March 17, 2020 Show with Stuart Quint, Greg Bentley, & Mike Gendron on “Friends Pay Tribute to the Late Richard Bennett (3/10/38-9/23/19)”

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Wishing you all a happy Tuesday on this st. Patrick's Day 2020 March 17th and Today is it a very appropriate date? To pay tribute to a very dear friend of mine and a very dear friend of the guests that I'm going to be interviewing today.

Today we are paying tribute to the late Richard Bennett. Richard Bennett who was a founder of Berean beacon, which is a ministry primarily to spread the gospel of Jesus Christ. But secondarily to open the eyes of Roman Catholics who are believing and trusting in a false gospel.

And Richard had been used and continues to be used even after his entering glory with Christ. To be used as a vessel and a vehicle to draw many lost souls to salvation in Christ. Richard Bennett was born on March 10th 1938 and when home to be with the Lord last year on September 23rd, it's 2019 he was a son of Ireland a former Catholic priest a reformed Baptist evangelist and an ambassador for Christ at Berean beacon org the ministry he founded and I just want to before I introduce you to my guests.

I Want to read to you? something that I actually wrote in tribute to Richard Bennett before he went home to the Lord and then I was honored to To have been asked permission For Berean beacon or should I say from Berean beacon? to use these words that I wrote as a part of his obituary on the Berean beacon website.

But here is what I had to say about Richard. Richard was an extremely rare Individual especially in the 21st century. He busy he possessed the character traits that are nearly impossible to find in our day all Combined together in the heart and mind of one man.

Those traits included an unwavering passion and determination to boldly proclaim the undiluted truth of Jesus Christ his gospel and his word To boldly expose the cunning and damning deceptions of Christ's disguised enemies.

All this was pouring out from the palpably humble meek tender compassionate and loving heart of a gentle servant who would much rather see the never-dying souls of men women and children spared from the torments of an eternal hell than spared from temporarily hurt feelings troubled consciences and Sleepless nights when Richard's words offended.

It was the gospel itself flowing from his speech that cuts his hearers not anything ad hominem or unnecessarily offensive that sadly all too often accompanies the bold words of bold men whose egos tarnish any good they are seeking to accomplish.

And I was as I said honored that Berean beacon chose to use those words written prior to Richard's home going to eternity as there as a part of their obituary on the Berean beacon website on September 23rd 2019.

Well, as I said, we are going to have some friends of Richard Bennett. Join us. Today to pay tribute to this dear saint. First of all, we have a Stuart Quint coordinator of international translations of Berean beacon and Let me let me welcome you for the very first time ever to iron sharpens iron radio.

Stuart Quint.

Thank You Chris.

We have Greg Bentley who is the director of Berean beacon? It's great to have you also for the first time on iron sharpens iron radio Greg. Well, thank you very much Chris and we I don't know if he's joined us yet.

But Mike Gendron is supposed to be with us. Is Mike of the founder of proclaiming the gospel with us. Yes, Chris. Thanks for having me. Yeah. Thanks for joining us Mike, and I'm going to let our listeners have our email address.

In the event that they would like to join us on the air with their own questions. The email address is Chris Arnson at gmail .com. See HR is a RN z en at gmail .com and please Give us your first name your city and state in your country of residence if you live outside of the USA.

Well, first of all, let me have a Stuart Quint start off as I said, he's the coordinator of international translations for Berean beacon the ministry founded by the late Richard Bennett and Stuart. First of all Let me let me say to all of you If you would like to chime in at any time, you don't have to wait for me to call upon you.

This sometimes can be difficult conducting a radios program when we're not all in the same studio. When so because I can't see people's facial expressions, I can't see anybody waving their hand. So I would like Anybody when they see an open moment?

To jump in to the discussion with your own thoughts comments. I will call upon you each individually as well, but don't wait only for that and if you could identify Yourself every time you you chime in just you just give your first name or actually give your full name would be better and.

And then we'll know who is speaking but Stuart tell us. First of all about Richard Bennett's His his testimony, I know that he was a Roman Catholic priest and I believe he was serving in Trinidad, am I right?

Correct. And he was in an automobile accident. I might have been a Jeep. I can't remember the vehicle. He was driving but he was in an automobile accident and it was when he was Laid up recovering from his injuries that he came to Christ.

Am I correct on that a little bit different.

He was actually walking up a huge flight of Steps outside when he was in Trinidad and he fell down and he damaged his back severely. And that that led to period. It was actually several years. I mean he he went, you know.

He went through the the read before he went on to eternity that Richard suffered from that injury. But just to use that to point him to the cross the point of the true gospel of Jesus Christ. I.

Have no idea whether the car accident came into my mind. Was he ever in a car accident?

Richard's done so many different things. He was I don't know about a car accident. I know one time he was Beaten that in fact, I think Greg you were with him if I'm not mistaken in Peru.

He was knocked out for and I have a feeling this is Greg Bentley speaking, right?

Right, yeah, this is Greg. I'm up. That's all right. Continue and.

Yeah, and then he were. We were jumped on a street and the Richard was knocked out. I don't jumped in the street. I got these. Right, yeah, we never really could identify who the people.

Great. And going back to his own conversion While he was a Roman Catholic priest recovering from that injury you mentioned falling down a staircase and Perhaps Stuart you can chime in first. What was it that was troubling his heart about his Roman Catholic faith and his office as so-called priest that eventually led to his fleeing from Rome and Embracing Christ and his work on Calvary as his only hope for salvation.

What was it that troubled him and mine and was that? Troubled conscious something that began before the accident even occurred. Yeah, Chris. That's a very good question.

I would say definitely looking back and I'm taking them several conversations with him. He also has he as well. Forehand, I think when you look, you know, it's interesting what what Mike Gendron said about the funeral.

What really struck me was you could see actually some pill. Richard was a very die-hard Catholic. I remember him talking about. You know taking cold showers Outside to try to free soul. Latitude is Moscow.

Some of the other things that he described in his life. Even before he actually entered the you know entered I think he had he would say that he had a sense of God a sense of what the you know the works that the deadness of the Roman Catholic Church all these mediators him a priest and.

And the action was more you look back, right? It was more of an event that that shocked him to really take a timeout think things through. But I think he would say that even before that there were seeds planted where he recognized there's something wrong.

I mean the priest hatch match dispatch. That is somebody before they die anointing them with oil and hopefully today. He recognized there's an emptiness in it. There was no. There's not only no paternal permanence minimize the work of Christ was simply in source.

You know the rights of the Roman Catholic Church say that that while the accident was turned on to that time he did a lot of reading in the scriptures which he'd be the first tell you that they don't really study the holy scriptures in.

Certainly when he studied in the Roman Catholic Seminary, he also studied at the Vatican. He was at the Aquinas. You know university training to become a professor in the Roman Catholic Church. That's another story.

Why he didn't ended up not doing that but the contact with the whole now do any of you know?

Yeah, great.

Yeah, I just wanted to chime in a little bit because now I don't know which one of you would be best to answer this.

But Whoever it is the the first one to chime up, but please identify yourself. But I know that that Richard very often preached at churches that shared his convictions against Roman Catholicism but sometimes they did not share his convictions about the Reformed faith and I was wondering How Richard actually became a believer in the doctrines of sovereign grace That salvation is truly by Christ alone from beginning to end and That God's sovereignty is in control of all things in heaven and on earth.

I.

Can I remember.

Having to hold back a laugh a couple of times because sometimes I would be in the audience or amongst the congregation at Events that were held by non Calvinistic non-reformed fundamentalist churches and Richard would be very bold Criticizing the altar call which is something that nearly every fundamentalist church that I'm aware of practices.

And I could still remember him saying what's this nonsense about going forward at the church and Inviting Jesus into your hearts. I invited Jesus into my heart my mouth and my stomach and that never saved me.

He was talking about the Eucharist obviously as a Roman Catholic.

Wow now there was one point early on in my friendship with Richard which began in the.

1990s.

And I first met him face-to-face at New Hyde Park Baptist Church in Nassau County, Long Island when my friend Rich Wozniak Had been instrumental in inviting Richard to speak there. Richard was Rich Wozniak was a member of New Hyde Park Baptist Church at the time before he moved to, Pennsylvania.

And At that time I can recall Richard saying that his family in Ireland were still not speaking with him since his abandoning Rome for the true gospel of Jesus Christ and the true Church of Christ. And I was wondering Did he ever reconcile in any way or did his family ever reconcile with him?

Before he went home to glory, I have a fuzzy memory of Something like that occurring, but I'm not not a hundred percent confident about it.

He, Richard had some reconciliation with some of his siblings. One thing that I hinted about in my opening remarks the words that I wrote that.

Berean Beacon used as a part of their obituary for Richard. You could never get the idea No matter how boldly Richard Was preaching the gospel and telling people warning people Urging people to repent of their idolatry and of their superstition and their false Theology as a member of the Church of Rome.

You could never get the idea that he was saying this from a heart of arrogance of Self-righteousness of Bigotry of Mockery you always could sense very palpably that this man had a heart for The people that he once claimed as his own the Roman Catholics.

He had a heart to see them rescued from their damning delusions. And if if any of you could comment To add to this about this this very key Manner in which the gospel should be proclaimed to the lost.

That is that is something that I know that I very often fail to do. I and some of my greatest heroes In the Christian Church have failed to do especially perhaps in the world of apologetics. They can boldly Proclaim the falsehoods or should I say boldly denounce and Expose and refute the falsehoods of those in false religions, but very often it is not done with the meekness and the gentleness and The compassion the the oozing compassion that flowed from Richard when he preached.

That is a missing element in many of our lives Who seek to with good motives most of the time? Warn our loved ones or even strangers about false teaching. But but isn't that something that we should all be seeking to imitate that that when we're preaching boldly the truth we have to Be coming from a heart of love and compassion and humility.

Amen. I this is Stuart I.

Just throw in there really quickly as well that though. He primarily focused on people obvious reason I mean for instance He really wanted to have and we have he wanted to share the gospel with anybody.

But he he's interested in Greek or Eastern Orthodox people for example. I remember him talking telling stories about Muslim people about really he did not care that that God would all creation to all kinds of people.

Happens to be that he just came out of Roman Catholic background so naturally he's going to write and do more videos about that. But totally agree with you know his is that he would tell you that the only way you can really share the gospel with somebody especially for grace because How do you understand then the you know that Christ did it all and it's only in Christ.

How do you understand the depravity of man? You can't do that if man can take 1 of it. Praise God.

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I had interviewed Richard Bennett on several occasions on st. Patrick's Day to talk about the true Patrick of Ireland not the Patrick of superstition and folklore or the St. Patrick of Roman Catholic piety.

St. Patrick was not a Roman Catholic. There is very clear historic evidence That he was a Christian even before there was this was such a thing as Roman Catholicism. Although the obviously our Roman Catholic friends would insist Jesus Christ himself founded the Roman Catholic Church.

That is obviously something impossible to prove Not only from Scripture but even from history but it was the favorite topic of of Richard Bennett being a son of Ireland himself and He loved to talk about the true Patrick of Ireland, so I thought this was a very appropriate day To celebrate the life and legacy of Richard Bennett today if you'd like to join us on the air for the question of your own or even a comment a Story or what have you our email address is Chris Arnzen at gmail .com.

Chris Arnzen at gmail .com now. I understand that everyone on this show today is a former Roman Catholic that would include me. And I'd like each of you We'll start with Stuart again To tell our listeners Why this is such an important topic to?

Warn Everyone about the dangers and deceptions About the idolatry and superstition and false teaching false doctrine false dogma and false gospel of Rome. When in our day and age and this is not nothing new really, but it's especially Prevalent in our day and age people view the differences between Roman Catholicism and Protestantism or evangelicalism.

They view them as very superficial tertiary Kind of differences they will say well, what's the what's the real big deal they have Priests who don't get married we have ministers who have wives and children the their Priests wear robes and our ministers wear business suits and or today they wear t-shirts and skinny jeans and sneakers and You know, they really don't understand the magnitude the chasm of difference and if you could start with yourself Stuart.

And even if you want to bring in a part of your own testimony and how Richard Bennett made even more clear these vast differences between Roman Catholicism and biblical Christianity.

Hi Chris. So Wow, there's a lot of that question. I would just start out with that. I think I think about John 14 through me. You know a lot of thing to be quite. They pretend to be the gospel and you know I mean Mike Gendron said it before there's 1 .2 people who identify in some way with Roman Catholicism.

That's a lot of people in the world. The reality is that They don't believe in Jesus as he presents himself in the scriptures that includes the old and the new. You know, I I the Lord had saved me before.

I'd come to know Richard. But the way we met was actually you might have heard of a guy named Rick Warren. Certain evangelical circles and You know in You know They were. They were spinning Jesus in a way completely different than what you would see in the Holy Church.

On the internet that I Ran into this guy named Richard Bennett. A couple of articles about why the purpose-driven Life is not the gospel that that it.

And keep in mind folks. I just wanted to make it clear to our listeners. Rick Warren is not a Roman Catholic. He's a Southern Baptist. So this shows you how Richard although he might have Primarily focused on Roman Catholicism.

He also exposed the serious deadly and damning errors of Modern-day evangelicalism and Protestantism.

Amen to that and I just quickly add also by the way that Rick Warren would consider Roman Catholics and Eastern Orthodox.

Orthodox is his brothers and sisters. In fact, he considers Pope Francis his Pope.

Yes, which is a bit problematic to say the least but you know. It was through that through talking with Richard that it really helped me understand more sharply. You know not just the need for the gospel of the gospel.

The fact, you know that we redundancy is. We want to earn us and and so not only does God save us from the debt are likely to cry as Richard Bennett clearly was. So throwing Greg Bentley. I mean we. I remember we had a conversation about look if you really want to be out there.

You know and Richard reinforces as well the only true do the false gospel of grace because that it can't be 99 because I said you're what you're basically back to an evangelical form.

And of course.

There are multitudes of People who call themselves evangelicals who don't know the gospel either. They're just as lost as The Roman Catholics around them and one of the run of the reasons Why they don't view Roman Catholics as a mission field is because they don't really see much of a difference in The so-called gospel that they believe and the one that Roman Catholic Catholicism represents which and which is also another complicated issue.

Because you have very few Roman Catholics today Dogmatically teaching what the Church of Rome historically taught Time and time again. When I bring up the Council of Trent Condemning me and every other heir of the Protestant Reformation to hell and their anathemas against us.

Many if not, most Roman Catholics I speak to you don't even know what is taught in the Council of Trent and They if they do they don't even think it's relevant today because it's a 16th century Document that Was produced by that council, but I'm gonna have Greg Bentley chime in when we come back from our midway break.

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