MSL: May 10, 2024

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Hi everybody.

Welcome to the show.

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And put it in the subject line, let's see, put it in the subject line, radio comment, radio question.

And for the podcaster, today's date is May 10th, 2024.

All right, I'm going to ask a favor of people, because I'm going to do an experiment here.

SEO is search engine optimization stuff, and I keep pretty good records on CARM,

and I have been doing it since 2009.

So I do a daily count, I do one of page views of new visitors, returning

visitors, and that's how I know that we've had 162 million visitors.

Well, what I've noticed lately is that the site's traffic is going down, and I've heard other ministries say

similar things.

So it's a noticeable decrease, so what I'm asking here is, just an experiment,

Fridays are pretty much typically slow days for the internet.

That's okay, that's what it is.

Tuesdays and Wednesdays are usually pretty busy.

So what I'm asking is, if you could go to the CARM website, and just click on it once, one

article, whatever, just to go, because it'll show up after midnight, all the

counts come in, and then I can check and I can compare it to the previous Fridays to see if there's

any difference.

I'm just curious, it's just off the top of my head, kind of a thing to do.

So all you have to do is go to CARM, C -A -R -M dot O -R -G, and click on a page.

I'm not saying click on one page 18 times, but just kind of click, see what the traffic is, and

that, all right.

That's one thing.

Also, if you want to watch the show and participate with wonderful people, usually

wonderful people, in the chat room, we send most of our stuff out on Rumble.

And Rumble is equivalent to YouTube, of course YouTube is the mammoth, but

YouTube is liberal, and I've got to be careful what I say on the radio about COVID

and the Biden crime family and things like that, because I can get, they're disciplined.

They say, oh, sorry, you gave misinformation, you know.

Like if I say, here's a test, like masks, the standard masks that you wear, that they

have, if they're worn properly, are 50 to 60 percent effective.

Cloth masks, just pure cloth, are 3 percent effective.

These are just facts, okay.

Now I've said those things before, and within two or three days, I'm banned for just repeating a fact.

Okay, so we're going to see if it's going to happen.

But it doesn't, it happens on YouTube, but it doesn't happen on Rumble, which is why we're going to Rumble more and

more.

We simulcast to two YouTube channels, and also to Rumble.

So like I was saying, again, if you want to just help me out with a little test for traffic, just asking you,

the listeners, to go to my website, karm .org, just click on it once.

That's all you got to do.

Just go, yep, in there.

Okay, now do important stuff.

And I'll be able to tell how the traffic is, and if the radio listening

audience that I've asked makes any noticeable difference in the traffic.

That's, I'm just curious.

That's all it is, not a big deal.

All right, now we have a caller kind of in limbo, so I'm not sure what's happening with.

That.

There we go.

So, okay, so that's working, right, everything's working, good, good, good.

And as soon as he's activated, we'll get to him.

And then what I'll probably end up doing is a little bit of hate mail and a little bit of wacko mail.

Like I said, we've got some new wacko mail coming in, so we'll see how it works.

Okay, so, and I'm waiting for that, but like I said, if you want to email me, you can.

If you have a comment or a question for the radio show, just go to your email and direct it to info

at carm .org, info at carm .org, put in subject line, radio comment,

radio question.

We can get to it, see?

And look, I can see, like Jim, he put in radio question, but he put it in at 914

this morning, so let's see, question about your tech, huh,

okay, anyway, let's get to Luke from Washington,.

D .C.

Luke, welcome.

You're on the air.

Hi, Matt, how are you?

I'm all right, hanging in there.

So what do you got, man?

Have you heard about the recent news about a radio programmer, KP O 'Hannan?

Who?

He's an Indian guy, he is, he has, he's the president of GFA,

Gospel for Asia.

Oh, okay.

A large non -profit mission, organization with a focus on India and Asia.

He's also the founding Metropolitan Bishop of the Believers Eastern Church,

and he was, he graduated from Theological Seminary in

Dallas in 1976, and he was a Baptist minister,

and he has a lot of title

now, and anyway, he died on 8th May on a car accident in Dallas,.

Texas.

I don't know who he is, I haven't heard of him.

He was just like you, he was a Bible -answering man, you know, in the U .S., in

Washington,.

D .C.

He changed his name, now he's in the Eastern Orthodox, he started a new church,

Eastern Orthodox Church in India, and he changed his name,

Canisius Johann I, and he authored over 200 books on

Christian living and missions.

Okay, do you have a question, though?

Do you have a question at all?

Yeah, my question is, he took a lot of money.

He has a fraud, money from the U .S.

It's a Grace Church, I don't know the Grace Church, they're sending hundreds of thousands of,

you know, last 17 years, hundreds of thousands of dollars to India.

He sends some pictures of poor people.

Do you have a question, though?

Yeah, question, what do you think about this kind of people, or this kind of missionaries?

Actually, he's not a missionary, he's a Baptist preacher, Baptist radio Bible -answering man, and then he

changed.

Okay, so, I think it's good, what they're doing.

You know, we want more missionaries out there, and make money so they can get radio going.

I wish we had a lot more money so we could do a lot more on CARM.

Praise God that he did that.

Unfortunately, he died, and he's with the Lord now, so, there you go.

No, no, no, no, no.

He changed, now he's become Eastern Orthodox Bishop.

Like Hanegraaff, you know the Hanegraaff, what is his name?

Hanegraaff, yeah, he became Eastern Orthodox, Hanegraaff.

Yeah, that would tell me that he was not a Christian, yes.

Yeah, same like this guy.

He was the same, he was a Baptist priest, and then he became Eastern Orthodox, and he

Hanegraaff did not become a bishop.

This guy, even though he's married, he can become a bishop in that church, because he

started the church.

He's the first bishop of that church in India.

Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

You're just giving me a bunch of information like it's a biography.

But, you know, I just wanted a question, and got that question.

So, now, is this the guy Gospel for Asia?

Right, is that him?

Yes, Gospel for Asia, yes.

Yeah, he died, I'm reading it, it says he died of a cardiac arrest at the age of 74.

That's what it says, in a hospital in Dallas, Texas.

So, you know, whatever, but I'm looking at it.

No, no, not cardiac arrest, he has a car accident, and then during the car accident and the emergency

surgery, he can have cardiac arrest, that's happened.

Okay.

Alright, so if he went into the Eastern Orthodox Church, then I certainly would doubt his salvation,

absolutely.

Okay, can't say for sure, you know, but, okay.

So, unfortunately, that's what I would have to say about that.

Okay?

Okay.

Can you research about him, and then I will ask question next time, Gospel for Asia, how much

money he cheated on Canada, America, so many countries, so many

countries, he has so many.

You mean he cheated?

Yes.

Oh, I don't know, you know, I don't need to research him because I have

so many other things I'm working on right now, and I'm just trying to get some projects going.

So, research like that would mean stopping everything else.

But, you know, I'm reading an article about him right now, and, you know, it's just on

christianpost .com.

So, you know, there you go.

I hope he's with the Lord, I hope he was Christian, but if he embezzled and robbed people, I don't know.

I mean, you're saying it, but I don't know if that's true or not.

Okay?

So, I don't know.

So, you need to write an article about him, just research about, because this is, there's so many, America, you know,

he's the number one fraud, just like Kenneth Copeland.

You know, Kenneth Copeland, all those people in India.

Okay.

Yeah, it's just, look, people want me to, I have over 850 articles I'm supposed to write.

That's not even including individuals I'm supposed to research.

I have 850 questions waiting for me.

850, maybe 843, I don't know.

But I have over 100 people I'm supposed to analyze.

And right now, I'm basically the only one writing for Karm.

And so, I just don't have a lot of time.

Plus, I have to do video work.

I have to establish a video presence.

I have to figure out how to get all my video work to be for phone size on different

medias.

And I'm trying, so it takes a lot of energy.

And when everybody else goes home, and they're done at 5 o 'clock, I don't quit till 9.

So, I've just already got a lot going.

And if I get to them, I get to them.

If I don't, I don't.

Okay?

Yeah, I'm just saying he has a lot of controversies about income tax raid, court rulings in

India, and lawsuits in America.

I got you.

US federal lawsuits.

Yeah, he's a fraud lawsuit.

Luke, I got you.

Luke, I got it.

Luke, I got it.

Okay?

Okay, I got what you're saying.

But I just don't have time right now.

Okay?

All right.

So, appreciate the call, though.

Okay?

All right, thank you.

All right.

Talk to you later.

Okay.

Let's get to Elijah from Philly.

Elijah, welcome.

You're on the air.

Hello.

Hello. How are you?

Hey, man.

How are you doing today?

Hanging in there.

Yep.

Hanging in there.

So, what do you got, man?

Good, good.

Yeah, I got a question, because I was watching a debate recently

about James 2 and talking about, you know, faith alone versus

faith plus works.

And this was brought up by the person who believes in faith alone.

He brought up the Great White Throne Judgment.

He brought up that in Revelation 20, people are damned,

not because of what's written in the Book of Deeds about, you know, there are good

deeds and bad deeds, but they're damned on what's not found in the Book of Life.

And I thought that was interesting, and I thought that was a good point.

So, what's your thoughts on that?

So, the Book of Life is in Revelation 20, and I saw the dead, the great and small,

standing before the throne, and books were opened, and another book was opened, which is

the Book of Life, and the dead were judged from the things which were written in the books according to their deeds.

Okay, now, there's a break, so hold on, and we'll get back, hopefully, and we'll talk about that and see if we can figure it out, okay?

So, hey, folks, if you want to give me a call, all you have to do is

dial 877 -207 -2276.

We'll be right back.

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Here's Matt Slick.

All right, everybody, welcome back to the show.

Let's get back on with Elijah.

All right, so you want to know about the Book of Life, right?

I wanted to know what are your thoughts on the guy's argument,

who had a faith -alone position in that debate, who said that he

believes that Revelation 2012 teaches that we're judged

by whether or not we're found in the Book of Life, and not what our good deeds and bad deeds were

that were written down in the other books.

But as the break was going, I started to reread that verse, and it says,

"...and the dead were judged according to their works by what was written in the books.".

And so I began to think, you know, what if a Faith Plus Works person

brought up this argument that this verse seems to be teaching that since they're

judged according to their works by what is written in the books, they will probably say that this is teaching that

you're going to be judged on faith and works, it being righteousness.

So how would you respond to that?

Well, you had a lot of stuff there.

You know, faith alone is the biblical position, that we're justified by faith alone.

And a lot of false religious systems want to add our works.

And so the kind of verses like this and other verses, what they'll say is that we're judged by our works.

Well, yeah, we are judged by our works, but not for salvation, because the Bible teaches contrary to that.

And so they forget the differentiation between justification and sanctification.

Justification is the instantaneous, permanent, legal work of God where He declares a sinner righteous.

And this is concomitant with being saved and forgiven.

And so when it talks about people, you know, they're judged from the things written in these books

according to their deeds.

Of course, they're going to be judged.

We Christians are going to be judged by our works, and the unbelievers are going to be judged by their works.

We Christians are going to be judged in heaven.

They're going to be judged in hell.

And so the works are related to where we are and what we are, but they do

not get us salvation, nor they keep us saved.

And if that clears up the issue, I'm not quite sure yet.

So is that close or what?

Yeah, yeah, that does help.

I'm trying to think, because I did have another question.

So this debate, let me ask you.

Who was the debate between?

Just curious if you remember.

If you don't, that's okay.

Yeah, I've got it in my watch history.

Okay, I found it.

It was on Standing for Truth.

It was between Bob Wolkin and Sean Griffin.

It was a James 2 debate.

Yeah, I've debated Sean Griffin.

Yeah, James 2 debate, it's easy.

James 2 is an easy section of Scripture to go through.

What they want to do is say, well, what the opposing side does is they ignore the

context and just say that we're justified by our faith and our works.

And it's a foolish arrogance.

It's pride.

It's foolishness.

Because it's saying that God is going to look at how good we were and combine that with our faith in

Christ, and then that will get us saved.

And that's saying that the work of Christ was not sufficient in and of itself to save us.

And that faith that God grants to us is not enough.

And so it's a problem.

And those who teach that, I cannot consider brothers in Christ.

Okay.

So Sean Griffin's out.

Yeah.

Okay.

I did have another question.

I'm trying to think.

So in the Old

Testament, because there's this other guy that comes on Standing for Truth from time to time

to debate.

And his name is David Preston.

Have you heard of him yet?

David Preston?

I don't know.

I may have even debated him.

I'm on Standing for Truth every now and then doing debates.

So I've debated so many people in so many different venues.

I can't remember all their names.

But at any rate, go ahead.

Yeah.

So David Preston, he believes in faith alone as well.

But if I remember correctly, I believe he said he's a hyper -dispensationalist.

And so he does believe in faith alone.

But he believes that under the Mosaic Law, before Jesus

died and rose again, he believed that people had to do faith and works under the Mosaic

Law in order to be saved.

And he believed that after the Resurrection, then the faith alone thing was instituted.

And he also has several debates on that channel where he argues that he believes the

Epistle of James was written mainly for

the 144 ,000 Jews who will be living during the Tribulation.

And he believes that the reason why he believes that it teaches faith

and works in James is because he believes that the Mosaic Law requires faith and works in order to be

saved.

And so he believes that James is for the Jews during the Tribulation and all that stuff.

And I think he I think the reason why he believes that is because I think it's like the very first few verses of James.

And I think he said that it was written to the 12 tribes.

Yeah.

The 12 tribes, as is Peter, is written to the scattered Jews,

both of them.

So.

So, yeah, I would I would disagree with him wholeheartedly.

We're justified by faith.

And it says in Rome and the Genesis 15, nine before the law was there, 15, six, actually, it says,

in fact, I'll read it to you.

That's what Genesis 15, six says.

And then he that's Abraham believed in the Lord and he that's God reckoned it to him as righteousness.

So it's right there.

And Paul quotes that in the Romans, four, three.

And it is the teaching that ultimately justification is by faith

alone.

The works and the law that were in the Old Testament were to point to Christ.

The law is a taskmaster that leads us to Christ.

That's Galatians 3, 24.

And what that means is the law is a tutor, a guide that shows us that we

have to be saved by grace.

If we could be saved by faith and law, then we have when we go to Galatians

to let's see, 16.

Yes.

By virtue of the law, no flesh will be justified.

And in two twenty one, if I do not nullify the grace of God for righteousness comes through the law, then

Christ died needlessly.

So what Paul is saying is that it's just it's either law or grace.

That's it.

It's law or faith.

OK, because grace and faith go together.

So that's all it is.

He doesn't combine them.

He does not combine them.

So what this guy is doing is combining them in the Old Testament.

And that's a false teaching.

He's wrong.

OK.

Yeah.

And James is not just written to the twelve tribes because he wants to say

that.

And that's interesting.

If he wants to say that to the twelve tribes dispersed in greetings and things like that.

OK.

Does that mean it's not doesn't apply to us?

Because it says in First Peter, he writes to those who reside as aliens

scattered in various areas.

He's talking about the Jews and he quotes a lot of Old Testament stuff.

So it's also written to the Jews more specifically with a mixture of the Gentiles.

So he doesn't.

He's wrong.

OK.

All right, man.

All right.

Go.

All right. God bless.

I'll see you later.

I'll talk to you later.

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Eight seven seven two zero seven two to seven six.

So hey, good Friday.

I think what I'm going to do is get to some e -mails.

Let's try this one.

Love your ministry.

Following you for many years.

From here in Scotland.

That's cool.

My daughter just went to Scotland and I'm going to go visit sometime.

She's going to be moving there and staying there for quite a while.

Anyway, really trust your discernment.

If a born again Christian man gets married to a born again woman after both were divorced and are not divorced biblically, i

.e. not from abandonment or sexual immorality, then are the Christian married couple in continual adultery and should they

divorce to be sure that they're not continually sinning?

No, they should stay married.

What they need to do is confess their failure and their sin before the Lord and just lay

before God and that's it.

Just be married.

Because they've already made a promise to each other and let the past be the past.

Let the blood of Christ cleanse it.

Move forward.

Stay married.

Be faithful.

And that's it.

That's what I would say.

Oh, it says both have repented of their sin of remarrying without a biblical justification but they are faithful to each other and want to stay

married.

They should.

Yep.

But can they or are they perpetual adulterers in marriage?

No, I would say no.

Because even though they did this, man gets married, both were

divorced and were not divorced.

Biblically.

So were they unbelievers at that time?

If they were unbelievers at the time, even more so if the blood of Christ cleanses it.

If they were believers, it's really a very serious issue and they really have sinned.

But I would say that at this point, God has, by going to the

cross, the Lord Jesus will.

Cleanse.

It's done.

And just leave it alone and go forward.

This reminds me, you know, we had a discussion in a seminary

and there was a mission context or missionary from someplace or we

had those or it was just a discussion about it.

I don't remember.

But we had this discussion.

There were real situations where there would be tribes where the men practiced

polygamy and then vandals go in and people get, they

get saved and say a man and his and say he has four wives, they'll get

saved.

Should he then divorce all of them except for one of them?

And the answer was no, just stay married and just don't take any more wives

and don't replace any wives.

You know that that situation, just stay married.

And I thought it was wise, you know, this is, it's not an exactly easy thing to to assert, which is the right

position.

But I have a saying I've tried to live by on situations like this and it's I'd rather

err on the side of grace than law on debatable issues.

I've got to be gracious about it than hyper legalistic about it.

So that's my position.

And there you go.

All right, let's try this.

Amen.

Here's a question for the radio.

Is it possible that God will change his mind from eternal perspective?

He never changes his mind because all things are understood, decreed by God since he knows himself

exhaustively in all situations and he brought into existence a particular set

of actualities that he has decided.

He knows what he's decided.

But on the human level, God changes his mind.

And this called with epiphymorphism written on this and talked about it.

So there you go.

That does get it.

It does.

Can happen.

Wow.

That's pretty good.

Oh, man.

I know what I'm talking about.

I talk in English.

All right.

Let's see.

Um, I hope you're having a great week.

Just a friendly reminder of the works.

Okay.

Um.

Yeah.

Let's just do this. Delete that.

Okay.

I'm going to look into that.

The Whack -O -Meal.

Let's see.

I thought I had a new Whack -O -Meal.

So this came in this week.

Here we go.

I only read like the first like 10 words.

Oh, Whack -O -Meal.

So I didn't read all of it.

So here it goes.

And so on the 41st day, having one of these. withstood all of Satan's testing in the desert.

Jesus turned water into wine.

The essential forbidding for forbidden.

Oh, I remember I read the other stuff anyway.

The forbidden fruit giving father Satan.

All he wanted.

All he wanted.

The wine sacrament of the tree, the knowledge of good and evil in the midst of the Garden of Eden, the high priest of

Jerusalem, Melchizedek's offering of bread and wine to Abraham after his having defeated at the local kings.

All the local kings.

Sorry.

The tree of knowledge of good and evil, also known as the karma wheel.

So he goes on.

He says, all roads lead to Satan on the karma wheel, except one.

Genesis 129.

Karma wheel is also known as a tree of knowledge.

Oh, my goodness.

Wine is euphemistic for hypocrisy.

Best example, Judas turned water into hypocrisy.

You know, for most people, this is a waste of time for me.

It's entertainment for me.

I like it.

I don't know.

There's something wrong with me.

I know.

Let's see.

Dead animal on the plate is a sure sign of no talent in the kitchen.

Let me read that one again.

Dead animal on the plate is a sure sign of no talent in the kitchen.

What?

What?

Is the animal supposed to be alive?

What?

You know, if I put a ribeye, cooked ribeye, does that mean I have no talent?

My wife goes, oh, that's good.

There's some talent there.

You know, dead animal on the plate is a sure sign of no talent in the kitchen.

Woo hoo.

That was worth it.

That was worth the wait for me.

That was good.

Let's see another one.

Dead people on the altar is a sure sign of no soul in the temple.

Oh my goodness.

As we would like to say in theological circles, he does not have all his paws in the litter.

Box.

Let's try another one in the wacko.

Technically, I'm a Taoist since age three, but I just need to know how to avoid

making.

Up my own faith.

That's awesome.

Hey, I need some advice.

Okay.

What do you want?

Uh, how do I avoid making up my own religion?

Don't make anything up.

Oh, why didn't I think of that?

You know, I mean, you know, if you're making something up, okay, uh, that's, that's how

it is.

You know?

Um, so if he doesn't know, am I making this up or not?

I need to know how.

Not, I didn't know how to avoid making up my own faith.

Don't you know when you make up something up, this is a no brainer for me.

Okay.

Let me go on.

Let's see.

If I founded my own religion, then it would resemble Buddhism on a note.

The Buddhist belief in impermanence resembles something from the book of Ecclesiastes as

into every day.

There's a season.

Okay.

Uh, correct me if I'm wrong.

You're wrong.

Okay.

There you go.

Yeah.

Let's see.

It was easy.

You're wrong.

See, correct me if I'm wrong.

You're wrong.

Okay.

Uh, how about this one?

I know I promised not to bug you, but my last email was anything but

pleasant.

Okay.

And I just want to get along and coexist.

Since not everyone's a Christian, different people are different needs.

Hence the world religions.

We cannot homogenize everyone.

Okay. Okay.

I'm waiting for a question or something here that gets good.

It's just making statements like they're fortune cookie statements, you know, now remember that unconditional love is a double

edged sword.

Oh, it is?

I didn't know that.

Uh, not only would it give, it can also take away if you feel otherwise fine, but God doesn't.

Judge.

Okay.

You know, I need another, uh, saying besides he doesn't have all his paws in a liquor pot in a litter box.

Like, uh, his duct tape doesn't stick.

That might be good.

I don't know.

Duct tape.

It's ratchet.

Doesn't, uh, turn.

I don't know.

You know, maybe you guys can give me some.

All right.

Let's try this.

Let's try Thomas from Kentucky.

Hey, Thomas, welcome.

You are

on the

air means that

now if you could speak, you know, mainly on

repentance, that's is

maybe that thing going on with

the road, repentance, what it means, well,

let's

jump.

In.

Repentance is from the Greek word metanoia or metanoia.

Okay.

And, um, metanoia here, metanoia, and it means a

change of mind from evil because meta change and not us mind change of mind and

attitudinal purposeful change of mind away from that, which is bad towards what is good.

That's what it means at the basic level.

We've got a break.

So hold on.

We write back folks after these messages, please stay tuned.

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Let's get back on with Thomas from Kentucky.

Thomas.

Are you there?

Yes. Matt. Thanks again.

In the new test.

And the noun repent.

No.

We're not in the questions.

Repentance.

Yeah.

The noun would be repentance.

Yeah.

And I Tony it. I believe.

Yeah.

Meta.

Metanoia.

Is that repentance?

Metanoia.

Oh, is the verb.

Okay.

Metanoia.

And it deals with two Greek words, meta, change, and not us, mind,

the change of mind.

Now you asked, is it necessary for salvation?

Yes and no.

Repentance ultimately is changing your mind in compliance with the

law.

So if the law says don't lie and you're lying, then you repent of your lying.

You're complying with the law.

It is not compliant with the law or our repentance that gets us salvation.

But repentance is part of being saved because repentance works because God

grants that we have repentance.

Second Timothy two twenty five.

Just like he grants.

We have faith.

Look, it's one twenty nine.

So repentance is part of salvation in that we do turn from our sin and we should.

But it's not the turning from sin that saves us.

It's faith in Christ that saves us.

Are they unrepentant?

Well, it depends.

You can have different kinds of sin that people can get into in degrees.

You can have someone who has a problem with a certain sin and has fallen into it

periodically through his whole life and he continues to fight it.

Well, he's repentant as much as he can be.

And he fails.

It doesn't mean he's not saved.

Then you have the kind of the power of the power of the Holy

Spirit.

If you are,

are you saying then that Christians don't sin anymore?

I'm not saying that.

I'm saying Christians, maybe.

I don't know.

From an individual perspective, I don't know.

They do.

Maybe they do.

But, you know, you know, yes, Christians still sin

and Christians struggle with their sin.

Even as Paul the Apostle in Romans chapter seven, verses 18 through 25, he talked about

the things he did not want to do.

He did.

And the things he knows he wasn't supposed to do, he did and vice versa.

So see, he struggled, but it doesn't mean he wasn't saved.

Some people say, but how can you have an unrepentant heart?

Can you have a repentant heart if you're still sinning?

That's my question.

Okay.

Are there any sins that you have committed more than once in your life since you've been a Christian?

Absolutely.

Okay.

Are you repentant about them?

Okay.

So you're repentant.

And yet, and yet I still commit them.

Hold on.

Hold on.

Hold on.

Hold on.

You, you repent, but you still struggle with them.

Repentance is an attitudinal change.

It doesn't mean we automatically have victory over it every time.

Okay.

Then why do I feel guilt, shame, and like I'm not going to be saved if I

keep engaging in these sins?

Because you don't understand what the gospel is.

If you think you're going to lose your salvation, you're not really saved because you fall back into sin, even as

a Christian, then you don't understand what the gospel is.

Yes, I know what the gospel is.

I, I know because I took your course and I know because

I believe to believe I'm

trying.

To say is that in our sanctification becoming more Christlike, we sin

and we can struggle with our sin and we can commit before God not to do a particular sin again.

And then we succumb to it again.

It doesn't mean a repentance wasn't true.

It means, it means that at this point it was temporary, even though we intended it not to be,

but it resulted in, I mean, our, our failure resulted in our sin.

We all continue to sin and we're all seeking repentance in many different ways.

But if you think that you aren't saved because you're still sending,

that means you don't know the gospel.

No, I'm hoping that's not your position.

I know that, you know, I know that, you

know, I've come to that has

granted

me to grace right

now.

You know, I'm struggling with that.

I'm saying, you know, I'm not as good as I could be.

I'm not as bad as I

should be

operating.

Maybe it's my way to do this.

You have to do that.

You have to work your way to this, you know, I don't know.

But I would say, read Romans chapter seven, verses 18 through 25 and see what Paul was going through.

God grants repentance.

The repentance is a generic.

We turn from our old ways.

We turn from them.

We turn away from them and towards Christ.

It doesn't mean we automatically stop sinning.

And then when we have these things that we work against, you know, so how do you deal.

With your sin?

Then, you know, how do you deal with your sin?

And when you make a mistake, you just run to God and say, oh, I'm sorry, I made a mistake.

Your evil heart might

be a

little bit too Catholic for you as well, but

that's what I was taught.

You know, we ask God to help mortifier us from our sins to help

us to lead in the right.

Way.

Where's that?

You're asking a lot of different things.

I don't know what you want me to answer, because when I start to answer, you cut me off and keep going.

No, I'm sorry.

Go ahead.

So, I mean, I'm just waiting because you're just going through this and that and that.

And this.

I'm trying to explain something.

God grants us repentance in a generic sense.

We still struggle with things.

That struggle is sign of our regeneration.

But we need to continually fight against our sin.

That's why I say read Romans eight, Romans seven, 18 through 25.

It does not mean, though, that if we continue to fall into the same sin through years, it doesn't mean we're not saved.

It means that we are just weak.

And when we do fall into that sin, we ask God to forgive us again.

We go to the cross all the time.

And in that, we glorify God.

OK, are

you there?

Yes.

Sounds very simplistic, though.

Sounds very simplistic.

So there's nothing on our side that we could do.

Yes.

I did.

Yeah.

I said you continue to struggle against it.

You go to the cross, you ask forgiveness and you continue to war against it.

That's what you do.

That's it.

You aren't getting into Catholicism now, are you?

Because you mentioned that's what the Catholics teach and stuff.

No, no, no, no.

I was raised Catholic.

I knew a

lot.

I mean, I think you should take a ledge on them because there are a lot of

good people.

I mean, maybe they are misled, maybe they're in a false religion.

But you know, I mean, they've been led astray, you could say.

But still, you know, they were good people.

You know, they always set me.

Yeah, I agree.

The right track to hell or the right track to heaven.

I don't know.

That's for God to decide.

Yeah.

I mean, you know, just like you say, yeah, there there are some, you know, there might be some saved people in the Catholic

faith, as in not for me

to decide on

anything that they say that is on Bible.

Yeah.

And they preach a false gospel and they promote idolatry.

Well, we know that.

So we know that.

And so what.

That's why I say anyone who believes official Roman Catholic theology can't be a

true Christian.

They're going to hell.

Official, official.

And that's and that's very sad.

I'll tell you why.

We're going to go.

We're going to go.

We're going to go. We're going to go.

All right.

We're going to move along.

So let's get to Pearl from Virginia.

Pearl, welcome.

You're on the air.

Thank you, sir.

Could you please give me your opinion as to whether God,

the almighty, except accepts anything from me,

except that it comes through his blessed Holy Spirit?

It comes through Christ.

Christ is our mediator.

He's our high priest.

And so everything comes through Christ, not through the Holy Spirit.

OK.

I beg your pardon.

Say that again.

Jesus is our mediator.

First Timothy two.

He's our high priest.

Romans, Hebrews six, 20 and Hebrews seven, 25.

He is our intercessor.

So his blood is what cleanses us.

Amen.

OK, so first John one nine, you know, if we confess our sins, he's faithful and just to forgive us our sins

and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

Right.

Because it's his blood that cleanses us from all unrighteousness.

I'm so glad you say that, because I believe that with all of my heart.

Good.

And so and our ministers don't do not preach that very much.

And I think that Satan is the reason of that.

He does not want that to be preached because it was his undoing.

OK, so let's get back to the original original topic.

So what I ask you, in other words, is that,

you know, we say good people, good people.

And if I'm not, I may be incorrect, but I think God's word says there are no good

people.

Right.

Romans three, 10 through 12.

Right.

There's no one who's good, no one who does good because that's what I thought.

So, in other words, God, the Holy Spirit is the only one that does that, which is

receivable by God, the Almighty.

In me.

OK, so I'm going to say it again.

It's not through the Holy Spirit that your works and intentions are mediated, but through.

Christ, through the Lord Jesus Christ.

Right.

He's our high priest.

All right.

But they are all one, three in one and one in three, right?

That's the doctrine of the Trinity.

But the person of Christ is our mediator, not the Holy Spirit.

OK, so did I say wrong or right?

The only thing that God receives from me is through his son, the Lord Jesus

Christ.

There you go.

So that's true.

OK, so that what he receives needs to be purified through the work of Christ, not through

some other means, only through him.

That's that's only through the precious blood of the lamb.

That's right.

Yep.

OK.

Thank you, sir.

All right.

Bye bye.

Wow.

Hmm.

Yeah.

So I hope you all enjoyed the show.

And by God's grace, we'll be back on here on Monday and we'll talk to you then.

Have a great week.

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