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The following program is recorded content created by The Truth Network. It's Matt Slick Live!

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Matt is the founder and president of the Christian Apologetics Research Ministry, found online at karm .org.

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When you have questions about Bible doctrines, turn to Matt Slick Live for answers. Taking your calls and responding to your questions at 877 -207 -2276.

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Here's Matt Slick. Hi everybody, welcome to the show, it's me Matt Slick, you're listening to Matt Slick Live and if you want to give me a call, all you have to do is dial 877 -207 -2276.

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You can also give me an email and that is easy to do, just info at karm .org,

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info at karm, C -A -R -M dot O -R -G. I'm going to ask a favor of people because I'm going to do an experiment here.

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SEO is search engine optimization stuff and I keep pretty good records on CARM and I have been doing it since 2009.

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So I do a daily count, I do one of page views of new visitors, returning visitors and that's how

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I know that we've had 162 million visitors. What I've noticed lately is that the site's traffic is going down and I've heard other ministries say similar things.

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So it's a noticeable decrease, so what I'm asking here is just an experiment.

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Fridays are pretty much typically slow days for the internet, that's okay, that's what it is.

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Tuesdays and Wednesdays are usually pretty busy. So what I'm asking is if you could go to the CARM website and just click on it once, one article, whatever, just to go because it will show up after midnight all the counts come in and then

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I can check and I can compare it to the previous Fridays to see if there's any difference.

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I'm just curious, it's just off the top of my head kind of a thing to do. So all you have to do is go to carm .org

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and click on a page. I'm not saying click on one page 18 times but just kind of click, see what the traffic is and that.

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That's one thing. Also, if you want to watch the show and participate with wonderful people, usually wonderful people, in the chat room, we send most of our stuff out on Rumble and Rumble is equivalent to YouTube.

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Of course, YouTube is the mammoth but YouTube is liberal and I got to be careful what

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I say on the radio about COVID and the Biden crime family and things like that because I can get disciplined.

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They say, oh, sorry, you gave misinformation. Like if I say, here's a test, like masks, the standard masks that you wear, that they have if they're worn properly are 50 to 60 % effective.

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Cloth masks, just pure cloth are 3 % effective. These are just facts.

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Now, I've said those things before and within two or three days, I'm banned for just repeating a fact.

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So we're going to see if it's going to happen. That happens on YouTube but it doesn't happen on Rumble which is why we're going to Rumble more and more.

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We simulcast to two YouTube channels and also to Rumble.

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So like I was saying again, if you want to just help me out with a little test for traffic, just asking you, the listeners, to go to my website, karm .org,

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just click on it once. That's all you got to do. Just go, yep, in there. Okay, now do important stuff. And I'll be able to tell how the traffic is and if the radio listening audience that I've asked makes any noticeable difference in the traffic.

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I'm just curious. That's all it is. Not a big deal. All right, now we have a caller kind of in limbo so I'm not sure what's happening with that.

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There we go. So okay, so that's working, right? Everything's working.

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Good, good, good. And as soon as he's activated, we'll get to him.

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And then what I'll probably end up doing is a little bit of hate mail and a little bit of wacko mail.

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Like I said, we've got some new wacko mail coming in. So we'll see how it works. Okay, so, and I'm waiting for that.

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But like I said, if you want to email me, you can, if you have a comment or a question for the radio show, just go to your email and direct it to info at karm .org.

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Info at karm .org, put in subject line, radio comment, radio question. We can get to it.

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See? And look, I can see, like Jim, he put in radio question, but he put it in at 914 this morning.

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So let's see. Question about your tech. Huh. Okay. Okay.

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Anyway, let's get to Luke from Washington, D .C. Luke, welcome. You're on the air. Hi, Matt.

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How are you? I'm all right. Hanging in there. So what do you got, man? Have you heard about the recent news about a radio programmer,

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KP O 'Hannan? Who? He's an

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Indian guy. He is a president of GFA, Gospel for Asia.

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Oh, okay. A large non -profit mission organization with a focus on India and Asia. He's also the founding metropolitan bishop of the

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Believers Eastern Church. And he graduated from theological seminary in Dallas in 1976.

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And he was a Baptist minister. And he has a lot of title now.

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And anyway, he died on 8th May on a car accident in Dallas, Texas. I don't know who he is.

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I haven't heard of him. He was just like you. He was a Bible answering man, you know, in the

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U .S. in Washington, D .C. He changed his name. Now he's in Eastern Orthodox.

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He started a new church, Eastern Orthodox Church in India. And he changed his name,

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Athanasius Johann I. And he authored over 200 books on Christian living and missions.

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Do you have a question at all? Yeah. My question is, he took a lot of money.

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He has a fraud, money from the U .S. It's a great church. I don't know the great church.

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They're sending hundreds of thousands of, you know, last 17 years, hundreds of thousands of dollars to India.

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He sent some pictures of poor people. Do you have a question though? Yeah, question.

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What do you think about this kind of people or this kind of missionaries? Actually, he's not a missionary.

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He's a Baptist preacher, Baptist radio Bible answering man. And then he changed. Okay, so I think it's good what they're doing.

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You know, we want more missionaries out there and make money so they can get radio going. I wish we had a lot more money so we could do a lot more on CARM.

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Praise God that he did that. Unfortunately, he died and he's with the Lord now. So there you go.

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No, no, no, no, no, no. He changed. Now he become Eastern Orthodox Bishop.

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Like Hanegraaff. You know the Hanegraaff. What is his name? Hanegraaff. He became Eastern Orthodox.

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Hanegraaff. Yeah, that would tell me that he was not a Christian. Yes. Yeah, same like this guy.

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He was same. He was a Baptist priest. And then he become Eastern Orthodox and he become as a bishop.

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Hanegraaff not become a bishop. This guy, even though he's married, he can become a bishop in that church because he started the church.

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He's the first bishop of that church in India. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.

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Okay. You're just giving me a bunch of information like it's a biography. But, you know,

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I just wanted a question and got that question. So now is this the guy

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Gospel for Asia? Right. Is that him? Yes. Gospel for Asia. Yes. Yeah. He died.

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I'm reading it says died of a cardiac arrest at the age of 74. That's what it says in a hospital in Dallas, Texas.

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So, you know, whatever. But I'm looking at it. No, no, no. Cardiac arrest.

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He has a car accident. And then during the car accident and the emergency surgery, emergency surgery, he can have cardiac arrest.

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That's happened. Okay. All right. So if he went into the

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Eastern Orthodox Church, then I certainly would doubt his salvation. Absolutely. Okay.

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Can't say for sure, you know, but. Okay. So unfortunately, that's what

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I would have to say about that. Okay. Okay. Can you research about him? And then

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I will ask question next time. And okay. Gospel for Asia. How much money he cheated on Canada, America, so many countries.

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He has so many. You mean he cheated? Yeah. Oh, yeah.

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I don't know. You know, I don't need to research him because I have so many other things

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I'm working on right now. And I'm just trying to get some projects going. So a research like that would mean stopping everything else.

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But I'm reading an article about him right now. And, you know, it's just on Christian post dot com.

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So, you know, there you go. I hope he's with the Lord. Hope he was

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Christian. But if he embezzled and robbed people, I don't know. I mean, you're saying it, but I don't know if that's true or not.

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Okay. So I don't know. So you need to write an article about him. Just research about because this is so many.

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America, you know, he's the number one fraud, just like a Kenneth Copeland.

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You know, Kenneth Copeland, all those people in the area. Okay. Yeah. It's just look.

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People want me to. I have over 850 articles I'm supposed to write. That's not even including individuals

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I'm supposed to research. I have 850 questions waiting for me. 850, maybe 843.

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I don't know. But I have over 100 people I'm supposed to analyze. And right now,

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I'm basically the only one writing for CARM. And so I just don't have a lot of time. Plus, I have to do video work.

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I have to establish a video presence. I have to figure out how to get all my video work to be for phone size on different medias.

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And I'm trying. So it takes a lot of energy. And when everybody else goes home and are done at five o 'clock,

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I don't quit till nine. So I've just already got a lot going. And if I get to him,

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I get to him. If I don't, I don't. Okay. Okay. I'm just saying he has a lot of controversies about income tax rate, court rulings in India, and lawsuits in America, US federal lawsuits.

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Yeah, he's a fraud lawsuit. Look, I got you. Look, I got it. I got it. Look, I got it. Okay. Okay.

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I got what you're saying. But I just don't have time right now. Okay. All right. So appreciate the call, though.

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Okay. All right. Thank you. All right. Talk to you later. Okay. Let's get to Elijah from Philly.

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Elijah, welcome. You're on the air. Hello. Hello. How are you?

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Hey, man. How are you doing today? Hanging in there. Yep. Hanging in there.

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So what do you got, man? Good. Good. Yeah. I got a question because I was watching a debate recently on, about, you know, how to judge

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James 2 and talking about, you know, faith alone versus faith plus works. And this was brought up by the person who believes in faith alone.

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He brought up the Great White Throne Judgment. He brought up that in Revelation 20, people are damned not because of what's written in the

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Book of Deeds about, you know, there are good deeds and bad deeds, but they're damned on what's not found in the

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Book of Life. And I thought that was interesting and I thought that was a good point. So what's your thoughts on that?

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So the Book of Life is in Revelation 20, and I saw the dead, the great and small, standing before the throne and books were opened and another book was opened, which is the

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Book of Life and the dead were judged from the things which were written in the books according to their deeds.

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Okay. Now, there's a break, so hold on and we'll get back, hopefully, and we'll talk about that and see if we can figure it out, okay?

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So hey, folks, if you want to give me a call, all you have to do is dial 877 -207 -2276.

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We'll be right back. It's Matt Slick Live!

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Taking your calls at 877 -207 -2276. Here's Matt Slick.

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All right, everybody, welcome back to the show. Let's get back on with Elijah. All right, so you want to know about the

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Book of Life, right? I wanted to know what are your thoughts on the guy's argument, who had to face a law physician in that debate who said that he believes that Revelation 2012 teaches that we're judged by whether or not we're found in the

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Book of Life and not what our good deeds and bad deeds were that were written down in the other books.

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But as the break was going, I started to reread that verse, and it says in the dead we're judged according to their works by what was written in the books.

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And so I began to think, you know, what if a faith -plus -works person brought up this argument that this verse seems to be teaching that since they're judged according to their works by what is written in the books, they would probably say that this is teaching that you're going to be judged on faith and works -based, you know, righteousness.

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So how would you respond to that? Well, you had a lot of stuff there. You know, faith alone is the biblical position, that we're justified by faith alone.

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And a lot of false religious systems want to add our works, and so the kind of verses like this and other verses, what they'll say is that we're judged by our works.

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Well, yeah, we are judged by our works, but not for salvation, because the Bible teaches contrary to that.

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And so they forget the differentiation between justification and sanctification.

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Justification is the instantaneous, permanent, legal work of God where He declares the sinner righteous, and this is concomitant with being saved and forgiven.

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And so when it talks about people, you know, they're judged from the things written in these books according to their deeds, of course they're going to be judged.

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We Christians are going to be judged by our works, and the unbelievers are going to be judged by their works. We Christians are going to be judged in heaven.

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They're going to be judged in hell. And so the works are related to where we are and what we are, but they do not get us salvation or they keep us saved.

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And if that clears up the issue, I'm not quite sure yet. So is that close or what?

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Yeah, yeah, that does help. I'm trying to think, because I did have another question.

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So this debate, let me ask you. Who was the debate between? I'm just curious if you remember.

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If you don't, that's okay. Yeah, I've got it in my watch history. Oh, I'm scrolling.

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Okay, I found it. It was on Standing for Truth. It was between Bob Wolkin and Sean Griffin.

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It was the James 2 debate. Yeah, I've debated

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Sean Griffin. Yeah, James 2 debate. It's easy.

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It's easy. James 2 is an easy section of Scripture to go through. What they want to do is say, well, what the opposing side does is they ignore the context and just say that we're justified by our faith in our works.

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And it's a foolish arrogance. It's pride. It's foolishness, because it's saying that God is going to look at how good we were and combine that with our faith in Christ, and then that'll get us saved.

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And that's saying that the work of Christ was not sufficient in and of itself to save us. And that faith that God grants to us is not enough.

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And so it's a problem. And those who teach that, I cannot consider brothers in Christ.

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Okay? So Sean Griffin's out. Yep. Okay. I did have another question.

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Sure. I'm trying to think. So in the

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Old Testament, because there's this other guy that comes on Standing for Truth from time to time to debate.

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His name is, I think it's David Preston.

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Have you heard of him yet? No. David Preston. I don't know. I may have even debated him.

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I'm on Standing for Truth every now and then doing debates. So I've debated so many people in so many different venues.

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I can't remember all their names, but at any rate, go ahead. Yeah. So David Preston, he believes in faith alone as well.

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But if I remember correctly, I believe he said that he's a hyper dispensationalist. So he does believe in faith alone, but he believes that under the

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Mosaic Law, before Jesus died and rose again, he believed that people had to do faith and works under the

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Mosaic Law in order to be saved. He believed that after the resurrection, then the faith alone thing was instituted.

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And he also has several debates on that channel where he argues that he believes the

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Epistle of James was written mainly for the 144 ,000

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Jews who will be living during the Tribulation. And he believes that the reason why he believes that it teaches faith and works in James is because he believes that the

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Mosaic Law requires faith and works in order to be saved. And so he believes that James is for the

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Jews during the Tribulation and all that stuff. And I think he I think the reason why he believes that is because I think it's like the very first few verses of James.

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I think he said that it was written to the twelve tribes. Yeah, the twelve tribes, as is

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Peter, is written to the scattered Jews. But both of them.

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So. So, yeah, I would I would disagree with him wholeheartedly.

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We're justified by faith. And it says enrollment in the Genesis fifteen nine before the law was there.

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Fifteen six, actually, it says. In fact, I'll read it to you. It's what Genesis of fifteen six says.

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And then he that's Abraham believed in the Lord and he that's God reckoned it to him as righteousness.

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So it's right there. And Paul quotes that in Romans four, three, and it is the teaching that ultimately justification is by faith alone.

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The works and the law that were in the Old Testament were to point to Christ. The law is a taskmaster that leads us to Christ.

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That's Galatians three, twenty four. And what that means is the law is a tutor, a guide that shows us that we have to be saved by grace.

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If we could be saved by faith and law, then we have when we go to Galatians two.

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Let's see. Sixteen. Yes. By the works of the law, no flesh will be justified.

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And in two twenty one, I do not nullify the grace of God for righteousness comes through the law.

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Then Christ died needlessly. So what Paul is saying is that it's just it's either law or grace.

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That's it. It's law or faith. OK, because grace and faith go together. So that's all it is.

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He doesn't combine them. He does not combine them. So what this guy is doing is combining them in the

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Old Testament. And that's a false teaching. He's wrong. Yeah.

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Yeah. And James is not just written to the twelve tribes because he wants to say that.

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And that's interesting. If he wants to say that to the twelve tribes dispersed in greetings and things like that.

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OK, does that mean it's not doesn't apply to us? Because it says in First Peter, he writes to those who reside as aliens scattered in various areas.

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He's talking about the Jews and he quotes a lot of Old Testament stuff. So it's also written to the

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Jews more specifically with a mixture of the Gentiles. So he doesn't. He's wrong.

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OK. All right, man. All right. Good to go. All right, man. God bless. Talk to you later. Hey, folks.

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Want to give me a call? Eight seven seven two zero seven two two seven six. We have nobody waiting.

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Give me a call. It's Matt Slick live.

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All right. Welcome back to the show. If you want to give me a call, we have wide open lines. Eight seven seven two zero seven two two seven six.

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So it's a nice Friday. I think I'm gonna do is get to some e -mails. Let's try this one.

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Love your ministry. Following you for many years from here in Scotland. That's cool. My daughter just went to Scotland and I'm gonna go visit sometime.

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She's going to be moving there and staying there for quite a while. Anyway, really trust your discernment. OK. If a born again

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Christian man gets married to a born again woman after both were divorced and are not divorced biblically, what do you do? What do you do is confess their failure and their sin before the

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Lord and just lay before God and that's it. It just just just be married because they've already made a promise to each other and let the past be the past, let the blood of Christ cleanse it, move forward, stay married, be faithful.

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And that's it. That's what I would say. So both have both have repented of their sin of remarrying without a biblical justification, but they are faithful to each other and want to stay married.

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They should. Yep. But can they or are they perpetual adulterous and married? No, I would say no, because even though they did this, man gets married, both were divorced and were not divorced biblically.

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So were they unbelievers at that time? If they were unbelievers at the time, even more so the blood of Christ cleanses it.

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If they were believers, it's really a very serious issue and they really have sinned.

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But I would say that at this point, God has by going to the cross, the

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Lord Jesus will cleanse. It's done. And just leave it alone and go forward.

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This reminds me, you know, we had a discussion in a seminary and there was a mission context or missionary from someplace or we had those or it was just a discussion about it.

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I don't remember, but we had this discussion. There were real situations where there would be tribes where the men practiced polygamy and then vandals go in and people get, they get saved and say a man and his and say he has four wives, they'll get saved.

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Should he then divorce all of them except for one of them? And the answer was no, just stay married and just don't take any more wives and don't replace any wives that that situation, just stay married.

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And I thought it was wise, you know, this is, it's not an exactly easy thing to, to assert, which is the right position, but I have a saying

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I've tried to live by on situations like this and it's, I'd rather err on the side of grace than law on debatable issues.

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I've got to be gracious about it than hyper legalistic about it. So that's my position.

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And there you go. All right. Let's try this. Amen. Here's a question for the radio.

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Is it possible that God will change his mind from the eternal perspective? He never changes his mind because all things are understood, decreed by God since he knows himself exhaustively in all situations and he brought into existence a particular set of actualities that he has decided.

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He knows what he's decided, but on the human level, God changes his mind. And this called an apopomorphism written on this and talked about it.

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So there you go. That does get it. It does can happen. Wow. That's pretty good. Oh man.

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I'm supposed to know what I'm talking about when I talk in English. All right. Let's see. Um, I hope you're having a great week.

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Just a friendly reminder about the, uh, we're excited. Okay. Um, yeah, let's just do this.

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Delete that. Okay. I'm going to look into that, uh, the wacko meal.

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Let's see. I thought I had a new wacko meal. So this came in this week.

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Here we go. I only read like the first like 10 words went, Oh, wacko meal.

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So I haven't read all of it. So here it goes. Uh, and so on the 41st day, having withstood all of Satan's testing in the desert,

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Jesus has turned water into wine. The essential forbidding for forbidden.

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Oh, I remember I read the other stuff anyway. The forbidden fruit giving father

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Satan, all he wanted, all he wanted, the wine sacrament of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil in the midst of the garden of Eden, the high priest of Jerusalem, Melchizedek's offering of bread and wine to Abraham after his having defeated at the local

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Kings, all the local Kings, sorry. The tree of knowledge of good and evil, also known as the karma wheel.

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So he goes on, he says, all roads lead to Satan on the karma wheel, except one

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Genesis one 29 karma wheel is also known as a tree of doubts. Oh my goodness.

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Wine is euphemistic for hypocrisy. The best example, Judas turned water into hypocrisy.

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You know, for most people, this is a waste of time for me.

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It's entertainment for me. I like it. I don't know. There's something wrong with me. I know.

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Let's see. Dead animal on the plate as a sure sign of no talent in the kitchen.

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Let me read that one again. Dead animal on the plate is a sure sign of no talent in the kitchen.

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What is the animal supposed to be alive? What? You know, if I put a ribeye cooked ribeye, does that mean

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I have no talent? My wife goes, Ooh, that's good. There's some talent there.

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You know, dead animal on the plate is a sure sign of no talent in the kitchen.

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Woo hoo. That's it. That was worth it. That was worth the wait for me. That was good. Let's see another one. Dead people on the altar is a sure sign of no soul in the temple.

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Oh my goodness. As we would like to say in theological circles, he does not have all his paws in the litter box.

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Let's try another one in the wacko. Well, technically I'm a Taoist since age three, but I just need to know how to avoid making up my own faith.

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That's awesome. Hey, I need some advice. Okay. What do you want?

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Uh, how do I avoid making up my own religion? Don't make anything up.

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Oh, why didn't I think of that? You know, you know, if you're making something up, okay, that's, that's how it is, you know?

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So if he doesn't know, am I making this up or not? I need to know how not, I didn't know how to avoid making up my own faith.

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Don't you know, when you make up something up, this is a no brainer for me. Okay. Let me go on.

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Let's see. If I founded my own religion, then it would resemble Buddhism.

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On a note, the Buddhist belief in impermanence resembles something from the book of Ecclesiastes as into every day there's a season.

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Okay. Uh, correct me if I'm wrong. You're wrong. Okay. There you go. Yeah. See, it was easy.

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You're wrong. See, correct me if I'm wrong. You're wrong. Okay. Uh, how about this one? I know

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I promised not to bug you, but my last email was anything but pleasant.

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Okay. And I just want to get along and coexist since not everyone's a

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Christian. Different people have different needs, hence the world religions. We cannot homogenize everyone.

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Now. Okay. Okay. I'm waiting for a question or something here that is good. It's just making statements like they're fortune cookie statements, you know.

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Now, remember that unconditional love is a double edged sword. Oh, it is? I didn't know that. Uh, not only would it give, it can also take away if you feel otherwise fine.

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But God doesn't judge. Okay. You know, I need another, uh, saying besides he doesn't have all his paws in a litter box.

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Like, uh, his duct tape doesn't stick. That might be good. I don't know. Duct tape.

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His ratchet doesn't, uh, turn, you know, I don't know, you know, maybe you guys could give me some.

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All right. Let's try this. Let's try Thomas from Kentucky. Hey, Thomas, welcome. You are on the air.

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Welcome, Matt. Nice to speak with you. Okay. In the new Testament, the verb repent means to change your purposes to a resolve to do

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God's will. That noun means changed purposes to a resolve to do

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God's will. If you could speak, you know, mainly on repentance. That's what

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I'm looking for right here is what is repentance? Maybe that the audience could grasp it, know it a little bit better, because I think there's a lot of confusion going on with the word repentance.

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What it means, how it affects our salvation, how it might affect our grace is repentance necessary for salvation.

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Is it a work? Is it not? Well, let's jump in.

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Repentance is from the Greek word metanoia or metanoia, okay? And metanoia here, metanoia, and it means a change of mind from evil because meta change and not us mind change of mind, an attitudinal, purposeful change of mind away from that which is bad towards what is good.

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That's what it means at the basic level. We got a break. So hold on. We'll be right back, folks. After these messages, please stay tuned.

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Let's get back on with Thomas from Kentucky. Thomas, are you there? Yes. Matt.

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Thanks again. In the New Testament, the verb repent and the noun repent.

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No. We're not. The question is your repentance to the now would be repentance and a

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Tony it. I believe. Yeah. Meta. Metanoia is met.

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Repentance. Metanoia. Metanoia. Metano is the verb. And it deals with two

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Greek words, meta change and not us mind the change of mind.

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Now you asked, is it necessary for salvation? Yes and no. Repentance ultimately is changing your mind in compliance with the law.

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So if the law says don't lie and you're lying, then you repent of your lying.

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You're complying with the law. It is not compliant with the law or our repentance that gets us salvation.

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But repentance is part of being saved because repentance works because God grants that we have repentance.

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Second Timothy two twenty five. Just like he grants we have faith with page one twenty nine. So repentance is part of salvation in that we do turn from our sin and we should.

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But it's not the turning from sin that saves us. It's faith in Christ that saves us. OK. OK. So if people fall back into sin, are they repentant or are they unrepentant?

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Well, it depends. You can have different different kinds of of sin that people can get into degrees.

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You can have someone who has a problem with a certain sin and has fallen into it periodically through his whole life and he continues to fight it.

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Well, he's repentant as much as he can be. And he fails. It doesn't mean he's not saved.

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Then you have the kind of power of the I'm sorry to interrupt, but with the power of the

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Holy Spirit, if you are Holy Spirit driven, you should not be sinning.

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Those things shouldn't be a problem. No. Well, are you saying then that Christians don't sin anymore? I'm not saying that I'm saying

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Christians sin all the time. Maybe. I don't know. From an individual perspective,

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I don't know. They do. Maybe they do. But, you know, you know, again, yes,

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Christians still sin and Christians struggle with their sin, even as Paul, the apostle in Romans chapter seven, verses 18 to 25.

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He talked about the things he did not want to do. He did. And the things he knows he wasn't supposed to do, he did and vice versa.

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So, you see, he struggled, but it doesn't mean he wasn't saved. Some people say, but how can you have an unrepentant heart if you're if you're still sinning?

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How can you have a repentant heart if you're still sinning? That's my question. OK, are there any sins that you have committed more than once in your life since you've been a

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Christian? Absolutely. OK, are you repentant about them? I am.

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OK. So you're repentant. And yet, and yet I still hold on. Hold on.

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Hold on. Hold on. You you repent, but you still struggle with them.

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Repentance is an attitudinal change. It doesn't mean we automatically have victory over it every time. OK, then why do

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I feel guilt, shame and like I'm not going to be saved if I keep engaging in these sins?

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Because you don't understand what the gospel is. If you think you're going to lose your salvation, you're not really saved because you fall back into sin, even as a

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Christian, then you don't understand what the gospel is. See, the gospel is a gospel issue. I know because I took your course and I know because I believe, you know,

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I believe. Therefore, I know I don't know to believe. Well, maybe

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I got that backwards. I'm trying to say is that in our sanctification, becoming more

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Christlike, we sin and we can struggle with our sin and we can commit before God not to do a particular sin again, and then we succumb to it again.

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It doesn't mean a repentance wasn't true. It means it means that at this point it was temporary, even though we intended it not to be.

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But it resulted in I mean, our failure resulted in our sin.

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We all continue to sin and we're all seeking repentance in many different ways. But if you think that you aren't saved because you're still sinning, that means you don't know the gospel.

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Now, I'm hoping that's not your position. That is not my position at all.

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I know that, you know, I know that, you know, I've come to that conclusion, you know, from what

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I've you know, what God has granted me through his grace, only only.

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And. I'm just struggling with repentance and to grace right now, you know,

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I'm struggling with that. I'm saying, you know, I'm not as good as I could be.

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I'm not as bad as I should be by God's grace that saved me from going down that road.

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But still, I just don't you know, again, maybe it's my Catholic upbringing. Maybe it's my works.

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You know, you have to be this. You have to be you know, you have to do this. You have to do that. You have to work your way to this, you know.

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Well, I don't know. But I would say read Romans chapter seven verses 18 through 25 and see what

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Paul was going through. God grants repentance. The repentance is a generic. We turn from our old ways.

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We turn from them. We turn away from them and towards Christ. It doesn't mean we automatically stop sinning.

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And then when we have these things that we work against, you know, our sin. So how do you deal with your sin then?

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You know, how do you deal with your sin then when you make a mistake? You just run to God and say, oh,

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I'm sorry, I made a mistake. Forgive me, even though you knew that your evil heart led you that way.

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I mean, yes, I pray for the mortification of my sin every day that God would mortify the flesh.

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That might be a little bit too Catholic for you as well, but that's what I was taught, you know, we ask

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God to help mortify our sins, to help, you know, cleanse us from our sins, to help us to lead in the right way.

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Where's that? You're asking a lot of different things.

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I don't know what you want me to answer, because when I start to answer, you cut me off and keep going. No, I'm sorry.

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So go ahead. So, I mean, I'm just waiting because you're just going through this and that and that and this.

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I'm trying to explain something. God grants us repentance in a generic sense. We still struggle with things.

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That struggle is sign of our regeneration. But we need to continually fight against our sin.

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That's why I say read Romans eight, Romans seven, 18 through 25. It does not mean, though, that if we continue to fall into the same sin through years, it doesn't mean we're not saved.

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It means that we are just weak. And when we do fall into that sin, we ask God to forgive us again.

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We go to the cross all the time. And in that, we glorify God. OK, are you there?

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Yes. Sounds very simplistic, though. Sounds very simplistic. So there's nothing on our side that we could do.

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Yes, I did. Yeah, I said you continue to struggle against it. You go to the cross, you ask forgiveness and you continue to war against it.

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That's what you do. All right, all right, that's it.

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You aren't getting into Catholicism now, are you? Because you mentioned that's what the Catholics teach and stuff. No, no, no, no.

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I was raised Catholic, but, you know, I knew a lot of good priests.

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They were nice people. You know, I mean, I think you should take a little bit of maybe a lower edge on them because there are a lot of good people.

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I mean, maybe they are misled, maybe they're in a false religion. But, you know, I mean, they've been led astray, you could say.

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But still, you know, they were good people. You know, they always set me right on the right track, rather.

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You know what I mean? Yeah, I agree. The right track to hell or the right track to heaven.

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I don't know. That's for God to decide. Not my call. But yeah,

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I mean, you know, just like you say, yeah, there are some, you know, there might be some saved people in the

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Catholic faith as in all other faiths. Not for me to decide, you know, that's for bigger minds.

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And maybe God. But but I won't condone anything that they say that is unbiblical.

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I will not do that. Yeah. And they preach a false gospel and they promote.

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Well, we know that. So, you know, that's what that's why I say anyone who believes official

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Roman Catholic theology can't be a true Christian. They're going to hell official. And that's and that's very sad.

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Man, I'll tell you why we're going to go, we're going to go, we're going to go. I was going to move along. So let's get to Pearl from Virginia.

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Hey, Pearl, welcome. You're on the air. Thank you, sir. Could you please give me your opinion as to whether God, the almighty, except accept anything from me, except that it comes through his blessed

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Holy Spirit? It comes through Christ. Christ is our mediator.

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He's our high priest. And so everything comes through Christ, not through the Holy Spirit. OK, I beg your pardon.

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Say that again. Jesus is our mediator. First Timothy two.

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Yeah, he's our high priest. Romans Hebrews six twenty and Hebrews seven twenty five.

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He is our intercessor. So his blood is what cleanses us. Amen. OK, so first John one nine.

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You know, if we confess our sins, he's faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

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Right. Because it's his blood that cleanses us. I'm so glad you say that, because I believe that with all of my heart.

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Good. And so and our ministers do not preach that very much.

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And I think that Satan is the reason of that. He does not want that to be preached because it was his undoing.

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OK, so let's get back to the original, original topic. So what

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I ask you, in other words, is that, you know, we think good people, good people.

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And if I'm not, I may be incorrect, but I think God's word says there are no good people.

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Right. Romans three, 10 through 12. Right. There's no one who's good, no one who does good because that's what

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I thought. So in other words, God, the Holy Spirit is the only one that does that, which is receivable by God, the almighty.

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In me. OK, so I'm going to say it again.

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It's it's not through the Holy Spirit that your works and intentions are mediated, but through Christ, through the

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Lord Jesus Christ. Right. He's our high priest. All right. But they are all one, three and one and one in three.

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Right. That's the doctrine of the Trinity. But the person of Christ is our mediator, not the

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Holy Spirit. OK, so did I say wrong or right? The only thing that God receives from me is through his son.

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The Lord Jesus Christ. There you go. So that's true. So that what he receives needs to be purified through the work of Christ, not through some other means, only through him.

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And that's that's what he's only through the precious blood of the lamb. That's right. Yeah.

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OK. OK. Thank you, sir. I got to go. All right. Bye bye. OK. Wow. Hmm.

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Yeah. So I hope you all enjoyed the show. And by God's grace, we'll be back on here on Monday and we'll talk to you then.