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Matt Slick Bible Study, Biblical Interpretation
All right, there it worked, a little tech stuff. It's a good thing I'm a tech guy, but I know tech stuff. All right, so here we are. It is, let's see, September 2nd, and we're gonna be going over tonight.
We're gonna be going over the issue of biblical interpretation. And so we're gonna go slowly through things. It's very simple to do. And then what we're gonna do is at one point, we're gonna tackle a scripture.
I'm gonna have someone volunteer to give me some scriptures and we'll just go through. And one of the things I can do for the camera is change the camera angle, put it over here and I can see everybody if they want, if you guys out there wanted to see me, because there's gonna be interaction for the people that are here.
So we'll just see what happens. All right, as usual, let's pray and we'll get going, okay? All right, Lord Jesus, thank you for today. And I ask Lord that you would bless the people here, that you bless the listeners, Lord.
And just ask that you would equip us to be able to better understand your word and to teach your word and discern the truth that your word contains and that's for us. We ask Jesus that you bless us, bind the evil one and we just ask this Lord in your precious name, amen.
All right. Okay, so hermeneutics is the process of interpretation or the study of how to interpret something. And interpretation is very important, particularly with the scriptures. We have hundreds and hundreds of denominations in America alone.
I don't know how it is in Albania, as an example, are there many Christian denominations? There are, but you have them there too, okay. And the denominations occur because there are variations inside the essentials of the Christian faith.
Excuse me, on the non-essentials of the Christian faith. The essentials we can't deviate on, the non-essentials we can. And so infant baptism or not infant baptism, worship on Saturday, worship on Sunday, worship on Wednesday, charismatic gifts for today, charismatic gifts not for today.
The piano goes on the front of the church or on the side of the church. People do all kinds of stuff and they get ridiculous about necessities and I'll mute one of the mics, okay. So when it comes to understanding scripture, it becomes very important that we take it very seriously because we can make mistakes when we interpret.
And how do you know if you've made a mistake? Well, the more you know, the less likely you're to make mistakes. Less likely, doesn't mean you're not gonna make mistakes. As we're talking before here, before I turn this on, when I am debating people and I'm talking to a Muslim or something like that and Muslim, for example, would say that's not a position, I'm open to being corrected because I don't have all knowledge and I need to be humble before my Lord because all truth comes from God.
Now there are lies like Islam, but they have a set of lies that they teach. They don't, cause it doesn't respect the true God, but what they believe is a truth in a subset. It's true that they teach this.
I need to know what they teach accurately. And so I am more than willing to be corrected to have, is the cat still in? Yes. Okay, who's that? Station. Oh, okay, station. And so what we want is, well, what we want is accuracy in our interpretation.
And as I like to say, I joke and take times like this, as long as you believe whatever I tell you in the Bible, you'll be fine, especially because you got to listen to a guy named Slip. And I don't joke around and stuff like that.
And people have differences of opinions on things. However, nevertheless, there are basic principles that we would use to interpret scripture. So I'd like to say to people, think of a target. You have a target and then you have a circle and a circle and a circle and a circle.
It gets bigger and bigger. And if you look at that, you will be able to do better in the interpretation of scripture. A point that I like to teach people is to focus on one point at a time, get the one point down and then learn what that is.
And then move to another point and see how it relates to the first point. And you expand your understanding because as you understand one thing clearly, when you interpret another verse, it has to match this one.
In fact, that just perfectly, I just something came to my mind, I know it will study. And I'll show you some stuff later, but on, he wants all to be saved. Okay, we'll do that later. So that is yawn working.
I can't quite get it right. So when there are general rules, sometimes people say there's 10 general rules or seven, but we could use our common sense and we could come up with a set of rules of principles or ideas.
So if you break one of the rules, it doesn't mean you're gonna arrive at something false. But one of the things you wanna do, for example, is know who wrote in the Bible, who wrote the passage, who was it addressed to?
So there's this verse, Matthew 24, 40, there'll be two men in the field, one will be taken, one will be left. This is a very common used verse. And you guys already know what I'm gonna say about it. That the two men, the one who's taken, the one who's left, the one who's taken is the wicked.
And I've taught this for years and it's not the good who are taken. When I tell people this, they're often very surprised. They say, no, no, no, man, it's with the good who are taken because that's the rapture.
And this is a good time to be able to say, well, let's look at what the scripture says. So who wrote this? Well, in Matthew 24, 40, it's Matthew who wrote this, the gospel writer, Matthew. And who was it addressed to?
Well, in the context, Jesus is speaking to the disciples and some others, but that's what's going on. And we just read the context. Why is it important? Well, because for example, the term, the new covenant is used in Hebrews and it appears to be used in Hebrews specifically to only the Hebrews, but it seems to be used outside of the book of Hebrews in a more generic sense.
So Hebrew, the Hebrew people are gonna understand a certain term differently than a Gentile might. So the way a writer is speaking to that group will influence what they say. I do this all the time in my impromptu debates which I have frequently.
Someone will come on the radio or someone will come on in discord or someone will come on in some, whatever it is I'm at and they'll ask me a question. And the question, sometimes you can tell it might be an atheist or it might be a Roman Catholic because of the way the question's asked.
And I'll say, well, let me ask you, what are you? Are you an atheist or a Christian? Well, it's irrelevant. I said, no, it's not irrelevant because if I'm going to address you, I want to address you according to your worldview, to what you understand, I will know how to better cater my answer to you as I speak to you because if you're a Christian, I'm going to assume you believe certain things I won't have to establish.
But if you're an atheist, I'll have to go to a different, slightly different direction to answer your question. And I say, so how I would, if I were to write this, I'm going to write it differently to different people.
In fact, when there's what's called a documentary hypothesis or the JEDP, the graph Wellhausen theory. And it's that there are at least four different authors of the first five books of Moses, the JEDP, Yahweh, Elohim, Patriarch and Deuteronomy.
And so you can tell that they're different writing styles. And so therefore there are different authors and this has been debunked. But I wrote an article on that back in Escondido maybe 20 years ago, 25 years ago, I don't know.
And I wrote, I've been thinking about it and researching and I wrote, what is the documentary hypothesis? And I wrote it before I went to church. Now I was in church, remember thinking, I can say this, I just want to go home and write the response, you know?
And so when I got home, I sat down and wrote a response on the same day, I wrote what is the graph Wellhausen or the documentary hypothesis? And then I wrote how to refute it or how to deal with it, how to answer it.
Then I had this idea and I was using WordPerfect at the time and it had a grammar level analyzer and it was able to tell me what grade level I was at, active voice, passive voice of construction, sentence complexity and things like that.
Well, I think there were four categories, excuse me. Whoops, I might pull it down here. Is it? Behind you. There it is. Sorry about that. I thought I clipped it on. Sorry about that, folks. I thought I had clipped this on, but I didn't.
And so what I do, as I wrote the articles, the same author wrote two different articles, just a few hours apart, discussing the same topic, but one was to explain what it was and one was to refute it.
And when I put them through the analyzer, they were different results, different sentence structure complexity, passive active voice ratios and things like that. And you'd think, well, a different writer.
And that just, anyway, that's about the graph Wellhausen I put it in, but nevertheless, the point is that what you're intending to write and who you're addressing affects what you say. We need to be aware of that when we are discussing things.
So Jesus said, you know, I was sent only to the lost. He wasn't talking to the Gentiles. There are places where he talks to the Gentiles. He's gonna speak to them differently. So this is just something to consider when we're looking at passages.
Well, anyway, one of the things we do is we just look at what the passage says. Let's just do John 3, 16, everybody knows John 3, 16. So God still loved the world. He gave his only begotten son that whoever would believe in him would not perish, but have everlasting life.
All right. So we'll just use that passage. So what does the passage say? It says God still loved the world, right? We can say part A, God still loved the world. He gave his only begotten son that whoever would believe in him would not perish, but have everlasting life.
We could say there's five parts of that. And incidentally, when you read a reference in a book or whatever it is, and it'll say John 3, 16, A. What does that mean? There's no A, it means the first segment.
Okay, and if it says C, it means the third segment of whatever it is. And that's generally what, that's what that means. So we know that it says God still loved the world. Now, the word world. One of the things I've discovered about biblical interpretation is word studies.
And to be perfectly frank, it was one of the most enlightening and useful things I'd ever come across was to do word studies. And I'll give you some examples of some things. But word studies told me and taught me that God uses words differently than we do.
And it forced me to recognize that I would come to the text a lot of times with preconceived ideas. And my preconceived ideas were wrong. This is why when I was reading Paul back in my early days of Christianity, that Paul damaged my faith because I did not understand what he was saying because I assumed certain words meant certain things all the time and I was wrong.
So here's an example of something. And I'll say to people, and you guys already know the answers. I've been teaching this for a while. Does God know everyone? People say, well, yeah, he knows everybody.
He's all-knowing. And I say, well, why did Jesus say in Matthew 7, 23, get away from me, I never knew you, okay? Does he know everyone? Well, no, but in what sense? That's the right question. In what sense?
Can you turn that light on? I should have it on, sorry. So what sense does he say no, K-N-O-W? Well, when we look at this word and we do a study and we find out that what he's, thank you, what he's doing, what God is doing is using the word no in different contexts and different ways.
So a word will have what's called a semantic domain, a range of meanings that it has in a set of scriptures or a set of contexts. So the word green, for example, green can mean envy, color, money, sickness, being naive, chlorophyll.
It can mean a lot of things. I think it has, it's one of the words I looked up that has one of the widest varieties of meanings in English, the word green, but nevertheless. So words mean what they mean in context.
And sometimes what people do is they will say, for example, God still loved the world, he gave his only begotten son. The word world obviously means every individual who ever lived. And I'll ask people and I'll say, well, how do you know that's what it means?
Of course, that's what it means. Okay, why does it mean that? Man, how could you ever think it doesn't mean that? Well, I can, I can think it doesn't mean every individual, but I want you to demonstrate that it does from scripture.
And what I do sometimes, and this is not malicious, I'm not intending to embarrass anybody, I'm not intending to make them mad, but I'm trying to teach them and others, don't make assumptions. What does it say, he loved the world?
Okay, what does the word world mean? And I've had this conversation on this very exact word in this very verse, many times. So what does it mean? Well, it means the whole world. Does it mean plants, the water, the earth, which is an oblate spheroid, it's not a sphere, it's an oblate spheroid.
I usually show off my words and stuff like that, it's kind of fun. And I say, you know, so basically the world's a sphere. So is it the planet, is it the water, is it the mountains, is it the air, the birds?
No, man, it's the people. Okay, so he loves the world. So the word world means people, yes. I say, okay, so was Jesus sent to everybody, all the people? And they'll say, well, of course he was. And I go to Matthew 15, 24.
Jesus says, I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. So the house of Israel, what does that mean? Well, you do research on it, you find out it means the nation of Israel. So I ask him, was Jesus sent to the whole world?
Now they're not so sure what to say, because if he's sent to every individual, but Jesus says he was sent only to Israel, but not to the world, now we have a problem. And all I've done is show a scripture that carries a meaning of something and contrasted it with what they think it means in another verse.
Now, am I setting scripture against scripture? Never gonna do that. But what I will do is say, if that's what you think that means there, what do you do with this? Because if this is clear, then how do we relate those?
So this is one of the things about interpretation, is causing our understanding to adjust to what it is that the text is actually saying, but also in light of other things. And this is what hermeneutics is, we'll get to this.
So are there any words or phrases in the passage that need to be examined? So the word world, right? Needs to be examined. And guess what? I've actually studied the word world and the word cosmos, I believe it is there.
It's been a while since I've done it. And I've written, it's on CARM and you could actually go on CARM and you could find a word studies world. And then I think I actually did other words that are translated into the English world.
And I did those as well. And so when I did my study of annihilationism, I did, I don't know, 50, 60, 70 word studies where I take one word, look at the original Greek word, go into my Bible program, take the Greek words equivalent in a number, because they have them all arranged numerically, and say, find every use of that word, that number, okay?
Every use in the entire Bible. And I'd find it. And then I would export those, export that file, that result into Excel because I should teach Excel. So I know how to do stuff. So I did some tricks and then I would do stuff.
And then what I would do is I'd convert that into HTML. I know tricks, I convert an HTML, put it into a webpage. Then what I would do is go through and analyze every single one of them and say the word world here means limited area.
The word world here means broad area. The word world here means just the Jews or the word world here means the whole planet or whatever it might be in its context. And I would develop these columns that I'd put Xs underneath each one, sometimes two Xs in different columns because a word might have different meanings in a particular context.
And so someone who's anal retentive has Asperger's and is not quite right mentally, things like that are actually enjoyable. And I do enjoy doing them because I enjoy the discovery. And I've done this before.
And as I mentioned, the word no, K-N-O-W. Does God know everyone? No, he doesn't. Get away from me, I never knew you. Well, I also know from Galatians 4, 8, 9. When you did not know God, you serve by nature those which are not God's.
But now that you've come to know God or rather are known by him, now you've come to serve a true and living God. But oh, you have to be known by God. Well, you go to John 10, 27, 28, my sheep hear my voice and I know them and I give eternal life to them and they shall never perish.
So then I discovered by looking at the word no in Greek, gnosko, I discovered that it could be used of man knows his wife, and we know what that means, sexual relations. God knows all things, 1 John 3, 20, right?
He knows all things. But it also means he goes, I never knew you. And that means salvation. So now we have, the word no means different things in different places. And what I'll often do with people is I'll say, when I teach them this, I say, can I, you mind if I trick you?
I'm gonna trick you. Can I trick you and set you up for a fall and stuff and you'll enjoy it while I do it? Is that okay? And they smile, they go, okay. They go, and I do it. They go, I said, do you enjoy that?
Yes, I did. And because I'm not being malicious, I'm trying to teach them. And I tell them ahead of time, I'm gonna trick them. And so I have ways of doing that with the word all, for example. But the point I'm trying to make is that, and there's another thing, since I'll talk about this, the word no, for example, can mean, have sexual relations with your spouse, right?
So if Jesus were to say, I never knew you, and we took that meaning there, we're getting sacrilegious, okay? And that's not what's going on there. So we can't take the meaning of one context and transfer it to some other context.
Gotta be very careful because then you can get things to say bad things, wrong things. And this is what the cults do. And this is what a lot of Christians do too. They will take a meaning of a word. Here's another example of this.
In Matthew 1 .25, it says that Joseph kept Mary, kept her a virgin until they were married, until they're married. What do you think that means? Well, it means that on their wedding night, okay, that's what that means.
They had relations, right? So you're talking to a Roman Catholic who says, no, Mary never lost her virginity. Well, what do you do with Matthew 1 .25? What they do is they take, they go over to where the Greek word, I forget what it is, ethos, I think, I can't remember.
It appears like in 1 Corinthians 15, all things will rain until he puts them all under his feet. Well, the word until here means a continued raining, doesn't it? Well, how do you know it doesn't mean that over here?
Because of the context, kept her virgin until. If I said to someone, my wife and I, I'm not gonna have relations with my wife until our wedding night. We know exactly what that means in that context. So I'm not gonna transfer, it's called illegitimate totality transfer, where they take a particular meaning of the word that has a broad, different meanings, right?
They take it, well, it means over this over here, let's transfer it over here. Illegitimate totality transfer. And it's an exegetical error. Cults do it all the time. A lot of Christians do it all the time.
So you'll hear me sometimes, if you're listening to me on debates, I'll say, well, what does that word mean? What do you mean by that phrase? People sometimes think I'm just being pedantic, maybe obstreperous, obnoxious, obtuse, irritating.
And I say, no, what do you mean by that phrase? Last night, this guy asked me, well, do you think Jesus is God the Son? And I said, well, it depends. What do you mean by that phrase? What do you think that phrase means?
He goes, you're the one who believes it. I go, wait a minute, you don't know what I believe until we've defined it. So what does it mean? And he argued with me, he goes, that's your term. I go, no, I didn't bring it up.
Did you hear me use the phrase God the Son? I said, no, but it's what you believe. I go, dude, listen, what does it mean? This is how this guy was last night. He was being obstreperous. Now, so interpreting scripture takes experience, practice, concentration, a little bit of brains and knowledge.
The more you have in those areas, the better off you're gonna be. Just what it is. Does it then mean you're gonna get it all right all the time? Absolutely not. Now, I would say, I've studied, learned a lot and I teach a lot of Bible studies and I can teach on a lot of topics.
Does it mean that I'm right? No. I remember once in Escondido, San Diego County, Escondido, that I was teaching a Bible study and a guy, I've told you this before, a guy came to me one week and he said, I don't agree with what you said last week.
I said, really? And he said, on what? And I forgot what the point was. But what he did was he said, you said this about this passage and I didn't quite think it was correct. So I went and studied it and blah, blah, blah.
And I'm listening to him. And I told these guys this before, but I was listening to him and I just listened for two or three minutes and he explained it. And he said, well, what do you think? And I actually said to him, I said, you're right.
I said, that's correct. I said, you've absolutely convinced me. And he looked at me and said, what? And I said, well, you convinced me that that's a better interpretation. Mine wasn't heretical. It was just, he had really nailed it better.
I forgot what it was. And he said, you mean I corrected you? I taught you? And I said, yeah. And he goes, I can't believe that. And he goes, well, you're not upset? I said, why would I be upset? You see, here's one of the problems of Bible interpretation.
Sometimes we get prideful and it's easy to do. So you always have to be open to being corrected. So when people say to me, well, I don't think you're right, Matt, my automatic reaction is, okay, maybe I'm not.
Now, if it's in the Trinity or the Deity of Christ, I know they're wrong, but okay, let's talk about this. I had to remain open about what things say. Anyway, so what we do is we look at a phrase and we look at the context of things.
You can have my notes later. And we look at what, this is just my article on karma actually, because boy, that's a good website. Whoever wrote this really was just, man, he was such a good guy. Oh, man.
He just did. Yes and no, in the sense that the Greek language is still spoken in Greece, but there's a lot, a lot of it has changed. It's like Latin is a dead language, so it doesn't change its meaning and Koine Greek, the same thing.
It has a set of meanings from that time, in that context, in that way. And that's why, believe it or not, people now can actually understand Greek language better than the original speakers did in some areas.
Now, usually that's what I call in denotative means, not connotative, because denotation is a literal translation, literal meaning of something. But connotation, it deals with kind of a heartfelt meaning.
And so I knew, I still know him. He was raised in an Arabic country, speaks Arabic fluently, it's his first language, and worked for the United States government translating Arab intercepts. And they would have people who were, who had, like me, who had learned a language and would translate it.
And they would have to run it by him. Okay, I don't know Arabic, but they'd have these translators. They were school taught. They could translate it and they'd translate it. And he would say, yes, that's correct in its translation, but that's not what it means.
What you've translated into English is not what it means in the original. And it was because there's certain cultural norms, like, man, I was just, I beat him till his back, black and blue. Well, how are you gonna convey that to another language?
Well, it really hurt him and he's bruised up, is what it meant. And there were phrases like that, and this happens. So by the examination of more and more Greek manuscripts that are uncovered, and they look at these, they see how a semantic domain occurs, they see patterns.
But I'll tell you, they've got rules, like the Granville Sharpe rule out of Protitus 2 .13. And it's a rule in Greek. When this happens, I remember in Greek, oh, we'd get sentences like this. When the genitive absolute follows a predicate nominative, it always is translated as a, and you're like.
And because it's a rule, whatever it was, it would be a rule that was like this. You had to know these rules, and you had to know what a genitive absolute was, and you had to know what a predicate nominative was, and you had to be able to see how it was in the, it just, it was really a lot of work.
But at any rate, so the answer is yes and no. No, in the original Greek, no, it doesn't change. It's very, oh, Greek is very precise. Oh, Greek is a very, very precise language. In fact, let me give you an illustration of it.
This comes into interpretation sometimes too. So the, I'll do it from this way, left to right, okay? The good man. In English, the is a definite article. Good, adjective. Man is a noun. The good man. We don't say the man good, but we can say good man doesn't quite flow as nicely, or man good is even less.
Now, the good man. So, but the, T-H-E-G-O-O-D-M-A-N. They're not related in their spelling. In Greek, they are. Ha, it's an O, with a rough breezing mark, means the word the. Anthropos, or agathos, good.
Anthropos, man. So that's called, it's called the nominative singular. The omicron sigma, and the word the doesn't have the O-S ending, it's just the O ending. It's Greek. So it means nominative masculine singular, nominative masculine singular, nominative masculine singular.
So that the forms of the nouns have to match each other, mostly. So ha agathos, anthropos, the good man. And ha is masculine, agathos is masculine, and singular, as is that one. And anthropos is masculine and singular by its construction.
When we say the good man, we understand it's talking about an individual. The good men, then we understand it's talking about more. But the and good don't change their structure. The object does, the good men.
So the good men, oh, it's plural. But they do, hoi agathoi anthropoi, the good men. That's how Greek works, right? Now, you can take the word, I'll go back to has, the good man. Ha agathos anthropos, and you can take, ha agathos anthropos, you can take the ha away.
And you can take anthropos away, and now you have the word agathos, which is masculine singular, by necessity. And then you can translate it as the in italics, good in regular letters, and man in italics.
Because the word the and man aren't there in the Greek, in this instance, but the gender and the number is. That's why they will do that like that in English, they'll have a word in italics, because it's meant that in the original.
This comes into interpretation, this is later on when you interpret scripture. And I just, because you asked, I thought I would jump in, I was just jumping ahead. But this is part of interpretation, and it helps to know Greek, it helps.
This is why I use it when I discuss various things, like I'll go to Romans 5 .19, to one man's disobedience, the many were made sinners. Were made sinners is the aorist passive indicative. And I'm gonna get all this stuff, but I go, oh, that means this, it helps me interpret things better.
So if you guys want, I can give you a Greek lesson sometime without teaching you Greek, and teach you active, passive, nominative, dative, accusative, and optative, and how they work so that you can use tools and know what's going on.
I can do that. If you want, next week, I'll do it for you. Wanna do that? Well, you guys are just eager for punishment.
Real quick, one more question. So with the Greek, in Greek. Yes. So if you can actually translate a fragment of a manuscript just based off of like what you were saying, just that word as well, but give me some context to what you're saying.
Right.
You see, Greek is more precise and has more in it. Like Spanish, you know, what's that? Oh, thank you very much. Thank you. Someone said that. Okay, thank you. So in Spanish, you have gender also. So, you know, hermana, you know, sister.
Hermano is brother. And so the one letter at the end tells you gender, and it can also tell you number. But in Greek, gender and number exist, plus the case. I won't get into all this stuff, but this helps.
Okay. It does help when you interpret scripture. Let's get back on track. Okay. So we always want to look at the immediate context, and that's very important. It just makes sense, doesn't it? The immediate context of something is what we want to look at.
And then what we do, the broader context. Remember, we're looking here narrow. What is the verse? And to be ultra simple, you go, what is it? What does it say? What's its context? You know, verses before and verses after.
What are the chapters that relate? Anything else that relates to that topic anywhere in the Bible? Very important, right? That's a broader context. What related verses to the passage of the subject, and how do they affect the understanding of the passage?
Okay. Also, historical background can help you a great deal. Historical background to interpret something, right? So, for example. Okay, I like this one. In Luke 7, I believe it is, Jesus goes over to the Pharisee's house, Simon's house, to have dinner with them.
Dinner in the culture was a sign of fellowship, but he'd already been at odds with the Pharisees. In the culture, the Pharisees would walk around and speak openly, and people would follow them and listen to them.
You wouldn't know that by reading the Bible, okay? That's a culture. And they would often open their homes up, because they didn't have screens and sliding glass doors. They would just open up the door and people would stand out on the door.
So, imagine, in this context, that in that they wanted to hear what I had to say, there are people standing there and sitting on top of here, sitting here, sitting here, up over there behind the couch, outside, windows up like that, all up around.
This is the kind of setup that would have been when they asked, when Jesus says, you wanna come over and eat? Because the people would have known, they're already at odds, and et cetera. Anyway, so Jesus comes in, and the obligation of the host culturally is to give him a kiss, anoint his head with oil, and have his feet cleaned.
And he refuses to do that. That's an insult. And then this woman comes in, who's a prostitute, who, now remember, if she's unclean and she brushes up against someone who is clean, he becomes unclean. They're not gonna like that.
They're gonna get PO'd. And if she rubs up against somebody, what are you trying to do? You trying to get me to go to bed with you? I mean, she's just guilty. And in that culture, if a woman let her hair down in public, a husband could divorce her because it was sensuous.
It was only let down in the privacy of the home and in the bedroom, or maybe it's in the home where the children could see, and it was guarded. So a woman did this in public is insulting the husband directly and even advertising for sexual stuff.
So you can see how this is. And then when she comes in and lets her hair down in the room, you can't believe what's happening. And then she's kissing his feet, the dirty feet. So you can see when you understand the culture, oh my stinking goodness, this is incredible what she was doing.
And she was a filthy, vile, sinful, adulterous crap woman who gets praised by Jesus and did one of the most greatest acts of worship and adoration, period. My favorite stories. And it shows the depravity and yet the grace of God.
And now we can see more about the text because we understand the culture. Or how about when the man born blind and spits and does like that, because I see men walking about his trees. We've talked about this before.
People would go into the hills, the foothills, and they would get branches off of trees. They would bundle them and wrap them up, tie them up. Then he would crawl underneath them and then they would lift up.
They would walk on their back. They look like trees. I see trees walking about. And that was idiomatic from that time. So culture has a broad effect on what we understand a text to mean. The more you understand culturally and historically, culturally, the better off.
It just works that way. Now, then we say, well, what do I conclude about what the passage says? You know, if you go back to John 3, 16, God's love the world that gave his only begotten son. Well, if the word world, we do a study, we find out the word world has many meanings.
And then we look at other passages where the word world there in John 3, 16 is cast doubt on whether or not it means every individual. Well, we can do that, right? That whosoever would believe in him, right?
That's what it says, right? No, it's not what it says. And I have the advantage of having had Greek, not that I'm good at it, because I'm not, but I know enough. I remember enough and I can use my tools.
But it says in Greek, pas hapistoun, not whoever, which is hos, but pas hapistoun, all the believing one. Now, is that important? Well, yeah. So God's still love the world that all the believing one will not perish.
Why would he say all the believing one? Why did he just say whoever? Because the Greek word for whoever is hos, and it's used in the Bible. Why did he say just whoever? See, I'll get to this. What will happen is some people will say, well, God doesn't predestine because it's up to us and our free will.
They assume that these things are not compatible. And I'll say, well, what do you mean? And I know they're gonna go to John 3, 16, because most people don't know very many verses and they don't understand the doctrines.
And so they will often go to John 3, 16, who says, whoever you see. And I'll say, well, first of all, does whoever mean that they have the innate ability to believe or does whoever mean all the ones who are granted believing?
Because whoever does that believing will be saved. It doesn't say how they become believing, but that they believe. And then they get upset with me because I ask these difficult questions. I'm not trying to trip people up.
I ask the questions. Because these are the kinds of questions you need to ask in order to be a better expositor of scripture. You need to learn to ask good questions in order to analyze the text. I could pick a verse, we could have Mike here just randomly go through something in the New Testament, pick a verse, we're gonna take a look at it and learn to ask questions about it.
Maybe it'll work out, maybe it won't work out. Because there's a lot that we could do that about. But the idea here is to ask good questions about something because the questions have to be answered. Sometimes you can get the answers and sometimes you can't get the answers.
Now I have the privilege, and it is a privilege to be able to sit in my office and do this, and you guys don't. Doesn't mean I'm better, doesn't mean you're not better, doesn't mean anything. It just means I had that privilege, so I could do that.
Okay, and I thank the Lord for that. And I've learned so much that way. I've learned so much by just doing a word study. I've done word studies for two days on one word. And I'm enjoying it. You know, and I get to go in and do this again.
Me goes, my wife, what are you studying? I'm still studying that same word. What are you even learning? Oh, you want to know? No, I don't. No, I don't want to know. I go, okay, because she knows, she'll get an earful.
Well, you see when it's, she's like, ah. And because I get excited about this, because what do most men watch when they want to get excited about this? Football, baseball, me? I'm going to go find some cultists to talk to.
That's my idea of a good time. You know, I like watching that stuff. Or lately, I've been really been enjoying watching on YouTube, rebuttals to flatter theory. Oh, I've found some good stuff. Oh, there's some good stuff out there.
I wrote on one guy's review. He's doing a very, very good job teaching me a lot of stuff. And he made a comment about some theological thing. He didn't get into it too much, but I go, no, no, no. Don't do that.
And I wrote, love your stuff. Just stay away from theology, you know. But all right, so nevertheless. So here we are. We understand the basic principles of interpretation. We always want to look at what it actually says, look at its context, and expand out.
You can look in the phrase. So John 3, 16, God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, okay. That whoever would believe in him, in English, we don't say things like all the believing one.
We don't talk like that. So they had to smooth it out. And it's fair. All, we could say, more loosely translated, all the one who believes, or everyone who believes, or whosoever. See how it gradually moves, right?
All the one believing is really anyone who believes. Well, that's, we'll just use the word whosoever. Because what they're doing is interpreting to some degree. Now, when I was in seminary, I've said this before, it was a really interesting problem that came up in translations for a certain tribe and a certain culture.
And in the Bible, it says, build your house on the rock, right? Remember this? I taught you guys about this with people who don't know on the web. And in a certain culture, if you built your house on the rock, when the floods came in the season of the flood season, your house would be swept away.
So in order to make your house secure, you had to take bamboo poles and hammer them down into the sand where they'd be solidly built. So you build your house on the sand so it won't be swept away by being on the rock.
But in the Bible, build your house on the rock, not on the sand, reversed. So what do you do? Well, you translate, what they decided to do is translate it for the intention. So they understand what the meaning was and make a note that in the Greek, it says this and that.
So translations are almost always an interpretation as well. And we can't get away from that. So a lot of times what I'll do, I'll debate somebody and I'll just go through the Greek. I'll read just the Greek.
What's your interpretation? No, that's what it says. Okay, that's what it says. And they don't like that a lot of times because people have agendas. Now, we all have agendas. So I'm a five-point Calvinist.
And I interpret a lot of scripture in light of my five-point Calvinism. Now, people are gonna take that statement and gonna take it out of context, but let me give you the whole context. The reason I'm a five-point Calvinist is because I read the whole Bible and I believe the whole of scripture teaches five-point Calvinism.
I don't submit the Bible to my five-point Calvinism. I have derived my five-point Calvinism out of scripture. That's me. And that's why. And so because I believe that's the case, and as I have been a Calvinist since 91 or 92, so it's almost 30 years, let's just say 30 years I've been a Calvinist.
I have studied the word and see how it is in scripture everywhere. When I mean Calvinism, I mean predestination, election, definite atonement, our security in Christ, these basic doctrines, which I see all over scripture.
What people will do then is they'll say, well, you see, you just confessed how sinful you are, but that's not what I'm saying. We have to be careful, even as a five-point Calvinist, I had to be careful not to interpret something in light of that, even though I believe the Bible overall teaches that.
So I had to keep myself aware of what are my prejudices? How am I coming to the text? What am I saying about the text? What am I assuming about the text? This is why I've learned to ask questions. And I've done this to the point where I can really take a question.
So, okay, Mike, I want you to, without looking at your Bible, just pick a page, just take your right hand. No, don't look at the Bible. And just turn. Okay, turn one more time because you got a bulletin right there.
And then just point finger. Now, what verse is it? 1623. Romans 1623. Okay, let's go to Romans 1623. All right. Now, last one, there's an Emeraldian. All right, now this is not a particularly great verse, but let's look at it.
As far as our thing, Gaius, host to me and to the whole world, excuse me, and the whole church greets you. Erastus, the city treasurer greets you, and Quartus, the brother. All right, let's just work with this.
What I would do is I would look at the word Gaius to see what it means. I would look at the word Erastus. I'd look at the word Quartus. I'd look at these names of these people. I would, you know, just take a look.
And I'm gonna do that right now because I don't know what I'm gonna find out, if anything. So Gaius is right there, and I have my tools. You guys don't have tools like I do, but I'm just going through really quickly.
Proper noun, Gaius, a Macedonian who was Paul's host at Corinth when the epistle to the Romans was written and was baptized with his household by Paul, 1 Corinthians 1 .14. Okay. And I'm going straight to other tools here right now.
Erastus, which I can look up about Erastus, and just means beloved. Okay. And Quartus, hope it doesn't mean anything about courts. And Quartus, and I like to read the Greek out of it. A Christian, is it just meaning fourth?
A Christian who loved, that's interesting. Quartus means fourth. Do I'm learning anything? Eh, a little. The whole church, that's kind of stuck out at me, though. Whole in Greek is halos, and church is ekklesia, the whole church.
Now I got some questions I can ask about this. But what might I ask? You give me some ideas. What kind of questions could we ask about this phrase, whole church? What would be some of the things you might want to look at and consider and ask, because I fill dead air.
Okay. Let's see. What might we do, if we wanted to study that phrase, whole church? Well, what size church? That's a good question.
What size church? What area of the church? The people of the church. The people of the church, area of the meaning. Yeah. How many churches?
Yeah. Think of it as, now do this. Catholic, looking at this. What might he think of whole church? Might he think the Roman Catholic Church?
Yeah, they would ask to find church.
And to find church in this context. And you do. You go look up the word, which is 1577 in Greek, in Greek's concordance. And I just go like this, and I do this. One, five, seven, seven, enter. And it occurs 114 times, which I've already done a study on this word.
And so then I go, oh, I could see every single place where it's translated. And it could be translated, incidentally. And these are tangents I'll take that sometimes don't produce any real information that's impressive or wow-ish, but just, okay.
Well, I'm looking here and how it is in the NASB. It's translated as church, and church all over the place, assembly. It says here in Acts 19 .32, so then some were shouting one thing, another, some another, for the assembly was in confusion.
And the majority did not know what the reason was. And it's in other verses too, it's translated. I'm just scanning through, because it highlights. And this is a church, churches, but assembly is used, congregation.
My brethren, in the midst of the congregation, I will sing your praise. That's a quote from the Old Testament. So, okay, this is a cursory thing. Okay, well, so it can have different translations, but also it can have different sub meanings because church can be used as a local body or the whole.
Well, which one is it here when it says the whole church? Now I've got another question. Whole church is in the whole church or the whole church that's there at that place? And I'll be discussing someone who might want to make a point out of a verse like this.
And I'll say, yeah, but which one is it? And they get upset with me. I'm not trying to be difficult. I'm saying, well, which one is it? And these are the kinds of questions. Let's do another one, pick another, do another thing.
Go ahead. It's all on you. I hope the pressure's not too much for you. What do you got? Galatians 4 .1. Oh, that's a good verse. Galatians 4 .1, okay. Now I say, as long as the heir is a child, he does not differ at all from a slave, although he is the owner of everything.
Now, you got a lot of potential in here. As long as the heir is a child, the heir, can the heir be a natural heir? Can the heir be an adopted heir? Be the one. He does not differ at all from a slave. Wait a minute.
Slaves are beaten and have no rights, right? I'm assuming that, is that correct? Well, that would require me to see how the word slave is used, read commentaries on everything, right? I'd have to go check it out, because I'm gonna say, I think it means this, but does it?
So I have the privilege of sitting up there and going, let me find out. I'll go search. Although he is the owner of everything. What do I mean, owner? Well, you're, oh, wow. The word in Greek is kurios, which is translated as Lord.
So now, owner, why would he say, why would the N-A-S-B say owner? The E-S-V says owner. The King James, it says he's the Lord of all. All right, why are they doing it differently? I'm gonna ask the question.
I'm gonna go look. Because I've done this for so long, I have tools. And at a level like this, I might just jump to a commentary, or I might not. I might just say, I'm gonna see how the word kurios is used, because I've done that too.
And I have my research. I might wanna see how the word slave is used, but then I wanna see if I can find the word slave as it relates to the word child. Or I might wanna see if there's a relationship of those words in the Bible, and see how God uses a combination of words.
It can get complicated, right? And so I'll do these kinds of things, and I have tools that can do this. And it teaches me. In fact, I might wanna find all the occurrences of the aorist passive indicative.
Well, for me, I wanna know that. And so I'll find all the places where that occurs. But then I wanna find aorist passive indicative of a particular word. Then I wanna find that. I don't know how to do that yet, but there's ways to do it.
And you can teach myself on the Bible programs how to do this kind of stuff, because in apologetics and precision, I will do that kind of research. Now, you can get that deep into stuff, but for the most part, we don't need to do that.
You guys don't need to do that. But I do because I do debates and I have to analyze stuff. All right, that's what I do. So as we look at Galatians 4 .1, just basically, now I say, as long as the heir is a child, he isn't different from a slave, though he's the owner of everything.
Oh, so the child and the slave are different in one sense, but not in another. Well, they're different because the child is the owner of everything. Well, he's not really the owner because the father is, and he'll become the owner, but he's using this as the owner that he will be because he has that position.
Okay, I get that. And so he's the heir, which means there's a legal qualification that comes to that child. And it's due to the position in the family, and generally because of the father. The father has certain rights and the firstborn male has certain rights.
And as an heir of a child in the relationship with that family, he has certain rights. But on the other hand, he does not differ from a slave because the child is obligated to obey his father, just as a slave is obligated to obey his father.
So in those areas, he's similar. So we could then say, I wonder what ways the child and the slave are similar. I wonder what ways are different. Now, is it really necessary for me to do that, to understand this passage?
Not really. Might it be helpful? Maybe. Maybe if I were to do a study on that, I might find something else that's useful. Maybe I won't. And for the most part, most of the time, I don't. Most of the time, I don't.
But okay, I get to study. So I've done this before, and I've taught people how to do Bible studies and how to study and interpret scripture. We've done exercises. Sometimes you get these verses which are difficult to extract much out of.
And other times, a verse might have a whole bunch of rich stuff in there. And if I were to talk to someone who said, well, I came to this verse, I looked up that word, I saw five instances, I looked up this word, I looked up that phrase, and I looked at this, and I went and did this, and I spent an hour going through this like that, and yet I can't figure out really what's going on.
I'd be like, awesome. That's awesome. Because I'm sure I would say, because there's a lot of questions that have come up. That's right. Ah, now in order to understand, those questions have to be answered.
Now you gotta study. And most people don't do this. But if you do, you will learn a great deal. Now what happens is like anything, any new skill that you're using, you're developing, at first it's awkward, you stumble, you make a lot of mistakes.
And then as you get better at it, you make fewer mistakes. Not no mistakes, fewer mistakes. And then pretty soon, people started coming to you to ask you how to do that, because you practiced it. But this is the general idea.
So we can say that when we look at the word, that we can understand that understanding the context, understanding what it says, and just examining it, and really thinking it through, really is where you learn, and learn how to understand something.
But when someone stops, and says, no, that's what it means. You know, here's another example. If you go to Luke 128, it says, and Mary was full of grace. The Greek word, full of grace, is actually kakaritomene, and it means highly favored one.
But full of grace is plaras karitas. Well, why is it important? Because they will say that full of grace means that she can't have sin. That's why she's full of grace. Well, I look up kakaritomene, like I'll do it right now.
Look, Luke 128, right? And I'll go to the word, in the NASB, kakaritomene, it says highly favored one. Now this is 5487. So now I'm gonna go over to my Greek little thing I got here. Five, four, eight, seven, enter.
Wow, it only shows up two times in the entire Bible. Luke 128, and also Ephesians 1 .6, to the praise and the glory of his grace, which he freely bestowed on us. I'm gonna go to that verse. And the word freely bestowed is karitao, which is 5487, yeah, favored one.
From karitao, kakaritomene is just a cognate. You'd have act, actor, actors. It's just a cognate of the same form. So, okay, so now we're saying, oh, okay. So that's really interesting, actually. Which he freely bestowed.
So it's a showing of favor. Highly favored one. To the praise and the glory of his grace, which he highly favored on us in the beloved. And they translated as freely bestowed. Oh, that's kind of interesting.
I'm picking that up right now, actually. Okay, so the phrase, I've done my research already. The phrase full of grace occurs in John 1 .14. And the word became flesh and dwelt among us. We saw his glory.
Glory is the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth. Now, what that is in Greek is plares karitas. So it's full of grace. Plares, full, karitas, grace. Okay, plares is from the Greek karis, karis.
And it just means grace, but they have different forms. Okay, like I said, I'll do a Greek thing with you guys next week, okay? It'll make more sense then. And so, lo and behold, the phrase full of grace does appear.
Now, you know how I know this? Because I looked at the first, why? Because I had to answer it from what Roman Catholics say. So I had to go look at the Greek. And it's not hard. You don't have to know Greek to use these tools.
So full of grace, okay. Well, then what I did was I looked to see if that phrase occurs anywhere else. Because full of grace, that's Jesus. He can't sin. And if they're gonna say karatomene, highly favored one, they translate it as full of grace.
They're doing it incorrectly. That's what they're saying. She doesn't have any sin. She's highly favored, right? And they'll say, but highly favored is also full of grace. Would you not say, Matt, that full of grace is highly favored?
Yes, it's true. But the conclusion of what they wanna bring it to is not true. And cults do this kind of thing, false religions. So guess where else the phrase parouskaritas occurs? Lo and behold, it does.
And Stephen, this is Acts 6, 8, and Stephen, full of grace and power, was performing great wonders. So wait a minute. Does the phrase full of grace now mean that you're without sin? Doesn't mean that.
Doesn't necessitate that. And how do I know that? From the scriptures. You notice I had to memorize, right? Why? Because I had to do this. Okay, you'd learn. So now we go to Luke 1, 28. She's full of grace.
The Catholics and the East Orthodox are gonna say she was sinless. Why? Because it says full of grace. Does it say full of grace? Sometimes they'll actually say, well, she's highly favored. Then they'll do a better translation.
Okay. So she's without that. That's right. And then you, well, other verses say this and that, and you go through and you show the meaning doesn't carry over here, does it? It doesn't necessitate that it's sinless.
In Christ's sense, it does. But in Stephen, it doesn't. Like the word agape means what? Huh? Okay. Agape. Divine love, right? God should love the world. God agape the world, right? So agape means divine love.
Phileo means, Phileo is brotherly love. Eros is physical love, all right? And so if you go and you do a search and you go to Luke 11, 43, woe to you Pharisees for you love agape. You love the chief seats in the synagogues and respectful greetings.
People tell me that agape just means divine love and I'll show them this. Luke 11, 43 says, well, if it does, does it mean it in every context? That's the right question. If they say yes, I don't jump on them.
Fool. Fool? No, I just say, look, I thought the same thing and then I did a study and I found out that it's used in other places. And for example, the Pharisees love their chief seats. That can't be divine love.
And so the word agape can have a meaning of divine love. God so loved the world, but can also have other meanings. It's so highly committed to something in a loving way. Well, okay, that might be more accurate and that would apply to God as well.
And so you see, when you start looking at what individual words mean and use word studies, you can actually learn a lot and then you can correct misunderstandings of scripture. Someone says, God's loved the world.
The word world, John 3, 16 is so full of this stuff. God so loved, that's divine love. There, I would agree that it is. Here in Luke 11, 43, I would say it isn't. So I would never say that the word agape always means divine love.
It can mean it and sometimes it cannot mean it, that's all. And he loved the world. Well, the word world doesn't necessitate every individual. Okay, because in Psalm 5, 5 and Psalm 11, 5, God hates people.
So how do we reconcile these? Well, there's ways to reconcile them. It's not hard at all. That he gave his only begotten son, right? Mano Ganes, Mano Ganes, Mano Ganes, from Genao, only begotten. Well, the only reason I know this is because in seminary, they taught us this.
Only begotten is the same spelling in Greek for unique. And there's a diphthong occurrence with a contraction of words. And so only begotten and unique. That whoever, pasapestumon, all the ones believing, would have everlasting life and not perish, right?
In fact, I'll show you something. Watch this. A lot of people don't know about this, but John 3, 16. Is it too cold in here for you guys? No, you're okay? All right. You want it to be cold in here? I can make it nice and cold for you guys.
John 3, 16, that whoever believes in him will not perish, shall not perish, but have eternal life, right? Okay. No big deal. Not perish, but have eternal life, right? Now go to, keep your thumb there.
Go to John 10, 27. My sheep will hear my voice and I know them and they follow me and I give eternal life to them and they will never perish. Eternal life, never perish. In John 10, 28. In John 3, 16.
Have eternal life, never perish. Now this is Jesus talking. Well, I noticed that one day. I went, wait a minute, that's how he talks. I'm gonna see if I'm right. Go to John 6, roughly 38. Okay, it doesn't say never perish along with eternal life, but I'm looking for the phrase.
This is what I'll, like right now, I'm going, okay, this is how I would do this. I happen to know verses in my head, so I'm gonna look around and then I do a search. Now, Jesus often says, at least in two places, eternal life and never perishing are related to each other.
Interesting. Verse 38, I've come down from heaven not to do my own will, but the will of him who sent me. This is the will of him who sent me that all that he's given me, I lose nothing. That's never perish, right?
Verse 40, this is the will of my father that everyone who beholds his son and believes in him will have eternal life. So we could say, yeah, there seems to be a never perish and eternal life related by Christ again.
Now what I'm gonna do is just do something really simple. I'm going to do a phrase search for eternal life and just see if I find anything. Logos. It's expensive, but it's a good program. It's very good.
Using it for years and years. Wow. How about that? Wow. Guess how many times the phrase eternal life appears in the Bible? And also, it only occurs in the New Testament. Interesting. Guess how many times the phrase, take a guess.
I'm surprised. Take a guess. You spoke, you said, I don't know. So what is your guess? I have no idea. That's not a good guess. You have to have an idea. Give me a number. Four. That's not bad. What do you say?
I would have thought about six or seven. That's what I would have thought. What do you think? 10. 10? One more. Three? 41 times. Like, wow. Right now I'm going, oh, wait a minute. This is kind of interesting.
Notice what the rich young ruler says. What good thing must I do to obtain eternal life? And Jesus says, eternal life there, eternal punishment by the righteous, eternal life. What do I do? What I'm looking to look for now is if there's a relationship in the red letters of eternal life and never perishing.
I'm just gonna see. I'm going down a tangent. Am I gonna learn anything? I don't know. I've actually thought about this before and just never done it. So in the age to come eternal life, believe in him, we'll have eternal life.
That's John 3 .15. Shall not perish, have our life, John 3 .16. Will spring eternal life? Okay, how about this? John 5 .24. Truly, truly I say to you, he who hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and does not come into judgment.
Let's not perish, right? And so I can go on and on. And I'm looking. I myself will raise him up on the last day. We already went over that. He believes there's eternal life, John 6 .47. I can go to see if there's a relationship there.
And so John 10 .28, which I already went over, give eternal life to them and shall never perish. And I'm looking for the word perish. So what I'd probably do is do a search with the word perish and life and another search and see what they come up with.
And this is exactly some of the things I would do sometimes, just like this. And I'd go, I'm gonna go check this out. And I would go look. And it might be a tangent. It'll take me a half hour and I'll just come back with, well, I didn't really learn anything out of it.
I thought that there'd be more of a correlation between eternal life and not perishing, but I was not correct. I had an idea and it's not correct, but in that I was expecting more, but it's there. Okay, so, and then that's the words of Jesus, but then the phrase eternal life comes out into other things like the epistles.
Now I'd like to know if there's a relationship there, but I'm not gonna do that right now because I just shut everything down, stop talking and just think for minutes and minutes and put things in spreadsheets and stuff like that.
That's what I do, I get anal about it and stuff like that. What? Put a pin in it. Put a pin in it, that's right, put a pin in it. I would actually get involved in these kinds of studies. I can't do it anymore because I'm just getting older, but I would go into self-hypnosis and this is no joke.
And my wife would have to come up to me and we actually had an arrangement. That I'd have books open all over. And I was, I mean, she could tell I was down deep. And I actually have a phrase to her. I'd say, look, I'm gonna be studying, I'm going deep.
And that meant if you're gonna talk to me, you have to come over and just stand there and wait until I come out of it. And I have to put things, it's weird what I do, but I put things in different places in my head and categories.
And I'd say, okay, that goes here, that goes like that. Okay, okay, now what were you saying? Can I relate them? And so she'd have to talk to me. I'd do this, it's kind of weird, but it's what I do. And so I remember once she's standing there for a full minute and, or I finally, I go, yeah.
And she's looking at me and she goes, you know how long I was standing here? I go, no, she goes, about a minute, full minute, just standing here. You were? Okay. She goes, don't go back at it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, or punch, yeah, she goes, cause I was sitting and she was standing and she goes, blah, blah, blah.
And I went, okay. And she goes, cause you know, I didn't go, yeah, okay. Which means I want to get right back into this. I'm so in, you know, and she goes, oh, poor woman. And so she'd walk off and I'd go back in, you know, like that because, you know, a lot of times I have all this in my head.
If you come in abruptly, you can hear the crashing. It takes me five, 10 minutes to get back into where I was. And so that's what I would do for real. But you could see how this could lend itself to that.
They go, wait a minute. And we would all do the same thing. You could try to think, oh yeah, that's okay. It's like that, okay. You got the stuff in your head and then someone comes up and goes, can I ask you a question?
No, no, no, no, no, not right now. I'm really into this, you know, it's not just me. People do that. And it's a lot of fun, but my wife would actually come up and stand there and sometimes she'd go like this, raise her hand.
And it's not because I'm disrespectful, but it's because I'm like, I'm so in that she'd just wait, she'd move and I'd come out of it and I'd break it. Okay, wait a minute. That's my wife. She lives here too.
All right. And she's nice looking. And I'd, you know, come out and go, making me a sandwich? You can say that. Yeah, got to come out either swinging or making her smile, you know, making a sandwich. Cause with hers, she'd smile while shaking her head.
The person didn't have like a frying pan in her hand or something. That one I don't. She had a cast iron. She had a cast iron like that. No, wait, she'd get my attention a lot better than that. I'll tell you.
All right. I tell her that. I go, I know how you're gonna, and she goes, I'm leaving. So, so anyway, all in fun. So you see, interpreting scripture is not just a set of rules. It's a little bit of art and it's practice and it's digging and it's asking questions.
And I think that's the best part. Ask a question. And, you know, so if I were to just randomly just go through here and I'm just picking and I just whittle at stops, you know, and as a result of this, Pilate made efforts to release him.
But the Jews cried out saying, if you release this man, you're no friend of Caesar. Anyone who makes himself out to be king opposes Caesar. Well, if I really want to get into this, which is not that interesting to me really, but sometimes I'll go, oh, I'm just curious.
I'll look up every word of Caesar. Why would the Pharisees say this? Why would the Pharisees, the Jews say, the Jews cried out, if you release him, you're no friend of Caesar. Wait a minute, the Jews are supposed to be opposed to Caesar.
Why are they doing this? They must hate him. That teaches me something about hate, what hatred does. Hatred blinds you, hatred guides you, hatred robs you of objectivity. And it caused you not to see truth and to see sacrifice and to see love.
And I go, I'm gonna look up the word hate. The word hate is not here, but I might want to do a study on the word hate now because the idea is here. And so when I was teaching in Escondido in San Diego, we had this thing, we would say, tangent.
We would get off onto something and it was a word and we all loved it because like this, this, we'd go, let's look, look at the word hate, let's see how it is. Okay, tangent. And we were stopping the study and we're off for one or two hours in another direction.
And we loved it. And we had people telling me they loved that. And this is exactly what I would do, is this kind of a thing. And I learn. And the more you do it, the more you learn. And I can teach you guys how to use Word to keep notes.
And I actually, what I will do, I'll make my documents in Word and I put, I have an outline form and then I have the navigation panel where I can see my outlined areas. I can go on the left side, see what it is.
I also will go in when I think my document's about ready, I'll go in and spend a day and just put in index references and then put an index in the back and put a table of contents in the front and I'll hit generate.
And then I can see what my document is doing. So my document on Calvinism is 94 or 93 pages. On Catholicism is like 180 pages. And on science is like 35 pages. And so I have all this, I do this for a living.
Okay, so I have to have my information done. But this is some of the stuff I'll do. And when I'm researching COVID, for example, I'm researching COVID, masks. Today I was researching obesity deaths because I have a table I'm developing on different causes of death.
H1N1, HIV, whatever. Obesity. And what's the, oh man, I'll tell you, it's a lot worse than COVID. Woo, oh, it is. And yet we don't shut down economies for that, do we? No. What about the flu? Oh, the flu?
Well, my research is, we're kind of rambling now, but my research has shown COVID is about, it's about two times more infectious, deadly than the flu. Now, here's the thing though. COVID doesn't really affect children, but the flu does.
And yet they don't want the children to wear masks for the flu, but they do for COVID. Interesting. What's that? That's interesting. Uh-huh. And I've done research on the size of viruses. They're 0 .2 to 0 .5, or 0 .2 to five microns, which is a 10 to the negative, oh, I'm trying to remember all this stuff, negative six.
So it's one millionth of a meter. And guess, I'll just ramble now. Did you know, this is true, did you know that cloth masks actually do reduce the spread of COVID? Yes, they do. They actually do. Really?
Uh-huh. Oh, I know there's a catch. There's a slight catch. Ask a question. They reduce the spread of COVID, it does. That's the right question. By how much? 3%. They're only 3 effective. Surgical masks, they also reduce the spread of COVID.
By how much? Oh, by how much, good question. By about 50%. Of the N95? The N95, good question. 95%. And the N99 is 99%. Okay, so do masks. So you can hear someone say, masks reduce the spread of COVID.
That's correct. Now with N95 masks, now if there was a bubonic something, okay, coming around, I'll be wearing an N99, okay? And I'm gonna be wearing it, I'm gonna get as many as I can. I'm gonna rob little old ladies to get my masks and she's out there, you know.
I'm gonna get them, all right? I don't want bubonic anything, all right? So I'm not gonna be wearing a cloth mask I put in my pocket or a surgical mask because it's gonna be too risky, all right? So I'm gonna go for it.
I have no problem with masks because the risk of fiber coming in, oxygen deprivation is so low compared to the death rate of it at severity. There's a relationship. I'm gonna figure if I could ever figure how to figure that out.
But with cloth masks, 3 effectiveness, but that's not worth the risk. This is what's really interesting. I wonder if I can ever figure out how to do a, it's called a cost risk analysis kind of a thing.
And to say, when does it become ineffective? When does it become counterproductive as a whole? Then you gotta go with the bell curve and I guess I need statisticians to do that kind of stuff. It's beyond me.
But these are the questions I'm asking. And I'm asking these kinds of questions because I do research in theology. In the Bible, I'm trained to ask the right questions. Now there are disadvantages to this too.
My wife will say something to me, I'm like, do I ask those five questions or for clarification on the sub point or do I just clean up the mess I made? Which is it? What's that? That's where you survive.
I just clean it up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, but do I use a towel this way, circular? What if I'm facing north? Shut up. What you said? What's that? Here, I'll just do it for you. Yeah, I'll just do it for you.
That's the way. Now you see the ulterior motive of, oh yeah, I just go relax. I'll go watch TV. Okay, get out of here. That's why you burn eggs, till they're just like Frisbees. You can just throw them.
She's not listening. No, I meant the meat is. Oh, she is so aware of my tricks, but I got a few left up my sleeve. One of them is walk up quietly behind her in the kitchen and just stand behind her. She turns, get out of that.
She still hasn't gotten used to that one. That's my joy. Well, anyway, so COVID, if you guys want, I can talk more about COVID and stuff I've been finding, but this is what we do for interpretation. This is the kind of stuff.
So I'll tell you what I'm gonna do. Just let people ask questions. Could be that as a basically an hour and a half, and then we can close it out officially. And if you want, I'll talk COVID. It's up to you.
Stuff I've found, but don't have it memorized though. So let me know what you guys want to do and where is. Interesting. I think my window that I had my, for, so I can see the, all the tech stuff. Go ahead and type stuff in.
Okay, did this help you guys at all here? Yes. So Max, how do you deal with names though? How do what? If you do a word search by name, how do you make sure that the name that you're looking at is or isn't the same person?
For diets, for example, I posted a question.
I just did a word search for a guy, for example,.
But all kinds of different guys. And I'm not sure, how do you know if that's the same person or not?
An easy answer. And it's a bad word that I sometimes use with people. And people get upset when I say the word to them a lot of times, but the answer is this word called context. That's all. It's just, you gotta go to context and you can get it.
That's how you do it. Because that's the right question, actually. Because you will see the same person is mentioned different, like Judas is different places. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you're correct. You know what?
How come all of a sudden I'm out and I wanna get back in, but I can't get back in. I can see the stuff there. So if people wanna ask me questions or have any comments about stuff. Hey, kitty. Here, hold on.
Hold on a sec. Come here, you. Look at this. Look at that face. He's like, no, thank you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is one of our cats. Look how big he is. He's just under a year old. That's why I believe.
I'm offering you my feathers. Yeah.
You're liking that, aren't you? Yeah, I trust. Yeah. You're lucky. 10 years and 10 years.
I put him down. That's right. Get back into StreamYard on my computer. I was in. And now I have to log out and do all this stuff to get back in and we'll do it. All right. So, ask Dave Place, I'd like to hear the answer.
Oh, Joanne says that. Let me see if I can get some of this up here. He wants to hear the answer. What? Dave, what's the question? I think you just answered it. No, his question is, Dave, what's it like being with Matt?
Isn't he great? Oh. We're very friendly. Yeah. Somehow. Yes, definitely. Yeah. Very great. Indeed. Okay. Let's see what it says. Thanks, Matt, Charlie, Annique for her hospitality. Invitation to post.
Annique's not here because one of our daughters is out of town, she's here. And so they're out having fun. We don't trust the same science who gave us evolution. Oh, I could talk about that too. So much I could talk about.
I could do a whole teaching on science. I'd like to do that. And the philosophy of science. Okay, so if you have any questions, great. Evening, Carter Valley. Ask Dave Place, I'd like to hear the answer.
Ask what? He's telling a story, Dave. Go in and ask that. Club Hayes. Yeah, that's right. If you have a question, now's the time. If not, whatever. This guy is such a clown car. And fur. Most uncoordinated cat I've ever seen.
He's still growing, that's probably why. You almost lost him. Yeah, yeah, he's a good cat, though. All right, any questions? Evening, Carter Family, he's telling a story. All right. What was that verse?
You said it was super easy. Wow, what was it? 1 John 2, 2. Yeah, that was it. Let me tell you what we'll do. We'll close this out, and then we'll just say, we'll talk, all right? About whatever you wanna talk about.
Sound good? Yeah. All right, I'm gonna pray. Just close that officially, but then we'll just continue. I'll leave the video up. Lord, thank you for your word and the truth. And just ask for that you'd bless the rest of our fellowship and our conversation.
And I hope, Lord, that we would grow closer to you through studying your word like we did and the fellowship that we have through you. We ask this, Jesus, in your precious name, amen. Okay, I'm gonna use the restroom, and then, oh, yeah.
This is good. Right there. Oh, yeah. So, look in the mirror.
That's all I'm saying. What's it called? Bure. Bure. Bure? Seriously? Yeah. He's giving you kisses. Yep, that's what it's doing.
It likes you. I don't know if it likes my sandals or if it wants me to start chewing on you. I don't know, I'm super afraid of it.
I'd chomp on you like a sausage. Okay.
If we can get together, we don't have to come back back here anymore. Okay, and I'll pick up my chalkboard. What verse did you just say? Oh, 1 John 2 .2. Okay. Yeah, I was looking somebody up and described himself as a 4 .12.
One of the scriptures that he pointed to is his reason for not chomping on you, but the tongue that's bandwagoned.
That was really inciting. 1 John 2 .2. He's an appreciation not only for our sins, but the sins of the whole world, right? Yes. Does that refute Calvinism? Limit his element?
No. It was one of the scriptures listed among about three as to that someone was naming as to why he was able to accept four of the five points, but that one was his stumbling block.
Because Jesus, obviously, according to that verse, obviously died for everybody that ever lived, right? Here's the first thing. Is that what the text is saying? Does the text say that Jesus died for everyone?
It doesn't say it. But it says whole world. So again. It says whole world. What does it mean? Whole world. Fair question. Also, what's another question we have to ask about this?
He's an appreciation only for our sin, but the sin of the whole world. What else must we ask? So who's the, our sin. Is that just the disciples. That's true. Yep. And it's, and also it's like it's extended outside of that.
So not only the disciples, but also. Right. Us, but the whole world. Yeah.
Right. That's correct. But there's something glaring in the text.
Well, is it the use of propitiation as opposed to expiation? What does the word propitiation mean? Well, I think it's that it was actually done as opposed to possibly.
That's the critical key here. People will often come to a text and assume it means certain things. Does it? What does the word propitiation mean? Well, when you do the research, you find it means the sacrifice that turns away wrath.
It does not mean a sacrifice that makes the wrath of God turn away a bull. It does not mean that it can be turned away later. It is turned away. It is turned away by the actual act of that propitiatory sacrifice.
That's what it actually means. That's why I say 1 John 2 ,2 and 1 John 10 and I think Romans 3 ,25, propitiation, it's easy to address. What does it mean? Propitiation means a sacrifice that turns away wrath.
If that's the case. What. Charlie, what's up? Hold on a sec. I won't be able to answer you or hear you unless I do, let's see.
Yeah, did you want me to drop the StreamYard link in if people have questions that way? Did you want me to drop in the StreamYard link for people to ask questions that way? The link to the StreamYard.
You haven't ended the broadcast. Well, the broadcast is still going out. Do you want the StreamYard? Yeah, it's still going on. Yes. Do you want the StreamYard link posted for people to come in and ask questions that way?
Oh, you mean the actual StreamYard? No, I wasn't understanding him. I was on my end. All right, now I got to get back in. Here we go. All right. Hope you guys can hear me. So the word propitiation is the key.
It means a sacrifice that turns away wrath. It doesn't make a potential. So if it's actually removed, then if they're going to say that it means that he turns the sin away of everybody, the whole world, and they say that the word world means every individual, then they're saying that Jesus actually paid the sin debt for every individual and therefore they have to go to heaven.
That's universalism. They don't get what they're doing. They don't see that they have to understand these things. And this is what will happen a lot. I'll tell people this and they'll say, Matt, you don't know what you're talking about.
And I'll say, well, if I don't, please show me from scripture, from lexicons, from dictionaries, from scholars, what these words mean. And let's look at it. But I'll quote them because I have my notes and I know where to go in my notes to say, this is what the word propitiation means.
Here's the quote. Here's a reference from the lexicons what it means. This is what it actually means. So here's my documentation to show you it means this. If it's a sacrifice that actually removes the wrath of God and he propitiated every individual who ever lived, then we have questions we have to ask.
Does it then mean then that everybody's sin has been removed? Yes. Well, then how can they go to hell? Because they have to accept it. That doesn't say anything in the text like that. Now you're reading into the text.
It said that you're gonna say it's removed for everybody. If it's removed for everybody, then God cannot just require that you can't have him go to hell if he has done it for everybody. It just doesn't make sense.
You see, the thing about asking questions is, the thing about asking questions is is you have to learn how to ask questions. And in my opinion, that when we start asking questions, some questions are better than others.
But I don't see any question as being the wrong question. Because if you ask a question, trying to get back into my account so I can get the code to get in, I can see everything in here in my laptop. If you learn how to ask the right questions, you're gonna be able to do a lot more in your text.
Man, oh, there's pop-ups. I gotta take this computer and I gotta just sign in a few things. It's wanting a code and I don't wanna get in there to get the codes. I can get in here to do this. But then, oh, yeah, yeah.
Anyway, but I can fix it. I just need five minutes. But asking questions is critical when it comes to interpreting scripture. This is not taught very much in hermeneutical principles. Ask questions because the questions divide truth from error.
They can sometimes cause confusion, which can be good. They can clear up confusion, which can be good. Sometimes when they cause confusion it's because we're asking the right question. And that means we've gotta study even more.
So when I was reading Romans 5 .18, when it said years ago, when I was reading this years ago, I remember the restaurant I was in. I had brought my Bible. I was just reading it. I was in San Diego. I was by myself.
And I remember reading, I forgot why I was reading that, but I was reading, it went, through one transgression, there resulted condemnation to all men. So also through one act of righteousness, there resulted justification of life to all men.
Well, justification means you're legally righteous before God to all men. That's universalism. But Mark 3 .29, Matthew 25 .46, people go to hell. Now I have a problem. Now I have verses that contradict each other.
So now what am I gonna do? Well, I know that there's a contradiction. It's here, not in the word. So I had to study. It took me roughly two weeks of study to figure it out. And it was real simple. And this is where, this is the moment, so to speak, when I started shifting in my understanding of how to interpret scripture and how to study scripture.
When I discovered that the word all, the same word, posh, in both places in the text has different meanings. And I could prove it. And I learned how to prove it. And it blew me away. But it took two weeks to unravel and re-ravel what was going on in my head.
And when I got that, that's when I learned the idea about defining your words, reading the context, seeing how the word is used. Even though a word can have a semantic domain, you might have, so we have here, we have a pie, it was slivers, right, sections.
Well, green, for example, can have the meaning chlorophyll, you know, the green in a plant, but it can also mean money. Those are opposites, so to speak, opposites, you know, a color and money or a plant color, chlorophyll and money.
Well, you can also have like, you know, money, you know, you can have other sub-meanings in that relation area. There are ways in which a word can have different meanings, but they're related to a same area.
And that's what I was looking for. How is it used? How's the word all used in similar contexts, similar speech? Well, 1 Corinthians 15, 22, in Adam all die, in Christ all shall be made alive. That's a parallel verse of Romans 5, 18, it's just shorter.
I discovered that, I'm like, wait a minute, why is Paul talking like this? And it caused me confusion, but it's also excited. And now when I say it, I go, yes, I'm gonna find something out, I don't know what it is.
But I learned that from that verse, and I can go into 2 Corinthians 15, or 2 Corinthians 5, 14, as it relates, all this relates, let me show you this. Romans 5, the things in my head related to this are Romans 5, 18, 1 Corinthians 15, 22, 2 Corinthians 5, 14, Colossians 3, one through four, Romans chapter six, one and two.
These are the verses that relate, that I use to teach and to expand how this group of things relates to each other. Because I discovered the word all, and what God means. And then on a side note, Mark 3, 29, Matthew 25, 46, Revelation 14, 10, Revelation, or 14, 11, and 20, 10.
Those are the verses that say condemnation. Okay, and then he wants all to be saved, 2 Peter 3, 10, right? But then that takes you over to Mark 3, Mark 4, 10 through 12 and 11, that he speaks in parables so they'll not be saved.
What's going on? He wants all to be saved, but he speaks so they won't all be saved. Who's the all? Well, that now leads me over to John 6, 35, all that the Father, John 6, 37, all that the Father gives me will come to me.
Well, who's the all? You see, now it's like one thing led to me understanding a whole bunch of stuff and seeing how it comes together. One thing. But it took work, but I had the tools because I've been to seminary and I've been studying.
And I think a lot of people wouldn't have been able to figure it out, not because I'm smarter. No, because I happen to have been through, was able to look at the Greek, which I, you know, wouldn't have been able to do that if I hadn't been to seminary.
So it was just, you know, fortuitous by God's great grace. I was able to, oh, I can see, oh, that's what the Greek says. There's no verb in there. Why is there no verb in there? Caused me to study. And so I just started reading Greek scholars commentaries and they weren't answering the question.
It really became quite a study. So I was blessed that I had that skillset by God's grace. And so I was able to do that. And it taught me a lot. And I've used the principles I've learned out of the fountain of Romans 5, 18, to be able to see other things and other scriptures in other areas and develop truths.
And what? And then teach you guys. You guys taking off? All right. We'll just stay here and keep blabbing if you guys want. Nick's not here, which means I can do whatever I want. My wife's away. Aliens.
Aliens fest. Let me know when you want to do an aliens. Let me know and we'll do it because I'm ready. You too, Mike, if you want.
Okay, see you guys. God bless. You'll have a house to yourself, but do you know how to make a sandwich though?
I can make a sandwich because I've watched my wife do it.
You might be given the recipe on radio. Oh, I get, yeah. Let's make some good sandwiches. Yeah, I can make some good sandwiches. Yeah.
Yeah. Actually, I, you know, I tease about it, but my wife's a really good cook and I enjoy just blabbing and teasing and stuff like that. And, and stuff. Even my wife still smiles at my male chauvinism.
She still does. You know, it's all, it's stupid, stupid fun. Yeah. You guys got to take off, huh?
Yeah. I've got to work tomorrow. I got, I am off, but I have to take the car.
All right. How's it going at the, at the work?
It's, it's gotten better. It didn't have to go to HR. I found out she never, so I don't know if my manager, you know, with that said, here's, you know, here's a phone, she can text with that. Yeah. And so they got, they were going to get human resources but I might have missed it.
So she goes, is there any way possible for you guys to work it out? She said, HR is not your friend, you know, for anything. And she said, so, is there a way to work it out?
Okay. Oh, I'm glad it's, it's working out though. Yeah. Good.
Good. All right. Yeah. Cause they, well, I'm glad it did it one way but they're, they're doing restructuring. I found out we're not going to be on the same team under the same manager.
That should be fun and interesting. Right? Yeah. He's like, no, I don't know.
But now I'm just, I'm just glad it didn't have to. Yes. Good. That's good. All right.
Did you guys have a barbecue yet? No. We're going to talk about that and some other stuff going on. And I may go to a prophecy seminar from the SDA church. And then I'm thinking about writing up an SDA fact sheet and passing it out to people, exposing their false doctrines.
You know, just, you know, me, just good times. Right. Always wanting to make friends, right? Yeah. I'm here to make friends. That's right. Are you going to take that back? Are you going to leave that?
Leaving it? Yes. Okay. That's what I want. Good. All right. Okay. God bless you guys. We'll see you. Drive safely. Good. All right. Did you have a good trip? I had an interesting trip. I'm going to get into the chat room here.
I'm getting my password stuff, get up. So I'll get Bill to get in. And if you guys have any questions. All right. So hold on. Yeah. So I'm doing that. I'm just going to the process to get my password and do stuff.
And we'll see what he'll say. So hold on. All right. Let's see.
All right. I think that's the one right there. Okay. Hold on folks. We're right there.
Get this in. Oh, I know we got to do here. So only so much you can do in a day, but you got everything done that needed to get done and a couple more and beyond that. So that was good. Yeah. All right.
I guess we're going to be able to do this in time. Everybody's. That's interesting. Three days to get my COVID test back. Okay. Yeah. But I'm sorry, Matt. But if I'm being there extra days at my son's house, I had a bug company.
I hired a bug company to come in and spray the yard and the house and everything else. Well, they screwed up. This is what my son does for a living.
My friend called. I can't get in without doing a whole bunch of stuff. I don't know what happened. So I'm just not going to worry about it right now. See if you guys have any questions or comments inside of here.
And with that, we'll just bail. And I can't see if anybody's coming in. My phone's too small. Right, Matt spoke about before, but I know it's probably the busiest person on planet earth. One of them. All right.
So I'm just not going to, I'm going to close it down. We're just done. And we'll talk to you guys later. Okay. So have a great one. Next week, we'll do a little study on, a little study, a life study on Greek.
Okay. All right. We'll talk to you guys later.