Dead Men Walking Podcast with Marcus Pittman, Nathaniel Talbott, & Jason Farley from Loor.tv

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Welcome back to another episode of Dead Men, walking on your host Greg Moore, we also have

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Jason Hamlin. How are you, Jason? Welcome, welcome, welcome, everybody. And we're live from Fight Laugh Feast once again,

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Rapid City, South Dakota, with our best friend, our bestest, bestest friend, Marcus Pittman.

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He's a repeat offender on the podcast. We talked to him about six months ago, we got to quit meeting like this, you know, at Fight Laugh Feast rallies.

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We're going to have to get him more often. We did meet at the Fight Laugh Feast rally. Oh, that's hilarious. But you know, there's a lot going on.

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Marcus is going to talk a little bit about lore. I'm not going to step on his toes. But lots been going on just in the six months that we talked and chatted a little bit.

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Tell us a little bit about lore and what's going on. It's been fun to watch because I think when we were at the Fight Laugh Feast conference in Nashville, we just kind of started it.

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It was just at a point where it's like, okay, we're going to do it. Actually at the Fight Laugh Feast conference in Nashville that we got our first verbal handshake commitment from our first investor.

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Beautiful. And so that got us, it was like, okay, we're moving to Moscow, Idaho now. So we packed up and we've been doing it full time since.

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We have a brand. We have a sort of a voice. We know what our market is and what we're doing now.

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And then we hired a great chief technical officer and a

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COO named Nathaniel Talbot. We have our CEO, Maceo Jordan, and we got about six projects that are coming up that'll be on launch.

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And then, you know, we're just, you know, you don't want to rush it.

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Everybody's like, everybody's rushing the streaming service out like, we're doing this too.

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And they dropped one movie, you know, with nudity, you know, so it's just like, okay, that's cool.

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You know? So for everybody out there, that's the Daily Wire streaming service, you know, one movie.

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So for everybody out there listening, which by the way, we're probably only going to have one movie when we launch, but I'm just saying, we're building it up.

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But no nudity, no projects. So let me just back up. Right, right, right, right. So it's totally fine.

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So you guys are a lot like Pure Flix, you guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're going to have, we're going to have, we're going to have one actor to play the same role.

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Yeah. One actor will play the same role in every movie. It'll be great. Same writer for every movie.

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Right, right. Yeah. This is, this sounds a lot cooler. But for everyone out there, this is a streaming

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TV, or is it just movies? Is this going to be a party? It's movies, TVs. One of the things we're doing is a documentary series called

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Dark Holler, and it's a reformed take of demon possession. So we like to say it's a reformed ghost hunting series.

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Hey, he must be reformed. Yes. So, yeah, so the guy who made it, well, not the guy who made it, but the guy who, the pastor who's part of the series, he's in this small coal mining town in West Virginia, abandoned coal mining town, and people are bored.

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They're doing drugs. You know, there's not a lot of work to do or anything like that. It's a poor community. And, you know, so, you know, the kids are going into the minefields and doing

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Ouija boards and just really getting into like that dark sort of, you know, stuff.

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How do you find people, how do you find it, you know, like, yeah. Well, so, so actually a friend of mine is, is actually the one that messaged me and he said,

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Hey, I'm going to go to the city I heard about. And like the guy was talking to the pastor and I'm going to go and I'm going to film this thing.

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And I thought it was going to be like a documentary. And then the more he was talking to me about it, he's like,

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I think it's like six to eight episodes now. Cause it's a crazy. Wow. And, uh, and so, yeah, but I mean, you, you have this pastor, he's a reformed pastor or whatever.

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And he goes, yeah, they didn't teach me how to do exorcisms in seminary. Yeah. Right. I don't know.

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Like I've had to do them and I don't know, like, like what was I doing it right. I don't know. Like, so he didn't grow up charismatic.

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No, he's not charismatic at all. And like, he's still not charismatic, but he's like, you know, the, there are dark things.

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So it's like, you know, just think like, uh, I don't know if you guys saw the best analogy I have for it is,

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I don't know if you saw, um, what's, what's that, that there's a documentary on Netflix about this hotel where the lady's like in the elevator and she's like doing this thing.

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Um, Oh, I don't know what it is. I don't know. Okay. That's fine. Uh, but yeah, it's, it's, it's like that.

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It's like a horror documentary series where it's like, what is going on? Yeah. Yeah. You know? So really, really excited about it.

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Cause we're trying to make content that, that Pureflex would never put on. Yeah. And like, we want content that when you went, like, what's a good thing, like Christian films could be that, you know?

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So that's sort of like your tagline, the t -shirt you're selling, what Christian movie shouldn't suck. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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So, you know, if people are like, you probably, you really shouldn't, you probably really shouldn't say it. We're like, everybody believes it though.

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Nobody's come up to us and said, that's not true. Yeah. Yeah. The only people that have come up there, they've been, they said, well, we know it's not good, but you probably shouldn't say that cause they're trying the best they can.

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Exactly. Right. It's like, well, if they have good hearts. Yeah. Well, you wouldn't eat food where people are trying the best they can, you know, like you'd be like, yeah, that's,

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I'm not going to eat it. Yeah. Exactly. Imagine if Chick -fil -A was like Christian movies and you just go, well, you got to eat there cause they're closed on Sundays guys.

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Yeah. Right. Wow. So they're trying. So where are you at right now? I mean, you guys are accepting, you know, accepting and looking for content, investors, like are you, cause

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I went to the website and you kind of have a list there of everything. You're like, Hey, do you want to sign up and be ready to go and be a viewer?

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Are you someone who's a creator? Yeah. So if you're looking at investing, you're doing, doing it all right now.

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So we're looking for streamers, creators and investors. So those are the three main things right now.

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Yeah. So if you're interested in the platform and you want to get updates as to kind of what we're doing and how it's building and how things are coming along, you can sign up as a, as a streamer.

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And then if you have skills, if you've made films, if you have, if you work in the industry, if you're, you know, in Hollywood and you're like,

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I think my days are numbered, I don't know what to do. You can sign up as a creator. We've actually spoken to,

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I mean, we've spoken to like Emmy winners and they're like, uh, we need to go.

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Yeah. We're ready to get out. They're like, what are you doing? It's not PureFlix.

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Right. Okay. You don't like PureFlix. Okay. Cause they're not going to go to PureFlix. Right. Like they're not like, they're just, they're like,

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I might just, they don't like Christian Hallmark movies. No, they don't. Right. And so, so they're not going to go there. So it's like, well, where, like, where do we, where do we go?

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And then the other thing too, by the way, I don't know if a lot of people know this, but PureFlix was just bought by Sony. Oh geez.

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Yeah. And Sony's the same company, you know, that makes like Last of Us 2. Yeah. With like a tranny video games.

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Right. So it's like, it's like, well, so, so they're going to take the profits from the Christian movies and throw it in and they're going to throw it into these like gay films that make no money and nobody watches.

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Just to promote an agenda basically. Yeah. Yeah. And so, so, you know, that's like really like, that's not like, that's not a conspiracy theory.

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Yeah. Yeah. Like that's literally, that's how they. No, that's filed with the SEC. It's like, okay, well here's a profitable industry and like, how do we cover our losses?

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Like that's how every business does, right? They're going to cover their losses with the profits from Christian films and so,

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I mean, that's, that's nuts. No, it absolutely is. And so, so, so, you know, creator,

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Christian creators aren't going to want to go there. So, so I think the fact that we're coming out and saying, yeah, you guys can actually do what you want.

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We're not too, we don't, just don't, just no boobs. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Right. You know, just like do what you want, no boobs and like just make good stuff.

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Right. And I think like, you know, all the creators don't get that, especially, you know, people that work for Disney. Yeah. They don't make any decisions.

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Yeah. Directors of the films make decisions. The studio heads come in and say, oh, you got to add a trainee in there.

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You got to add a gay person in there because you know, whatever, but. Inclusion. Inclusion. It's called notes. Yeah. Well, funny story though.

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I was actually talking to, and you should probably get an interview with him. Our founder, Jason Farley, who's a screenwriter and he was talking to a guy about the movie

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Brave. Do you see the movie Braves? It's just a great insight into how the Hollywood industry works, specifically

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Disney. So Brave, you have the whole movie where the mom's like, you have to do this, you have to do these three things.

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And then at the end of the movie she goes, no, I'm not going to do it. And then she becomes a hero.

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Right. Well, apparently the movie was written so she realized

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I need to listen to my parents. That's how the movie was written. And Disney said, no, it has to be follow your heart.

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It can't be follow your parents. So they fired the director, the writer, the writer and the writer director at that point.

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And then they brought in another writer director to finish it off. That's why you watch the movie. It's like, wait a minute.

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The mom is saying, yeah, do these things. And she does those things and she does really well.

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And then at the end, it's like all of us listen to it doesn't make sense and it was terrible.

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But that's that's sort of like the stuff people have to deal with in Hollywood. And we're trying to tell creators, you know, just make whatever you want.

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Yeah. Like we're not going to give you input onto your movie. It's like, right. You know, but the market will. Yeah. You know, let's just let the market decide if it's a good movie or not.

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And you know, and if you raise money for the movie and people like the movie, then it's great. If you don't, then, you know, get better.

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Yeah. I think I heard you say less. Maybe it was last night. It was Friday. I don't even know. I don't even know what day it is.

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When you're here at these conferences for 18 hours every day doing multiple interviews, I don't even know what day it is anymore. You kind of said we're the sandbox to allow people to create their art.

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I think that's sort of that's sort of the key. Yeah. So it's like, you know, the Internet is giving us technologies that decentralize industries.

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Right. So it's like, you know, taxicab drivers had a monopoly for years. And then and then

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Uber and Lyft came along and completely destroyed that industry. The same thing is true with like, I mean, credit card process.

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We were talking about this because we got like we got those like square chip reader. Yeah. And we're like, man, you used to have to pay like five hundred dollars for like a

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POS system. And then like four percent. And then like four percent. And then I can go to Walmart and grab a square reader and set me up a way to take credit card payments in like five minutes.

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Yeah. Like that's that's pretty incredible, man. So like there's all these industries that come in and disrupt these these industries.

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And so but but Hollywood has Netflix, I mean, disrupted the industry.

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Sure. But they became a part of it. Yeah. So it's like they they're they're just a monolith studio now, just like everybody else.

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So so we're actually trying to say, well, what happens if we are like the Uber and Lyft of the film industry?

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Yeah. We just make it so anybody can make movies and make a lot of money on movies. Sure. And because there's a market for.

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Yeah. And not have, you know, these sort of executives making decisions for the people. Right. So. So would you guys ever release something like an

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AMC or, you know, a movie theater? Well, yeah, there's discussions about that.

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Like I think the theaters are still great. Yeah. Yeah. But I like the stock. I'm sure. Pump the stock.

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Yeah. Yeah. Pump the stock. To the moon. We're about to have a short squeeze. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll always pump the stock of the movie theater.

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That's for sure. But I think. GME. I think what we're going to see is we're going to see a lot more smaller community driven movie theater experiences, which will be good.

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And are you guys going to have a range of content, too, to where maybe you have something that's feature film length and produce that way? Yeah. So we actually do.

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Maybe have something a little more indie. Yeah, we actually underground. Yeah, kind of like that too. We have we have we have a feature -length film

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That that that we're gonna get we're gonna have a documentary series. We're gonna have an adult animated cartoon.

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We're gonna have Some kids cartoons and then a

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Bunch of a bunch of other things in the cartoon sections. I'm feeling animations really good. I'm feeling an animated cartoon

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To podcast Boys, we're actually doing one with Laura. Laura. Laura Clawson.

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Are you guys familiar with Laura Clawson? No, no, she runs a anti -abortion ministry in Canada called choice for two

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Okay, and she released this animated cartoon that she worked on with some like ex

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Disney animators About child sacrifice and was like really dark, but it looked like, you know, like, you know,

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Cuella DeVille, right? Like it was just like oh wow. That's a real Disney villain Yeah, but it was like maybe like maybe five minutes long

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I think and it was about like, you know the history of like people sacrificing their children.

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It was really good It got tons of views So she's actually gonna do a project with us too, but it'll be like six short

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Document like short animated cartoons abortion. So I like to talk about like really dark cartoons not for children

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Yeah, so but yeah, so so that's gonna be one of our projects and she's already making podcast rounds talking about excited about that Awesome, man.

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So if anyone's interested in either being a streamer a Here or an investor, where do they go?

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Go to Lord? Dot TV and then you can sign up you can sign up there So and we saw you down there both days already man

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You're hustling you're talking you're doing your thing But have you got to sit in on any of the sessions and if you did what was your favorite part?

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What was actually have a way? I'm trying to hustle the t -shirts Somebody to come and like want a t -shirt

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But I am gonna go to the Joe boot session, I'm nice to that one. Yeah, that's it. That's gonna be interesting happens. Absolutely Yeah, cool

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Marcus. Thanks so much for coming on Jay. Did you have anything? All right guys looking forward to lore

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Thanks for listening and it always god bless Check one two, wait, hold on.

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Who are these people? What we gonna talk to him up? I Thought you knew so we're

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We're the go -go dancers for this evening show. Nice and We're talking about a

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Christian view of go -go dancing. Oh boy beautiful men what it is about the high boots

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Are we ready? Yeah Between two phones.

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Yes We are and I am shaped like Zach Galifianakis. Yes, and I have been mistaken for him before You're not nearly pear -shaped.

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All right, I'm hungry. Let's go. Ready? Speaking of pears. Oh, all right. Here we go Walking picture

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Yeah, you're gonna be dead come on man go ahead it's all yours it's all yours run We are live from fight laugh at least again

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Oh Rapid City, South Dakota. What's going on? Jason not much man.

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We are having a blast out here in South Dakota Didn't know it could be so much fun. Yeah, we're on day three already.

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Yes. We are just finishing Resurrection Day, baby That's action. Who's that voice? Who is that that we just heard there in the micro?

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Do yourselves I am Jason Farley I work for lower TV. I am the

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Creative one. Yes, is that the yeah Yeah, right.

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Sorry. I'm a screenwriter Heralding yourself I am the creative I mean compared compared to nothing

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Yes What do you do sir? You're not creative. We've got that much First of all,

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I have to say I think it's illegal to have two Jason's on the same show So I will be officially going by the handsome one

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Yes, my name is Nathaniel Talbot and I'm the CEO and CTO at lore so Jason and I are working on turning

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Filmmaking upside down. Yes. Yes, and they do it with passion and In guns what

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Lore cancel Hollywood cancel Hollywood lore. Oh, you've taken

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Christian movies shouldn't suck Lord Love God and make what you want.

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Amen. Nice. So give us a little background I know we have the handsome one in the creative one

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So you're creative and what was your what was your background? No, I'm the skinny one. You got my name wrong. Oh, yeah

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Skinny is is it in your mind? Being right exactly You were a screenwriter author that kind of stuff.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so I pastored for a about a decade or so and And Became a writer and a teacher published poet wrote a novel

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Children's book and then landed in screenwriting a few years ago, and I've been working in screenwriting mostly writing comedy and Then connected with the folks at lore and jumped on as the as running the the artists

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Artists communication run run in the okay. Did you get some of your funniness from your cousin

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Chris? Well, we shared a van down by the river for a while Not a funny joke doesn't wait his or mine.

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No, of course me. No, we're both Jason we have Jason you're not the creative one.

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No, right? Yeah, so the skinny ones joke was funny I'm not very skinny.

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You've seen me or not Oh, man, and then Nathaniel's background because it's actually impressive.

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Do you want his? Yes Jason's like I don't matter at all go over here.

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Yeah. Yeah, so my background is I love writing software and I love building companies and I put those two things together created a

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Startup called Spreedly that still does payment processing exited that from from that a few years ago and Got a call from Maceo are the

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CEO of lore and he was like somebody recommended you we should And I came on as the

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CTO and CEO at lore. So I'm wearing two hats, right? To hand one of them off three three hats if you count that you're my spirit animal

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Bunch of hippies We started out it's such a that's

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Laura's other tagline a bunch of hippies and Toby started Jason found some beer somewhere

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I found a microphone Get on right now,

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I mean got some stuff in the works or I mean anything you can talk about Yeah, well, I mean what we're working on is getting a distribution and funding platform

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Completed and up and running to all the things So technically we're a tech company and Technically we yeah, we are actually a tech company

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Not just technically we're a tech company. So we're working on building the technology that is necessary To be able to free artists from the

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Hollywood Mafia So that Christians can get the get the shackles off and find the freedom to make their make their dream projects and not be shackled by Hollywood or shackled by the church ladies that have their way of right getting in Being their way to the top.

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Yeah, Marcus described it as pure flicks. Is that a Jason it's awesome.

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I said a lot of really cool projects coming out. Yeah. Yeah, we do. Yeah, he talked about six different ones

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Which ones of those are you guys involved in all those right now as well? Are those like being worked on outside of lore and then they're bringing them into you

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Like how's how's that work? So I mean some of both so, okay What we're trying to do is the when?

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Lore is like hard mode Entrepreneurship because it's a multi -party mark.

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It's a three -party marketplace. Okay, so when you Being a sort of a two -party transaction.

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It's really easy. You make a good product you go out and you find Supply you sell it to them. They give you money you're done. Yeah lore.

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What we're trying to build is a three -party marketplace The consumer so the streamer the subscriber the person that wants to fund things we have

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Lore, we're the platform. We're gonna facilitate the whole thing, but then you have the creatives and so you've got three you know, you're you're trying to hurt three cats not just two and so what we're trying to do is we're trying to Seed out the content so that we've got good launch content because at the end of the day the people who are going to be

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Paying us money are not the ones who are going to be creating the content that we're going to be selling So we've got to juice.

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We're basically trying to prime the pump. And so we're funding like we've optioned some stuff.

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We're fun Um Jason's writing some stuff to make sure that we have really compelling set of launch content

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Yeah, but more and more stuff is popping up all the time, too So it like even some things that we were looking at as potential for launch

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Back when we first started around November Now we're like, okay that doesn't make the launch cut of the launch cut anymore because Better and better stuff is coming to us the more and that's something you learn when you're building a company is the more you work

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The the more you're consistent at it the more opportunities pop up, right? Yeah, and it always helps when you're building something for God to like, yeah.

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Yeah, he gets involved serious. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, he makes the connections that you couldn't imagine ever making right on your behalf

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So what was your guys's favorite part of fight left feast? Would you like the best this interview?

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I think yeah, absolutely The yeah, yeah, so you are such a suck

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Officially my favorite part Week can we can we make a little bit of a contribution to Laura?

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Could we have our own our own little spot on it? Hey, you know, I've worked. I'd love to hear your pitch

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I'm gonna need to see the pitch. What's up? My people call your people. Yeah. Yeah, there's two guys

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They're traveling across the country because they have this lost briefcase and they get to Colorado They're trying to find this girl in Aspen what you just said

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That sounds dumb yeah, and dumber I Think that what

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I have enjoyed the most is the fellowship you yeah at a place like this you meet people from all over the country and you know just the way that the work of the

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Spirit in your own life immediately connects you with people whose Lives are being worked in by the

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Spirit as well. I think is it's such a taste of the of the

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Resurrection to come that every time I get in a situation like this I think man This is it's so good to just meet people that are my brothers and sisters that I didn't know

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I had you know And yeah, you get to meet the crazy uncles that you didn't know you had to and I love that too

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You have a yeah, you're getting characters I Was like man,

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I got three new ones So, I think

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I think my favorite part is I grew up I was homeschooled all the way through and we were involved in Christian homeschooling organization.

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They had big conferences every year and And smaller ones too and I grew up Teen years going to conferences now, there were some weird things about that organization.

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Well was David Koresh wasn't it? But but I still those were formative for me

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I met a lot of people there I had a lot of opportunities come out of that I I learned a lot of doctrine and now

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I have a place that I'm bringing my eight kids all of them baptized And And I'm bringing my kids out and they're getting ten times better Wow, that's so good.

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I mean Yeah, it's amazing like they're getting exposed to way better things and I'm able to support that and it you know

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When you're trying to raise Christian children, I mean we have our church, which is amazing But the more other

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Christians you can give them to mom on To CEO, they're weird too.

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Yeah, and it's okay to be odd like Jason Dead men walking now what a great podcast

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One of those weirdos too You are one pathetic loser

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We're going I can say it cuz I was homeschooled to yeah, let's keep it weird baby.

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Yeah, that's we turned out just fine. Yeah Usually homeschool kids are the geniuses Yeah, sure, so, you know my

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Okay, and Russia. Yeah, Moscow has the the really big on They're the classical education and the classical school

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Well, I mean, especially at the college level University level the NSA graduates

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Most of them graduate and they go to work for one particular company. You know what that company is what homeschooled? MC M's Emory MC and That story would have been better if you don't know what it was called

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I can't remember It's cuz you were homeschooled Jason MZ MZ.

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Oh, so MZ is there and it's run by a homeschooler Who I believe didn't even go to college once homeschooled always.

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Yeah Definitely that's awesome.

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Thanks boss. Look at 87 % of homeschoolers outperform public charter and private school. Yeah, so I'll just Stand out there for you

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Which is why I've decided to not homeschool my children because I want them to have to work for things

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Starting at a deficit children. Yeah. Yeah. Welcome to reality I feel

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I feel a homeschool show coming on. Yeah, right. I mean get out of it. All right now Jason Yeah, actually, I've got a really good idea

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I came up with it on the plane here about some bank robbers robbers that get trapped in a cabin in the woods by an avalanche with a family of nine homeschooled children

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Wait, there's no Yeah, the parents died in the avalanche which is what makes the comedy oh my gosh

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That's horrible you pitched it low and outside I couldn't That's ultimately my fault

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This is why I need a team. They reel me back in I'm crossing the line.

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I don't know. This isn't life, right? Yeah. Yeah, I was gonna say that goes into Quentin Tarantino, right? That's like a yeah

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What is it the Magnificent Seven? What's the one where they're all trapped? I don't know Hateful eight.

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Yeah, I don't know. Were you homeschooled? Yeah. No, I didn't homeschool. Yeah, that's why I'm not very smart. Yeah, I Was ready to homeschool, which is why

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I have no morals If this podcast right now is going to help lore

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I'm gonna say going to hell Clearly All glory to God.

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Amen. Absolutely. We at least have to end on that. Yes So guys, why don't you throw out where people can?

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Find lore and and you know, if they're interested in either investing or creating content or subscribing

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Yeah, go for it. Lord. I TV. Yep. You go to Lord. I TV. There's an invest button. There's a

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Stream button and there's a create button. It's pretty complicated, but we find most people can figure it out even the non -homes

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Okay All right, guys, we're gonna wrap it up here. We appreciate you guys coming on.

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Thanks so much for having us Guys, we get any stay in contact and we'll make sure we link up everything when this goes out to the listeners guys

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