Refuting a Millennial

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One of the most important points that is fundamental to all of this discussion, and which is why you can't fight this battle consistently or effectively other than from the

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Christian worldview. And it is this, is that this whole entire scenario that we're in right now with abortion and all these very asinine and stupid arguments that are constantly propagated by the left and those who are promoting killing children, this is deeply theological.

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It's all theological. There is no way to make this neutral. It's all theological.

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Because when you go into this arena to fight, people are going to say, well, I say it's a blob of tissue.

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And the Christian goes, no, that's the image of God. And then you start pushing the person, they go, well, you go, what about science though?

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It says biologically has its own distinct DNA from the moment of conception, all the biological components of human being, only thing is a difference of degree.

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And then the person goes, well, yeah, it is a human being, but I think we should be able to kill all the human beings.

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So now we're getting into the question of morality. Ought we to be able to kill other human beings at will?

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Now you're getting into theology because what's the nature of a human being? Is there any value or dignity to human beings?

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Well, from an atheistic perspective, no more than horses, snails, dogs, or rocks.

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I mean, what's the big deal? I mean, it's just another random result of evolutionary processes, right? Ah, theology matters.

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Now you're getting to the point where you truly can't fight this on the basis of science, merely science.

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Yes, you can use science and all biological science demonstrates what the Bible says about human beings in the womb.

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But once you get past the point where you all agree that the science shows you conclusively, that's a human being by nature at the moment of conception, then you get to the next step of the argument.

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And that's the moral question. Should we be able to kill human beings at will? And now you're getting into the area of theology because either it's a mass of tissue and it's just a random result of evolutionary processes that doesn't matter any more than rocks, or it's the image of God and it deserves to be protected.

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So that's why the pro -life industry is a failed procedure in terms of moving through this to win anything.

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It's failed in its foundations. It's failed in its methodology. It's failed in its end goals.

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So that's why we have to fight this as Christians. Another example of the very poor argumentation that we're up against.

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I'm all for your freedom of speech and everything, but I still just think it should be up to them. You shouldn't really...

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So all moral decisions should just be up to anybody? Yeah. So we should be able to molest children. Free will.

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We should be able to molest children. We should be able to molest children, rape women. No, no, no. That's what you said. You still have to have morals.

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Morals aren't... Where's this come from? It's just life, man. It's just life, bro? Yeah, it's life. It's just life, bro?

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Yeah. Just morals or just life, bro? Yeah. Okay, so the child molester in the in the cage right now that we've caged up.

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Yeah. Who kidnapped and dismembered a small little girl after raping her. We put him in jail.

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Do you think he should be there? Oh, absolutely. But he lives by a different moral code than you. Right. He believes that what he did is a good moral happy thing.

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Not necessarily. He got pleasure from it. Well, there's lots of people today that are pedophiles that enjoy it. Why don't you let them have their way?

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Free will, bro. A lot of the times that's usually a psychological issue. Who says it's a psychological issue? Scientists.

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You're talking... No, you're talking about brain gas, biochemical responses happening in the brain.

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Neurons. Neurons are firing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you're talking about a condition that's happening in the brain of evolved protoplasm and the decision led to certain activities and you're condemning the activity that came from the brain gas.

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No, I'm saying that that right there can sometimes be affected like a disease and sometimes...

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It's brain gas. You don't really have a control over it. But it led to an activity. You're saying the activity is wrong. Oh, absolutely. On what basis is the activity wrong?

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You shouldn't do anything like that to somebody else. Are you an agnostic? Yeah. Okay. So coming from an agnostic worldview, on what basis do you call anything wrong?

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Anything wrong? What do you mean by that? You're an agnostic. Right. So you don't know.

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True. Right? Yeah. Okay. So someone who doesn't know is making all kinds of knowledge claims.

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Yeah, but I still believe that morally, just deep down in humankind, it's the right thing to do.

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Okay. Do you believe that we evolved to get here? Oh, absolutely. You believe that our ancestors are... that we're African apes? Oh, yeah.

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Our ancestors were fish? Uh -huh. So we're evolved fish. Right. Right? And you're condemning certain human behaviors and activities in a universe that doesn't care about us when our ancestors were fish.

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You're calling one value that's risen up over evolutionary time wrong and one right.

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Those are arbitrary. Yeah, but see, sometimes just people don't have... Science. Thank you.

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Science is a methodology. No, science really came to his defense there.

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No, no, no, no, no, science. Is that Jesse Pinkman? Science.

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Yo, Mr. White. Yeah, science. So I just wanted to show, and I actually haven't seen this for goodness forever, but it's interesting how we were just having a discussion that this is deeply theological and always comes down to theology, and that's where the argument went, is just to that place.

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It comes down to theological presuppositions or anti -theological presuppositions, which he had, and he's an agnostic.

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A, without, gnosis, knowledge. I'm without knowledge.

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I don't know. And I said, you're making all kinds of knowledge claims for somebody who doesn't know, you know.

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And he said, well, deep down, I know. Deep down, how? Well, because we should treat other humans with respect and value and not harm them.

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Who says? You? Stalin didn't believe that. Pol Pot, Mao didn't believe that.

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Hitler didn't believe that. We certainly don't believe that with these little children. He says, humankind, what's in the womb?

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What's in the womb from the moment of conception? A human being, therefore part of humankind.

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Listen, this is not an area where Christians should shrink back or fall into retreat to any degree.

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These arguments are ignorant, they are wrong, and they lead to the destruction of the unborn.

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And so stand up, stand on the word of God, preach the gospel in the midst of this.

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Call people to repentance. Tell the women who have had abortions that they can experience forgiveness and peace in Jesus Christ.