Matt Slick Live: August 23, 2024

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Abortion, Abolitionism, and Forgiveness in Christ

Welcome to the show. It's me, Matt Slick. You're listening to Matt Slick Live, and today's date is August 23rd, 2024. If you want to give me a call, as usual, all you have to do is dial 877 -207 -2276, and you can also email me, info at karm .org, info at c-a-r-m dot o-r-g.

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Okay, there we go with that. All right.

So much to do.

All right.

Why don't we just jump on the phone calls here. Jay from Ohio.

Hey, Jay.

Welcome, buddy. You're on the air.

Hey, Matt. How you doing, man?

Super busy. Super busy. But that's what it is.

I bet.

So much to do.

Yeah. Yeah. I hear you.

All right. So what do you got?

Cool.

Well, hey. I was following up. I was your last caller yesterday. We were talking about abortion abolition, and I just wanted to give you a call back where we left off. Basically, you were mentioning we were talking about the case of life of the mother, life of the child.

And actually, that reminds me. I was watching some stuff last night, and it was one of those quick things. And the guy made a couple of comments, and I copied them down, but I modified them. And I really liked what was said.

The woman in abortion, the woman says, you must die so I can live. Christ says, I must die so you can live. And Jesus said, this is my body given for you. The woman said, this is my body, no room for you.

And Jesus entered the world through the womb to die for others. But doctors enter the womb to kill for others. You know, and just these parallels. And it's true, but you're right.

Yeah.

So where were we?

Yeah.

Amen.

Yeah.

Well, so you were mentioning, like, essentially, if I'm hearing you right, you were saying, like, that would be the only feasible exception that you could think of would be like the mother's life is at risk, basically.

No, not just at risk. But I mean, it's basically the unanimous decision, no, she'll die. And both will die. That's the only condition I could see, you know.

So yeah, for sure. So I just wanted to weigh in on that a little bit because this is obviously, as I'm sure you know, it's like a common point that's made. And when in those cases, basically, like if when a doctor obviously takes on a pregnant woman as a patient, he has two patients.

So in this one scenario, we allow for a doctor as a method of caring for one of his patients to intentionally murder one of the other patients, basically. Murder, again, being premeditated, unjustified taking of a human life.

But they do, they say it's not human. They say it's not human.

Oh, yeah. Sure. Sure. Yeah.

It's not human.

Absolutely.

Yeah, no, I'm with you on that.

Which makes no sense. But anyway.

Yeah.

But yeah.

So like, if the mother's life is at risk, let's say, and she is delivering the child in the process of delivery, they're saying you could die. Either way you cut it, she has to give birth to that child.

So it's, it's either going to be, we need to try to save both of these patients, or we need to deliver a dead child in which you're still going to have to go through the delivery and you will still be in the same risk.

You're talking about what you're doing. You're now saying this is what needs to be done in certain circumstances. So there's lots of variables, lots of things. I think we should just keep it generic because we can go on with particulars all night.

There are a lot of women out there who have had abortions, a lot of men who've supported that and both need to come to the cross to Christ and be forgiven of their sins. But a lot of times people will say life begins at conception and it does not begin at conception.

It continues. The egg and the sperm are alive and that life just is combined. And what a lot of people don't know is when fertilization occurs, there's a spark of light that occurs and it's really interesting and it's been photographed.

And so it's there. And I don't know what that is, but it might be the work of God for all I know. But it's, that point has all the information of being human and you can't say, one of the things I'll do with the womb scrapers is I'll say, well, when does it become human?

I've had them say as late as well, when it's giving birth, that's when it becomes human, when it leaves the womb, which is stupid. I mean, it's just ridiculous arguments. But so many people don't care.

You can kill it 10 minutes before birth and it's not a human.

Yeah.

And then I ask them, what changes its nature from non-human to human? What is it? A birth process, going through the birth canal, all of it, it's ontological nature now altered. Is that what you're saying?

I ask all kinds of questions and they just fumble because they don't know how to answer them, but they don't care. What they want is the convenience of their own lives at the cost of another. That's a form of slavery.

Yeah.

And that's, you know, and that's why this is child sacrifice that's happening. Just think about the ancient Israelites who were offering their children to Molech. Molech was giving them, you know, I mean, it doesn't say precisely, but a bountiful crop or peace or whatever.

Today, we sacrifice our children. Yeah, we sacrifice our children for career or education or money or convenience or whatever the case may be. But we're still offering our children up to be slaughtered for a benefit for ourselves, essentially.

So, you know, by definition, it's child sacrifice. And yesterday, you were saying that you weren't super familiar with the abolitionist stance, I guess.

Yeah, I'm researching it, though.

I emailed you.

I already started.

Yeah.

Awesome, man. That's great. I emailed you last night info at CARM, and it's it's from a site or an organization called Abolish Human Abortion, and they have what are called the five tenets of abolitionism.

I know you're super busy, man. It's like a five minute read. It's worth it, because, I mean, this is like a biblical, it's right.

Check it out.

So, yeah.

Cool, man.

Yeah. Awesome. Yeah.

So I just wanted to just wanted to follow up with you. I live in Ohio, obviously. We have a rep who is putting forward a bill in the coming months for just full criminalization, abolishing abortion in Ohio.

If you if you wouldn't mind, I would just like to ask for people listening and yourself for prayer on that, that we would that the Lord would use that and see success.

Well, they can pray and that's what people do. That's what that's one of the things people do. So good.

Absolutely. OK.

Oh, brother.

Yeah.

And again, if you know, I know how busy you are, so it would it'd be really, I think, really fruitful for you to check that out.

So.

OK.

Sounds good.

OK.

Cool, man. I appreciate you.

All right, man. Well, God bless.

Thanks.

Appreciate it.

All right, brother.

All right. Yeah. Bye bye. OK, bye.

So. So about that topic, I know there's a lot of people out there are very disturbed about this kind of topic. Let me say that you need to need to look to Jesus. Would Jesus have advocated killing the unborn for your convenience?

Is that something Jesus would have advocated? Would he have supported that? The answer, of course, is no, he wouldn't have. And we shouldn't either. Now, I know that there are people who have had abortions and men who've been involved with them as well.

And all I can say is that is that you need to look to Jesus and you need to confess it.

To Christ.

You need to look to him and find forgiveness in him. If you have guilt or suppressed guilt, or if you think that certain things have happened in your life because of past abortions, the consequences have come to you, maybe just you believe them and no one else may.

Because you have guilt, because you wonder. Let me tell you, the blood of God on earth, on that cross, is greater than anything you could have done. And by trusting and putting your faith in what he has done, and only in what he has done, not his work and your baptism, not his work and your Eucharist and your priest and your whatever and your good works and all this stupidity, no.

The only one who can forgive you is the Lord Jesus Christ. He has all authority in heaven and earth. He died on the cross. He rose from the dead after three days. He commanded the storm to obey and it did.

And he said that if you ask him anything in his name, he will do it. He is one who forgives sins, so you need to go to him. And you'll find that freedom in him, that release in him. And trust him. But I have to warn you, to warn you about something.

You can go to Christ to be forgiven of such great sins, and he will. But if that's the only reason, well it may not be the right reason. You see, Jesus died to save us from our sins, not just one particular one.

If you're already a Christian, and this is over your head, hanging out on your heart, then go to Christ with that one, and you confess it. But if you're not a Christian, and you want to be freed from all of this, as well as other sins, you trust in Christ to forgive you.

You trust in him. You ask him to forgive you. But I have to warn you, that he will receive you as you are, and he'll cleanse you from your sins. But he won't leave you as you are. He'll never leave you.

He'll take you seriously, and he'll want you to change throughout your entire life. To be a follower of him, not of your own flesh, and not of somebody else, or a career, or an ideology, or a political party.

He wants himself to be the number one person in your life. And that's hard sometimes, but that's what he wants in exchange. He'll forgive you. And even if you don't follow him very well, he still forgives you.

But he wants you to count the cost. He will take you as you are, but he won't leave you as you are. He will work in your heart, and he will change you.

I know.

I've experienced it. So hey look, if you want to give me a call, all you have to do is dial 877 -207 -2276. You can also email me, info at karm .org, info at karm, C-A-R-M dot O-R-G. And we can get to it, put in the subject line, radio comment or radio question, and we'll.

Get to you.

Believers in Politics and the DNC

Let's get to Jermaine from California. Jermaine, we've got about a minute left before the break.

What do you got, buddy? Hi, Matt.

So today I just want to continue in the Believers in Politics, and I just finished the DNC. I tried to give it a chance, but it was disturbing to me because I saw several ministers, including Al Sharpton, who I kind of said lightly, but I noticed a lot of people criss-crossing the aisles in beliefs, and it made me go from wondering, can believers be in politics?

Are some of these people just outright, just damned? Because some of the things they were endorsing while enlisting their credentials as ministers and reverends and whatever, it was just completely blasphemous in my opinion.

We've got a break.

We've got a break.

I want you to come back and list a couple of things that they've said and done, and.

We'll get back.

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Okay.

Yeah, just as I was saying, yeah, I saw some things endorsed. And this is I'm strictly speaking for people who claim to be believers. And I kept hearing the phrase love who you want to love and women's, or what they call it, freedom of choice and women's health.

And, you know, of course we're for women's health, but that's usually a code word for something more nefarious. And then now Al Sharpton had said something that just was absolutely atrocious, where he said, basically, they were the party that helped bring gays out of the closet.

And then, of course, he identifies himself as a preacher. And it was just very, to me, it was insulting, you know, for someone to say something like that. And yeah, I wouldn't be attending his church.

I'll put it that way. But then the other thing I noticed was outside of the, of the DNC, they had, besides the barriers, they kept out the immigrants that they say begged to get over here. They also had abortion and vasectomy clinics set up outside so you can have it on demand.

And like I said, I'm not against, I'm not against, you know, men doing something, but that's, that's for yourself. That's, that's not eliminating another human being outright. So it's too many red flags for, for me, for any believers to actually consider is something you can, you can have as a political choice.

But it just made me wonder, are some of these people beyond compromising like they're just outright serving Satan?

Well, they are serving the devil. Absolutely. Al Sharpton is too. If we're going to become Christians and we're going to live for Christ and you don't support homosexuality, you don't put support killing babies.

You don't support socialism and communism and Marxism and things like this, which are all unbiblical. And so Jesus says, if you don't, if you say you know me and don't keep my commandments, the truth is not in you and you're a liar.

And that's first John two, four. So any preacher who gets up there to DNC and starts praising the democratic party, which is the party of slavery, Jim Crow laws, the LGBTQ idiocy, the DEI, the woke socialism, abortion.

No, I'm sorry. You can't call them brothers and sisters in Christ. You can't, and you shouldn't. And they need to be taken care of, you know, voided out and, and alike. But yeah, it's bad news. It is really bad news.

Thank you for that. I try to be fair and watch every agonizing minute. This one was particularly hard to get through, but just wanted to be informed. And I'm very glad I did.

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There is no way any of these people could ever get my vote just as a.

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I can't. And I know people will try to say, well, how could you pick the other side? It's like, at this point I'd be looking at policy and I understand why people wouldn't want to participate. That's their right.

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Anything and everything to keep these particular groups of people out, I think is vital. And what they did to RFK Jr. was just, it's supposed to be illegal, but of course they did it and, you know, he'll make his moves to do what he does.

But yeah, I just don't see how a believer could endorse these people.

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I don't either.

I don't either.

And what gets me, I was watching the news this morning with my wife and this leftist was talking about how horrible Trump was. Now I'm not saying he's the best, but they said this person said she was going to be going for Kamala because Kamala is wonderful.

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All right.

Life Continues at Conception, and Human Life in the Womb

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If you want to give me a call, the number is 8772072276. Let's get to John from Salt Lake city.

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Okay. Okay.

I'm not sure I'm understanding that.

Let's wait till the break and we'll go over it again.

Okay. All right, buddy. Okay.

Hey folks, be right back after these messages. The number is 877 -207 -2276. We'll be right back.

It's Matt Slick live taking your calls at 877 -207 -2276. Here's Matt Slick.

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Welcome back to the show. If you want to give me a call, 877 -207 -2276. Let's get back on with John. I'm so excited.

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That was my main question. What is the conception? I misheard you earlier.

So that's it. Thank you, Matt.

Okay. You're welcome. God bless.

All right.

The Gospel of John Is Not a Forgery

Okay.

We'll see.

Yeah.

All right. Now let's get onto, let's see, Dorothy from Virginia.

Hey, Dorothy, welcome.

You're on the air.

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Matt. Um, I just have a question. This is my favorite gospel, the book of John, um, the gospel of John. Someone said that that people are saying that's a forgery and I don't believe that. Have you heard that before?

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All right.

Okay. Thank you, Matt. That's all I had. Thank you.

You're welcome.

God bless.

Okay.

God bless. All right.

Prayer for Deliverance from Spiritual Oppression

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