James White is Infallible

The Mass as a Perpetuatory Sacrifice

Again, I simply emphasize, that is not some separate action, that is not some separate work that makes the previous work imperfect.

Oh, I think it is, and I'll tell you the reason why. It's because if the sacrifice of Christ on the cross was perfect and complete and once and for all, there would be no need to continually present it to the Father.

That's your theology. So why is he, it doesn't make any difference whether liturgicals here is a noun or a verb. The point is that he's a minister in the tabernacle. He's not just sitting down, but even if that wasn't correct, let's just say he's sitting down and we'll take the rest of the verse out.

The point still remains that you said that he's presenting the cross of Calvary to the Father to assure the application of the benefits of the cross of Calvary. So it's a necessity for him to do that intercession of presenting it to the Father to have the effect of Calvary to his people.

But that's not what you had claimed earlier. You said the cross of Christ on Calvary was perfect and complete and needed no other thing to be done.

Because the work of intercession is not a separate work, it is the same work. Sir, I'm not sure why we're arguing about my theology. You're here to defend the dogmatic assertion that the Mass is a perpetuatory sacrifice.

Don't get the focus off me. The focus is on you to explain your own words. It doesn't make any difference whether it's a work that's the same or different. The point, in fact, is you say he has to present it to the Father to effectuate the work on the cross.

I did not say that. Where's the word effectuate in that book?

Well, whatever. You didn't use the word effectuate.

Oh, context, context, context.

No, that's not context, Mr. White. Okay, I'll read it again for you. This is what you said.

I enjoy the fact that we keep reading my book here. I just wish it was available. It's not in print anymore.

I hope they go out and buy it and see all your mistakes.

He says this.

Rather, the Son intercedes for men before the Father on the basis of the fact that in His death He has taken away the sins of God's people. And therefore, by presenting His finished work on Calvary before the Father, He assures the application of the benefits of His death.

Okay, that's what you said. Now, I interpreted that as effectuate. I'm sorry. I think your words are actually more powerful.

I personally think I am the infallible authority on interpretation of my own words.

Yeah, that's your problem, Mr. White. You think you're infallible.