…But Instead Even Expose Halloween | Ephesians 5:11

Reformation Sunday and the Need to Clarify Last Week's Remarks

So now I get to say happy Reformation Sunday. This is probably the closest we'll get to Reformation Day in light of the calendar and so very excited once again to preach this message. I'm gonna have bits and pieces about the Reformation in it even though the title of the sermon as you can see is still going to be about Halloween.

I encourage everybody to also sign the Reformation Day statement and declaration from the Trinity Foundation. It is an excellent they are excellent documents to basically show our resolve with the gospel and with the Reformers and the Reformation over and against Rome and its false gospel so and against the ecumenical spirit that we live in to try to make everybody one in the same when they are different two different completely different religions.

I also have a very very important correction that I need to clarify from last Sunday regarding what I said what I said about Exodus 23. I'll go ahead and read that again which states for my angel God's angel will go before you and bring you into the land of the Amorites the Hittites the Perizzites the Canaanites the Hivites and the Jebusites and I will annihilate them.

You shall not worship their gods you shall not serve them and you shall not do according to their deeds but you shall utterly put them down and shatter their sacred pillars and pieces but you shall serve Yahweh your God and I it's funny because after the sermon last week our family we saw we watched the the 2003 Luther movie and it's so funny because we always we always crack up when we when the part the part where Luther confronts Andreas Karlstadt it's it's a very funny scene because Karlstadt was one of the Reformers with who worked with Luther and he's actually the one who debated with Luther against the Catholic Johann Eck at the Leipzig disputation it's a very famous debate that they had and in this scene Luther is coming back from his his captivity so to speak his his sort of like witness protection status in the cat in Vortburg castle and he's coming back because he's had enough and he wants to go back and be with the people and and continue the reform but then he was also provoked by Karlstadt because in the movie he's provoking all kinds of social unrest and violence and all this kind of stuff and so he confronts Karlstadt and he kicks him out he completely kicks him out of the of Germany and he tells him you're not welcome here and Karlstadt he looks kind of like a like a crazy guy.

He's like oh it's the people's work it's the people's work and he starts getting in people's face and all this stuff and he just kind of looks he just looks like the real bad real bad guy. And it's just a really funny scene.

But Karlstadt was also named in the same people bull that demanded Luther to recant or otherwise face excommunication which is basically eternal condemnation. So Karlstadt was advocating this sort of spirit of in the movie at least of just trashing stuff trashing the idols of Rome breaking things and even getting physical and aggressive and violent with the priests and things like that.

And but when I said that we need to shatter and destroy false religious practices I meant that on a strictly personal basis. Okay personal level in our own lives whatever lies under our own dominion. I did not mean that we should go on a Karlstadt crusade and start trashing and destroying Halloween decorations from your neighbor's house or to go to Costco and start tearing the you know demonic decorations up there.

Okay so that's not what I meant and I really misspoke there. I wasn't. I don't think I was that careful when I when I was trying to explain that. So when it comes to false religious practices like Halloween done by others or promoted by others we should simply not take part in part in them but instead expose them rather expose them right.

Amen. From Ephesians 5. So now however if you do have false religious paraphernalia images idols whatever it may be music and objects then you should burn them down. You should burn those things you should trash those things you should shatter those things to pieces if they are yours just like they did in the book of Acts chapter 19.

And I'll read that in a little bit later on I look actually we can turn there now and we'll read that right now because it's very relevant to to the Reformation as well and to Halloween. In Acts chapter 19 verse 18 the Word of the Lord says.

Also many of those who had believed kept coming confessing and disclosing their practices. What kind of practices. And many of those who practiced magic brought their books together and were burning them in the sight of everyone and they counted up the price of them and found it 50 ,000 pieces of silver.

That's a lot of money by the way. So the Word of the Lord was growing mightily and prevailing so very fascinating account in the book of Acts here where the people were basically practicing witchcraft and paganism and magic sorcery and they got saved when they heard the preaching of the gospel and so they brought all their junk all their pagan stuff their scrolls and their books and stuff and they burned it all.

So that same spirit is the spirit that we all should have as believers once God saves us and brings us to repentance and conversion and regeneration. Right. This is the very important cleansing process that God does in our lives through a conviction and for leading us through it and any of these pagan or false religious practices that we were doing.

And I have a another very personal story to tell about this as well because we used to be Roman Catholic and you know my mom she used to have this gigantic like four-foot statue of Mary of you know it was an idol basically and we used to debate fiercely after I became a Christian we would go back and forth a lot and at one point I think she even denounced me as a heretic because I said that Mary was a sinner and so we had a quite the quite the family dynamic there to put it mildly and but one one day so as we talked and discussed and debated and all of these things happen one day she basically wanted to meet with us in her bed in her bedroom and then she just sort of took out the statue and she said that she's kind of she was ready to just get rid of it and tear it to pieces literally tear it shatter it to pieces just like the verse says in Exodus.

And I didn't tell her to. I didn't I didn't actually tell in fact my I thought it was the Catholic Church's. I was like well maybe we should just take it back to them because it's their property. But she was like no no it's fine like it's not it's not pertaining to them and so she wanted to just break it and that's exactly what happened that day.

She tore the idol shattered it to pieces and we backed it up and threw it in the trash. So that was a very special a very powerful moment in our family's life because there was still that wrestling with Rome with Romanism and the idols and all of that stuff.

And Mary obviously Mary is a very important part of the Roman Catholic religion even though it's flat-out idolatry and so that was that was a pretty amazing episode in our own lives. But that's what it sort of looks like.

That's an example of what breaking the idols because sometimes the idols are physical real idols there they are very real things. Whether so so that's a in this so in the spirit and power of the Reformation the Protestant Reformation by all means shatter the idols in your own life.

Not the ones in Costco right. But the ones that you own. Okay that's what we should be doing whether they be mental idols physical idols whatever they may be movies music whatever it was get rid of it get it out of your life now.

Karlstadt, Wittenberg Reform, and Practical Separation from False Worship

Historical note here Karlstadt was not quite the radical that the movie portrays him to be because even though he did push for more rapid reforms and Luther was comfortable with in Germany Karlstadt had also he had also returned to with Wittenberg only two weeks after the papal bull was issued to excommunicate them and he got straight to work advocating for very rapid reforms in the city of Wittenberg.

And when he began pushing the abolition of images in Christian worship Luther then interrupted his exile to return to Wittenberg and Luther argued that reform should be introduced more slowly and with regard to for the consciences of the weak.

And after that the University of Wittenberg basically sort of pushed Karlstadt aside and just restricted him to teaching. And by 1523 now remember the thesis wasn't. Luther posted the thesis in 1517. So in 1523 Karlstadt left Wittenberg and he began preaching in several other places.

And during this time he took several positions opposing Luther including pacifism which is the view that Christians should not go to war. A memorialist understanding of the Eucharist which is contrary to what Lutherans believe that Christ is present in with and under the bread and a.

And he also rejected infant baptism which we would agree with. So that was very interesting as well. He didn't advocate for re-baptism but he did reject infant baptism. So this this whole this whole episode I think God used to get me thinking more carefully and meditating on how we as Christians can be salt and light and protest biblically in our society.

So you know when you when you do see Halloween decorations on someone's home pray for them. Right. Pray for them. And we can also evangelize them and introduce them to the Reformation. Tell them about what what this day really should be about about the Reformation.

And when you do go to the store and you see the demonic creepy Halloween decorations talk to the store manager and protest right. Be a Protestant but respectfully of course don't you don't want to trash them because then you'll have to pay for them.

And then when you pay for them that's going to motivate them to do it more and more because you're paying for that stuff right. So we don't we got to be wise in our last and evil day right. But hey this is a very good and powerful way to voice your opinion and your perspective and they they will at least hear you out.

Okay let them know that you're a Christian right. Let them know that you're a Christian and that you and your children are provoked and repulsed by all the Halloween decor and that they should take take it down because there's kids everywhere and people are so insensitive desensitized to it now.

But be speak up. You know speak up and you know there's a lot of people not just not just us not just believers that don't want to see demons around flying you know everywhere on display especially children right.

So be that voice of of truth and light to them and let them know why you don't celebrate Halloween. Why why it's demonic that you celebrate Reformation Day instead and that they should if they even put consider putting up Reformation Day stuff.

You might even consider buying that instead right. So there are ways that we can be salt and light even in our last and evil day. And we should always protest rather than participate in the darkness of Halloween right.

Amen just like our title says instead even expose the unfruitful works of darkness including of Halloween. So Semper Reformanda right. Always reform always be reforming in your life according to the Word of God.

Now I want to recall from last week that whatever we do participate we need to know the intent right the purpose the spirit behind it its origins where it comes from. Okay that says a lot about it. What is it really about.

What is Halloween really about which this requires us to look past the surface level. It requires us to study history and church history and apologetics which is a defense of the faith of the Christian faith in order to discern what's true and what's false right from wrong right.

Very important to do this we cannot just haphazardly walk through life and not challenge or question what these things that are happening in our society because it's evil it's pagan it's corrupt right.

So we need to be aware of these things now. Halloween like I said promotes and celebrates the world the flesh and the devil over the Father Son and the Holy Spirit which are God the true God. It promotes excessive indulgence over self-denial of candy treats sensuality over chastity and self-control perversion over purity.

Satanism over Christianity witchcraft over the Spirit of God and his means of grace. Blasphemy over true worship death murder vampires and the undead. My son wanted me to throw that in there. Zombies over life and eternal life.

Evil over good darkness over light fear horror depression over peace love and a sound joyful mind right. Superstition over true piety uncleanness over purity. Fake substitutes like trunk-or-treat or harvest festivals at churches sometimes do over true pure and undefiled religion before our God the Father which according to James 127 is undefiled religion.

What is it. It's to visit orphans and widows and their affliction and to keep ourselves unstained from the world. That's holiness. Okay that's basic holiness and separation from the world and from worldliness.

It is pure religion to keep ourselves unstained and undefiled from the world. Now this brings us to our ever-present objectors who are in the church as well and you know because recently I've seen this presentation on the Ali Beth Stuckey show and she had interviewed these guys Jeremiah Roberts and Andrew Sondkrant from the cultist show and it's a show called cultist where they talk about cults and they expose cults and all these that you know dark practices and everything.

And they're also from Apologia Church which is pastored by Jeff Durbin and even by James White you know it's a very prominent Reformed Baptist Church and the show is called the real history of Halloween and it was it was terrible.

Okay it was horrendous. They also did a follow-up episode later on with Michael Jones which is even worse and very condescending trying to put Christians down who denounce Halloween and all this stuff trying to make them look like just stupid and but I've got some one-two punch combos for them all.

Right. So that's what we're gonna deal with today. A lot of this stuff that they claim these false claims that these guys guys like in it didn't. It's not just them it's a bunch of it's a bunch of ministries and people who should know better but don't sadly.

So I want you to think carefully carefully with me here as we exercise some basic logic to refute this nonsense that they teach. And so the big one of the things one of the claims that they make is that the work of Jeffrey Keating who was a 17th century Irish historian and Roman Catholic priest it was his work on Celtic pagan origins of Halloween that had been disproven more more recently and so therefore all claims of Halloween having pagan origins are now invalid.

They're invalid because this guy's claims were somehow invalid. And so other Christian sources similarly blame sir Fraser who at the turn of the 20th century claims to have discovered connections between an elf an ancient Celtic fire festival and the appeasement of the dead with you know this with with the church's celebration.

And also from a pseudo scholar called Matt Margaret Murray who had similar you know critiques about Halloween being pagan. Now this actually this takes me back to a Stanford health medicine webinar that I watched a few years ago about vaccines.

Okay now why do I why do I say that. Because in that webinar one of the audience asked a question about you know what about vaccines and autism. Isn't that you know what about that issue. Does it cause autism.

And the the speaker who was a doctor had said no no no oh no no no that's that's just silly that's absurd. Vaccines don't cause autism that was by that was done by a doctor Andrew Wakefield who was discredited his study was discredited it was recalled and he was his license was revoked because he was just pushing a bunch of false claims fraudulent claims about vaccines causing autism and so case closed.

Right. Well this there was just this nut job this quack doctor who who was proposing these false claims. And it's like okay okay well name see if you can name that fallacy in this type of reasoning. Okay now a fallacy is an error in thinking okay an error in your argument either in the form called the formal fallacy or in the substance or content of the argument called an informal fallacy.

Okay now one of these fallacies that you will find when you study them it's called a hasty or a faulty generalization. It's basically jumping to a invalid or premature conclusion. Just because one guy says something false about whatever the case may be does not necessarily mean that now any claims any similar claims are totally false because somebody may have made a more logical argument a better grounded argument with sound evidence that actually does demonstrate the claim to be true.

Okay so that's important to take into consideration because people do this all the time all the time including Christians as you can see. And a similar false argument is called poisoning the well poisoning the well poisoning the well is basically when you you try to discredit the speaker or the one pushing the argument and you basically try to discredit them entirely.

And you know in the political season that we're in you find this everywhere with people with with who against Trump right. They say oh he's a Nazi oh he's Hitler oh he's just like Hitler he's a tyrant he's a fascist all this stuff to try to discredit what he's really about right.

Oh he's a he's a you know he tried to lead an insurrection at the Capitol. Total lies right. Complete falsehoods. Anybody who sees the evidence will see what's really going on there. They're a bunch of liars and spinsters and fraudsters.

They're the spinsters and the liars and the fraudsters. Right. So it is the poison well is is sometimes used with the association fallacy as it's also called well it's a different fallacy. It is an unfavorable attribute is ascribed to any future opponents of the argument in an attempt to discourage or dismiss any more debate any debate whatsoever.

It's like oh we dealt with that already this has already been discredited to be out by that doctor that crazy nutjob crack doctor that said this right. That's already been disproven. It's like no not necessarily that's not necessarily the case and so there you go.

I also call it I have a similar name for it called the fallacy of dismissal. It's just like well you know these guys they're just off their wackos. It's an it's an abusive ad hominem argument as well.

It's also referred to as that it's just dismissing the opposition. So that way there's no there's no real dialogue or discussion there's no real argument or debate being done. And that's a very dangerous form of arguing because it's false.

And it doesn't even allow the arguments to be dis presented anymore because well it's been disproven this guy disproved it already. So there's nothing to nothing to talk about anymore. Right. And like I said pay attention to these fallacies because you will find them everywhere in our media everywhere.

So think with me here just because one faulty study of the origins of Halloween assuming it was faulty to begin with it may not have been faulty at all just because one bad study was there does not at all disprove the many other studies that are well argued and that claim that Halloween has pagan origins.

Right. And they don't even use Keating or Margaret Murray or or Fraser as sources. They don't even list them as sources right now. So not only that but these guys also claim boldly that most modern historians don't really believe that Halloween has pagan origins anymore.

It's sort of just been like okay that was that was just a thing of the past. Nobody nobody believes it anymore. And but is that like. And I'm like okay really is that what. Like. Is that really the case.

Now be very careful when people make these categorical universal claims right. They say oh well nobody believes that anymore. That's that's absurd. That's just silly. Okay. Well if you do a little bit of research you will find.

Okay what about recently updated and published scholarly articles in the Encyclopedia Britannica on the History Channel on the official websites of Scotland and Ireland the official ones from the government.

Not that the government. You know I'm not saying that the government is all right. You know government is not always good. But it's like what. What are they. They don't have anything to. They don't have a bone to pick here.

Why would they care if it's all if it's pagan or not. They don't care. They're not Christians. They don't care so and numerous other historians and scholars. Here's just a few examples. Frederick sup.

Okay Frederick sup is a history professor who specialized in Celtic Irish Welsh medieval European history and more. So he lives eats and breathes this stuff. Okay. What does he say. Well he says that traditions like wearing masks and costumes the name of the holiday jack-o'-lanterns trick-or-treating and bopping for apples can be traced back to Celtic celebrations during pre-christian times.

Okay so this was an article from 2020. Right. So what's going on. Like what did they not get the memo like what these people are literally do this for a living. They do this homework this research for a living.

Then I have another book from Kevin Duffy who I think was an anthropologist a very popular book on the called who were the Celts. And he says that the celebration of Halloween on October 31st is a perpetuation of a 2 ,000 year old annual religious festival of the Celts called Samhain.

Right. That's what I mentioned last week Samhain dedicated to all gods and denizens of the Celtic underworld. It commemorated the creation of the world when chaos was transformed into order. On that night various supernatural entities including the spirits of the ancestral dead were believed to wander among the living creating great danger.

Right. It was customary then to put food outside dwellings to appease related but not necessarily friendly spirits who were thought to have the desire to sit once again at the family hearth with their living descendants.

So this important occasion dedicated to all the Celtic gods and ancestral spirits was eventually renamed none other than all Saints Day and all Hallows Eve. Right. In adjusting to early Christian beliefs.

Right. So there there again you see another another well-known a scholarly book that says what pretty much everybody has been saying and has been recognized now Halloween is straight-up pagan superstitious origins you know what.

Really this kind of stuff just just really frustrates me because they also claim these guys they claim that uh Halloween in America was originally just a harmless celebration for kids much like it's the Great Pumpkin Charlie Charlie Brown that was a movie from back in the day.

And so then I'm like okay well I went and saw this movie. So they claim that Halloween became darker as the years went on it became increasingly darker but didn't. It didn't even start out the way in America now.

So I went and saw this movie right this child this Charlie Brown movie and I'm like okay what what are you all just not paying attention like the movie is showing them dressed as witches and ghosts and ghouls going trick-or-treating like it's nothing has changed.

It's the same celebration back then that it is now and they're trying to say that it was some harmless innocent thing. It's like what do you. What do you are which is not evil. What are witches in your in your understanding your tech in your textbook is witchcraft not condemned in the Bible which it is.

By the way in case you missed it we are gonna read it. Don't worry but this this stuff was like where's your discernment. Where is the discernment in the church. And these guys are actually putting stuff out there for the church to consume and to say well no don't worry it's not pagan.

So it's fine if you celebrate it. Right. And it's always been dark always now another bold claim that guys like these make is that we should reclaim we should not only celebrate but reclaim the Christian quote-unquote origins of Halloween and celebrate it as a holy day.

Right. We should celebrate it as a holy day. I say okay so what about that. Now I already dealt with this last week right. That they claim that the Christian Church right. The Christian Church originally established Halloween to honor dead saints and later became later on it became more pagan.

Church History, Equivocation, and the Roman Catholic Roots of Halloween

Okay so I have a couple of theses of my own to present to you all. Number one thesis number one church history. No theology matters. Right. Theology matters. Why. Because it has consequences. Theology has consequences.

Good or bad. Thesis number two. Church history matters. Okay history is important. Origins matter because your historical awareness and bias has consequences. Okay. Good or bad. What. What Christian Church are they talking about.

What are they calling Christian Church. What is the Christian Church that they're referring to. What Christians are they talking about. Who what and are they referring to. Now if you go back like I mentioned there what are they talking about.

Are they talking about the Popes. Are they talking about Pope Boniface the fourth Pope Gregory the third. How about Pope Gregory the fourth. All of these Popes contributed to the religious institution of these days that are known as all hallow tide these three days.

Right. What are they talking about them. The Roman Catholic Popes. What about. So what's what's the problem here. Why are they saying that the Church of Rome which Luther and the Reformers opposed as a false church because they had a false gospel of justification by faith and works.

Why are they all of a sudden now calling them the Christian Church. That's another fallacy by the way called equivocation. That fallacy is called equivocation. That is where you call something you refer to something in two different senses or definitions.

Okay so in this case they are referring to the Christian Church as the true church that opposed the true gospel. But they also now they're calling the Roman Catholic Church the true church. And you find this a lot.

And even in church history books where they describe the history of the Christian Church as the history of the Roman Catholic Church which is a false church. It's a it's a it's an instant. It's a false institution.

It is not Christian by any means. Now you we should also and then again the answer is very clear. The answer was in the Reformation itself. As we will see they opposed the material what's called the material and formal principles of the Reformation.

They opposed the gospel of Rome the sacraments of Rome. It was a false gospel and therefore a false church. Now even is it is it ever. This is a question that I raised last time. Is it ever. Is it ever a coincidence that the the Roman State Church.

Okay it's not just a church. Remember it is a state. It is an official political state that the Pope is the head up. Okay it is a totally corrupt institution now that it these days that it chooses to observe.

Why do they always happen to coincide with major pagan festivities and celebrations. Why is that the case. Right. Even in India they celebrate Hindu holidays called Diwali. And I know this because of I have Indian co-workers from India.

It's very common in the IT you know in the IT field and in the developed software tech technology industry. Now they celebrate they celebrate at work at my job pagan Hindu festivals like Diwali. They don't.

That do they talk about Reformation Day. No they don't talk about Reformation Day. They don't want to talk about that. They'd rather talk about these kinds of pagan holidays. And this holiday is an ancient harvest festival of lights that commemorates the dead just like the pagan festivities at the Roman Catholic Church based all Saints Day on.

Right. And the same thing in the Mexican. The other was Martha's. This is an older celebration of me. Oh let me see if I can get this right. Me clan me clan tech kuti me clan tech kuti. It is a that's now water.

That's their language for the Lord of the land of the dead. That's the Aztec God of death. That's what the the other those Martha's is based on. All of this is pagan demonic stuff. Right. It's all pagan.

All false all pagan now. Okay. But even if what they say is true right even if what these people say is true that Halloween had no pagan origins there is still no question whatsoever that all of these false teachings and celebrations around purgatory of the Roman Church State were at the very heart of the Reformation.

And why these days were established all Hallows Eve all Saints Day and all Souls Day. They all revolved around the false teachings of Rome and of purgatory. And they were. They lied at the very center of the conflict with Rome that the Protestants had with and against Rome herself and are the main reason for the Reformation erupting in the first place.

So this in fact indirectly proves that Halloween does have pagan origins. Why. Because all throughout history when you study Rome and her ways and her methods it's no wonder that the Protestants called her the whore of Babylon after rev the book of Revelation they named Rome and the Church of Rome after the whore of Babylon.

Because this is what they did when they wrote when the Roman Catholic Church they typically almost invariably without fail when they evangelize pagan nations and established so-called holy days. Quote-unquote.

They would almost invariably would would simply substitute whatever the pagan practices were and replace them with Christian names Christian veneers. Oh don't call her there you know your false goddess.

Just call her Sebel. Don't call her Sebel anymore. Color st. Walburga. Right. St. Walburga. Color mother Mary st. Mary. Call them any in any number of the Saints that they had they had any number. They had a buffet of a slew of Saints to pick to replace the pagan gods and goddesses.

That's what they did every single time. Okay. So that pretty much proves that there was something going on there because they never operated in a vacuum. Rome never operates in a vacuum. Right. So this is and also remember this is because we this is a basic just this is just something we need to understand as Christians with who are salt and light.

Right. Whatever pagan nations practice especially in religion is always false demonic and sinful. Always because he who is not with me is against me and he who does not gather with me scatters who said that our own Lord and Master Jesus Christ in the Gospels themselves.

Amen. So okay I mean really really this this should be case closed. This should be. I get so irritated with these guys who think they know this stuff. And they they just push these false narratives. And this is in addition to Halloween being one of the three most important satanic holidays of the entire year.

Which makes perfect sense. Right. Because what does it celebrate. It glorifies the devil. And as many wicked schemes now do these people check the satanic Bible. No you look at their videos. Not one of them bothered to read the satanic Bible which I quoted to you last week.

Right. So just careless sloppy and careless. And they usually denounce us dismiss us as being the sloppy and the careless ones. Right. Whatever. But I previously also mentioned that Protestants and Puritans often prohibited they prohibited Halloween celebrations in colonial America.

No surprise. I wonder why. Right. However get this in states like Maryland which was founded as a safe haven for Roman Catholics. Okay it was a Roman Catholic stronghold originally. It is likewise no surprise that in Maryland they actually celebrated Halloween and recognized all Hallows in their church calendars.

Okay why am I should we surprise. Should we should be surprised. And so did the Anglican colonists in southern states. Okay that's from the Anglican Church. Now the Anglican Church is the Church of England.

They were formed. They came out of the Reformation with King Henry the eighth. They are essentially Protestant in doctrine. But they are very they still they are a state church. Okay the king and queen.

They are the head of the Church of England which is completely unbiblical. There is only one head of the Christian Church. And who is that our Lord and Savior Christ alone. Amen. So they are a state church.

They are a compromised church and their church worship and liturgy retain a lot of Roman Catholic baggage and practices. So they're compromised. So it's no surprise that they would also have something like Halloween in their celebrations.

But even in Britain. Okay even in Britain Halloween customs came under attack. Why. Because of the Reformation as Protestants be rated purgatory as popish doctrines incompatible with the biblical doctrines of what.

Of predestination. Because in pre God predestines all to either heaven or hell. Not purgatory. There's no purgatory in Scripture. Right of the doctrine of sin of God's justice of the atonement of the gospel of the finished work of Christ of the eternal state of heaven and hell.

I mean it's everything. It's every major doctrine of the Bible that purgatory defies and denies. Right. That's what these days are celebrating according to the Roman Church. And we are to have nothing to do with these practices.

Not the pagan ones are not the Roman Catholic ones. Right. So this the state now these ceremonies were sanctioned by the state in Britain. They were abolished during the Elizabethan reforms from 1559 through 1563.

That was right during the heyday of the Reformation. Okay the English Reformation. And it marked the end of it with those reforms though even though how all hallows day remained in the English liturgical calendar.

But but instead it was to commemorate Saints as godly human beings. It wasn't to do all this other nonsense stuff about purgatory. They denounced it. So they changed it. Okay. Because why. Because of the Reformation it got changed.

And then others non-conformist Protestants in other words basically Puritans the Puritans whom we have our heritage from. Theologically the theology of all hallows Eve was redefined because souls cannot be journeying from purgatory on their way to heaven as Catholics frequently believe in asserted like they're just wandering around and they they roam around loose on all souls day.

So that's a bunch of that's a bunch of nonsense. Instead the so-called ghosts or spirits of the departed are thought to an actuality be what according to them the non conformist Puritans they're evil spirits.

Right. They're demons. They're devils. Amen. This is what the church that has discernment understood and denounced. That is why it was denounced right. So this is nonsense. This nonsense just needs to.

I hope it's more even clearer now. Right. So the more Protestant society became the less Halloween ish it became. Right. There's an inverse relationship there now. This is a clear example of needless to say of why history and church history are so important for us to know.

Because even well-meaning Christians can twist it into making other Christians think that something as demonic and false and pagan as this holiday is perfectly acceptable to participate in. Right. This is extremely dangerous dangerous.

What these people are doing and I believe this is partly due as well to their theological assumptions or presuppositions. Okay. Why. Because a lot of people like this people like these guys tend to be post-millennial dominionists who are trying to conquer the culture for Christ to reclaim it.