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Good afternoon, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania and the rest of humanity Living

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This is Chris Arns and your host of iron sharpens iron.

Wishing you all happy Wednesday on this 20th day of July 2016 and

I am delighted that we have back on the program Mac Tomlinson, he was just on

with us very recently and we have him back.

To discuss a topic that we did not have time to discuss the last time he was on.

It was supposed to be part two of our discussion and we just got so involved in our discussion

and got so many good questions from listeners that we We couldn't move on to the the topic that we

are discussing today starting a library.

Suggested building blocks with the best of Christian books and as I said, my guest is Mac

Tomlinson who is pastor of Providence Chapel in Denton, Texas and Mac is

also going to be discussing a conference that he is not only organizing but speaking

at.

That's the fellowship conference New England in Portland Maine and it's my honor and privilege to

welcome you back to iron sharpens iron pastor Mac Tomlinson.

Good to be with you as always.

Amen, brother.

And I know that reading is a very important part of

Your life and obviously it should be a not only a part of every Christians life.

But it should be a major part of every pastor's life, especially and that should go without saying.

But did you always have this passion for reading.

In fact I could tell you With myself even though I I always

all my life got very good grades.

Up until I started experimenting with drugs in high school and that really Plummeted me down the

toilet as far as the grades, but that had more to do with Not attending classes and things like

that but I was always a Smart kid had good grades,

but I really didn't become a voracious reader.

Until I became a Christian.

I don't know if that's the same with you, but tell us something about this appetite for reading that developed in your

life.

During you

know made

probably see

I became a Christian when I was 19 years.

At that point and I had a

pastor began reading

the by hungry and

soon to Different

friends

one book was and I read the book

you and God

correct.

I immediately realized I didn't know hardly anything,

but that book impacted me so much.

It made me say I must read the other book.

In college

someone gave me the little boy

W tozer stirred me.

Tell me what it meant to have a heart to

seek after God to know him and A W toe

in the 20th

cent

paperback book.

After

that as

I grew

much and I learned so much That I realized

so that

was how I can

books and reading now.

What kind of biblical encouragement can you give to our listeners to develop the

Habits that will also increase an appetite for further reading in their life.

Well, I think one of the things to realize is intimidated about.

You know, I've never been a reader.

I Didn't do good in school.

I'm not in intimidated about reading and.

Or they don't even

see you

begin

to reach

the

biblical and I wonder.

If we have often thought of this and by the way Let me just encourage your listeners if you're listening

to way I could ever help

other Christians.

Hmm, and so I encourage you to get a pen iPad

or your in fact.

Let me give my email address so that they could also ask you question.

Yeah, that's Chris Arnzen at gmail .com see HR is AR n

Z n at gmail .com.

Take notes.

Not only of

all I don't want so they

could also and go to the archives.

Biblical and I don't think we realize how often the Bible

is referenced.

Often mentioned in in Matthew 12

regarding The Sabbath he said have you not read what David did? in

Matthew 19 for

concerning true worship.

Babes.

You have prepared me one.

After his resurrection in

Matthew 21 the stone looked

in To a

lawyer who were

many places

to the

Thessalonians reading

the little

important with an oath.

See the cloak

that I

love bring with

him

the Lord yet He still.

I've heard

Christians say

because about what

God has

done in

his

Bible alone.

Oh, wouldn't

you

also

say that?

There are Gifts that God has given to the church throughout the centuries

Where he has placed teachers in our midst.

Men who has spent their entire lives sometimes were able to dedicate

more of their time to study in centuries past than your

your average theologian or professor even could today because of the distractions and so on

and we have such a wealth a rich fountain if you will of

Available theologians and teachers who can help teach us what the scriptures mean

who can exegete them and so on and we can find their exegesis in the written pages of these books and

To discount them is the height of arrogance because you're really saying that you are smart enough and know your

Bible well enough To do all this by yourself.

Exactly right.

Well, I think you have a quote at the beginning of your program Every time I think

it's wrong.

Yeah, that's the solid grand Christian books

commercial.

It's a quote by Charles Adams Spurgeon and it is it is the heart of arrogance

because if I If I believe all I need is the Bible.

I am saying I don't need any of my brethren.

It's the same thing as saying, you know, I won't go to church and

read my Bible.

It's it's a delusion.

That's right.

Amen.

Well, did you have anything to add about the biblical encouragement for reading?

Because I also like to know the spiritual benefits of reading.

I mean, we've obviously just started addressing The fact that there are teachers available to us

great giants of the faith that Know the original languages of the

scriptures and so on and who have just been a precious help to.

They've been a precious help to each other.

I mean you you read about Calvin and his learning from Augustine and you learn about Spurgeon and his learning

from Calvin and many of the great minds before him Through the books that they read.

Well, that's exactly right and The benefit

Encouragement about

that a little more in a moment.

But you get from what God

has done in history through the

lives of other Christian new world.

I'll give an example.

Years ago. I got very interested in the subject

It's work in the life of gene

because I would read in the Bible about coming forth from

the I need I want to see Our Lord's

example called the banner

of truth.

Oh, yeah trust magazine and About the time I

was interested in this subject on the Holy Spirit truth had to

bet on the Holy Spirit in the life of Jesus

and it was exactly what was I was interested in those two and

it opened up a

Complete my lord

in his bed.

I had never even

thought of

then I went to Oh expended on

it if I had not read

other men, right?

Amen.

Now, let me let me go ahead and add a negative

the negative is a

Mm -hmm on

the internet more than ever

many books are

dangerous.

Yeah.

Yeah,

in fact

the John

MacArthur said something excellent about

Joel Osteen's book your best life now.

He said if your best life is now that means you're going to hell.

How else.

How else for a Christian could he possibly even think that this would be our

best life?

Because if it is as being MacArthur said it very plainly if this is the best that that it's

going to get that means later On you're going to help.

Well, that's that's it.

Absolutely, right and many Christians are professing Christians don't see that

they should Have about this because they hear about a book

about it about it.

And so they read it and I think oh, this is great many books it seemed

good or not and You know, I think

knowledgeable Christians Should use our knowledge of just to

talk to people about bad books.

Many times when someone has asked me.

Have you read?

Your best life now.

I'll use it as an opportunity not to be

rude.

I'll give him a recent example.

I saw a truck driver.

He was sitting in his truck.

I I Just wanted to go over to his truck and speak to him and witness to him.

So I worked up the courage to do that.

I walked over to his truck I climbed up on the step and I asked him how he was doing.

I said do you ever get to read on the road or live in.

His answer was yeah, listen to Joe single -day

opportunity.

I Didn't.

I didn't become negative.

I said, oh, let me tell you about much better Listens to

beg as much and I

mentioned things for him to read and so my point is

excellent because books are They're not enough initially.

They're not offensive.

Everybody loves books.

So we can use books as great tools if we under yeah, that

was an excellent bridge there.

Well, I know that you have.

As most Christians do you have your favorite authors that have blessed you throughout your life.

And if somebody is especially if somebody is building a library and obviously

they want to avoid wasting money on the garbage some of which you just

mentioned and They want to make sure that they are stocking those shelves

with the ammunition basically that they're gonna need.

To prepare themselves to Not only be further

equipped to defend their own faith With those that they happen to

encounter in public or even in their own families or their colleagues at work or wherever they may be

but they also need to be able to expose the errors of the enemy.

So if you could let these folks know who were Wanting to start

this library or this study.

In their homes or their offices.

What what should they start stocking their shelves with?

Well, let me just mention some categories first sure because a Christian's reading should be balanced

we should not just read devotional books or We should not read just

biographies or just theology or just church history.

We need to have various category

different categories.

So in doctrine

important category Commentaries

readable commentaries and any Christian that wants to get a commentary on a book of the

Bible a commentary is just.

When

someone

say to understand Romans, he's commenting on the

book of Romans.

So Commentaries can be valuable right ones because

some are very technical.

Or they use the Greek readable

commentaries New

Testament

good for pastors.

It's called a let's that commentary.

Christians daily devotionals

very good

to

have it along with

your Bible

Paul David trip

and of

course

these

major categories They will

for understanding in their in their

Christian life.

Just like the Bible is got all different kinds of categories of.

Teaching in there.

You've got all different kinds of literature in the Bible you have history you have

theology you even have Songs, I mean you have all kinds of things in there.

Yes, that's

important.

Categories are.

Important have gained knowledge.

We're gonna be going to the point.

I'm sorry, brother.

Go ahead.

I was just gonna say we were gonna go to a break right now.

So this way we could pick you up.

Instead of cutting you off midstream We can pick you up right where we left off there.

And if anybody would like to join us on the air the question and there are a couple of people already waiting to have their questions asked.

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that is going to be held.

It's going to be here before you know it this August August 4th through the 6th.

It's being held at the Deering Center Community Church in Portland, Maine

and pastor Mac Tomlinson is one of the speakers in addition to pastor

Jesse Barrington and Charles Leiter and Michael Durham and

The website is fellowship conference new england .com Fellowship conference new

england .com and if you could pastor Mac Tomlinson Let our listeners know something more about this conference that you are so

passionate about.

Well, there's a real hunger of Among I

think because virtual climate is

so dark.

All conference Less than well less than two

not large like many conferences in is I think

information on that is on the website.

True.

It's a warm

-hearted atmosphere it's loving and Encouraging.

Preaching

is

Pastoral.

You will

find it a delightful

experience and very edifying.

So we hope that are coming.

Great and Once again, that website is fellowship conference new

england .com Fellowship conference new england .com and we'll be reminding you about that conference every day

until The day of the conference or at least close to that day so

keep your ears open for more information about that and we hope that you can attend and

even if you are not in the Portland main area if you have the financial means

to jump in a Plane or an Amtrak we would urge you to get out there and that

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Now, it's up to you pastor Mac.

We do have several people Waiting to have questions asked that do you want to finish a

point before we do that?

Or would you like me to start off with some questions from the listeners?

I'll go ahead and take the listeners questions and then we can move on to other things after the

questions.

Okay, great.

Let's see here.

We have.

Well, we have a listener all the way in Scotland listening and It's

spelled Kinross Scotland, but usually when I'm speaking to somebody from Scotland or the

UK They have a completely different pronunciation for something that looks very easily

pronounced phonetically spelt two syllables Kinross, but who knows the way they

pronounce it.

But We have Murray.

In Kinross Scotland, he's got a couple of questions for you.

Could you ask Pastor Mac Tomlinson to advise whether the fellowship conference in New

England will be streamed live so that those who live further afield might have

the opportunity of Following.

And maybe you'll answer that first because he does have a question about books as well.

Yes, the plan is for their the conference to be live -streamed

they go to the or possibly also

God

-willing

and.

Of course Murray.

There's also I'm sure an airport near you.

Why don't you jump in a plane and fly out to Portland Maine and go to the Congress.

But here we have a couple of other questions from Murray.

He asked.

Given the proliferation of cults and sects in recent years Would Mac

Tomlinson be in a position to recommend a book that maintains?

The same standard as Walter Martin's kingdom of the cults, but is more

comprehensive in.

Scope Murray, that's a great question.

Unfortunately, they did work

and that Walter Martin's work was was wonderful

30 years ago at least.

Mm -hmm.

And so it is not his work would not be.

Well, I can say that I know that the that Walter Martin's kingdom of the cults was updated even

after his passing and Entering glory.

They did revise that but this is quite providential

Murray because on August 24th interviewing

Bodie Hodge Who is one of the authors of a brand new book

that is hot off the press.

Actually the volume 2 is a brand new book there's two

volumes of world religions and cults and We

just got into our hands volumes 1 2 and

you know something I don't usually do this Murray because Overseas shipping is

expensive.

We don't usually don't give our giveaway books To folks overseas, but I am going to get those

two books to you somehow Both volume 1 and volume 2 of world religions and

cults and Bodie Hodge Works with Ken Ham

of answers in Genesis.

So I am very confident even though I have not read These books because I just got them within

a day or so.

But I I trust Ken Ham a great deal With his

discernment and I know that he happens to be theologically a Calvinist just as my guest is

and as I am.

So give me your complete mailing address Murray and I will make sure that we get those

books off to you.

I'm gonna let Murray have one more question here.

Is there a definitive modern book?

Covering the thorny issues of marriage divorce and remarriage That Mac Tomlinson

could suggest.

I lost my Jay Adams book on the subject many years ago and assume it is still out of print.

He has

better questions than I can probably answer.

Well, John Murray didn't John Murray write a book on that.

He did write a book.

It was a small book.

Murray the professor John Murray of Westminster Seminary wrote a small

book either marriage and Divorce

or may I can mention three books and

okay Craig Keener

Keeney Hendrickson,

but

he is a

divorce and

remarriage Keener

Jay

Adams

book that if any listener were copy.

Wow marriage marriage divorce and remarriage.

Hmm.

So I can hardly recommend these that I've mentioned.

Yes.

And I've failed to mention that our guest even though we did a past interview on it.

Our guest today wrote the biography of Conrad mural grace and truth and.

Once again, you can get all these books at Cumberland Valley Bible Book Service anything that our guest is mentioning

they can get their hands on it and.

Actually, I should say Biography on Conrad Murrow.

Oh, it's not.

No, but anyone could order it from Conrad.

Can contact me?

Let me.

Before we leave Murray.

Thank you for your good questions and a call from Scotland warms my heart.

Because I love Scotland.

I've been there.

I've traveled there.

Scotland has a history

That is almost unpersuaded.

In.

Their

bars all

Scottish.

Now, there's a

recent books

and focus by Tom Lennie.

It's

called land

of many revivals and Tom

Lennie has has been a marvelous.

Over 500 pages.

Wow.

Is he a living author?

Yes, he lived land of many revivals every

Major January 7 to 18.

Well, if anyone wants

to see God's the

way tree.

Yeah, and I understand they need another one.

They're badly.

Very very badly now as we do in America.

Yes.

Yeah, my pastor currently at Grace Baptist Church in Carlisle, Pennsylvania is in Scotland

right now.

His daughter's getting married and within at least a couple of weeks, I believe

and he is From.

I mean, I can't pronounce it correctly.

Probably that's Irish ire, I think and he attended Glasgow

University and then he is a graduate also a free Church of Scotland College in Edinburgh and

He is traveling right there in Scotland now, but he is my pastor at Grace Baptist Church in Carlisle, Pennsylvania.

I'm very thankful for him.

By the way, have you ever been to?

Ken Ross where our listener Murray is.

Okay, well I'm gonna try to get an interview with Lenny because Christian focus

has been Encouraging me to interview their authors and they have sent out books to us from Scotland

via there, I guess they're a United States hub and.

And.

We would love to see if we could get an interview arranged on that.

Well, thank you so much Murray for those wonderful questions.

And as I said get me your full address your full shipping address.

So we could get to you those books that you mentioned.

We also have Waiting for his question to be answered.

David in Ada, Ohio.

His question is should I focus on reading reformed and Calvinistic authors and

avoid Dispensational writers.

For example, should I read Edwards pink Bettner Sproul MacArthur Spurgeon

Calvin and Warfield? versus Dave Hunt Tommy ice Charles Ryrie,

etc.

Well, it's interesting David.

You might not know this but John MacArthur is a dispensationalist, but he's also Theologically

reformed in his soteriology anyway, and he's a he's a wonderful author one of my favorites.

But he is dispensationalist, but but that's interesting that he asked that Pastor Mac because you

actually encourage reformed Christians to go beyond the the barriers

of our of our reformational heritage to Read other writers from different theological

perspectives.

Do you not?

Pastor my heart Chris.

Yeah, I Couldn't hear you for a moment.

Could you repeat that?

Okay, would you want me to repeat the entire question by David?

Can you can you hear me?

Yeah, it seems like we're having some kind of phone problem.

Can you hear me now?

I think I got the question, but I didn't hear the end of what you asked me.

Oh.

Well, I remember That you had said I can't even remember if it was a personal

Conversation off the air or if it was on the air, but you said That you think that reformed

Christians should also investigate Reading the the writings

of some great men of God who were not theologically reformed and Calvinistic.

Absolutely, I do believe in reading.

Personally only Calvinistic in my theology.

I do

not only read now.

In fact he wrote a biography of Leonard Bravenhill and he will and he was not a Calvinist.

He is now.

He is now, of course.

No, I think there's a.

I think if we only read Authors

our theology.

I think we we miss that on the benefits other authors

for instance.

Anyone who is interested in a high view of God

true worship?

They should read a W tozer.

But a W tozer was not right.

Yeah Christian Missionary Alliance was his denomination or books on prayer.

You can't go wrong in reading him bounds.

Mm -hmm.

I think we you mentioned dispensation list.

I mean, I don't know if he would want to have on the top of his reading list Some of the men that he listed though.

He listed David Hunt and Tommy ice and Charles Ryrie.

Tommy ice is predominantly going to be writing exclusively about eschatology and

David Hunt, although he is in heaven now and knows better.

He had some dubious writings in fact.

He even later in his life developed the notion that if you came to Christ

underneath a Calvinistic Ministry you are not saved.

He became he began to hate Calvinism so much in his later years

and and it's such it's a shame because his middle name is is Charles Spurgeon, it's Dave

Charles Spurgeon hunt.

But.

He had a vehement hatred of of Calvinistic theology and Charles Ryrie, of

course some of his writings.

Didn't they lend towards the easy believers in camp and in opposition to Lordship

salvation.

Exactly. True.

They did.

My personal opinion is The

unity to the

Bible.

Wow.

It's destructive, but wouldn't you say.

John MacArthur even though he is a dispensationalist seems to have overcome that because most of his right.

Right.

I totally agree with that.

He has overcome that I think in my opinion is He's only.

Consistently,

right,

right.

Yeah, and so I mean he is one of my favorite of all time authors and still is and

One of my favorite of all time preachers as well.

Yes, I can echo that

as well in preaching.

That I don't agree with dispensationalism.

Right I.

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Pastor glass is a thoroughgoing five -point Calvinist and the bulk of his preaching

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But that there I've said my speech in defense of some of my Calvinistic heroes here.

We have a.

Are we having some sound problems there pastor Mac because it seems like there's a delay or something and

well.

There may be.

I'm doing my best.

So I'm on track with you.

Okay, hear me.

Well.

Yes, and Let's go to one more question from a listener and then we'll move on to some of our other

Topics from your Categories here of the best in books

Tyler and Mastic Beach, Long Island, New York.

Why do you think the church in America particularly is so anti -intellectual?

How do I answer those who lay the burden down on me for reading good solid doctrinal

volumes?

Well, I mean, I think they're we're in an age where there's an attitude of I

Don't know.

In one sense in Anti -intellectualism

many don't see connection.

The truth has to come to the mind.

I understand his question, right?

I.

Think those who do see the value of reading by

family by Friends even by church, they're going

to be can make

them see and appreciate.

You know the value from

quality books.

Yeah, like we've said before.

When.

People tell you that you should only be reading the Bible and you shouldn't be wasting your time reading books.

The very words coming out of their mouth are not in Scripture so they are

acting as a teacher using their own thoughts and Giving you bad information because

that that is not from the Bible what they told you to do.

And and the anti intellectual thing I don't know if you could

broad brush America as necessarily being anti intellectual but probably the

when you say that the the largest most heavily populated

groups of people who profess to be Christian are not Stressing

the intellectual end of the faith because that is just typically

a Sign of you know, what's been going on for centuries that men?

Want something that saves their conscience and makes them happy rather than the whole counsel of God,

which is not always Not always pleasant to the ears.

I mean, I don't know have any other explanation.

Do you have any Clue on that.

Are you hearing me Mac?

I'm sorry.

There seems to be a real big delay here.

Yes, yes.

Okay.

My reply would be the professing if that's a broad

term.

There's matic

Professing Christian denominations and

I think about that question.

I Think many Christians are experience based

They or

theology.

They think it's boring they think it's

unimportant they make no connection others.

They live in a culture of ignorance.

About what's what's out there and what's available in terms of Christ?

I did be told in South

Africa by a diamond mind and Children were playing marbles with

diamonds.

I've walked in

the

People have no clue what the difference because they're satisfied with the

shallow Christian experience they're satisfied with shallow knowledge and so

they can go to church on Sunday and Here at 20 minutes and

they go away

saying well that was really

we live in

and that

can and

they can.

Give an example.

There's a with a large company.

That's one day I gave

him a young couple

to China with the China in one

about two years into being in China the

Communist they

were

martyred.

Hmm.

She was not found.

But John and Betty Stan they were martyred.

They were they died together.

The story.

You know where the stands were from originally.

They were from.

Pretty sure they were from.

Pennsylvania, that's what I think.

That's a it's amazing that you said that because This that is obviously an old family name

right in this town that I'm in now Carlisle, Pennsylvania.

Because there is several businesses with that name STAMM, right?

I'm not sure that the exact spelling but I do know the daughter who survived.

Mm -hmm.

I would be very Interested to find out if they were from this very area where this was a several

businesses named STAMM including an excellent fried chicken Restaurant.

I've got to go in there and find out.

Well, my point of bringing up that book is I gave that small book.

You can anyone can find the life of John and Betty Stan easily.

Only.

It's a small book and I gave it to this.

So ministered to him to see their love and their sacrifice.

Turned his whole Christian life around

much more serious -minded and he became a reader and a lover of good.

Hmm.

We're going to a break right now.

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your book recommendations.

Pastor Mac one of the last callers It was a

David I believe was asking about should he stick With reformed

books and you said that that reform people should you know reach out and and

really start?

Investigating the lives of great men who are authors who are not reformed but for the newer Christian

don't you think it might be wiser for the newer Christian to perhaps stick with the reformed writers?

I do

think that I

think they can read

biographies of Non -reformed Christian

I could name others, but as far

as I think it is if

you're reading books,

it's plausible.

Well.

Regard.

Let me.

I'm sorry to interrupt.

That's all right.

I always say one of the greatest

books in doctrine of what

salvation life in the book Christian

life a Doctrinal

is.

Oh, yeah.

Mm -hmm.

We have taken

a single most

important way That any Christian

will get grounded in

a man.

Inspect.

Sinclair Ferguson is one of my favorite preachers.

I've seen him preach Probably ten times at least he used to come out To

Long Island, New York in my early years of Christianity in the 80s and 90s

When he used to actually fly out from Scotland at that point and then he

Not long ago preached at Grace Baptist Church in Carlisle, and I would recommend everything that he has written.

I can't even think of a book that he has written that would not be worthy of promoting and

Cumberland Valley Bible Book Service desk definitely has that book because banner of truth is

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for the recommendation.

And.

Well, I think it would probably be good to continue Promoting some of

the best authors that you cling to.

In fact if you want to we could go through the different denominations or theological

backgrounds in Categories like for instance, why don't we go through some of your favorite Baptist authors?

And then we could go perhaps to Presbyterian and Anglican because those seem to be the three

greatest sources of Calvinistic literature anyway.

Yes.

Well, it's at this point that I would already or

there these are and I

found that they're the most edifying.

The most biblical the most helpful.

I want to talk about.

Groups.

Authors and then particular books.

You mentioned Baptist.

You know John Popper.

Very reformed Christians

don't may not.

Fully agree with some of his views.

I.

Understand that completely.

It's more like his decisions rather than his views.

Well, my point is some of his books.

That he's

written in

the pebble.

Mm -hmm the bad distance.

Yeah, da

Carson.

Mm -hmm in the

world.

Mm -hmm, his books are simply incredibly helpful.

Yeah, I've interviewed him go.

You go back in history.

Some of the better Baptist drew fuller.

Historic Baptist read JP Boyce.

Mm -hmm.

Boyce is abstract and systematic.

The all single volume system.

Mm -hmm, of course.

The well -known go

back

before credible author.

Those and.

I'm sure that you wouldn't disagree if I were to plug a Man who's written about

a number of the men that you listed that would be Tom Nettles.

Dr Tom Nettles who is a Baptist historian and has written about Some of those

folks.

In fact, he wrote a biography of J. Pettigrew Boyce.

And.

We also have Michael Haken who has been on this program as well a number of times who's a Baptist

historian and author.

Yes, well both of those men are Two of the

best contained

in recent years.

Living by revealed truth.

Yes.

Life pastoral theology of church.

Yes.

So that's a phenomenal

moving on to other categories.

Even though I'm a Baptist I had probably Benefited more from pretty other

category.

Going back to

earliest by the 18th

century and then into the 19th

century.

Preacher around Virginia kind of like a as a circuit

riding evangelist for revival in Virginia,

but after archbishop warfield.

And.

Theologically on America and on the world and by

the way, there is a marvelous two -volume history of Princeton Seminary.

By.

David Calhoun, it not only shows the glory of

three and other

prints others.

Back.

Yeah, I wouldn't.

Any Christian who's not read it and wants to understand?

Son and the Holy Spirit redemption

was a book.

Is.

Immensely helpful.

Yeah, especially for those who were struggling understanding limited atonement or definite atonement or particular redemption.

Yes, very good a.

Contemporary of Murray a little older than him was Jay Gresham.

H apologist.

He though he died in 1930.

He was one of the big on with Lloyd Jones and when

it was

gaining inroads Schaefer were the three leading

Voices favorites.

Yeah, in fact, he was so much one of my favorites I named my last son after

him Richard Machen Tomlinson.

Wow.

And then my most.

Hands down as Sinclair Ferguson.

Mm -hmm.

He

is and though he's a brilliant

right down where anyone can get it.

So he has many good books and I recommend them all.

Yeah, in fact, I want to quickly plug a CD series

That you could get from Grace Reform Baptist Church of Long Island they

They transferred the old cassette tapes of Sinclair Ferguson's preaching from the

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So I just wanted to plug them especially since they have that great resource there.

And.

Also, I don't know if have you ever read my friend Fred Zaspa's biography of BB Warfield.

I Have not but I've heard about it.

Yeah, so I'd like to plug that as well.

In fact, I'll have to have Fred get you a copy of that.

Well, let me take some time here to mention a few Anglican authors.

Mm -hmm.

My my favorite.

Mm -hmm.

He's one of my favorite authors.

Three that seems

to be

cool and Of course during that ministry in Liverpool He did not pastor and

then I think he had over 80 churches under his.

It's one of the best Writers any Christian could read.

His book on holiness is probably the

best geographies and

Ian Murray Recently available

with Benny wonderful smaller biography on

JC Raul.

Call prepare.

I have

that I just got it recently in the bookstore at my own church.

Of course another Anglican a man who

there?

Mm -hmm, you know

when God RDS God's

words, it's a

very Valuable even for a brand -new Christian to read.

I could go on now if you want me to.

In books.

Oh, yeah, definitely, but just quickly though.

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But I'm sorry pastor Mac.

Go ahead.

That's fine.

Well at this point.

Available.

I just want to mention some of my favorite

authors.

John Bunyan.

Jerry bridges passed away

and any book by

Jerry bridges is really wonderful.

Jonathan Edwards, of course in the 18th century.

Theological right sometimes hard to understand but he's very helpful in some

areas pick beyond the nature of true revival

work of the Holy Spirit

religious of Jonathan Edwards is in

his sermons as in useful.

Martin Lloyd -jones may be one of my top to the 20th

century London pastor.

Any books, but I tell young preachers read everything you can by Lloyd -jones.

And he he has helped

me new Lloyd -jones is

Ian Murray.

Because most of

them

are

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Forgotten Spur the battle

forgot a recent small wonderful biography on Amy

Carmichael called beauty beauty for ashes and.

What encouraged me about Ian Murray writing this book is

Amy Carmichael.

She died there.

She was buried there.

She was from Northern Ireland.

But she was not reformed.

She was not fully Calvinistic but Ian Murray Having the heart and

the right broad perspective that he always has.

He saw the beauty so

he saw the value

not only of her ministry, but of actually writing a biography on her Very very

much worth about a hundred and Seventy

pages very easy to read.

He wrote a biography on John Murray.

The he's also written two collections of

Biographies one is called heroes.

Lastly three collections of biographies one is

called hero book heroes.

There are seven biographies.

That mr. Murray story

that I didn't

not know until I read it.

Two men in an island

in historic missions

and.

Then.

Charles Colcott southern

plantation owner.

Who became a Christian and he became a missionary?

To blacks.

Among the.

Slaves in Georgia in the Carolinas and got God poured out a great revival

among them.

He loved them.

There's a small biography and he and Murray's book heroes.

I.

Would also heritage

Which is a collect

final one.

I'll mention by mr. Murray as far as biographies

Wesleyan Ian Murray

appreciation even

for John Wesley and

Shows that the other Methodist and how God really used them and of

course condone West

Arminian ism.

But they were good things and

there are other very valuable books by mr. Murray.

A more recent one is a evangelical holiness

very very helpful.

Chapter one talks about what is

the bill in the 19th and 20th

century?

The book is worth the price of the

books

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I mentioned Amy Carmichael.

She wrote many books.

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the top all of them.

Yeah, we actually have to pause for a very last break.

But yeah, I just wanted to say something about that very quickly.

You mentioned a book by Ian Murray about a pastor who had an outreach to the

The the slaves in Georgia.

Was it.

It's actually his book heroes.

Okay, and that man was John Colcott Joe

six in the story.

Okay, his work in the South.

Did you say his nickname was cold cut like at a deli?

No.

The only reason that it just immediately sparked into my mind another book that Mike Adosh publishes.

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The Christlike life and ministry of brother Brian of Birmingham, Alabama.

And.

That is a book that Mike Adosh has brought back into print about James Alexander.

Brian who.

There's a.

Homeless shelter down there that Mike ministers at that is named after him and he was a

white pastor down there that had an enormous outreach to the black community there

and also to some of those that would be considered untouchable members of society like

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Welcome back.

This is Chris Ornstein.

And if you just tuned us in for the last 90 minutes in the next half hour or so to go.

We have been interviewing today pastor Mac Tomlinson of Providence Chapel

and Denton, Texas.

We're also been promoting his fellowship conference, New England August 4th through the 6th in

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Before the break you were just about to go into another category of literature.

So I'd like you to do that now.

Well mentioned

any Christians

these Authors are the most

any book you can get by them will be good and edifying and trustworthy.

Everything by a W tozer is Edifying

everything by Ian

Murray as I've said Ian bounds in 19th century is a

chaplain in some

of his

state bridging

Faith cook and she has written a number

of wonderful biographies one

children and Then she's written several other

onion all of her book

ladies and would especially Enjoy her books,

but they're very and she's an ex

Steve

Lawson.

He's a temporary Baptist.

Yeah, in fact, he just he just wrote a

Book on Martin Lloyd -Jones.

So that's kind of killing two birds with one stone there.

Yeah, well, he's written recently some smaller biographies

reading.

Let me mention up just a greatly over the

years.

One of the earliest ones the summer my wife and I got married in 1978.

That summer I read that was

like a water.

It taught me that the summer on that was not really her but

Martin Lloyd -Jones destroyed that

Concept and

he he showed me

kingdom life.

In fact, I think

could not recommend.

More.

Lloyd -jones book valid

or a

valuable published in Hannibal, Missouri.

Uniqueness of their reprinting

that book.

Depression.

The actual sleep in the back of the

book.

What are its causes?

What

are

the

moving on?

Yes.

Yes.

I think he read it a

hundred times.

It's just the value of the Christian life that that is beyond

description sleep just a

picture of Conversion

and living

the

Christian

life.

True nature of Genuine Christian extent.

How God works with all you

wonder.

Go ahead.

I was just gonna say while you were thinking since you mentioned the late Ernie Riesinger.

There is a wonderful Biography of him.

I'm sure you are aware of that Jeff Thomas from Wales wrote and which

was published by banner of truth and.

That's another great book to get a hold of.

Really wonderful a joyful man.

Only.

Calvinistic I think every day of his Christian life.

He was.

Speaking to someone individually.

Did you know that he founded the church that I'm a member of now?

Yes, I did know that.

In fact, let me tell you a story about Ernie Rossinger.

I Went to Cape Coral, Florida all

of 19 1997.

And.

I spent a week with him one day.

We went out one morning we stopped at his cleaners that he used

take clothes to be laundered and it was owned by a Chinese

couple and When we walked in there This couple they just started

being because he had been so kind to them.

And so he had shared Christ with him

many times and while we were in there He took another 36 if

they had read what he had given them He spoke to them about the

Lord.

That's the way he lives so.

Ernie Rossinger's biography by Jeffrey Thomas.

Book is

yes.

Well, by the way when you were having that stroll with him was that in Florida or here in Carlisle?

No, it was in Cape Coral, Florida.

Right, right.

There's another.

Well, it is a small paperback.

That is one

of

the

best of P you

are what God

did in three books by

oh, yeah, or Alexander Strzok

Biblical eldership.

Mm -hmm is probably the best book.

I know on that subject.

Yeah.

They publish his own church publishes that book and they shipped me a copy for every single

pastor that came to my most recent Pastors luncheon.

Well, it's a wonderful book for pastors or churches that are looking to

model to having an Eldership.

Two other books.

He wrote love or die.

It's a wonderful book about

the hospitality

commands.

It's a book on biblical hospitality and

two good books on place.

You are DM

Mac of

all time on

prayer.

Another book.

It's very valuable on the work of the

whole biblical.

Undershows what is Joe's to what

is not genuine best

book on the theology of the whole a

few others and all.

Then I'll be quiet.

The biographies of Robert

Murray.

Better than I can even describe it.

The

autobiography of John G Payton

PA to in Mm -hmm that's published by the banner of truth.

John G. Payton was a 19th century.

He took the gospel to the cannibals for 30 years and they never got him.

He lived ministered there 30 years saw revival.

He's came back.

He buried his wife there.

He came back and he was buried in Scotland, but the autobiography of John G. Payton.

It's like reading a true Adventure.

I'm a page -turner.

It's the life of Jim Elliott

his wife.

One of my favorite.

HOU GH to win.

Now there's another good one

Frank Houghton.

His book is better.

We a marvelous book.

One final one several years ago

our

a ITK EN.

That biography on John Newton.

I cannot say how

good it is.

And here's some when we read

the biographies and

they show us that we're not the only ones.

It's a severe depression.

He was also.

He lost

three wives and Children, so he

suffered great loss when you read these lives.

You see that others have stuff be faithful

to ordinary people and that God

is still at work.

Amen.

Well, you know, I'd like you in the remaining Four minutes to just

unburden your heart and Leave our listeners with what you most want etched in their hearts and minds before

they leave this broadcast today.

Start about a little courage about

reading

ended reading list.

Don't be intimidated.

Read a small book.

If I could start my from 40 years if I got

would read more systematically.

Hurry.

Mm -hmm.

Get to a book.

I would also read more

discernment and be careful.

Let one book very good

books because they were all they will always do and it probably be a good idea to.

Have at least a small bookshelf in your bathroom.

And.

It's really been a Real blessing for me today because not only did you

Introduce me to some new things that I wasn't aware of but you've lit the

fire under me to return to some of the authors who I've read but to read Other works

by them or even revisit some of the the great works that I have already read, but it has been a

long time.

And.

Pastor Mac.

I know it's just for me.

It's always a joy to have you back and I look forward to you to continue returning to iron sharpens

iron.

I wanted to make sure There are listeners have your church website.

It's Providence Denton.

Org.

Providence Denton org the New England Conference Fellowship Conference,

New England Website that you are participating in that conference August 4th through the 6th

in Portland, Maine.

That website is Fellowship Conference New England comm.

Fellowship Conference New England comm and I know that you Announced just

before you have a specific website for the Conrad.

Murrell book.

Pastor Mac.

Yes.

Yes, it's Conrad Murrell and that's spelt M

as in.

Michael you are Rell .com.

Conrad of course is C o n r a d m u r r e l l com and of course

You also have written the biography of Leonard Ravenhill in light of eternity and.

I.

Want to repeat the fact that The vast majority of the books that we mentioned

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Tomlinson is fully aware is a great wealth of treasures from the

past and present For you to get a hold of and that website is solid dash

ground dash books comm.

Solid dash ground dash books comm let me just make you aware of a couple of

wonderful upcoming Interviews that we have scheduled here.

Jason Wallace of Christ Orthodox Presbyterian Church is Going to be here

Friday to a further have a further discussion on the video that he

produced on Mormonism, it's a documentary exposing the Lies and

heresies of Mormonism and that video you can watch free of charge at LDS

video LDS video and Todd Friel

of Wretched TV and wretched radio.

He's gonna be on August 15th to discuss his new book stressed out.

So I hope that you join us for that as well.

In fact, that's a book that I definitely to get a hold of.

Because that is definitely a problem in my life getting stressed out far too easily.

Well, thank you Pastor Mac Tomlinson and Thank you for everybody who listened.

Especially those who wrote in and I hope you always remember for the rest of your lives that Jesus Christ is a far greater

Savior than you are a sinner.

God bless.