January 18, 2023 Show with Claude Ramsey on “The Mighty Works of God in the Psalms & Prophets”

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on this 18th day of January, 2023.

I'm absolutely thrilled and honored with the privilege of having on the program

once again a man by the name of Claude Ramsey, pastor of Reformata Baptist

Church of Knoxville, Tennessee.

He's also host of the Here I Stand Theology Podcast, and he's a speaker, one

of the speakers, at the upcoming open -air theology conference titled From

Shadows to Substance in Tullahoma, Tennessee, and we'll be telling you more about that

later.

But today, my guest, Claude Ramsey, is going to be discussing the theme, The

Mighty Works of God and the Psalms and Prophets.

It's my honor and privilege to welcome you back to Iron Sharpens Iron Radio, Claude Ramsey.

Thank you for having me, Chris.

I certainly appreciate this opportunity, sir.

Well, I certainly appreciate the opportunity to have you on the program.

The only time that Claude has been on the Iron Sharpens Iron Radio program so far,

other than today, before today, I was manning an exhibitor's

booth at the Fight, Laugh, Feast conference,

a conference of cross -politic in Knoxville, Tennessee.

How long ago was that, Claude?

That was back in October.

That was in October.

Wow, time flies.

And I was walking past a booth before the

Here I Stand Theology Podcast, and the host of that

podcast, who I am speaking with now, Claude Ramsey, called out to me.

He recognized me, I'm assuming from Facebook photos or something.

And he told me that he loved Iron Sharpens Iron Radio.

He asked me if he could interview me.

And then I also interviewed him on -site at that conference.

And I was struck by this dear brother's genuine humility

and passionate love for Jesus Christ and his gospel.

And I knew right then and there that this brother is going to become a lifelong friend.

And I trust that that will continue to occur, that our friendship will continue to grow

as the years progress, as long as the Lord gives us life.

And as I said, I am truly honored with your brotherhood, your friendship,

and your presence on Iron Sharpens Iron Radio today.

Let's hear about the Reformata Baptist Church of Knoxville, Tennessee.

All right, so Reformata Baptist Church was planted.

It'll be 15 years ago in May this year.

We planted the church there.

We, of course, you know, we're still a very small church.

We're still, as I say, in humble beginnings.

But we've moved from the living room to a garage, to a storefront,

to another storefront.

And then the Lord opened up the opportunity for us to get a building right down on

Chapman Highway in Knoxville.

So really, it's just a providential act of God that we

even are where we are now.

And it's by the goodness of God that we had the opportunity to gather as a church body.

Amen.

And I had the honor and privilege, after the Fight, Laugh, Feast conference,

I stayed in Knoxville an additional day and had the honor and privilege to hear

live, in person, Pastor Claude Ramsey preach at Reformata Baptist Church of

Knoxville.

And it is a beautiful country church.

It's a historic Methodist church, isn't it?

Yes, sir.

In 1850, it was built.

Yeah, and I really had a blessed time.

And I strongly urge any pastors listening, or anybody

who has the authority to invite speakers to come to your church, or

perhaps just to put a bug in the ear of your pastors,

elders, deacons, to invite someone to speak.

It would be Claude Ramsey.

I have a high recommendation of him.

I was extremely, profoundly blessed by his powerful preaching.

And now I know why my friend, Pastor Jeffrey Rice,

whose name is likely familiar to the Iron Trump and Zion Radio listeners

from the ads that air on this program every day, voiced by Dr. James R. White of

Alpha Omega Ministries for Post -Tenebrous

Lux Bible Rebinding.

It's a bit of a tongue twister.

And Jeffrey's having a conference, the very one that I mentioned, the Open Air Theology Conference from

Shadows to Substance.

And he invited Claude to be on the roster at that event.

And it's very easily understandable why Pastor Jeffrey Rice

would do that, because Claude is a really, really powerful preacher.

And also, you are, I found out not long ago, I didn't know this earlier, but you are

a mutual friend of my dear brother, Pastor Keith Foskey of Sovereign

Grace Family Church in Jacksonville, Florida.

How did you get to meet Pastor Keith?

Oh, goodness.

We are affiliated together on the Truth and Love podcasting network, but it's

one of those just kind of Internet friendships that began.

But the more we talk to each other, the faster friends we become.

He's a he is a that's another good, godly man.

And I know you've known him.

How long have you known him, Chris?

I think at least six years, if I'm not

mistaken, I met him.

He thinks that we may have met earlier at a Bible conference, but the

first time I was formally introduced to him was somewhere in the neighborhood of

five or six years ago when I was accompanying my former pastor, Mike

Gaydosh, of Solid Ground Christian Books

on a conference tour.

We were both hopping from one conference to another where he was selling books for

Solid Ground Christian Books.

And James White, Dr. James R. White of Alpha Omega Ministries,

was speaking at these conferences.

And he and Keith Foskey had invited Dr. White to speak at Sovereign Grace

Family Church in Jacksonville.

And that's when I had my first formal introduction to him.

And as God's providence would have it, I knew that my late

wives were one of my late wives of former pastors,

Andy Montoro.

I knew that he lived in Florida, and I knew that he did not live far from Jacksonville.

And I told him about this conference that I would be attending.

I had not seen him in many years, and I was

hoping to get the chance to rekindle a friendship with Andy and see him again.

Andy and Don Blind were the two pastors of First Baptist Church of Lindenhurst, Long Island, New York,

where my wife was a member, my late wife.

And when Andy came to the conference, he also

struck up a friendship with Keith, and now he's one of the pastors there.

It's a small world, isn't it?

At least to the Lord.

Yes, it is.

Now tell us about the Here I Stand Theology Podcast.

All right.

So the podcast, we just began the podcast in

January of 2020, is it now?

I can't think.

I've lost track of time, too.

But in January, I think it was of 2020.

Yeah, because this is 2023.

This will be starting our third year.

Yeah.

So a friend of mine, Matt Breeding, he's one of the contributors on the Truth and Love, on the

Labor's podcast on the Truth and Love Network.

And we had just, you know, it was just kind of a bug, just wanted to try to do something.

And our plan was to simply, you know, maybe do one episode a month at most.

But the more and more content we see, the more and

more friends we make, the more and more episodes tend to just kind of

appear out of thin air.

So but I'm still not I'm still not to the point like a lot of the good

podcasters where they've got it, they've got, you know, they do shows every day or at

least every week.

I'm not that hit.

I'm still hit and miss on that because my time's, you know, spread between the church and my family.

Oh, of course, you're a pastor, which I am not.

So I am more free to do these programs every day.

And how do our listeners find both information about

Reformation Baptist Church in Knoxville and also Here I Stand Theology podcast?

As far as the church content goes, it would be just Reformation

Baptist Church page on Facebook.

You know, we'd encourage folks, of course, go go to church on Sunday, find the church, get

plugged in, get tuned in in your spare time if you want to listen to us or watch a sermon from Reformation Baptist Church, do

that.

But and then for the podcast, it would be on YouTube at

Here I Stand Theology podcast.

And I think I can't remember really remember my handle on Twitter.

I think it's Here I Stand Theo.

And while you're at it, Keith Foskey posted a video.

He does comedic skits and he did the

funniest one yet that I have ever seen him do.

Absolutely hilarious, where he was posing as different

kinds of Christians, fundamentalist, Presbyterian, Reformed

Baptist, et cetera, who were representatives of different airlines.

Have you seen that one?

Yeah, that is that's his best one.

That was I was on the floor.

But if you have you go ahead, have you seen the one he did Jeopardy?

No, I didn't see that.

Yeah, he does the characters like they're on Jeopardy.

It's pretty good.

Oh, wow.

I've definitely got to see that.

Well, yeah, look up Keith Foskey on YouTube, Sovereign Grace Family Church.

I'm sure you'll somehow find his comedy, unless you know of another exact specific

way to find it, Claude.

Conversations with a Calvinist.

OK, Conversations with a Calvinist.

I had the privilege of being we were on kind of with each other back to back

last week or two.

So I was on his show and he was on ours previously.

We had some good conversations.

All right, now also tell us about this conference.

I'm very excited to hear about the Open Air Theology Conference, From Shadows

to Substance.

It is being held at Covenant Reformed Baptist Church in Tullahoma,

Tennessee.

And I know that at least now I've just found the dates.

It's February 16th through the 18th.

February 16th through the 18th at Covenant Reformed Baptist Church in Tullahoma, Tennessee.

You are one of many speakers.

Let's see, they've got two, six, nine, ten speakers

and you are one of them.

And tell us about this conference.

All right.

So, so, Jeff, originally the Open Air Theology Conference was

going to be on a different topic.

But Jeff and Braden and Haps, you know, decided he was

originally going to go with a kind of like an expository look,

walk through Ephesians.

Yeah, in fact, I interviewed Jeff on that and that was the theme.

And I thought something had changed the last time I look at the.

Yes.

So now it's shadows to substance, you know, looking at the Old Testament types and

shadows that point to Christ and and I'll have the privilege of

getting to speak on from David to Christ.

Oh, wow.

That's a key one for sure.

And if anybody wants more information on that,

you can go to Covenant Reformed Baptist Church's website

and it's on Even Bright as well.

But that's URL is very complicated to read on a radio show.

So I'm getting Jeffrey's Jeffrey Rice's.

His URL for Covenant Reformed Baptist Church of

Tullahoma and that website is.

Let's see here.

Sorry, folks, I should have had this all queued up already.

Covenant.

Oh, I just found it.

Covenant RBCTN dot com.

Covenant RBCTN dot com.

So I hope as many of you as possible will register for that and attend that

conference in Tullahoma, Tennessee, February 16th through the 18th, and we'll be repeating that information

later on.

Well, before we go into the theme of the mighty works of God and the Psalms and prophets,

I usually only do this or ask this of my guests when they're first time guests.

But technically, as far as my two hour live program, this is your first

time since the only other time, as I mentioned before, that you have been on Iron Trumpets Iron Radio

is when you conducted an on site interview, a much more brief interview

at my exhibitor booth at the Fight Laugh Feast conference in Knoxville.

So since you're the first time a first time guest on the two hour version of Iron Trumpets Iron Radio,

I would like you to once again provide for our listeners a summary of your salvation testimony, which would

include the kind of religious atmosphere, if any, in which you were raised in

the kind of providential circumstances or a sovereign Lord raised up in your life that drew you

to himself and saved you.

I'd love to hear that story again.

All right, thank you for the privilege to share this.

So a point in time, March 1987 is when I got saved.

Previous to that providential circumstance, looking back, of course,

I don't realize this, you know, until we get there in time, but providential circumstances, looking

back the way that the Lord worked things in our lives, we have, you know, we have

hurt and pain.

We have loss and gain.

We have all these things as a child.

My father died exactly one month before I turned seven, which my mom was

saved.

But kind of in that loss in her life, you know, she

kind of reached out.

And again, I do not want to cast my mother in a bad light.

She was a good, godly woman, but she was just like the rest of us.

She was a sinner and prone to sin.

So she, you know, entered a series of relationships which carried us kind

of, I won't say around the United States, but carried us from here in Tennessee where we grew up

and to, I grew up in a little town called Merrillville, about 20 minutes from here in Knoxville,

carried us to Knoxville and then carried us to South Carolina for a period of time, particularly my seventh and eighth grade

school years.

But when we came back during my eighth grade school year, the Lord

placed a good friend in my life at school and he invited

me to go to church with him.

And, you know, we hadn't, my mother hadn't instituted kind of a going back to church policy yet,

but he invited me to go to church with him, to go to youth group with him.

And he invited me to go to, of all places, Nashville, Tennessee with, you know, where you've got five

thousand teenage hooligans running around with shorts

on their heads and acting a fool.

Shorts on their heads.

Well, that was probably the least of the things that went on.

There's a lot of stuff that goes on at youth conventions that shouldn't.

But nevertheless, the gospel was proclaimed.

And that Friday night, sitting up high in the balcony at Vanderbilt, Nashville, Tennessee,

the Holy Spirit convicted my heart and I got born again.

Like I told you at the conference, Mr. Aronson, I got born again that day and the Lord, I mean, the Lord

saved me.

He made me a new creature.

I've been imperfect ever since, but I've been moving ever in growing ever in

sanctification because of his Holy Spirit that lives in me.

So long in the short, that's my testimony of salvation.

Hallelujah.

And how did you discover and come to embrace the doctrines of sovereign grace, also known as

reformed theology and also known and nicknamed as Calvinism?

I love that question.

I absolutely love it because here's the thing that I surrendered my call to preach when

I was 17 years old and some people might ask, were you have you always

been reformed since the Lord saved you and since the Lord called you to preach as well?

And my answer is yes, but at the time I didn't know it, I wasn't able to

articulate.

I wasn't able to, you know, explain those ideas and really, you know, for, for a

lot of folks, I think reformed folks, particularly you, and you've probably heard folks use this

terminology when you may, you may have heard somebody ask when were they converted to Calvinism,

right?

When did you accept Calvinism into your heart or John Calvin into your heart?

But it's, it's really, reformed theology is, is really something that you grow

into.

And I think it's best approached where you don't, you don't force the ideas on

yourself by, by the theology books that back the scripture, but you go to the

scripture and we let the scripture shape our thoughts and our

perceptions of what is what, theologically speaking.

Yeah.

I have spoken with many folks, especially pastors

who, when they, before they were in the ministry,

they came purely through hearing the Bible accurately

taught and reading the scriptures and studying the scriptures before they even ever

knew anything that was labeled reformed theology, before they had even known who John

Calvin was, even before they had known who Charles Spurgeon was or George Whitfield,

they, they came to believe these teachings that we call reformed.

And then later they discovered, Oh, this actually has a name.

This has a historic context too.

And so it is a, it is a lie that is often hurled at

us that that Christians would never

believe in the doctrines of sovereign grace unless they also

had a source of learning outside of the

scriptures to teach them that.

And that is just not true.

Now, do many people through a sovereign grace, believing

reformed Calvinist teacher, preacher, writer, do many people come to these teachings

by hearing these.

Men?

Yes, of course they do.

But these men are expounding the scriptures.

That's the, that's the thing that is like, for instance, I, when I

first started hearing about unconditional election, I was very

troubled about, by, I was visiting Calvary Baptist church of

Amityville, which would later be the place where I was baptized by Mike

Gaydosh, who now runs a solid ground Christian books.

He was the pastor of that church, which would later merge with first Baptist church in

Merrick, Long Island to form the grace reformed Baptist church of Long Island in Merrick.

But when I heard Mike, it was actually on a break at a Bible study on the book of Ephesians.

He was, it was on a break.

We were having a coffee break for snacks and, and so forth.

And I overheard him speaking with some other young men.

I was in my twenties at the time.

He was talking about a unconditional election with them.

And I walked over, I could still remember saying, you believe what?

And he explained and a little bit more.

And I said, man, that sounds weird to me.

I, that sounds more like Hinduism or something.

God chooses some people.

I don't even know what it sounds like.

It doesn't sound anything like I ever thought Christianity was.

I had been raised Roman Catholic and the only evangelical experiences I had

when I left Catholicism were in the church of Christ, which is

varying from ultra Arminian to Pelagian in their mindset, although they

would never call it that themselves.

And also Pentecostal churches.

I had never, before Calvary Baptist church of Amityville, I had never set my foot in a

reformed church or picked up a book by a reformed author or heard a reformed preacher

anywhere.

So this was all new to me.

And when I was being interviewed for

baptism, I said, brothers, I love you.

I trust you with all my heart to be faithful guides and shepherds

over my life.

I want to be a member of this church where you pastor, but I gotta be honest with you.

I don't think I'm ever going to believe in this Calvinism stuff.

And they said, well, we are not going to require that you understand and believe

those things to baptize you.

You just have to believe that you are a sinner deserving of hell

and that you need to trust in the

triune God and the death of Christ on Calvary's cross and

his bodily resurrection to enter into eternal life.

That is your only hope for the payment of your sin.

And if you believe that, we will baptize you and even welcome you into membership.

And we would just insist if we welcomed you into membership in the church that you not

undermine our teachings with other people.

You know, they didn't want me running up to people after a sermon telling them, you hear those

lies, you know.

So I agree to that.

And but then within weeks, a British gentleman who became a very dear friend of mine,

Nigel Stone, who's now in heaven, he approached me and he said in his very deep

British accent, I heard that you're having problems understanding the doctrine of

unconditional election.

Well, here's a booklet that would be of great help to you.

George Whitfield's letter to John Wesley on election.

And I read the book cover to cover.

And my first reaction was, oh, no, this is true.

But I still hate it.

This is really what the Bible teaches, but I hate it.

But then, thankfully, within, I think, less than a month, I came to fall in

love, madly in love with these teachings.

And it made my connection to

Christ finished work on the cross so much more personal.

In my mind, he was no longer a God who

offered his son to die for a faceless, nameless sea

of people that he was trying to save.

That that came to an end.

And I came to really understand and cherish the fact

that Jesus Christ died for Chris Arnson and that he finished that work.

He completed it.

He completed it was 100 percent success.

He accomplished what he intended to do, and it just radically transformed my understanding of

Christ's death.

But that is all to say that it was not the words of

George Whitfield that brought me to understand these things, because, number one,

I didn't even know who George Whitfield was when I was handed that booklet.

I didn't know who John Wesley was.

But it was the Bible.

It was the scriptures that George Whitfield preached back to Wesley

in writing.

That's what convinced me.

It was the scriptural evidence that overwhelmed Wesley's

arguments and annihilated them.

And I had every one of, or should I say, every one of

my arguments against Calvinism were regurgitated by Wesley.

And he had even more that I hadn't even thought of that were annihilated by Whitfield.

So the Bible is completely sufficient to teach us these things.

And through the power of the Holy Spirit, draw us to believe them.

It does not require an extra -biblical, non -canonical source, as

our opponents in theology would claim.

Amen.

And on top of that, not only do we get to be Reformed, but we get to be Reformed Baptists.

That's right.

Go ahead.

Oh, go ahead.

No, no, you go ahead.

I think about something Spurgeon said in a, what was it called?

Let me look here.

It was in Spurgeon's tribute to his godly mother at the end.

He said this.

My mother said to me one day, Ah, Charles, I often prayed to the Lord to make you a Christian, but I

never asked that you might become a Baptist.

And Spurgeon, in his wit, said I could not resist the temptation to reply.

Ah, mother, the Lord has answered your prayer with his usual bounty, giving you exceeding, abundantly above

all that you ask for from God.

Yes, and I have met men who,

through reading the scriptures only, came to an understanding of the Reformed faith,

having not yet heard about what the Reformed faith was all about, and

denominational affiliations and so forth.

And the first group that they discovered afterward were Presbyterians who

were teaching this.

So they became Presbyterian, and then later on they were like, Wait a minute, I just found out

they were Reformed Baptists because that's really what I believe.

I just didn't think they exist.

I didn't think they existed.

And they later became Reformed Baptists because of that.

I mean no insult to my Presbyterian friends by that, by the way.

I probably interview more Presbyterians on this show than Reformed Baptists, so please don't be insulted.

But it's just, I think it is interesting that that has happened many times in the

lives of people whom God has led me to meet.

But we have to go to our first commercial break, and when we come back we're going to be entering into the theme The Mighty Works of God and the Psalms

and Prophets.

And if you'd like to join us on the air for the question for Claude Ramsey, send me an email to chrisarnsen

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And before we go to our midway break, which is going to be coming up

sooner than you know it, let's start into the discussion of the mighty works of God and the Psalms and Prophets.

Why is it, first of all, that you wanted to discuss this great theme today?

Well, honestly, Mr. Aronson, this is something that's constantly kind of on my mind

and in my heart to communicate the importance of both the Old and the New

Testament.

I think what happens a lot of times is that there's a tendency

for us as believers to get unbalanced, right, where we tend to lean more

maybe toward New Testament reading only and we leave out and neglect the Old Testament.

But the Old Testament are the types and shadows that point us forward to

our Lord Jesus Christ.

So this is actually, I chose this topic when I was so thankful that you allowed me to

choose the topic on this, that this was something that actually was my

conference topic.

I spoke in a conference about early last year and this was my topic.

So I just wanted to communicate, number one, the beauty

and the glory of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, and secondly, to communicate the beauty

and the glory and the sufficiency of the Scripture itself and how it points us to the Lord.

Praise God.

Well, begin with some of the first examples that you would like to share with

us about the mighty works of God and the Psalms and Prophets.

So I'd like to begin actually by quoting one of the Puritans, William Grinnell.

He said this, whenever you read any promise, remember whose bond it is.

It's the Word of God and no other.

And when you think on God, be sure you do not confine him within the little compass of your finite

apprehensions, but conceive of him always as an infinite being whose center is

everywhere and circumference nowhere.

When you have raised your thoughts to the highest, then know you are as far, yea,

infinitely farther from reaching his glory and immensity than a man is from touching the body of the sun

when he climbs up on a mountain.

This is to ascribe greatness to God as we are commanded, and it will admirably

facilitate the work of believing.

So when we go to the scriptures, we should look to the scriptures

to see Christ, right?

I think a lot of the modern ideology and the modern eisegesis that happens a

lot of times is that folks are reading the Bible to find themselves, but we don't look at

the scriptures to find ourselves.

We look at the scriptures to see Christ, and the Word of God itself

is a treasure.

I mean, and treasures don't unearth themselves, right?

The scriptures are a land that will never be mined out.

So like Paul told Timothy, for example, right?

Study to show yourself approved, a workman unto God that does not need to be ashamed,.

Right?

So he told him that, rightly dividing the word of truth.

And so the aim and the goal of this topic and this conversation is really

so that we, number one, as Christians, see the mighty acts of God in the Psalms and in

the prophets, but we do so with a view to Jesus Christ, ultimately, that when we look

to the scriptures, we are looking to Christ.

As a matter of fact, the scriptures say this, it's to Christ, which all the law and the prophets point

to.

Well, praise God.

And when we talk about the mighty works of

God, what stands out first and foremost

in your mind when you are viewing the Psalms and the prophets as your source for this

information?

Well, particularly our focus here on this topic in this

conversation is really Psalm 33, the aim and the goal.

Although we can't go, you know, I know we can't necessarily plumb the depths because there's not the

time doesn't afford us that.

But Psalm 33 really is an encapsulation of so many things today.

For example, I mean, just verse 1, 2, and 3, right?

If we break it up into bite -sized chunks, the psalmist says,

shout for joy to the Lord, O you righteous.

Praise befits the upright.

Give thanks to the Lord with the lyre.

Make melody to him with a harp of ten strings.

Sing to him a new song.

Play skillfully on the strings with loud shouts.

I think this here is where it begins because we are called as believers in Christ Jesus

to give praise to the Lord.

And in one of the best, I think one of the best

remedies for us as Christians because sadly in this life, in this world, it seems like

all that we face is, you know, turmoil and trouble and trials and tribulations and sorrow.

Our best step is to do like the psalmist said in another place, look

under the hills from whence our help comes from, right?

And that requires praising the Lord.

Now, I understand that, you know, folks praise and worship the Lord in

different ways.

Nevertheless, we are called to worship God, to praise God.

Praise him not for any other reason than simply who he is

and what he has done.

And that not even being necessarily anything good to us because he is

of himself good and worthy of our praise.

Well, we have to go to our midway break right now.

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Give us your first name at least, your city and state, and your country of residence.

Pastor Claude, we have a recent

addition to the Iron Sharpens Iron Radio audience who's been contacting us with

excellent questions quite often lately.

His name is Ramon, and he is from Metro Manila in the Philippines,

and he says, in the Psalms, sometimes God is being called on to

shatter the teeth of someone's enemies and other such

supplications.

Is it okay to pray likewise today?

How do Psalms like these square with Christ's teaching that we should love our enemies?

And it's very providential that Ramon from Metro Manila in the Philippines

asked that question because it came up in a Bible study I attended today with

the Christian Businessmen's Connection at Fay's Country Kitchen in Carlisle,

Pennsylvania.

That very question came up from someone in the Bible study,

and Ramon is referring to what has been called or what have been

called the imprecatory Psalms, and there are quite a number of them,

Psalm 69, Psalm 109, and many others.

So if you could,.

Claude, answer our listener from the Philippines.

That was a great question, and so I would say, in short, as

briefly and succinctly as I can put it, I would say that those imprecatory Psalms, the psalmist

asking the Lord to break the teeth of his enemies, so on and so forth, and how they square with us as

Christians.

In the New Testament, we are taught that vengeance is mine, says the Lord.

We're not to repay our enemies evil for evil, and so judgment

is the Lord's.

So I would say that it squares with the Psalms and the New Testament

principle that's taught by the Lord himself is that it squares because the psalmist

is not determining for himself to execute judgment, but he's

asking God to execute judgment on his enemies, and so one of

the most both comforting

and frightening places that a person can be is in the hands of the Lord.

So I would say it squares because it's asking God to do these things and not

being carried out because the wrath of man does not produce righteousness.

What would you say, Chris?

Well, I can't improve upon that, and I must admit there are times

when I am uncertain which way to lean on the way I pray, the manner

with which I pray to God when faced with the horrible dilemma of

being treated harshly and unlovingly and cruelly

by someone, especially somebody who has betrayed a friendship.

I battle with how I should pray.

In fact, I heard of a nightmarish incident

today at that very same Bible study, which is actually what evoked the question

that was echoed by Ramon in the Philippines.

I'm not going to mention this elder's name until he gives me permission to

publicly require, or should I say publicly request prayer, but

an elder that I've heard of—in fact, he is a man who attended

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separated—and he attempted to murder

this elder's daughter.

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So, it has been very admirable and honorable to hear this elder

making requests for public prayer, not only for the life of his daughter to be

saved, but that the soul of his son -in -law be saved.

So, it is an interesting fact that

in this situation, the kind of horrible situation that

has few rivals in its intensity, this man is still preaching out with love to his son -in

-law.

But there are differences, though, because when we

read the imprecatory psalms, they're usually in reference to ongoing

persecution that also involves not only one

person—it involves usually not just the psalmist, but perhaps the entire nation

of Israel, and it's an ongoing thing.

Isn't that somewhat different?

Yeah, and you said Psalm 109, right, was one of those imprecatory psalms that you were referencing?

Yes.

So, if we go over to it real quick here.

Yeah, I mean, there's a lot going on in

those psalms.

I mean, there's a lot of context that you could go to different

specific things that are going on in the psalmist's life at that time.

You know, like, of course, Psalm 51, the Psalm of Forgiveness, you know, that was after

the whole Bathsheba and Uriah incident, right?

But when we go to something like this, I think, like he says, he's

literally calling out because wicked and deceitful mouths are opened against me.

He says, they're speaking against me with lying tongues.

They're encircling me with words of hate and attacking me without cause.

In return for my love, they accuse me.

And like you had mentioned, you were talking about betrayal earlier.

That's going on here in this psalm.

So, they reward me evil for good.

And actually, to jump back in another area of the psalms, if you go back

to Psalm 73, again, this mindset, this cry, this plea that the

psalmist, that we see repeated throughout the psalms because we see the gamut of

the heights of joy and the depths of despair in the psalms.

But in Psalm 73 itself, actually, the psalmist writes these words, you know, he

said, truly, I feel like, just to summarize Psalm 73, he said, truly,

I feel like that all I've done has been a waste of time because the wicked seem to continue

to have their way.

The wicked seem to continue to get along.

But then, toward the end of that psalm, the psalmist said in verse 16, when I thought to

understand this, it seemed to me a wearisome task until, and there's that turning,

that phrase, that turning phrase, until I went into the sanctuary of God,

and then I discerned therein.

So, again, it's that, it's easy for us, easy

for us as human beings because, Chris, I can tell you from personal experience, I mean, as a,

not to go into it, but as a teenager, I literally, I'm

sad to say it, but I literally, even as a young Christian, I would have killed my

oldest brother for the things that he did to my family if I could have just at that moment gotten to him.

But in time, my eyes turn from my

circumstance, from the incidents that are taking place in my life where, like the psalmist said,

you just sometimes, when the world seems like it's spinning, just stop.

Just stop.

Be still and know He's God.

Now, how can we know He's God?

We've got to go to the scripture.

That's what the psalmist said.

Until I went into the sanctuary, I didn't understand, but then I understood therein.

And he realized that truly, the wicked are set in slippery places.

And he said, my soul was embittered.

I was pricked in my heart.

And then the psalmist had to declare something that's hard for any of us to declare.

He said, I was brutish and ignorant.

He said, Lord, I was acting like a beast towards you.

Nevertheless, he remembered this, that I am continually with you because you

hold on to my right hand.

Wouldn't you remember as a Christian that no matter how out

of whack things seem to get, that we are held by the hand of God, that

we like to use the terms that we are holding on to God ourselves, but

He is holding on to us.

And were it not for His strong and mighty hand, again, that's another reference

in the Old Testament, by the strong hand of the Lord, they were brought out of Egypt.

And by the strong hand of the Lord, they were delivered.

But David closes that Psalm 73 by saying this.

He said, my flesh and my heart fails, but God

is the strength of my heart and my portion forever.

Hallelujah.

We have an anonymous listener who asks, I am in dialogue

with word of faith Pentecostals, and I am wondering if you have

the occasion to speak with these folks as well.

One of the reasons I'm asking this is, have you ever asked them how on

earth they could come to the conclusions they come to in their heretical understandings of health,

wealth, and prosperity being guaranteed to Christians who have strong faith

when they read the Psalms?

Because the Psalms are vivid God -breathed proof that this theology is false

when we read over and over again the agony with which God's servants

live through as they cry out to Him for mercy.

Great question.

Great question.

So on that question, I say, yes, I have very much interacted with

word of faith, Pentecostals, and charismatics, and I do want to

interject this statement that not all charismatics are that far out

there.

The word of faith heresy is, as I

shared with Keith Foskey recently, it's sewage is exactly what it is.

And sadly, it's sewage.

In an old John Popper sermon, actually, he said this.

He said a bunch of crap called the gospel is being exported to other countries in the name

of Christ, and it's not the gospel itself.

It's not the biblical gospel.

It's that word of faith heresy.

And now, how in the world they still, to this day, I mean,

there is literally, when you take the scripture at face value, and I know when we talk about reading

the scripture literally, I want to be clear in this, that we mean the literal sense in

which it is written, the literal grammatical historical sense, right?

So when that is written, you do not see a, now,

let me play devil's advocate for just a moment.

Is that okay, Chris?

Absolutely.

Okay.

So devil's advocate says, yes, you see, and you hear, and you read

God promising prosperity and even health to individuals in the Old Testament.

However, that is under the covenant of works.

That is not the covenant of grace.

The covenant of grace is not an agreement between us and God.

It's the covenant of grace is God's unilateral covenant with man.

It's not dependent upon us in any way.

So those conditions, those circumstances, those blessings were conditional based upon

their obedience.

Now, in the new covenant, we don't live by the covenant of works.

We live by the grace of God.

The grace of God throughout the scriptures, it's taught that it cannot be earned, it cannot be merited,

it cannot be achieved by any amount of good works.

The Apostle Paul in Philippians even said these, he said, look, if anybody has a

right to claim they're righteous, it's me.

He said, I'm a Hebrew of a Hebrew, a Pharisee of Pharisees.

I circumcised the eighth day of the tribe of Benjamin.

He said, basically, he began to list off all the things that he did, and then he says, but you know what?

When it comes down to it, everything I did was done in the sight and in the

light of the grace and the glory and the beauty of the gospel of Jesus

Christ, the work that Christ himself alone accomplished.

And he wants to be, he said this, he said, I want to be found in him having, I want to be found in

him having his righteousness.

So that health and wealth, word of faith, prosperity gospel message is something that we do

tackle.

We tackle it on the Here I Stand Theology podcast, and sadly, I have to tackle it.

I've tackled it throughout the years.

There's, you know, there's, it's easy to call out national local heritage, right?

It's easy to call names like Duplantis and Osteen and all those other guys.

But I would ask this to the individuals that are asking this question.

If you're a member of a local church, is your pastor

versed in the word of faith theology and the heretical nature of it?

And then maybe point your pastor to books

and scripture that literally just lays out before you plain that any

biblical gospel call, Jesus didn't say, follow me and you'll have health, wealth, and

prosperity.

Jesus said, look, if you want to follow me, he said, this is what's going to happen.

You got to number one, deny yourself.

You got to take up your cross and then you got to.

Follow me.

Amen.

Amen.

Well, thank you, Anonymous.

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We have a BB in Cumberland County, Pennsylvania, who wants to know

if you can boil it down to one Psalm, which is your favorite and why?

Oh, goodness.

That is a great question as well.

But again, if I had to do that, I would have

to say that Psalm 33 is probably my favorite because there's so much

in Psalm 33.

I mean, we have the exhortation to praise God.

We have the importance of the Word of God, you know, what the Word of God is, what the Word of God

does, basically.

We have the call to stand in awe of God.

We have all these commands.

We even have, in Psalm 33, you have the counsel of the Lord said against, or kind of

a contrast, a juxtaposition, if you would have it, to the counsel of the nations, how that the

counsel of the Lord is better than the counsel of the nations.

And then again, as the Psalms typically do, they kind of bring us to

a—ultimately, they always give us and point us to a confidence in the great

God that we serve, and the fact that He is the one that's keeping us, and He is the one

that's caring for us.

So Psalm 33 would have.

To be my favorite.

And because we are pressed for time, I cannot read the

entire Psalm, Psalm 33, but I would like to read verses

18 through 22, the concluding verses.

Behold, the eye of the Lord is on those who fear Him, on those who wait for His faithfulness

to rescue their soul from death and to keep them alive in famine.

Our soul waits for the Lord.

He is our help and our shield, for our heart rejoices in Him, because we trust in His holy name.

Let your favor, Lord, be upon us, just as we have waited for you.

Amen.

I just am so moved by those words, and

the Psalms are such a great way—I mean,

universally known to biblically literate Christians—to minister to the

hearts especially of those who feel like they're at the end of their ropes,

they're in their darkest days, they have no hope

in the near future, in their tunnel vision during their problems

and their trials and tribulations, and the Psalms can minister in such a powerful way

among other scriptures, all scriptures God breathed, but the Psalms

definitely have a unique place in the ministry of God's people to the lost.

Amen.

And in the ministry of God's people to their brothers and sisters in Christ, of course, as well.

Amen.

And I find, Mr. Arnson, that that's one of the—I

think if as brothers and sisters in Jesus Christ, if when, as they

should, particularly in the local church context, but even when we're separated by

space and time, right, in our different geographic locations, I think when as

brothers and sisters in Christ, when our brother and sister reaches out and says, pray for me,

I'm really in a dark place right now, I'm going through a

legitimately horrible and awful time, I think sometimes that we tend

to over -verbalize and kind of

prescribe a remedy that is not the remedy that Christians need.

Our remedy, our health, if you would have it, our joy, our hope, and our strength,

it comes from God in His Word.

And that just being in the scriptures and in exhorting,

encouraging one another to look to the scriptures, there is just a—it is a

timeless, it is the timeless standard for hope and

encouragement, because unlike everything else in this world that is ebbing

and flowing, rising and falling, the Word of God, it just stays,.

It just stays steadfast.

Amen.

We have an anonymous listener, another anonymous listener who has a question for you.

He said, I'm sure I am not alone in this, but at times

when I read the scriptures, and perhaps in particular in the Psalms and other places in

the Old Testament Hebrew scriptures, I long for a day when

I can see visually and grasp physically and tangibly

these mighty acts of God that were far more spectacular in

the way they are described in the Old Testament than we see

in our day -to -day lives today in the 21st century.

I know that it is a profound and mighty miracle of God that a

lost sinner would come to Christ, and I know that there are many things that take place

every day in our earth that are marvelous and mighty works of

God.

But at the same time, I think I understand why those who are led into the

Charismatic and Pentecostal churches feel such a drawing power to these

movements, because they want to see these things occurring here and now.

How do you respond to people that have this strong longing for these things, which

are not happening today in the magnitude that they did in the Old Testament?

Again, wow, these questions are fantastic, and I

am not sufficient in and of myself to probably give satisfactory answers, but I will certainly

do my best here.

And to that question, and to that, that was a large comment

too, to that statement, I would encourage, how was it, Mr. Ormson, that they

phrased the last part of that question?

How would I encourage?

I already deleted the question, but I believe he was basically

saying, how do you reach out to people who are longing for this

insistence or this desire to see the spectacular,

miraculous, mighty works of God like they occurred in the Old Testament stories that we all love?

All right, so let me start here by saying this.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with wanting to see miraculous

events like what took place in the Old Testament and in the New Testament.

There is a balance to be struck, however, here for us as believers to understand and to

realize that what we read in the Scriptures took place

over 1 ,400 to 1 ,600 years.

What we read in the Scriptures, these miracles that happen and that occur, were not like

rapid fire, like when you are reading through the Scriptures, they were happening.

They themselves were few and far between.

So I think it is just getting, like I said, getting ourselves a

balanced view of the Scriptures to understand that, yes, absolutely, the things that took

place were supernatural.

They were the work of God.

They were by definition miracles, which means it cannot be accomplished by men.

That is what makes a miracle a miracle, that it is only accomplished by God Himself.

So to communicate that to our brothers and sisters who

want the continuation of these miracles to happen

and to take place, it is almost like at times that they want to see

these things as a sign or a proof from God, but

God has proven who He is.

From the beginning of creation to where we are now and to wherever He takes us, He

has proven Himself already, and He has done so with continuity throughout

history, and we have it recorded for us in the text of Scripture.

Now, can God do miracles today?

Yes, absolutely.

I am of the persuasion that if God wants to heal,

He can heal anybody of anything He wants to.

Can God raise the dead?

Yes, God can absolutely do those things, but here is the rub.

He does not need us to do any of that, and that is what the word of faith and the

charismatic movement seeks, is for the power to be in the individual human being

when there is one that is worthy of praise and one that is able to do the things that He did, and that

is God.

And of course, we must never forget the warning from the God -breathed Scriptures

about those who insist upon such spectacular manifestations

as their only way of validating truth.

We have that classic passage in Matthew 16 verse 4,

an evil and adulterous generation seeks after a sign, and a sign will not be given it except the sign

of Jonah.

And also, one of the verses

that you very rarely hear as a proof of

unconditional election and the Reformed ordo salutis, that

regeneration precedes faith, you

very rarely hear this text being used, but I think it

screams that.

When we have the story of the rich man and Lazarus in

Luke 16, 19 through 31, and it's

interesting that when we have the rich man in hell crying out to Abraham,

he says, let's see, where was I?

I beg you, Father, that you send him, meaning Lazarus,

to my father's house.

And what he's basically asking is that Lazarus, since he is dead, that Abraham raises him from

the dead.

I beg you that you send him, Lazarus, to my father's house where I have five brothers in order that he

may warn them so that they will not also come to this place of torment.

But Abraham said, they have Moses and the prophets.

Let them hear them.

But he said, no, Father Abraham, but if someone goes to them from the dead, they

will repent.

But he said to him, if they do not listen to Moses and the prophets, they will not be persuaded, even

if someone rises from the dead.

That is proof, in my opinion, that no matter what kind of miracle anybody sees, if they are not born

from above first, if they are not given a new heart and new eyes and new ears

where they can understand and trust in the scriptures,.

They're not going to care about these miracles.

That's right, because it'll be just like anything else.

They'll need more and more and more to keep them going and to keep them up,

rather than depending on the fixed, settled word of God.

Amen.

Well, we have to go to our.

Final break.

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We have time for one last question.

Bobby in Hartsdale, New York wants to know if you have your thoughts on the

very theme you are speaking today either in sermon form,.

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Most want etched in their hearts and minds regarding this topic.

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text earlier, Mr. Arnzen, is simply this, that the Christian

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knowledge, and the richness of the text of Scripture, and that the lost

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that our sins have separated us from a holy God, but that Christ

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faithfulness of his word, and the truth of his word, he will one day return again, and the

church will be caught out of this world, and we'll be brought home to be with him forever.

So repent and believe the gospel of Jesus Christ, and you will be saved.

Reject the gospel, and you will be forever damned.

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