Do Mormons Understand God?

Mormon Claims About God and Worship

I say this with all respect, but Mormons just don't understand what it is to have a God. And so it's fully understandable, given they completely redefined who God is. It's perfectly understandable for them to say this type of stuff.

But people need to understand, this is a common attitude that is expressed by Mormons and has been for a long time. This is one place there hasn't been much of a change.

Well, essentially, if Mormons in their worldview, if they had to worship God for all eternity, it would be hell for them, just because they would be sort of forced, subjugated to worship someone who they're trying to be.

So they'd be kind of stuck in a cycle of just jealousy. So that's my thoughts on it.

Romans 8 and Joint Heirs with Christ

For the rest of our lives, what is the purpose of this life? To learn how to worship? Yes, but also to learn how to be like Heavenly Father. In Romans 8, Paul is talking about how we can become heirs of the kingdom of God.

He specifically says, and if children, you know, the Spirit tells you that we are children of God, the Spirit will tell you that, and if children, then heirs, and heirs of God and joint heirs with Christ.

And if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

So not—.

There you go.

That's verse 17. And again, this is specifically about the elect of God, it is about those who are in Christ Jesus. It is not those who are according to the flesh. The whole point at the beginning of the chapter is to contrast those who are in the flesh against those who are in the Spirit, so on and so forth.

Yes.

Adoption, Children of Wrath, and John 1

And why does there need to be adoption in the first place? I mean, adoption is a beautiful term that's described. If we're naturally the children of God, why use this term adoption? Well, because we're not naturally the children of God.

We are the creations of God, and in the Old Testament, almost every time the term Father is used of God, it is in a creative context, and in that sense, he created all human beings. But as far as relationship is concerned, we have to be adopted.

We have to be brought into a situation that is not ours naturally. By nature, we are the enemies of God.

Children of wrath.

Children of wrath. And obviously, that means children can't be taken in a literal sense of offspring, because I don't know who Mrs. Wrath is. Do I have a wrath mommy? And I mean, yeah, I mean, it just doesn't make any sense at all.

Well, even the prologue in John 1, it says that he came to his own, his own did not receive him, but as many did receive him, he then gave them the right to become children of.

God.

So you see there's a differentiation. The same goes with Ephesians 2. You're children of wrath, and then you become children of God. I mean, it's, I would like to see these, if they listen to this video, is really try and give an answer.

How do you, in your worldview, what is a child of wrath, according to Ephesians 2? I don't think they have an answer for that.

Mormon Anthropology and the Doctrine of Sin

Let's recognize that the Mormon Church has never developed a consistent anthropology, because it doesn't have a theology upon which to define an anthropology. And then when it comes to Hamartiology, doctrine of sin, wow, what a mess.

What an inconsistent mess.

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