March 31, 2017 Show with James N. Anderson on “Why Should I Believe Christianity?” PLUS Buz Taylor on “Postmillenialism & the Modern Prophecy Movement”

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In studio with me is my co-host the Reverend Buzz Taylor. Hello once again. And I am so delighted to have on the program today for the very first time a Dr. James N. Anderson. Dr. Anderson is an ordained minister in the Associate Reformed Presbyterian Church and he came to Reform Theological Seminary from Edinburgh, Scotland, and specializes in philosophical theology, religious epistemology, and Christian apologetics.

His doctoral theses at the University of Edinburgh explored the paradoxical nature of certain Christian doctrines and the implications for the rationality of the Christian faith. His research and writing has also focused on the presuppositionalism of Cornelius Fantel, particularly his advocacy of the transcendental argument.

Dr. Anderson has a long-standing concern to bring the Reformed theological tradition into greater dialogue with contemporary analytic philosophy. Before studying philosophy, Dr. Anderson also earned a PhD in computer simulation from the University of Edinburgh.

He is a member of the Society of Christian Philosophers, the British Society for the Philosophy of Religion, and the Evangelical Philosophical Society. Prior to joining RTS in Charlotte, North Carolina, Dr. Anderson served as an assistant pastor at the historic Charlotte Chapel in Edinburgh, where he engaged in regular preaching, teaching, and pastoral ministry.

He is active now in service at the Ballantyne Presbyterian Church in Charlotte, North Carolina, and he is married to Catriona and they have three children, and it's my honor and privilege to welcome you to Iron Sharpens Iron for the very first time ever, Dr. James N. Anderson.

Thank you so much, Chris, great to be here. And I apologized if I mispronounced anything.

Well, I was wondering about that, Edinburgh. No, that's the way, isn't it the way the.

Scots, pretty close, isn't that how they pronounce it? That's right, yeah, Edinburgh. Yeah, wow, I stand corrected. What did you think it was, Edinburgh? That's the way that they actually, there's a city in Indiana spelled exactly the same way, and it's Edinburgh.

I heard that Scotty in.

Star Trek didn't really have a Scotch accent, that was all just part of his acting, and I was thinking that you were doing a pretty good job if you were.

Doing the same thing. And is it Catriona, did I pronounce your wife's name.

Correctly? It's pretty close, but she tells me that even I don't pronounce it.

Right. That's interesting. Well, before we even go into the discussion at hand, I want to hear more about you, about your upbringing as a child, what religion was in your home, if any, and how providentially our Sovereign Lord drew you to himself, and how you embraced the true Christ and true gospel of the.

Scriptures. Yeah, I would love to share that with you. So I was blessed to be raised in a Christian home. On my mother's side, strong evangelical family. Her parents, my grandfather, who I never knew, and my grandmother were both evangelical Anglicans, so I had that background on my mother's side.

My mother's always been a nominal Church, but my father, when he married my mother, really came to embrace personal Christian faith. And so, and we, in the early part of my childhood, wishy-washy, moralistic, evangelical Baptist Church in a nearby town, and that's where I really became, I think, conscious of my teenage years.

I could answer Apology 101, I could give up Christ in Luke 11, 23, he who is not for me. No middle way in my life. I've come ups and downs for many, many believers. The first two years, I went to the University.

They grabbed me by the scruff of the neck, took me to evangelical Baptist Church, and that was transformative to me, and really set me on a path, once and for all, to Christian ministry, where I am today.

You know, your bio says something fascinating about your heartfelt desire to see a Reformed theology really become a part of a dialogue with contemporary analytic philosophy. If you could give us more of concrete examples of.

What you mean by that. Sure, yeah. Well, it's a way of metaphysics, the ultimate nature of reality, epistemology, how we know what we... It's a way of approaching these questions that is very system, wants to precision in logical form and in the vocabulary used, and the analytic philosophy tradition isn't distinctively Christian.

I mean, there are Arminians of some strata, many of them have evangelical convictions in the broad sense, but I've always felt it's what I'm getting at is a robust conviction. Now, you're also an ordained minister, as I.

Mentioned, in the ARP, which is the Associate Reformed Presbyterian Church.

Can you tell us something about that denomination? Yeah, that is a denomination here in the United States. It's concentrated mainly in the Carolinas, but we have Presbyterians down in Florida. In the 18th century, there were two of the mainline another group, when they got here, had in common and had joined together in four...

Yes, I have some friends who are a part of the ARP, Cy Tenbruggenkate, I'm.

Not sure if you're familiar with him. He's a presuppositionalist apologist up in Canada. He is a part of one of your Canadian congregations in Toronto, I believe. Okay. And I know that Dr. Sinclair Ferguson, while he was still here in the States, in South Carolina, he was pastoring an ARP Church.

Yep. And a man who I hold very near and dear to my heart, who is a great blessing to me during a dark period of my life, is Pastor Lawrence C. Young, who is the of the Brookside ARP Church in Boone, North Carolina.

I happened to be in Boone, North Carolina years ago when I had lapsed into a serious abuse of alcohol and went to a ministry there in Boone called Hebron Colony, which I highly recommend to everybody who either themselves has an addiction to the sin of alcoholism or if you have someone that you love or know someone very close that has that problem, I highly recommend that ministry, Hebron Colony Ministries in Boone, North Carolina.

But Pastor Larry was the only Reformed pastor in the nearby area and he would come and visit me while I was there and it was just, it was an enormous blessing with importance that is too great for me to even describe in words.

He may just view them as very simple visitations but they were very meaningful to me and I'm so glad that we have maintained a long-distance friendship to this day. I'm not actually gonna give Pastor Larry a plug, his website is boonebrooksidechurch .org that's boonebrooksidechurch .org and that is for the Brookside Associate Reformed Presbyterian Church in Boone, North Carolina.

Well what led you to write this book Why Should I Believe Christianity? There are other many other apologetic books meant not only for unbelievers but meant to equip Christians to evangelize unbelievers.

Why did you see this as a needed addition to those many other volumes already on the shelves of Christian libraries? Yeah.

That's a good question. A friend of mine would approach me looking for someone to edit or to co-edit a series of apologetics books and around 10 to 12 in number and these apologetics books were easy to understand, avoiding Christian jargon, anxiety, whether that be, and so I did a little bit of and family members to find out what some of these questions would be and I was trying to gather.

We drew up a sketch, issues like why does God, but we wanted one that was a lot of detail but basically making a positive case for Christian apologetics, but also I felt that while there are as Christianity in quite the way that I thought it ought to be made and in a way that were believers or a hand that you could literally.

Excellent. I want to give our listeners.

Our email address right now if you'd like to join us on the air with a question of your own for Dr. James N. Anderson. The email address is ChrisArnzen at gmail .com. C-H-R-I-S-A-R-N-Z-E-N at gmail .com.

ChrisArnzen at gmail .com. Please give us your first name at least, your city and state of residence, and your country of residence if you live outside of the USA. I want to before I even start asking you questions about this book, I want to read a couple of glowing commendations for this book that have been written by two men that have been guests on Iron Sharpens Iron radio in the past.

R. Albert Moeller Jr. who is president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Kentucky. He says of this book, Why Should I Believe Christianity? by our guest James N. Anderson. In a post-Christian age the need for faithful theologically rich apologetic resources has never been more important.

Indeed it could be argued that the task of apologetics has never been more pressing or more urgent. This is a critical time of cultural and intellectual transition. The Christian ministry taken as a whole must be understood as an apologetic calling.

This is why books like Why Should I Believe Christianity deserve careful reading by pastors and lay people alike. In this book believers will find a compelling defense of the Christian worldview and the resources necessary to stand firm in a faithful and a faithless age.

And as I said that was Dr. R. Albert Moeller and also someone else who has been a guest on this program several times, Dr. Michael J. Kruger, president and professor of New Testament at Reform Theological Seminary in Charlotte, North Carolina, who was actually a pastoral intern years ago when he was still a Reformed Baptist at the church where I am now a member, Grace Baptist Church of Carlisle, Pennsylvania.

But Dr. Kruger says in a world filled with skepticism, relativism, and secular dogmatism it is easy to doubt what we believe. Is Christianity really true? In this fantastic book James Anderson offers one of the clearest and most compelling explanations for the truth of Christianity that I have ever heard.

You will be reassured and strengthened by this book. Read it multiple times, then give it to a friend. That's a pretty powerful commendation by Dr. Michael J. Kruger, quite a brilliant scholar in his own right.

Presuppositional and Evidential Apologetics Together

And well you know something, I am going to take a couple of listener questions since we've already got quite a number of them that have quickly come in. I'm going to start with a listener who is actually in your neck of the woods in North Carolina, Casey, who is originally from the Philippines, who is now in Kannapolis, North Carolina.

He says, I have a very important question for Dr. Anderson. How can we use both evidential and presuppositional apologetics together and use both of their strengths to defend the faith and preach the gospel?

Why does it have to be an either or some reformed presuppositionalism, advocates trash talk, any kind of evidence sharing? Can't we use evidence and presuppositionalism both? Well I think that you would agree that presuppositionalists do use evidence, but.

If you could comment. Yeah, yeah, I'd be glad to, and that's a great question, important question about apologetic method, and certainly we don't want to be more restrictive in our method than we have to be.

Why would we cut off one hand? I regard myself as a presuppositionalist. I've been very much influenced. My starting point for analyzing unbelief is analyzing unbelieving presuppositions, the assumptions that lie behind the surface comments, and doing an internal critique of the unbelievers world.

Everyone has presuppositions, and there has to be a sort of head and we can we can examine each by considering their presupposition. Now where does evidence come from? Oh yes, in fact, I think a presuppositionalist wants to say, or ought to say, that everything God is a God-created, God-directed universe, then there is nothing but, and you can actually approach that in a presuppositionalist way by our ability to comprehend and use evidence.

You have evidences, and scientific facts can be incorporated into a presuppositional method, as long as you recognize that evidences don't speak for themselves, and that people, so while I'll be happy to use evidence to use evidence fine-tuning of the universe in a naturalistic framework or some other kind of, then they're going to be re-into that.

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Romans 1, Human Suppression of Truth, and Self-Deception

Going back to something about what you were just saying about presuppositionalism, I know that a lot of presuppositionalism is weighted in the truth that is revealed in Romans 1, about how nature is even sufficient to reveal to man the truth that God exists and holds him accountable, although we need special revelations still to know the gospel and so forth and other things that are vital to salvation in the Christian life.

But when the Romans 1, when Paul, the inspired author of Romans 1, tells us that all men know the truth and suppress it, does that mean, like for instance, there is an old saying, there's no atheists and foxholes.

Does that mean that there is literally a conscious battle going on in the minds of those who reject God that we, not being mind readers, cannot necessarily know? Like for instance, I did an interview not long ago with Dr. Larry Taunton, or Larry Taunton, who is the author of The Faith of Christopher Hitchens, when he basically was just discussing his friendship with the atheist who died as an atheist, went directly to the grave knowing that he was dying of esophageal cancer and never repented and never came to faith in Christ in spite of the fact that he had friends who were Christians regularly evangelizing him and teaching him the gospel and debating him, as Larry Taunton had done.

But was Christopher Hitchens, does that word from Paul in Romans 1, does that teach us that he actually consciously knew even to the point of death that he was rejecting the truth, or when Paul says that we run away from that truth, when we suppress that truth is really what he says, can people forget after decades of rebellion what this truth is?

I don't.

Know if I made sense there, I was rambling a lot. No, I understand the question. Well, the way I approach it is, if I'm thinking about how should I understand the unbeliever and the claim of an atheist, my starting point is going to be what is the Bible, and the unbeliever is not God, and may not speak truly or may be confused about some really deep matters.

So I ask the question, what does, in my view, so that the unbeliever internally, at some level, does have knowledge, does there is that, but the complex dynamic of any strife to delineate many years ago on the issue of self-deception, and what it means to be self-deceived, and he applied that to the question of whether belief arguments or evidence, and that leads to quite psychological recognition, because there are going to be again, and that's I think somewhat like the recognition, maybe as far as they're concerned, quite sincere in their belief, but we, I think, have to insist that while they may be and that God knows.

Cornelius Van Til, Greg Bonson, and Gordon Clark on Presuppositional Apologetics

Well, I know that my co-host, Reverend Buzz Taylor, lit up like.

A Christmas tree when you mentioned Greg Bonson, because he is Buzz's most beloved hero of the 20th century, I believe. Well, one of them, definitely, but actually even.

Before you said Greg Bonson, you said Cornelius Van Til, and I'm sure that there are a lot of our listeners who have no idea who you're talking about or what they believe, so could you just briefly introduce us?

Yes, if you.

Could do that, Dr. Anderson, when we come back from a break, because we have to go to a break, we're already four minutes past when we should have gone to one, but I wouldn't dare stop you where you were.

So we're gonna go to a break right now and we'll have Dr. Anderson answer Reverend Buzz's question, and also if you'd like to join us with a question of your own, those of you listening, our email address is ChrisArnson at gmail .com.

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Because everyone needs a pastor. Welcome back. This is Chris Arnzen. If you just tuned us in, our guest today for the first 90 minutes of the broadcast is Dr. James N. Anderson, specialist in philosophical theology, religious epistemology, and Christian apologetics at Reform Theological Seminary, and we are discussing his book, Why Should I Believe Christianity?

If you'd like to join us on the air, our email address is chrisarnzen at gmail .com, chrisarnzen at gmail .com, and I thank all of you who are still waiting for your questions to be asked and answered for your patience.

We will get to you as soon as we can, but before we do, Reverend Buzz Taylor wanted you to introduce to our audience Cornelius Van Til and Greg Bonson, since their names are really synonymous with presuppositional theology or apologetics.

If you could. Sure. Yeah, I'd be glad to. So Cornelius Van Til was a pioneer of what is now called presuppositional apologetics, although he would have claimed that he was one of the founding faculty members of and his approach was of methods of a generic evidentialist is the idea that is neutral and that you can use those as a starting point to build a case for Christianity that we trust will persuade any, and Van Til had a number of issues with that.

One was the idea that there could be any such thing as evidence that are just given. He argued that while there are suppositions of use evidences, you can appeal to a neutral starting point. Believers, and you have to actually, you can't make sense of evidence or anything else, whereas the belief behind transcendental argument is that you need to make moral judge, moral universe, and to make, in many respects, a very pioneering approach.

Exactly Van Til's, you have different, but in my view, they're all hitting on the same core insight, namely, that only can make.

Now, not to belabor the issue of historical figures connected with apologetics, but how does Gordon Clark fit into this mix? Because I realized there was a parting of ways between Dr. Clark and.

Dr. Van Til. Yeah, so, Gordon Clark was an American, and he is regarded as a presuppositionalist as well, and he is in the sense that his method in apologetics focused on the presuppositions of the unbeliever.

He was much more negative about the use of evidence. In fact, on my reading, he denied the reliability of sense experience altogether. He was an anti-empiricist. So, you can imagine that your method in apologetic evidences, but his worldviews was a little different.

Some engaged to defend that world. That is, he basically had any intent, the Christian world, logically, and that leads to a somewhat engaged in it. Well, thank you, and we do have.

Christianity, Islam, and the Uniqueness of Jesus

A question from a listener in Bakersfield, California, Daniel, who says, I have been in conversations where the other person starts to put Christianity on the shelf with every other religion out there.

They make the case that they are all the same. What is a compelling argument that you would give for the uniqueness of Christianity among other world religions?

Yeah, well, we do encounter that a lot in our day, don't we? And that's part of it. We find ourselves on a shelf, like some of you like screws, some of you like crosses, just pull it off, and whatever suits you.

The main problem with that, that we need to correct, is that it shows claims of these, denying all of them by their own lights, because Christians themselves cannot cannot accept claims of Islam, and the same goes for a Muslim.

A Muslim, by his own commitments, cannot accept, denies some of them. So, really what we need to do first, educate people about what the major claims are. In fact, in my book, I just use one simple example.

I say, Christianity and Islam make contradictory claims about Jesus. Christianity claims that Jesus is the divine incarnate son of God, who died on the cross, and denies every point of that. It teaches that Jesus was a miracle, and therefore he was a God.

One of the fundamental points of Christian faith, is that Islam denies them, and so it makes no logical sense. It doesn't really matter. And you find that their conception of God is fundamentally different than Christianity.

Christianity teaches that there is an absolute, transcendent, personal creation that exists in three persons, but that's essential, whereas Eastern religion is often—and again, these are matters of self-interest.

Yes.

I can remember years ago on the old Iron Sharpens Iron radio program that I hosted out of two radio stations in New York, when I had a debate, a live debate between a Muslim and a Christian apologist on my program, and they were both with me in the studio, and I asked the Muslim debater, I said, the Roman Catholic catechism says that Catholics and Muslims adore the one true God.

I said to him, do you actually adore the same God as Roman Catholics or Christianity in general? He said, absolutely not. So obviously that claim of the Roman Catholic catechism, the modern catechism, is utterly false, that they, together with the Muslims, adore the same one true God.

It's nonsense. They do not worship a Trinitarian God, and all the things that you said attest to the fact that they have a different God. But we have to go to another break right now, and by the way, Daniel, in Bakersfield, California, you've also won a free copy of Why Should I Believe Christianity, so make sure we have your full mailing address.

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