Religion Instead of Christ

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Tired of box store Christianity? Of doing church in a warehouse with all the trappings of a rock concert? Do you long for a more traditional and reverent style of worship? And how about the preaching?

Perhaps you've begun to think that in-depth biblical exposition has vanished from Long Island. Well, there's good news. Wedding River Baptist Church exists to provide believers with a meaningful and reverent worship experience featuring the systematic exposition of God's word.

And this loving congregation looks forward to meeting you. Call them at 631 -929 -3512 for service times. 631 -929 -3512. Or check out their website at wrbc .us. That's wrbc .us.

I'm James White of Alpha and Omega Ministries. The New American Standard Bible is perfect for daily reading or in-depth study. Used by pastors, scholars, and everyday readers, the NASV is widely embraced and trusted as a literal and readable Bible translation.