Hebrews 2:5-8 Christ the Son of God became man.

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Tellin' me to dance, takin' a chance Welcome to the truth in love podcast.
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Thank you for joining us. We are finally back. We have been on a hiatus. We've had sickness, we have had time constraints, all kinds of different excuses that we've come up with both of us together.
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But it's, it's difficult sometimes. But the Lord has graciously allowed us to get back together.
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And we're we're back in Hebrews. We're going to try recording again, sticking with 30 minutes to the best of our ability.
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And we are in Hebrews chapter two, if you want to grab your Bible, follow along with us,
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Hebrews chapter two, and we're starting again in verse five. Another, just a quick recap or reminder of why we we transferred and went over to Hebrews is is because of well,
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Dan, Dan wanted to preach in Hebrews. Dan wanted to preach in Hebrews as good passage to go to, but but the author of Hebrews is pointing his audience, his
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Jewish converted to Christianity audience, that going back to the old system, the old covenant way, is, is death, is disastrous.
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It's not the right way to go. And Jesus is greater, better than anything else.
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So, so stick with him. And then also, because of the, the time in which he's writing, the time in which he lived, the author and the audience and, and these words, the close, the
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God, God closing this period or this age, the Bible uses that word language age of the old covenant is, is ending.
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And Jesus had told them, there's this time coming where the temple is going to be destroyed.
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The armies are going to surround Jerusalem. If you're in there, get out. If you're out there, don't come in.
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And so we've, we've talked about how this emphasis on not going back to the old system, not going back to the old covenant is much more magnified and much more important now that we add that bit of information.
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Anything else as far as introduction, Dan, you want to add to that? No, that was a good reminder to me of why we're doing this.
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It's been so while, so far, so, so long enough time. I forgot. I'm glad you reminded us.
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It has been a while. But if you're following along consecutively, then
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So where did we end? Give us a, give us a recap of, of Hebrews chapter two, verses one through four.
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Well, there were some lizard people and sorry, that was how
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I framed it in my sermon, which I still haven't seen a recording of.
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So if it's out there, I'm going to find it and let you realize I'm not a heretic or whatever.
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Yeah. We want to hear about the lizard people. Yeah. So in Hebrews two, one through four, we are, we're on the heels of hearing about Christ's supremacy as the son of God, him being
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God, him being the one who created the world, who upheld the world by the word of his power, a whole bunch of different passages brought out through the first chapter of Hebrews, all of them pointing to, you know, the angels were great.
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They brought us messages, revelation from God. They spoke to the prophets, the messages were delivered.
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They turned out to be right and true. And yet, um, they are not
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Christ. Christ is better. And since he's better, and since he has, uh, like it says in verse 14, uh, ministering spirits, uh, sent out to serve for the sake of those who are to inherit salvation, because even those amazing, wonderful, um, angelic messengers, since even they are just ministers of the
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Christ that we're talking about, since we now have heard from Christ in these last days, he came, lived among us, his apostles have spoken to us.
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He sent a spirit to bear witness of these things to us. Since all those things have happened, uh, we have to pay much closer attention to the message that Christ has given because the message that the angels brought was true.
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And every sin that they called out and said, here, there's going to be judgment. Those things happen.
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You think of all through the judges when they were warned, don't do this, don't do that. Don't go off and worship the bells and the
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Astorath and, and, uh, no, just don't do it. And yet here they did.
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They went off into left field and decided to, uh, to worship all sorts of things.
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And they were, they were taken away into a Syria, Babylon. Um, even the nations that had heard different, um, who had heard different warnings, they were called off.
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Uh, don't go, don't, don't do your thing. Don't worship false gods. And they were taken, carted off into, uh, different places.
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Uh, the writing on the hand, the handwriting on the wall and Daniel, um, he was sitting there, you know, just drinking it up, being a
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King that nobody can get me. And the handwriting on the wall came and said, you are, uh, you're done.
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Sure enough. They broke in through the sewer, got them.
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Um, next day, um, they're, uh, Daniel and his boys are serving Darius the
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Mede and not Belshazzar, you know, King of Babylon. And one night the whole empire fell.
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Um, all of these things foretold by God. Um, so if we neglect the salvation that Christ has come to tell us, what hope do we have?
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The answer is none. We have no hope. So especially since it wasn't just brought to us by Christ, but he also had signs and wonders and gifts of the
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Holy spirit. Um, things that we still even see today. Uh, whereas at,
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I was at a presbytery meeting and, um, I heard of, of a few children who were deathly ill.
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Nobody knew, none of the doctors knew what was wrong with them. Um, the churches got together, prayed for him for a long time and the children got better and better.
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Now they're, they're home living, living life. And the doctors came to the parents and said, Hey, um, the children must've just healed themselves.
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Children don't themselves, but we know somebody who does God. We even had someone who, uh, he done a lot of work with the
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Japanese people who, um, hadn't spoken Japanese a long time. Real rusty.
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Didn't think he could be able to do it. And he prayed and the Lord brought Japanese back to him.
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I don't know if that's speaking in tongues or not, but we're Presbyterian. So we're going to count it.
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It's, it's close. It's nothing else. The Holy spirit was working among people, give them power to do what
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God wanted to have done. It's a source of signs and seeing people save watching dead people come back to life like that is a, it's miracles.
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So all of those things, yeah. Um, we can't neglect that salvation that that was, that's a recap of verses one through four.
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Well, I'm just curious, those, those folks that were crawling through the sewers, is that where the lizard people come in?
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They saw them in the sewers? No, no, no. You'll have to give us a recap on that when, once the sermon comes up and we can, yeah, we can link, we can link to it.
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And, uh, everybody can be on the same page with the, with the lizard people. That's, that's pretty funny.
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Um, but it's interesting. You brought up that verse of how will we escape? I mean,
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I mean, listen to the words of this verse, how will we come off our reptilian overlords? Yeah.
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Or that, right. Uh, just so people don't, don't wonder. Um, I read the past.
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One of my old Testament passage was from Genesis three, where the serpent deceived Adam and Eve fell into sin.
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Everyone who sins is a slave to sin. You're of your father, the devil, right? Reptilian overlord, putting off a reptilian overlord.
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The only way is through Christ because he is the one who defeats the power of sin, death, and the devil. It's very catchy.
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That's clever. Very good. But, uh, going back to the, um, the introduction talking about while, while we're here and listen to this verse, how will we escape if we neglect so great the salvation?
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Yes, it's true. Yes, it's true. We're talking about justification. We're talking about salvation.
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We're talking about hell. We're, you know, we're talking about escaping God's wrath. If we, if we go back to the old covenant, the old ways, if we, um, we prove that we were never in Christ.
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Um, of course, but if we, if we reject Christ as Messiah, go back or go back to whatever, apart from Christ, how will we escape?
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We won't escape if we neglect so great a salvation, but keeping in mind what we were talking about, the, the both and interpretation that we're, we're going to get into.
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Um, and it's interesting how we were, we're thinking that God would have us interpret in, in light of this, this both and, um, scenario in, in so many different places, but yes, we're talking about salvation, but we're also talking about how this judgment upon Jerusalem against Israel, who once again rejected
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God's warning, rejected God's covenant, and then now has rejected God's Messiah.
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Right? Yeah. It's, it's, it's re it's really interesting the way that, that the, the author to the
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Hebrews, um, tackles the whole situation. He shows, excuse me.
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He shows the supremacy of Christ. Absolutely. But in the first chapter, uh, he talks about it by what we would think of as justification.
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My sins have been purified. There was a, there was a sin debt that I owed that can only be paid for by something pure and clean and holy.
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And that thing happened to be Christ Jesus who came and made purification for sin and then sat down at the right hand of the father.
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Now there's another aspect of salvation that people don't talk about as much, or there's several aspects of salvation.
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People don't talk about very much, but you get into that here in this next section in chapter two, and that is adoption because adoption is very much, it's just as much a part of salvation as justification is just as much as the penal substitutionary atonement.
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You also have adoption, which is, I believe the, the whole thing that ties together the whole chapter.
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And it, and it shows how adoption in this, in this case is a beautiful thing.
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Yeah. I think that we can't describe how wonderful it is and the implications of that adoption for, for us.
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Right. It's an amazing thing for us, between us and God, between us and fellow man, as we think of, uh, no, like, like my son, uh, the other day in a church, we were sitting there and after church, our, our church families has been great.
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They have little snacks and stuff after church. When we go out there and before I can even get out of the sanctuary, some of the dear old, not old ladies, senior saints who are there, um, they'll have a little plate out there with some goodies for the kids and the kids are sitting down eating and my son had a little thing that he couldn't get up enough for his fruit snacks or something.
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And so he just, he held, he held it up in the air. I said, excuse me, church family, can you help me?
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And it was great because he knew that that was his family. That's right.
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Because it's his church family. Praise the Lord. So yeah, it has implications for how we treat one another, but it all stems from Christ and his work.
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Yeah. Let's start in verse five. Sure. Now that we're there for, he did not subject to angels the world to come concerning which we are speaking.
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Um, that just, I mean, ties right into all that we just talked about. You know, angels were so important in delivering this word that's unalterable.
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Um, this world to come. We just talked about this old world, how will we neglect to escape?
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You know, this, if we neglect such great salvation, what's the salvation?
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This new world is coming. The old world is dying. It's going to be destroyed. It's new world's coming.
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Right. Yeah. It kind of goes into two levels. There's a, there's a new, the new world, the world to come, um, having to do a little bit with, with the new covenant age, but even further, um, with the, the new, uh, the fullness of the new heavens and the new earth when
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Christ returns. Um, cause it talks about a little bit later in verse eight and nine that we don't see all of these things completed yet, but we see
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Christ and Christ has completed, um, what he has come to do. So Christ is just awaiting for the consummation of his work as it works out in the world around us.
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Um, then, then all things will be, will be a perfect, but yeah.
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Um, I forgot I was going to say, go ahead. Well, this is,
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I mean, this is interesting. This, this reminds me of a passage in Matthew, um, just because of its similarity is in how it's stated, um, not in theology, but, but verse six says, but, but one has testified somewhere.
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I know we do this a lot and that versus somewhere. I just can't remember the reference. Yeah, exactly.
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It's somewhere in there. And, and he author of Hebrews does it here. Uh, but one has testified somewhere saying, uh, the reason it reminded me of Matthew is because going through the first part of Matthew, Matthew is, um, one of the things that he's, he's known for there is, is going back to the old
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Testament. See this, Jesus fulfilled it here. See this, this is, this was said, or, or, um, written or right.
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This happened to fulfill this. Yeah. And he was pretty specific about where to look for that passage.
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But I think it's, I think it's the last one. Um, the one about the root of Jesse, I think that's the one where he doesn't, he doesn't give a specific passage where he's quoting, you know, he's quoting from the old
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Testament. He's just not as specific as he was in the other, um, points that he made.
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And so have the same thing here. Someone testified somewhere, um, saying, and then we go to Psalm chapter eight, correct?
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Psalm eight. Yep. Psalm eight is, is something that I think we should look at.
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Um, well all the time, cause it's great. Psalms are wonderful. Um, but we should look at it to, to catch an idea of, of why he wanted to use this passage.
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Let me do this. I'm going to, um, pull it up, but I'm going to have to remove the background because it gets in the way the background, the cross never gets in the way.
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Well, it's, it's in the foreground and it's not in the way, but it does hinder us from reading the passage.
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So there goes that. So we'll get the graven image out of the way to read the word. All right. That's right. That's right.
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Okay. Let's do it. Uh, so here in Psalm eight, it starts off, uh,
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Oh Lord, our Lord, how majestic is your name and all the earth who have displayed your splendor above the heavens.
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This, this Psalm here is, is written in order to have
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David glorify God, to show off some of God's majesty, you know, tell why is
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God so great. Um, so he, um, first verse tells him why it's so great.
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Um, and then he starts in on, on examples, uh, chat or verse two from the mouth of infants and nursing babes, you've established strength because of your adversaries to make the enemy and the revenge will cease.
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So even the tiny ones are at his, um, they're, they're in view when
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God is doing his, his thing. Um, excuse me.
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So he moves on from there. Now, even the little ones will cry out and, and tell of the greatness of God.
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Um, he puts down their enemies. He makes the, the, the, those who are seeking to harm others cease.
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He protects the little, the, the poor, the, the ones who can't deal for themselves.
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Uh, verse three, it says, when I consider your heavens, he, he goes from looking at the goodness of God to looking at the creation of God.
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So it's provenance and it's creation. Uh, when I consider your heavens, the work of your fingers, the moon and the stars, which you have ordained.
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Now I look at the whole host of heaven. You've got moon and stars and nebula and all sorts of stuff.
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And what they saw was cool, but we've got like the, the, what's that new, we had the
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Hubble and it was great, but there's this new one. Um, and I forget what the
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James something telescope. Anyway. Um, they're saying that the, the pictures that they're taking are so clear.
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It's just proving portions of evolution, which I don't know how or why, or somebody may have just been saying that, but, uh, the pictures that I've seen are absolutely stunning, just amazing.
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And so when you think of all of that space, all of that grandeur, just out there, even if there's no one living there, all of that is to show this is the
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God who created all these magnificent things, these worlds that have never been seen. They're there declaring the glory of God.
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And yet here we are in verse four, what is man? This little speck on a rock in the middle of the, of the cosmos.
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What is man that you take thought of him? Why would you think about us?
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Little old me and the son of man that you care for him.
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Now phrase son of man should trigger something in in your head. If you've read the
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Bible a lot, son of man is found a first in the book of Daniel, but it's also fat and the son of man.
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And then the ancient of days talking about the son and the father, but you go on into the gospels and Jesus calls himself the, the, the, the son of man.
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That's right. It was one of the things that he called himself the most, if not the most, I think it was the most, but he referred to himself by the son of man that you care for him.
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Yeah. Now I still think that this is a part of creation, so it should in our, in our ear, you should think of Christ when you hear son of man, but I don't necessarily know if it's talking about him here in this instance or not.
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And here's why, when you look at this Psalm, same as when you look at this passage in Hebrews, it's almost like you need to do it with a 3d glasses or better yet.
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Um, you ever seen that movie national treasure and they're looking at the back of the map and he's got all those different colors on the spectacles.
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Benjamin Franklin glasses. Yeah. And you can pull up and the green one shows you one thing and the yellow one shows you another, and the blue one shows you another, and you mix them into purple and it shows you something else.
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Yeah. Each one shows you a different aspect of this fake picture. That's on the back of the declaration of independence that Nicholas Cage stole may have to go watch that movie again.
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A lot of fun. Um, but it's kind of like that here. If you are thinking only of creation and mankind, when you read through this passage, you're going to miss the grandeur of God here in this passage, the majesty of who
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God is, because you'll miss stuff like that, where it mentions the son of man, and it should absolutely trigger your mind to think of the
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Messiah Jesus who came and who, who thought of men like you and I was the son of man,
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Christ, the one who was cared for by God, the father. No, at the same time, if you only thinking of Christ, when you come down through here, you miss what is man that you thought of him.
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Do you think it's possible? That's what, that's what happened all throughout their history. Um, because as you're talking about that,
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I'm thinking about, um, how Christ has encountered with the leaders. He's like, you're, you're teachers.
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You're the great teachers of Israel and you don't see this. You don't know this.
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You should, you should know this in part. Yeah. And then there's little stuff that they should have known.
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I mean, like, uh, with the Sadducees, whose wife is it going to be? You're missing the point here.
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Yeah. Yeah. And I don't want you to lose your train of thought, but I also, I want to interject something here.
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And I'm curious if it will, how it will apply or if it will apply at all later on in the passage as we talk.
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But, um, looking at verse three and how you explain verse three, it just brought to mind, uh, what came up last night in the laborers podcast, because we were talking about, um, big jock.
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He asked, uh, Jeremy and I, the question, why does Satan, why is his main target the family?
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Why, why is it mankind? And why is it specifically the family? My response is, and this is why reading
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Psalm eight three and your explanation triggered because it reminded me of my response to that.
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Because I said, we know scripture says that the heavens declare the glory of God, right?
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However, Mars cannot love Jupiter. Mars cannot forgive
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Jupiter. Mankind was created in the image of God so that, so that we could, um, portray his characteristics, his, his beauty, his image.
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We could image him. And, um, and then marriage specifically, we're talking about the family marriage is supposed to represent
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Christ in the church. And so I think that's why Satan specifically targets mankind.
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And then specifically targets the family is because we are, we are image bearers. We can, we, we can do, we were created to do what
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God didn't create the, those other things to do, which is image, image him, right?
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So thanks for letting me interject that there. Yeah, no problem, man.
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Uh, so it goes on, uh, it says yet you have made him a little lower than, uh, this particular translation says,
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God, um, won't you mouse over that little, uh, right.
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Or the angels it's, uh, Elohim Elohim in Hebrew is, um,
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L means God Elohim is a plural for God. So you'd either be
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God or angels. Now, since it's, uh, quoted in, uh,
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I believe the Septuagint and then again, the Hebrews as angels, we're going to go with angels.
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Um, they're not necessarily wrong. Cause we call Elohim God and other places, nothing that brings out the
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Trinity and other places from, from the Hebrew, but not necessarily here. And you crown him with glory and majesty.
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Now who is it that, that, um, has glory and majesty in, in the world?
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Well, if you look back to creation, um, we were made in the image of God. We were, uh, there over all of the other creatures, like it says down here in, uh, in the next, uh, the next verse, uh, you make him to rule over the works of your hands.
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You've put all things under his feet. It even goes down there and names animals and, and, uh, verse seven, ox and sheep and, uh, beasts of the field and birds that have efficiency.
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All of those things were things that were that mankind was given dominion over in the garden before we fell.
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Um, so when those things are still showing Christ's majesty in the whole world, we should absolutely think of Christ.
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When we think of how we've, we've fallen and how we were given dominion over the earth and how we have, uh, in our fallen state.
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Now we are imperfectly and even mostly sinfully still trying to take dominion over the earth as, as men.
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Um, it shows a contrast, you know, why would God think of pathetic old little dust on a rock?
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Us, the ones who were given dominion over the beast, the field, the fish of the sea and the birds of the heavens.
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And yet why would God think of us? But that's not the point of the song.
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The point of the song is, Oh Lord, our Lord, how majestic is your name in all the earth? It's about God.
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So you have those two truths laid side by side over top of each other, you know, hidden in blue and red 3d glasses, uh, all making one 3d picture for us.
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And that picture is that whatever mankind is, Christ is
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Lord over him and will receive glory from him. So when we think back to our passage in Hebrews, you know, why would we neglect the salvation where God has looked down upon us, had pity on us and saved us from our sins, come and paid the penalty for our sins.
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If he has done that, there is no way that we can neglect the salvation brought to us by God.
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So when it says for it was not to angels that God subjected the world to come of which we are speaking, who is it that the world to come is subjected to again, two layers, because in first Corinthians six, three, we understand that we as, as men, um, one day we're going to judge the angels.
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Uh, we'll see in, in Roman, you want to, do you want to jump on that next layer in the, uh, in the next episode,
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I want to tease them, tease, tease away, Romans four 13 says that, uh, we are, we are heirs of the whole world.
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So these things are, are ours, but they're not ours because we deserve them.
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In fact, we definitely don't deserve them because of sin, but those things are ours because we have inherited them with Christ.
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So when it says now I'm putting everything in subjection to him at the last half of verse eight, you can look at that one of two ways.
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You can look at it as things being in subjection to him being mankind or him being
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Christ. Uh, he left nothing. I believe that's God. God left nothing outside of his control, but we can look back to creation.
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We can look to Christ. Um, and we don't see everything yet in subjection to him.
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But what do we see? We see Christ. We see him glorified high and lifted up seated at the right hand of the father in heaven.
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So we need to look at the layers of this thing, which is what we're going to do a little bit better next week.
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We'll look at the layers. We're going to look at it with a red lens and a blue lens. We'll see how is it that, that these things do apply to mankind, but how are they really, how is it just like in the song, this may have something to do with us, but this passage is not about us.
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We may be the beneficiaries of a lot of stuff that happens here in this passage. This passage is not about us.
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This passage is about Christ and his supremacy. Right. And as we'll see, um, this, this is not just about his salvation or not just about his glory only, but about how his glory is brought forth in salvation in terms of adoption.
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Now, how is it that Robert and Dan have any air in the consummated glorious world to come?
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Man, I don't deserve that. Um, so it'd be ridiculous to think
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I do, but what is the main point here? The main point is that Christ is supreme and since we can't neglect the salvation or we'll be lost and damned for eternity.
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We also remember that God has something very, very great for us in the future and that's only only through the blood of Christ who came and died for the sins of men who adopted us as children, who gave us, gave us
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God as our father and Christ as our brother. Uh, it's only through the work of Christ.
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So there's no boasting here. We are not David and all of the, all those other good things.
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Well, you, you basically, um, you basically gave us the gospel there. Um, I just wanted to include this really quick before we end up in the episode.
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Uh, you were talking about this before we got on, you were talking about how, um, understanding this passage in his correct balance keeps us from overemphasizing man, which, which people do.
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And that's why we're in the condition that we're in today. And in most cases, cause we overemphasize ourselves, but it's, it's easy to fall into that temptation because when you, when you read passages like this and you see what wonderful things we obtained, you, you begin to read all the other passages in light of yourself and how, how good
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God has blessed us. But then hopefully it's not about us. And I think this is, maybe this is one way that it does kind of point back to what
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I was talking about earlier and alluding to the labors podcast last night. Um, yes, yes, we are saved.
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God, God chose to, to save us though. Not only do we not deserve saving, we deserve, um, eternal punishment.
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We deserve to be annihilated, whatever, whatever his fitting judgment for us would be.
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That's what we deserve. Right. Um, separation from God, which would be a separation from our heavenly father.
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That's right. Um, it's, it's no, the opposite of adoption, um, forced emancipation,
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I guess. I don't know what that would be, but yeah, it'd be the opposite of adoption. Even that in scripture is a picture of salvation.
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Right. So, so why did he, if there's nothing good in and of ourselves within us, nothing worth saving within us, which is where a lot of people want to go with this.
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Why did he save us? Well, that's why the psalmist ends the way he ends
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Lord, our Lord, how majestic is your name, which side note, it makes me think about Tyler and every time that he prays, that's how he prays
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Lord, our Lord, how majestic is your name. That's how he begins his prayers. That's how he ended that song.
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He points back to the Lord. He saved us because of himself. He created us for himself.
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We failed. He's, he would be right in destroying us, separating us from himself, but that's not why he created us.
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So he's redeeming us so that we can fulfill what he created us to do, which is to bring him glory.
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And that's why it's not about ourselves. And we can't fall into that temptation about reading it about us.
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Right. And so yeah, go ahead. It'd be like a, like, like a kid who had absolutely nothing, who was, you know, down and out, um, being adopted by a very, very well -off family, a royalty family.
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And then just thinking that they were owed everything in the house.
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Yeah. Like, no, we're owed nothing, but our God is good. He's given us things.
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That's right. Sorry. I don't, I don't want to be blasphemous, but when you said that I was thinking about, is it, is it
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Mr. Robux? What's his name? Orphan Annie.
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Who's the guy that adopted her? I don't know. Somebody help me out there.
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What, what was the, what was his name? Orphan Annie and the other ten men was, was way before my time.
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Oh, well, Dan, I appreciate you sharing the gospel earlier that, that Christ, um, calls us to repentance and faith and, and, um, adopts, the father adopts us as, as sons and daughters because of what
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Christ did on the cross. So we, um, that call from Christ is to repent, put your faith and trust in him.
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Let me pray for us and we'll close out this week. We're going to record another one and we'll see you on the following week and talk about these different layers.
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Father, we thank you so much for who you are and, and not giving us what we deserve.
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We know that there are some that will be separated, but you've graciously, graciously chosen us and chosen others to be redeemed.
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And it's just as your, your word is unalterable.
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Your mercy is unfathomable. Thank God we just glory in it and we help us to live our lives in light of your unfathomable, unfathomable mercy.
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We, um, thank you for allowing us to get together tonight to examine your word.
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Thank you for bringing it alive. Thank you that your word came down and became flesh and took our place for what we deserved.
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We pray all these things in Jesus name. Amen. Thank you everybody for watching.
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