Highlight: Is God's Law The Measure of Justice Today?
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This is a highlight of Apologia Radio. In this clip Zach and Eric discuss basic distinctions in the Theonomy discussion.
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- 00:00
- here's the way that this is posited, theonomy or autonomy, by what standard, or who gets to decide what's just if we reject applying the basic moral principles of God's instruction to the modern day situation?
- 00:21
- And how, pray tell, if we construct an ethical system, just penalties for infractions of those laws, what is that based on that is going to be or have an objective grounding if not in God's law?
- 00:38
- Is it just going to be the product of someone's best guess? Is it going to be what works, pragmatically speaking, from a human perspective?
- 00:49
- What criteria are we basing that on to show that this is going to be anything other than man's fallen reason or flawed perspective?
- 00:59
- Because that's kind of what it comes down to, is what will inform the way that law and the enforcement of that law is meted out in a society?
- 01:11
- Will it be God's revelation or man's fallen reason? Like in other words, just assuming for a second, the two kingdom paradigm.
- 01:21
- Which by the way, is what they hold to. They hold to, yes. Yes, which is what they, I think they call it the doctrine of two kingdoms. But assuming that for a second, let's say that the civil magistrate is only to uphold the second table.
- 01:34
- If we're going to adopt that position, what is the penology from your position?
- 01:39
- What is the just penalty for that, even just the second table? Do we look to the
- 01:46
- Old Testament at all to inform what a just penalty for breaking commandments five through 10 are, or is this something that's floating in the air?
- 01:57
- Like why the coyote falling off of a cliff, right? Is this something that's floating in the air that we grasp at what works according to our own understanding?
- 02:05
- And I don't understand how we could not look at what God has said as a just penalty for even the second table and not be informed by that.
- 02:18
- So if they're informed by it, how? How are we informed by it? And why reject some of it and accept other aspects?