November 13, 2020 Show with Gary DeMar on “Restoring the Foundation of Civilization: God’s Government or Chaos” AND James Fryer on “Battle Cry: Reflections for Soul Readiness & the Defence of the Gospel in & out of Season”

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Gary DeMar on Restoring the Foundation of Civilization

And I'm quite sure that many whom Gary DeMar has critiqued in last day's madness and in other places are thinking that this is a very fitting day that we are having him on the program. And it's always a thrill to have Gary on.

He's on for the first hour. And for the second hour, we will be joined by James Fryer, author of Battle Cry, Reflections for Soul Readiness and the Defense of the Gospel in and out of Season. But Gary, who is president of American Vision, author of countless essays, news articles, and more than 35 book titles, and who is also a featured guest on nearly every major news media outlet, is going to be discussing his book during the first hour, his newest book, Restoring the Foundation of Civilization, God's Government or Chaos.

And it's my honor and privilege to welcome you back, Gary DeMar.

It's always good to be back, Chris.

It's always great to have you on the program. And Gary, I can't even think of a more timely period of our nation's history to produce this book, Restoring the Foundation of Civilization, than today. But what was the, or what were the most compelling factors that led you to write this book to begin with?

I was first asked from the fellows that turned out civilization is a process. I haven't done that. But I wanted to put some 50 page book that God and government is pretty easily digestible in God and government.

So I wanted to get something out.

Right away, since especially since we're only on for an hour with you, I'm going to give our listeners our email address. If you'd like to join us on the air with a question for Gary DeMar about restoring the foundation of civilization, God's government or chaos, our email address is chrisarnsen at gmail .com.

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And Gary, when most people likely think of government, immediately what comes to mind is either the federal government, the local state government, the even more local city government where people live specifically.

But there are different forms of governments, aren't they, that are included under the umbrella of God's government?

Yeah, that's one. Most Americans, church and the state, they each have their own separate jurisdictions, although each one of them is bound by God's law in terms of family government. Their government is given the authority to give the civil.

Christians have done a very good job of establishing.

And what do you mean in your book by the second most important government?

Well, the first important government is, of course, is God's government over us. And the important government is self-government. What ends up happening is you turn to some other governor in order to help you govern yourself, to give us health care, taking that responsibility in the development of our children and creating school community or using the church, which is, in fact, a government to set up educational facilities in churches.

Think about it. The Sunday school classes are used in the chapter three church, where there are elders or deacons in the church. Well, you see how an individual, how do they govern in the family? Look, if you can't govern your own family, you're not going to be able to govern others.

So the very nature of government in the Bible, the self-governing individual, that you live your life in terms of God's standards and you don't need an external governor over you to force you how to live in a certain way or not.

When you have a society that breaks down at the individual level, you're going to have a corruption state government, and you're going to have an almighty national government that you should then live.

Now, first of all, let me say that one of the very few times I ever found myself agreeing with leftists when I've been watching the media during all of what has been taking place about in regard to the coronavirus pandemic hysteria going on, the only thing that I can think of lately that I've been agreeing with the leftists over is, yes, keep those schools closed.

Right, yes, exactly.

All the conservatives are demanding that they open the schools back up.

God has a sense of humor. Silver platter is whatsoever. A perfect opportunity here, but this is neutral, and then we need to separate the religious part of education from the secular part of education.

This has been a step to get us to where we are today, where we don't even have a civil religion anymore that's wedded at all with Christianity. We have a new civil religion today, which is...

Now, there are some folks listening, no doubt, who would not even be left-wing at all. They might even be Christians. They might even be reformed Christians like you and I are. And they are very patriotic.

And they may say, now, one of the things that is most beautiful, and one of the things that would be considered the genius of the American way, having a constitutional republic and so on, is that in this nation, we have always stood for the freedom of people.

Some of these freedoms even guaranteed in our constitution, the freedom of speech and the freedom of religion. How can you be seeking to witness a government of God in the realm of the civil government?

As we already said, it's not the only government, but the government of God in a civil government, when this is not a theocracy that we live in, and there are many who, especially perhaps those of the more conservative bent that would be libertarian, who say that we should not be imposing anything upon a society that may be representative of a specific religion like Christianity, or you might even say the Judeo-Christian idea.

But how do you respond to people who recoil and get nervous when they hear about Christians talking about restoring the foundation of civilization with God's government?

Well, first of all, every government, as you should believe, that is, in fact, theocratic. You see that of the church, being involved in our government, wait a minute, so into the church, and yet you're okay with the existing governmental powers to tax you 10, 15, 20, 25, 30, 35, 40 income, and this doesn't count all the other taxes you have.

The secular government today is theocratic. It's also theocratic. If you take your children, you can compel them to go and fight. And please tell me, Christians, those of you who don't want Christianity involved in civil government, there is no neutrality here.

There's no other place to go. You're going to get one theocratic government or another. Now, the difference between Christianity and a secular theocracy is because Christianity is a separation between the governments.

There are only certain things that a civil magistrate cannot do is force people to comply with the civil aspect of the law. And so, again, if you don't have some restraint, some standard by which you can determine what that restraint is, then you are abdicating to let someone else make that determination.

So, I've always said they don't want a theocracy, and they're already living in a theocracy, and they're paying the tax of a theocracy.

Now, would you say that because even though secularists, some of whom might even identify themselves as atheists or agnostics, but even those of all kinds of false religions, whenever they claim they are not imputing their religion into the way they govern, when we're speaking of politicians, that is, everything that we believe is most vital in our ideology is really religion because it's responding to a belief or a fact about God in the scriptures and his commandments in the scriptures.

So, they're either saying that the Bible is false about their understanding of God, even whether he exists, or they're saying what he commands is false or it's not something that should be demanded of us.

So, they're really, because of the fact they are reacting, even if it's not consciously or admittedly, they are spewing a religious philosophy or even a theology in spite of their denial of that. Am I right on that?

Yeah, because look, and what the secularists, what's wrong? And so, when the civil magistrate then passes a law, has to hire somebody who they are forcing, there's no morality playing about God and the God of the Bible and so forth.

They have no say-so in any of this. The point is, you have to get down to specifically what should the civil magistrate do. I'll give you a good example. You will not find the word education, federal government, institutional authority to be involved in education.

And yet, we have a department of education that siphons off tens of billions of dollars of years from the states and then using that over us. Here we have back to not the job of the civil magistrate to be involved in education.

You want to educate your child? That's your responsibility to do that. That's not the state's responsibility. And it's not the state's responsibility to take money from me and to give it to other people.

You're against the ultimate law in the system that we've got today. The Constitution begins with we the people. Is that what we want? Is that the final arbiter of truth and morality, the we the people?

So 51 of the people say this is right or this is wrong. So be it. It's written in stone until we get another right and wrong in a society. 18th century believed in something called natural law, laws of nature, nature's God.

But that only operated in terms of having a Christian worldview. That in 1859 when he says there is no such thing as natural law, but everything came into existence in a period of time. There is no God.

There is no real natural law outside of the way that can be the case 100 years from now.

State Separation and the Limits of Civil Government

Okay, let me go to a listener question. This is a first-time listener, I believe. A bill from Atlanta, Georgia. And a bill says, is the United States indivisible? And is it a foregone conclusion that it can or should remain such in its present form?

And he has a second question as well.

Well, the Constitution itself gives to be changed. I mean, in the first place, they didn't go there to work on the meaning of what they're going to do in Georgia. If you go for a runoff in January, you know, the Democrats would say, hey, we're going to pack the Supreme Court.

We're going to go from nine, maybe to 16. That is our nation. That is our nation's system. And that's the problem. Anything in the United States...

We'll read Bill's second question, and we'll go to a break and have you answer it when we return. Bill's second question is, is peaceful separation from the union a legitimate option for states if their residents should choose to form a new independent Christian republic?

And we will have you answer that when we return. And by the way, Bill, send us your full mailing address in Atlanta, Georgia, because you've just won a free copy of Restoring the Foundation of Civilization, God's Government, or Chaos by Gary DeMar.

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Wow, that's some compliment. How much do I owe you for that?

You don't have to owe me anything. We're in good shape.

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Welcome back. If you just tuned us in, our guest for the first hour of the show is Gary DeMar, president of American Vision, discussing restoring the foundation of civilization, God's government, or chaos.

And Gary, as you likely remember, a bill from Atlanta, Georgia asked before the first break, if, let's see, is peaceful separation from the union a legitimate option for states if their residents should choose to form a new independent Christian republic?

And you know something? If I were to hear somebody saying that that would happen 10 years ago, I probably would have laughed at them and called them a nut. But I have a feeling that that may be, in our future, states wanting to retreat or separate from the union.

But anyway, what do you have to say about that?

Well, I mean, I don't think they'll do that in Albany, California, and even New York. My guess is to see some of the more liberal leaving the union. So, look, this is the reason why I wrote this book.

Christians are always on the defensive. They're always, okay, how do I, I want to leave the union. And, you know, let's do this and let's do that to kind of isolate ourselves more and more. We've got to stop thinking like that.

We need to start thinking in terms of a full-on Christian civilization. We need to get out of this idea that winning the presidency somehow is going to fix all these things, or even winning the Senate.

We need to start at the basic level, and that is at self-government and family government and ecclesiastical or church government. We need to get back to the basics. There are tens of millions of Christians in the United States today, many of whom voted for Biden, go along with so many of these.

And churches are afraid to speak out on these policies. They end up not saying anything. I mean, most pastors don't from the pulpit. That's just the way it is. And one of the reasons, and the other reason is, many of them don't know how to address these taxation.

What does it say about all these things? My suspicions are that most Christians...

Well, thanks again for your excellent questions, Bill. And make sure we have your full mailing address in Atlanta, Georgia, so that CVBBS, Cumberland Valley Bible Book Service, can ship that out to you at no charge to you or to us.

And we thank CVBBS .com for always shipping out our winners in the audience, the free books and Bibles and other things they win when they submit questions. And we also want to thank our guest, Gary DeMar, for providing the books to begin with that we are giving away.

We have another first-time questioner, Joe, in Doylestown, Pennsylvania. I would like to know if you think there will be persecution against Christians when the Biden administration takes over. Well, obviously, he's not very optimistic about Trump having victory after the recounts.

But if you could answer Joe's question.

I probably... It'll come slowly. It's not going to come overnight. I think it's taking place in some form from the government. It's been going on for quite some time. You may see from the IRS, which we saw during the Biden administration.

I don't want to say it's the fault of Christians, but we're in the mess we're in today because Christians are out of the loop. Government ought to work. They've separated their Christianity from the imposed upon.

All this, this all comes down to what Christians are going to do in the next 20 or 30 years.

Now, didn't you actually directly quote Ronald Reagan when he said something like the most terrifying words that you can ever hear uttered are, we're here from the government and we're here to help or something?

Yeah, that's the phrase of Reagan. And look, that's the way the government works. The government never comes and says, hey, we're here. We're going to pass this law that's going to hurt you. No one ever does that.

They always come and say, well, this is for your own good. This is going to help everybody. That was the message that was presented in the 1960s during the Johnson administration, the war on poverty. We're going to implement the war on poverty for the poor.

That's the reason why they always offering free stuff. And who doesn't like free stuff? You're paid for and you're, you know, you're taken care of. But you're, look, I was in the projects at five years old.

And my parents probably came back from the Korean war, had lost his right leg, Pennsylvania, Korea, and come came back with us. But my parents wanted to get out of there. And that was the time before we had this.

Now that we have such a massive welfare state in there and children, you have more and more children.

Well, thank you, Joe. And make sure we get your full mailing address in Doylestown, Pennsylvania. So that's CVBBS .com, Cumberland Valley Bible Book Service can ship that free copy of Restoring the Foundation of Civilization by Gary DeMar off to you.

We have Laszlo in Carlisle, Pennsylvania. Based on exit polling, 76 of evangelicals voted for President Trump this year. This is a drop of three to 5 from 2016. It contributed to the president's losing the election.

The reason for this shift was generally claimed to be dissatisfaction with the president's personality and character, not with his policies. Were these, or I think he meant to say were, were these evangelicals like John Piper justified in abandoning the president?

My short answer? No. I'll give you an example. If someone comes up to you with sweet words, is very, very kind to you, and then he's a pickpocket, you say, well, wait a minute, I don't care how nice this guy sounded, he stole money from me.

And what you have to look at are Trump's policies. Why in the world would people vote for Biden and his policies when the guy, they're anti-Christian policies. I mean, if you look at Trump's record, I always ask people, what is it about Trump and his policies that you disagree with, that are out of accord compared to him?

He actually showed up personally. No other president had ever done that before. Because he had certain powers as president, he ended up cutting out funding for almost 900 abortion clinics across the United States.

Whatever Republican president had ever done that, if we're going to vote for Biden, Biden, who just automatically says on day one, when you don't understand, these people are insane. And the arguments that they were using, they're just, I don't know, I've lost people.

Now, John Piper did either one of them, and I wrote a pretty lengthy response to Biden's Americanvision .org, which, by the way, ended up getting 33 ,000 shares.

Yeah, I'm one of those people.

Yeah, I mean, I just read a lot of these arguments, didn't even have evangelicals for Biden. He could, Donald Trump. So you voted for the pickpocket. There's an interesting little scene, if you've ever seen the movie Casablanca.

Yes, right. They sound nice. Give me a break.

Okay, we have time for one more. By the way, Laszlo, you can pick up your copy of Restoring the Foundation of Civilization at CVBBS on North Hanover Street, since you live in Carlisle. So you can pick that up tomorrow when they open between 10 a .m. and 4 .30 p .m.

Grady, we have time for one last question. Grady from Asheboro, North Carolina. From what I understand, Howard Zinn, a communist, is responsible for the change of our country's history. They say he was responsible for writing the history textbooks used in our public schools.

Do you know if this is true?

Yeah, he has been involved in writing a lot by marrying our government schools. And one of them is Thanksgiving was when the Indians helped them, or Native Americans helped them. Of course, they thank God as well.

So there has been a lot of rewriting of history, and a lot of people have been duped by it. Just like we got duped by the media today, that about 93 to 95 percent regarding Trump was negative. He was a racist of immigration, he discriminated against.

And of course, they continually lie and misquote him about saying that there were fine people on both sides. And when he was talking about the monuments, whether they should be taken down or not, that's what he was talking about.

Yeah, I mean, these are really dishonest. Dishonest today is the book debunking Howard Zinn, exposing the fake history that turned a generation against America by Mary Graybar.

Yes, and remember, don't leave the R out of that name. It's very important. You get it, Graybar? Never mind. Well, Gary, we are out of time, and I wish we could have you back for two hours at some point.

But I know that your website is AmericanVision .org, AmericanVision .org, and people can look up more information about restoring the foundation of civilization there. And I want to thank Grady for sending in a great question again and give us your full mailing address in Asheboro, North Carolina.

So CVBBS .com can ship you out a free copy of the book. Thanks, Gary. And I look forward to you returning to Iron Trip and Zion Radio very soon and very frequently.

Thank you.

God bless. And if anybody would like to join us on the air with a question for our second guest, send it in to ChrisArnzen at gmail .com, ChrisArnzen at gmail .com. Our second guest today, if you didn't hear the opening of the program, is James Fryer, author of Battle Cry, Reflections for Soul, Readiness, and the Defense of the Gospel, In and Out of Season.

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