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Wishing you all a happy Friday during this last day

before 4th of July weekend July 1st 2022.

And I'm so thrilled to have an old friend of mine.

One of my longest lasting Christian friendships, which dates back

to The early 1990s has been with my my treasured friend

Vincent Sawyer formerly the pastor of Faith Baptist Church

of Corona Queens, New York and now currently the pastor of Victory Baptist Church of

Port Charlotte, Florida.

My friendship with Pastor Vinny dates back even prior to a

program I Helped a number of independent fundamentalist Baptist create in the

1990s on WMC a radio titled the fundamental Baptist Forum.

Which was quite an interesting mix of pastors who sometimes were

involved in heated disagreement with me, but interestingly enough with each other as well and

one of those brethren who always maintained a Truly

Christlike and gracious spirit.

I'm not saying that the others did not but the one that stands out as Being

one of the most humble men I have met in and out of independent fundamentalist Baptist

circles including my own reform Baptist circles.

Pastor Vinny stands out As a shining jewel and I'm not using

hyperbole here.

He is a man that I have never met anyone who knows Vinny who did not tell

me how much they love and admire him and Appreciate him for not only his biblical

literacy and his shepherds heart, but just being a truly humble and

gracious brother in Christ and.

I.

Will dare to Apply a quote from Charles Haddon Spurgeon

that he actually stated in regard to John Bunyan But

Wherever you prick Vinny Sawyer the Bible comes flowing out or something

to that Extent.

I'm not quoting perhaps Charles Spurgeon exactly in his statement on Bunyan, but I

think that that could be equally applied for you Vinny.

And today we are going to be addressing a Very important theme what the Bible

teaches about marriage a commitment to dedicate your home to Christ.

And it's my honor and privilege to welcome you back the iron sharpens iron radio my dear friend pastor Vincent Sawyer.

Thank you,

brother,

and I

really

appreciate

brothers

talk about the first amen.

But before we do that, let our listeners for the sake of our listeners who did not.

Hear you the last time you were on this program.

Let our listeners know about Victory Baptist Church of Port Charlotte, Florida.

Very good.

I will be glad to do that.

If any of our listeners are in the Southwest, Florida area

we are

a

you'll

find our church to be very helpful and Word of

God.

Praise God.

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We will be repeating that later on in the program.

Just out of curiosity Vinny before we go into the the subject of marriage

the use of the term Fundamentalist and fundamental Baptist and so on

seems to be a term that is fading in popularity

even amongst some of the most ardent supporters of the fundamentals of the faith just because

That word seems to communicate something that many pastors don't identify with.

I was just curious about you and your own vocabulary and your own identifying of your church.

I noticed you didn't use the word fundamental.

What are your thoughts on that?

I?

Believe that.

Stand for what we call the fundamentals of the faith and they are essential

doctrine.

We are not say fundamentals like the nature of Christ.

That he is the God man God who became mission blood

fundamentals like the virgin birth His substitute

salvation through faith alone in Christ alone.

These are what we call the fundamentals of the faith and every true child of God

would have Agreements here whether or not they call themselves.

There are other doctrine where believers will differ

and in those areas We should allow freedom to differ

like way.

I like what

Augustine's

were a fundamental and.

Well in regard to actually the popular use of that term seeming to be fading.

Would you understand why there are some churches that don't want to be viewed as somebody who is?

Condemning brethren in Christ over comparatively minor issues.

And that's often how those are viewed.

Fundamentals

are

so

they

make a

fundamental has negatively been used by the press.

Those for example With the mentalist Islamic

movement would be the radical wing Of that movement and many

associate the word fundamentalist

and I could be wrong.

But I think even the term fundamentalist Baptist was created by the press during

the fundamentalist Baptist controversy I mean the fundamentalist modernist controversy in the early part of the 20th century, isn't

that?

Aware the churches that are under that Description,

isn't that where they borrowed that term?

Enthusiastically.

Yeah, I think that People

mean that we

need to stand up and

together those

days.

Great.

Well, this is a very important subject.

We are addressing today Marriage and specifically what

the Bible teaches about marriage a Commitment to dedicate your home to Christ and

I hope that if you haven't already I'm speaking to our listeners right now.

Get on the phone or text or email all of your friends family and

loved ones.

Whether they are people who are engaged and entering into Marriage or their

newlyweds or their people who are struggling with a problematic marriage perhaps

even on the verge of a tragic divorce or Separation or what?

Have you I?

Would urge you to tell them to tune in to the iron sharpens iron radio program right now

during our interview with Vinny Sawyer and

Many of the compliments That I Adorned you who has at

the outset of this program.

Perhaps only with the exception of anything involving preaching.

Those compliments could easily be Said about your dear sweet godly

wife Terry.

And a more delightful and Christlike woman.

I cannot remember ever meeting.

Tell us how you and Terry met.

I remember when I began

pray that you'd lead somebody into

my life that loves you that

from

Indianapolis,

Indiana.

Before God would lead us

to get holding back

will of God and saying God whatever you want from me I'm willing to do it wherever you want me to go.

Whatever you want me to be I just want to do your will.

And when I finally came to that point Where

I had a role to

the

Lord,

that's when God

brought

me

men.

Well.

Any society as you know full well is only as strong as The families that

make it up.

Can you briefly describe how?

Family and marriage is under attack today.

Marriage is under attack when men and women

is in

enrolled as

it has been under

attack for a long time and I believe the institution of marriage

is what really makes a strong society.

But today we have couples rather than committing to marriage living together in

fornication.

Many want the benefits of marriage without the commitment of marriage.

But the Bible says in Hebrews 13 for that marriage is Honorable in all

in other words marriage is valuable in all cases.

And the bed Undefiled in other words the marriage bed or the sexual Relationship

within marriage is not impure.

It is not on it is not defiled.

But he says Hormonders are fornicators and adulterers.

God will judge and so it's under attack.

Sexually marriage is under attack in so many different ways.

As I said, even gender distinction is under attack today.

And when that go can't figure out if they're male

or female.

We've really got a sick society.

One thing I should probably interject to clarify something because

Liberals and leftists often Use Something

that is an unfortunate reality To distort what you and I are

saying today and what the Bible is saying the they will respond by saying oh

so if an unwed mother it has

children in her household or a widow Or someone whose

husband left her Is home raising children alone

that this isn't a family you're degrading these people and saying that this is not really

a family at all and I'm assuming you would respond that it is

Certainly a family.

But the ultimate design For a family is for a husband and wife to be

present.

Obviously, especially in the case of widowhood.

That cannot there can be no blame placed upon the woman or the

children from that marriage.

But so I just want to clarify because the leftists often Use that to

start Slandering what Christians are saying in this area.

We want to

try to

because of who

trains her

children

in Unrighteousness and doesn't have and

I take my to

teach our young people We really need to show them.

What is God that they could know what marriage ought to be like.

And we are we sir everyone even

if

they you

know

is

that

that is

monogamous relationship.

Freedom to do the ideal as

God designed.

Now obviously one of the core reasons why.

The biblical concept of a marriage Which every Christian

that is truly a Christian would say is the only design for a marriage the only true design.

One of the reasons why this is being attacked.

Is that many question whether or not the book of Genesis.

Genesis?

From which you are primarily taking your information during our interview today.

They question whether or not the book of Genesis can be taken at face value as a literal account of God's

Establishment of the home.

Can you address this?

Absolute rotation of the

creation account in Genesis and Of

got

to be taken

the

literal

cream

or

Jesus

answers

who came to him with a question He said on

the written

at the beginning made them male and female.

For this caught his father and mother and shall cleave to his wife and they

twain shall be one flesh.

Wherefore they are no more twain or two, but one flesh what therefore God hath

joined together.

Let not man the Genesis account

taking it very literally even verbatim quoting verse 24 of

chapter 2 that what God

Continues that way 1st

Corinthians

11 and again

He said he says for the man is not of the woman but the woman

of the man in other words God did not create the man from the woman, but he

created the woman from the man.

So he takes Genesis 2 21 very literal verse 9 Paul was the man created

for the woman but the woman for the man and again That's

Genesis 2 18.

So he's taking it very literally and even showing us right down to a

couple of prepositions the the literal interpretation

of that text he also in 1st Timothy 2 in verse 13 says for

Adam and Then he and he says that

Adam was not deceived.

Being deceived within the transgression, so he took it all very literally and

so if a person rejects Genesis or Says we cannot take these words at

face value then they might as well reject what Jesus had to say

and what Paul had to say and and We as Bible believers could never do that.

We believe the Bible is a unity and It should be taken At face

value, you know, I I teach hermeneutics.

That is one of the courses that I teach pastors overseas and one of the

first rules of hermeneutics is what I call the literal principle in other words

reading the Bible as in its normal way Understanding it as it's written.

Understanding of course the grammar in the context and I often say that if the plain sense

Makes good sense Seek no other sense or you'll end up with nonsense.

And that's what we have today among those that refuse to take the book of Genesis Literally, they

have nonsense, you know, it's interesting.

I've heard my friend. Dr. James R. White of Alpha Omega Ministries when

especially when he is debating with liberals and they seem

to have a very indifferent if not

antagonistic view of what you just said in regard

to Interpreting what the original authors of

the texts of Scripture Literally in regard to their intentions

for what they they wrote and James

has said to his opponents in debate.

Can you imagine if I? began to represent a book you

wrote and I completely Interpret it differently than your intentions.

What would your reaction be.

And of course They usually remain silent because they realize they would never want anybody doing that for some reason

for some reason.

They think that's completely fine.

Just because of the age of the writings since it's these are writings from antiquity they

think that it's fine and dandy to completely Reinterpret what the original authors meant by what they

wrote.

And.

We're gonna go to our first break right now when we return we're going to have

Vinny get right into the heart of Genesis chapter 2

involving God's creation of Eve the first woman and why.

Was she created and could it have something to do with God's statement that it is not

good that the man should be alone Etc.

So if you have a Bible handy open up to Genesis chapter 2.

And we're going to be delving right into that with pastor Vinny Sawyer.

And if you have any questions on marriage our email address is Chris Arnson at gmail .com.

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Let's say you are in a very troubled marriage.

Perhaps you are on the brink of separation or divorce.

And you are not voluntarily involved in that perhaps.

There may be all kinds of things going on Involving marriage and it may not be your marriage.

It might be the marriage of a child or a loved one.

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This is Chris Arnzen if you just tuned us in.

Our guest today for the entire program is pastor Vincent Sawyer and

He is pastor of Victory Baptist Church in Port Charlotte, Florida.

We are addressing the very important theme What the Bible teaches about

marriage a commitment to dedicate your home to Christ.

Our email address is Chris Arnzen at gmail .com.

Chris Arnzen at gmail .com.

Give us your first name at least your city and state and your country of residence.

Let's go to Genesis 2 verse 20 Which reads the man gave

names to all the cattle and to the birds of the sky and to every beast of the field.

But for Adam there was not found a helper Suitable for him.

Now if you could go to that text and exegete that for us says that it is.

The at the core of what we are discussing today.

I'll be glad to do that before I do.

I'd like to begin with verse 18.

Okay there he says

in the creation account where

God he ended that section.

He said it was

good and that is he

says alone.

Now as it might be good for a man to be

alone.

Paul addressed Corinthians 7 where he says in light of the.

It is good for when

it is good for a man to be alone that he may.

The

people were facing in Paul's day in

certain places.

Does that include his rooftop if he has a nagging wife?

He says it is not good that the man be alone and I believe this is Generally

the kale

helper no ability to procreate

of course on his own.

I believe God created mankind in his own image and in his own likeness and

even in the triune Godhead there is so for example when

the Lord said in Genesis 121 make man.

He was not talking to the angelic realm.

The angels had no part in creation.

He said let us make man in our image plural pronouns because God is a trinity.

The Father the Son and the Holy Spirit.

There's communion within the Godhead.

We see this also in other scriptures in the book of Genesis and in Isaiah 6 and verse 8.

My point is is that God gave man a social nature that craved companionship

and all of us craved meaningful Relationships.

Children need their friends.

Men need other good men.

Unfortunately go to the wrong places to try to find that friendship others.

Perhaps look in classified ads to try to find it.

But a companion here was needed for fellowship.

And I believe next to fellowship with the Lord the fellowship with our spouse Should be

the closest most intimate enjoyable and rewarding Fellowship in

our life.

We need somebody to share our joys our burdens our triumphs our

defeat.

Adam needed that Adam needed someone.

Because it was not good for the man to be alone.

So I believe implied in that statement.

Is this God created Eve for Adam to be his companion?

Because it's not good that the man should be alone.

But also to get to the scripture that you mentioned Chris in verse 20

God Created Eve for Adam to be his completer.

He says I will make him and help me for him and This

I believe God's creation of Eve took place.

He then

allows the

many of the

animals of the land to to walk in front of him.

Adam begins naming these animals and I believe the whole purpose for this is

that Adam would see their distinctiveness from himself.

The animals were different in size and shape and appearance and They were impersonal.

They didn't have a personal nature.

You may talk to your dog or cat, but they don't talk back and

In front of Adam and Adam having a sharp mind

Pre -fall is able to buy their characteristics and traits give them appropriate

names.

But the Bible says but for Adam there was not and help me found for him.

And maybe I'm not dogmatic on this point, but maybe and this would apply to anyone who's

single.

Maybe one reason why God hasn't yet given you a spouse is he wants you to remember what it was like to be

alone.

So that when you are married, you'll appreciate your spouse more.

Yeah.

Excellent.

God.

Yeah, and also he may want to mature some area of your life so

that you will be better suited for the Responsibilities of marriage and but

God made it evident that man needed a woman and she was to provide him Assistance.

She was to be one of the missing links in his life.

So as to Enable him or complete him to fulfill God's plan for his

life.

And so God says I will make a

help me

compliment him or come back.

This is the the reason why God created the woman to balance him out.

To fill out his other side if you will.

It amazes me how opposites tend to attract you'll find a tall guy Often marrying a

short girl or an intelligent girl marrying a not -so -intelligent Man or

maybe a quiet person marrying an outgoing person and I believe a good wife

Will fill in our weak spots will strengthen our areas of need and a good

husband Won't be too proud to let her.

I believe what God does here is he creates a help me a Completer for

Adam so that she would Be the missing piece of a two

-piece puzzle if you will.

And a wife I believe finds her fulfillment in life By fulfilling

her husband.

I Believe her needs are met in large part by meeting his needs.

I heard one preacher put it this way Woman goes to an incomplete man

ugly

wife and

needs a we

can

accomplish a lot

more if

we have

that

encouragement from a

godly wife and I view my wife as my she is my

in many ways.

It has been said that behind every good man is a great woman.

So God created Eve

begins 11.

Well as you know The leftist society

Has even permeated the church?

And it's amazing that even some regenerate people are buying the lies of Satan

In regard to some of what you have said and many women in today's society Genuinely

believe that they exist primarily for themselves tragically, even within the

church and Many enter marriage with the goal of what they will get out of it

instead of what they can contribute to the husband.

How is this a distortion of God's intention and design in the creation account of Eve?

Receiving and we're looking something to benefit us in life.

And if life is all about

life serving others.

We can't be a dead

seat.

Oh, and that's why nothing will take

in but they don't give

out and many young ladies

Gave me a man.

I can invest my life into his life.

You know, it's like they're all looking for what the husband can do for them.

And it's all about them if they enter that marriage without Considering and I'm talking

to Christian, you know, they're

gonna have an empty life in an empty marriage.

I believe that in this account where God says that he would make a help me or

add that in essence Describes God in

marriage and that is

that the woman can

be and when she completes her husband in this way

She finds her fulfillment in life and of the

woman nothing instead of her being a child bearer is on

her be so wise.

Yes, God blesses homes with children.

But the priority relationship in that home is the husband and wife

relationship.

You think you're you base your relationship around your children and you have child -centered.

Parenting you are going to the

world revolves around them, right?

And it's all about them.

And so we need wives today.

That are going to serve their husband.

They're gonna they're gonna help their husband be all that he can be for the glory of God and then they

will find their fulfillment in life.

But you will never you you will never be happy until you fulfill the purpose

for which you were created and redeemed and.

And married and so if you're married.

Focus on pouring your energies into helping your husband be all that he could be for the glory of God.

Be as completer.

Amen, and we have to go to our midway break right now.

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listener questions, I Want to further make sure That you

have completed what you were talking about before the break which is basically that

that Christian parents must avoid the Idolatry of their children, which

I think is a frequent Circumstance even in Christian households and where

the child and children become more important than a

spouse's Relationship with his spouse and if you could just pick up on that where you left off and then

we can move on To another issue that is a part of our discussion here.

Sure.

Well, I would

say they

need to

know that

you

are.

Did

Eve.

Although he did create will make

a help

and so that's

very early.

Yes, you love your children.

We are to train up our children in the nurture and admonition of the Lord.

We are

to give them our

attention

their marriage.

Amen.

Now as far as like the actual details of the creation account in Genesis.

Instead of creating Eve from the ground as he did with Adam the Lord created Eve from

Adam's side.

What do you see as God's reason for doing it this way?

I.

Believe

Divine and it was

about to perform while he slept.

He took one of his ribs and Closed up.

The with the word encompasses

both the bone and the surrounding flesh.

Union and

marriage

God could have easily like you said Chris have created Eve out of the dust

Like he did Adam by the work, but if

you study the human body and you study soil You'll find that the

same elements and minerals that are in the ground are in the human body.

But he chose to not form her from the ground like he made the man.

He chose to make to demonstrate the unity that

God won.

One woman

armed

one

woman.

So

woman he

forms a woman, but he

didn't.

He forms a woman one who would

be Corresponding to Adam

yet

different

and by the

way in he

said God's

a Eve that she might be above him.

Nor a bone from his foot that she might be beneath

the beside him Close to his heart and yet under his arm for

protection.

Well, I think although the emphasis here is not Necessarily on where the bone was located

but on the fact that the woman's body came from the man's body.

So is to express the unity that husbands should have with their wife.

I think it's also interesting Chris that in Order for

our a bride He allowed himself

point

here

theologically is that Christ's

side would be pierced that he might acquire a bride When he was riveted to

that cross.

But also just as Jesus Would Give of his side to acquire a

bride I believe that Adam got his bride by giving of his

side who sovereignly Arranged it this way and When

we get married, we ought to love our wives as we do our own bodies.

He says in Ephesians 5 28 he that loveth his wife loveth himself.

She is your look at her as your flesh and blood.

That's how God Wants us to view our spouse.

Well, I don't want to.

Oh, I'm sorry.

Have you not finished?

Yeah, I was gonna also mention that in this one.

He wants in your life and that would be if you're a Christian

says be not unequally yoked together

with unbelievers.

Or what fellowship has righteousness with unrighteousness and what communion has light with darkness?

Now if you're already in a marriage where you're married to a non -believer You're to stay content in

that relationship.

1st Corinthians chapter 7 talks about that.

But my point here is God brought her and the fact that he brought her Tells me that she was a

gift to the man.

Do you view your gift your wife as a gift to be enjoyed or a thorn to be endured?

The Bible says who so findeth a wife findeth a good thing and obtained a favor of the Lord.

We ought to view our wife as a gift from God.

Amen, and I don't want to go off the rails here too much with a

by sidetracking you but since.

This is at the heart of a controversy.

Current day.

In fact, it's been a controversy for quite a long time.

The intrusion of feminism into the body of Christ that

Teaches egalitarianism.

Sometimes it's just in the church where they believe women can be pastors and elders.

Sometimes that is extended even into the home where there is no male headship in the home and.

I.

Have to be quick to interject because I don't want to slander some of the

biblically faithful and conservative denominations who I think

wrongly ordained women into the pastorate, but they don't necessarily do so because of

Liberalism and its encroachment upon the church.

Some of them have been doing it that way for centuries because it has been Historically attached

to the Wesleyan holiness movement and so on.

I still disagree with it.

But it's just a different phenomenon than liberalism is but in any case

those that have an egalitarian view of Leadership, they seem to

deny a very important concept in

the scriptures that we find in a number of places but specifically Involving

what you are just we're just talking about in 1st Timothy 2 and

Starting in verse 11 a woman must gently receive instruction with entire submissiveness.

I do not allow a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man but to

remain quiet for it was Adam who was first created and

Then Eve and it was not Adam who was deceived but the woman was deceived

and became a wrongdoer.

The thing the thing that I Although I readily believe in this and accept it

as being something that must be obeyed in the church.

I Don't understand why the order of creation would have something to do with women

being prohibited From leadership, I understand it's a fact

and it's true.

I just don't understand why and It's also interesting That Paul,

I mean, it wasn't just Paul in his own mind.

And that's it.

God Used Paul to breathe out this truth that Adam

wasn't deceived.

But the woman was deceived you would you would think that Adam would be less of a candidate for authority since

he knowingly sinned.

But anyway, if you could pick up where I left off there on why do you sir?

Why do you think the order had something to do in the order of creation?

Adam being created first there's something to do with the headship of men in the church in perpetuity and in the

home.

Yes, and I do believe that

what we see

happening in

churches today

where in the home We don't have a

in the

home.

We have many wives taking over.

He's not a server.

He calls the shot.

And he'd better get in creeping over into

the church.

We're talking about what God's design is not what people are doing today

opinion

today

texting her and

Joe or

pastor

or

overseer of which you just quoted from

in first Timothy 3 For

the he

desired the good work.

He will go on to describe how he must qualify Both spiritually and

says one that ruleth.

Well his own house.

He must be the husband of one wife He will say and that's hard for a wife to fulfill

and so when he gets the call clearly describing Male

leadership now to address the text and the question you

have let me say that it's not only here in first Timothy chapter 2 where he makes that statement,

but in first Corinthians 14 34 he says let your women keep silence in the

churches for it is not permitted unto them.

He gets to read

supporter.

He cites

Cree verse 14 what we hear today.

And women think

more with their heart.

They are more emotionally Driven and Adam was not deceived

but the woman being deceived within the transgression.

I believe what he's saying here is that I want male leadership in the home

For the reason that men are less likely to be deceived

than women because of their emotional nature because of a woman's more emotional

nature than the man and You know when Adam sinned he knew what he was

doing.

He was not deceived.

The woman was tricked or deceived.

So I believe That he brings that up here in this context because

by virtue of a Typical females distinction in

with her emotional Capabilities which by the way again fill out

man's other side they support The man they they're not to be despised the

differences and the genders are not Weapons to fight with but tools to build with

and where they ought to be appreciated.

I do appreciate Terry my wife more emotional nature than me and her

Softer heart than me, but I also recognize that with such strength

comes the potential For problems when it comes to leadership and God

knows that and even if the world doesn't see it I believe that's what Paul is

addressing here.

I'm so moved by what you said.

I'm getting teary -eyed.

Oh.

But I after that joke I do have to interject here, there's obviously nothing at

all a Feminine about a man crying over the truth of God's Word.

I've witnessed it.

I've witnessed it with the manliest of men from the pulpit even.

And.

And I think that we have to clarify here though that These commands are not

connected to giftedness for instance.

You could have a pastor of a church That is really not the most articulate orator

In town and you could even have a woman.

She may be a speaker at some kind of social Groups meetings

or what have you or even a speaker at a church women's ministry?

And she might be infinitely a better speaker than her own pastor.

She might even be more biblically literate.

She might even be more brilliant.

But none of that is an open door to violate what God has commanded because I hear those kinds of

reasons as to opening the door for women in leadership over men

in the church.

There's simply just they're not biblical reasons and they're they're using a

human wisdom to violate clear commands in Scripture.

Well, I

agree to

be in

behavior.

There's not given a much wine.

The younger women

to be

discreet

safekeepers at home

so God does are

teaching

the younger women and.

Also is not a man especially in regard to a male headship

in the household is Not a man an idiot in a

moron and a proud bully and tyrant if he never

counsels or should I say receives counsel from his wife especially in areas

Where she may be more knowledgeable.

I mean you may have a wife who is an accountant and She is infinitely

more Knowledgeable in matters of finances.

Now the the husband still has the final say but he's stupid if he never consults his

wife for her opinions and in every area of the.

Household and

God very often uses a godly wife to give

thankful heart and love.

The scripture

will

ignore it.

I believe that we need more Abigail.

The Abigail had a husband Nabal who wouldn't listen to her he ended up being.

I believe we we need.

Or

when you cannot arrive at a mutually agreed

-upon decision Then going the

frying pan at her husband and that is that the wife would submit

to the leadership Vision of her husband at that point.

Well, there's a perfect.

Window here for a listener question.

That because it relates to what you were just saying.

It's from it's from an anonymous listener Who says I completely understand

everything you are saying.

But you have not as of yet addressed the issue of a Christian woman being

married to an unbeliever.

When is she to submit to her husband?

And when is she to impose her views and decisions upon him?

Especially when it is a matter of obeying Christ

for marriage.

A wife who's

married to

an.

Unbelieving husband.

Or he might he might even be a professing believer.

Who's a moron.

I mean and when I say that I mean he.

And he could he could even he could be even a believer in name only he could be a false.

Believer

to do something that would lead you to violate a higher

authority being God's authority.

That is the time when it

is right

be proper Her husband

or to do something that would lead her to violate a clear

command of Scripture that applies to her.

For example if a husband said I don't want you reading your Bible or praying anymore.

Well, then she has to obey God rather than men.

Her man just like Daniel With the authority said no more

praying to anyone except to Darius the king.

Well, he kept right on opening his window Toward the east and praying to the true and living God.

They said to Peter and John no more preaching in the name of Jesus.

And they said whether it's right in the sight of God to obey you rather than God you be the judge.

But we cannot help but speak those things which we have seen and heard.

So at that point it was right for them to disobey the Religious authority

and and rather obey God and keep preaching Jesus.

So it is to be done graciously humbly and there are

times when a wife and that is

her conscience that were in

the sense of She'd be violating

a clear mandate of Scripture by doing so.

Yes, and We have to go to our final break.

It's going to be a lot more brief than the other breaks.

So we're gonna pick up right where we left off and if you have a question send it to Chris Arnson at gmail .com.

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Welcome back Pastor Vinnie.

If God intended from the start that Adam would be the servant leader of his wife.

The word leader there obviously implies submission on the part of the wife.

How do you understand submission and even if you could define what a servant leader is?

And of course that is rap rapidly eroding and disappearing with the leftists who are totalitarians

in places of authority.

And when we

talk about a

wife

submits will like

that

definition.

And what that what if that implies is that is that a wife who's

to perform his role.

She's going to allow her husband by providing the guidance

the sustenance that that family needs and.

So I should

be sensitive.

In fact,

don't you think that when the New Testament?

Commands that husbands love their wives as Christ loved the church that that is actually a

far more difficult task to perform than submitting That the command of the

woman to submit.

I'm not saying that it's harder for a man to love his wife as

Christ loved the church in his Deceived notion that he's achieved that I'm not talking

about that.

But I'm talking about the true Comparison of our love for our wives and Christ loves

to our like Christ love for our church.

We can never really reach that level of love on this planet.

Thank you.

Bring up a very loved

his

church

and

gave

himself

for her as a sacrifice that we are called to sacrifice

our life for our spouse and To

give and then just ask yourself

because he says That that's the pattern in Ephesians chapter 5 that

as the to

submit to your husband's authority to work

through your husband's Decisions even if you don't think he's making the wisest.

Amen, and ultimately marriage is a picture of Christ's relationship to his church and.

Yeah, and about 30 seconds.

Can you explain that.

Because we're rapidly running out of time God ordained

marriage to be an Illustration of that we

might be his.

Well, it's been

such a joy to

have you

back on

the show Vinny.

And we cannot wait another Period of months and years before you return.

We've got to have you on the show more more frequently.

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I want to thank our listeners, especially the individual who took the time to write in a question.

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And I want you all to always remember for the rest of your lives that Jesus Christ is a far greater Savior than

you are.

A sinner.