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All right we got 10 minutes of Ruslan left. I know this is gonna make some people very upset but that's okay. We got to finish this. We're so close. You just gotta sometimes you just gotta commit but anyway so I'll do that.
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Let's dive right in socialism doesn't work. That's right.
It's bad it's not helpful. And you seems like places like Florida and Texas that are a little more free market open up seems like they're thriving it seems like the rates are the same. It is something to that we should examine that right.
And so again I'm just I'm not binary in these in these things in an absolute standpoint and maybe that's why maybe that's maybe that's my definition of fundamentalism where I'm just like I'm not gonna take a firm stance on.
These things. But you should finna be doing that because because because the thing is we don't have to just see how the results are that's fine if you want to see like what works you know we understand that the way God made the world is gonna work better than the other way.
But the thing is like we should be fundamentalist about this because the scripture does allow us to do certain things and it certainly disallows other things. We need to be fundamentalist about those things like if the Bible says something is wrong we ought to believe it's wrong.
And we don't need to be apologetic for that. We don't need to bend the rules. You don't need to be soft pedaling that that's how it is. And so economics are a big part of that. You know we understand from the scripture what's appropriate and what's not.
And it so happens that the stuff that God says is appropriate works the best. And it's not a mystery. It's because he created the world he knows how these things work. And so I don't know why people are so afraid of being called a fundamentalist.
I mean you should be a fundamentalist about so many things you should and I'm using his definition of fundamentalism. He just said that you know if you're you know hardcore if you're you know you're you believe in hardcore right and wrong.
And this is right and these are wrong. Like that's fundamentalism. I don't think that's actually true but I'm just using his definition anyway. Let's continue on all.
Of these things we'll agree on the essentials. I'm with you on the essentials and I am. I actually want to hear more like tell me some books to read.
Send me some videos. So the primary one I mean obviously I would go with like anything Greg Bonson right. By the standard. By what. Standard from Greg Bonson I think is tremendous I mean even as I mean obviously pre social justice.
Pharisees woke church tactics and how to engage them. That's my recommendation for you Ruslan. And I think I'm gonna send you a copy of my book. You know what. I'm gonna send you a copy of my book free of charge if I can find out where to send it.
But you know Russell you you know you deserve it you deserve it. And I'm not gonna take funds out of the GoFundMe for this one because I don't necessarily think that you're part of Big Eva. So I want to make sure to keep those funds you know pure.
I want to make sure the only Big Eva is getting fun from the Big Eva fundraiser. I don't think Ruslan's part of Big Eva. He's definitely woke. Definitely woke. But he certainly seems to be a little bit on the outskirts like he was kind of like dogging like Piper and stuff like that earlier.
You can't do that if you're part of Big Eva. You're either in the guild you're out of the guild. I don't think Ruslan's in the guild but he's definitely woke. And he's definitely could benefit from social justice.
Pharisees woke church tactics and how to engage them. And so Ruslan I'm gonna send.
You a copy. Apologetics. But by what standard. And by the standards. Pretty pretty incredible. But for sure for sure since you're already hold hold to at least free market in some aspects. Look up David Chilton's.
It's called guilt. It's the worst name. It's called productive Christians in an age of guilt.
Manipulator yeah I have that I have that pulled up on my Amazon so yeah it's also.
Free. I think the PDF is yeah yeah. So that book is so good. I highly recommend that book as well. It's called productive Christians in an age of guilt manipulators and Marcus is right. That's not a great title but the reason it's titled that is because it's a response book.
It's actually responding to a socialist book by Ron Sider called rich Christians in an age of hunger or something like that. So you know rich Christians in an age of hunger and then productive Christians in an age of guilt manipulation.
So it's a response book. And this is important because this woke stuff this socialism stuff that that that Ruslan is promoting a lot of the time. It's not new. Christians have been promote well I should say profess Christians have been promoting this kind of thing for quite some time and Ron Sider is their grandfather.
And so it's so relevant like this book was written in the 80s. But since the arguments aren't new it's so relevant like it's one of those books that if you highlight it you're gonna highlight the entire book.
It's just it's amazing. I highly recommend it. It's free for PDF. I'll try to remember to put that PDF in the comments here. Productive Christians in an age of guilt manipulators. Fantastic.
Work so way better than my book and someone is saying victims rights by Gary North which which I heard is really good but I haven't read that one yet. Gary North is good in general. Ethics is really good too.
But um but but yeah so.
Thanks. Thanks for those suggestions. Chat. Gary North is good in general and you know he agrees. What I like about Gary North is his stuff is not as revolutionary as Rush Dooney stuff was but he's a better theologian than Rush Dooney so in other words you know he Gary North in my opinion is better because he understood more the importance of the church and stuff like that more than Rush Dooney did doesn't mean Rush Dooney was wrong about everything but.
But I think that Gary North though I prefer some of Rush Dooney's books is Gary North is more right about things and he criticized Rush Dooney about certain things at the time and they didn't shy away from fighting each other and stuff like that although they were friends anyway.
Gary North stuff. You almost can't go wrong with a Gary North book unless it's about.
Y2K yeah David Chilton. So David Chilton is actually responding to Ron Snyder. He was doom and gloom about Y2K wealthy Christians in the age of I forget what. It doesn't matter but anyway Ron Snyder is the guy that started evangelicals for Biden.
But David Chilton this is probably back in the 80s wrote this response to his book which was wealthy Christians and it was it was a Christian defense of socialism is what Ron Snyder did. Okay and then Chilton responded with his book.
Productive Christians in the age of and by the way this book was. This book was a complete demolition of Ron Snyder's Christian socialism position like there was no response to it was a death blow but it continues as essentially a zombie because there's no responses to the biblical wisdom and biblical law against socialism there are no responses and so you essentially just have to ignore the responses in order to keep going which is essentially what they do.
You know my book brings five verses to bear on the social justice controversy and they're they're not defeatable you know what I mean like you can't be for reparations but also for the words of God and the law of God.
So what they do is they just ignore it and they just keep the rather keep believing what they want to believe.
That that's how it works and that's probably one of the best most thorough explanations of a free market economics from the Old Testament law in scripture that I've ever ever heard and it's very easy to read.
It's not. Check it out yeah.
I'll check it out. I think it's good. Let me let me ask you this last question. Do you then sever fellowship with people you disagree with on these issues. Not.
Necessarily okay but I do think that I do think there should probably trying to.
Catch him in a fundamentalist mindset he's trying to catch him to be a fundy like if they don't agree with me on everything I'm gonna I'm gonna sever fellowship. Well not necessarily. That's the only answer that makes sense for Marcus.
Sure not necessarily. People are on different you know parts of their they're on different parts of the spectrum you know. And some people more aggressive and some people are you know just naive. There's a lot of different flavors of this kind of stuff and so the reasonable answer is not necessarily it.
Just depends. Voting liberal I think. I think there should be church. I do yeah.
I've said you think I should have been disciplined for voting for Andrea. Yes.
Yes I absolutely do absolutely do and and and this is the thing like most people like Ruslan he's. You could see his little little grin here when he hears church discipline he means he thinks excommunication right.
And that's not what what church discipline is. At least not right away. It's not just excommunication sever fellowship. No Russell. And I think you should be spoken to by your elders dude like you can't support this stuff.
This is this is wrong. And you believe this to Ruslan. Because here's the reality. This is the thing that I always try to try to try to get bring home right. You believe this to Russell. And people should be church discipline for their political affiliations.
Because if there was a neo-nazi in your church and he voted for David Duke or whatever the guy's name was that was running KKK guy. Whatever. Yeah you should be church discipline for that. Like you should.
Someone should pull you aside and say hey you can't support this dude. This guy's a crazy man. This guy's this guy's advocating sin in his political policies. You can't support that. And if he didn't stop you would bring a bring a friend.
You bring your elders. And then eventually if he just continued to be a neo-nazi you kick him out. You believe this to Ruslan for some reason. You don't seem to really care so much about the lives of innocent babies.
You don't seem to really care so much about God's law against stealing. You don't seem to really care about this stuff. And I'm I'm being consistent here. Yeah I'd kick out a neo-nazi but I'd also kick out a socialist if they were for you to repent.
And you should do that. Everything is on the table when it comes to church discipline. Because church discipline starts with a private rebuke. And then if you don't stop he goes it goes beyond so. So yes Ruslan I don't see what's so funny about that.
Yeah people should be church discipline. And for their political affiliations. Because God cares about your political beliefs and affiliations right. That's part of God's law. Like what you believe about the lives of babies.
And whether or not that people should it should be illegal to murder a baby. Like I think it's pretty obvious that God cares about that. I mean it's in the scripture. So why is that.
Funny of course. I think you should have been talked to by your pastor. Yeah okay.
What do you mean we did talk by the way my pastor is not a Republican but what do you mean by discipline. Like what is that what is that. Well I think I mean I.
Think if you're continuing to perpetuate the idea of a platform that supports homosexuality and it supports gay rights and then it supports abortion on demand.
You know all these sort of things there's a. But also the socialism itself. Like like the socialism itself is not immune from the law of God. Right. Like this is the thing it's very easy because oftentimes sin comes with other sins.
So it's like yeah they they want to kill babies they want to they want to refuse God's law when it comes to sexuality and they also want to steal. So it obviously it often goes together. I mean almost every socialist is pro homosexuality and pro killing babies.
That's it's a pretty much a package deal. But even in a hypothetical where it wasn't a package deal like let's say Tulsi I think Tulsi might come out like this eventually to be against abortion. She's pro abortion now.
I think Tulsi Gabbard might come out like this where she's like socialist but you know she's not for killing babies and not for homosexuality. Like even if in that hypothetical that's unusual you still can't do it because there's laws of God against the very propositions of Andrew Yang economically.
And so yeah you should be church disciplined for that. And you really have no argument if you agree with me that neo-nazis should also be church disciplined for their politics. I think you do agree with me Ruslan.
So what's the big deal here. I mean let's be.
Consistent between your politics and your and your view of scripture. I think to such a degree feminism all these sort of things like it's hard for me at some point like it might not be the discipline might not be because you voted but there's probably some fruit underlying your life that a good pastor.
Should examine the vote. The voting is the voting is part of it though. I think that we have to we have to understand that a vote is throwing your support behind something. And the thing is like there might be there you can make some arguments were not throwing my support against you know for homosexuality or killing babies.
I just like the economics but then again like the economics are bad to like that's the point. Like with the Republicans I'm not saying you have to be a Republican. I'm I'm not a Republican anymore. In fact I need to.
I am technically Republican because I'm registered as one. But I need to get rid of that. I'm not a Republican at least in my heart. But at least for Republicans though there's some redeeming qualities like they don't get a lot of things right.
But they get some things right and there's some redeeming qualities there right. But with the Democrats they don't have any redeeming qualities like their redeeming qualities are accidental like they're they're they're.
They're pro like marijuana legalization. I'm pro that too. I don't think that the Bible you know allows us to ban a plant one that way. But but the thing is like like that's an accidental thing. They get right and it's very minor.
Like I don't think that marijuana legalization counterbalances killing babies and the homosexuality thing and the stealing economics and all that stuff like like there's no redeeming qualities for the Democratic Party right.
So there's no argument there. There's none. There's no argument. So it's just like yeah we've talked about this.
Many times. What's going on in your life. What if there isn't what it would have.
Somebody and I'm and I'm not a Democrat by the way I'm thinking you think. But what if somebody stable marriage serving in church loves Jesus pillar in the community. One woman man not addicted to pornography doesn't drink or if they do it's extreme moderation and and is generous through and through you think.
That person needs to be dealt with absolutely. And this is why I don't even go down the road of the underlying fruit thing. No the vote itself. Throwing your support behind evil. You can't disconnect that from your life.
Why is this. Why is this hard to understand. You can't disconnect your vote and what you support from the rest of your life. It's all part of your life. Right. It's like when people try to say well this is just online talk.
No that's part of your life. Right. Part of your life is how you talk online. Like we understand that. So. No. No that would be very unusual. That they'd be perfect in every way except for their vote.
That would be very unusual. Ruslan. I don't think that. That's very common. But if that was the case yeah that's still valid. You should still be rebuked for throwing your support behind an evil political party.
What's weird about that. Imagine if I can just turn this around on you again Ruslan. Imagine if there was a neo-nazi who was perfect in all those ways. He wasn't addicted to porn. He didn't drink. He was nice to people and stuff like even nice to black people.
But he just had this small thing where he supported the neo-nazi party. You know what I mean like that would be unusual. It's kind of a weird example. But yeah he still that's part of his life. Why is the vote exempted from that.
I mean like it's.
Just like you know like I like I don't know like their salvation like I'm not saying that if you if you're a Democrat you're not saved. I'm just saying that there probably needs to be some serious conversations about.
Yeah definitely. Because your worldview is somehow disconnected from Scripture. That's right I think like or or or the way you you live in church versus the way you live in the world there's there's a difference and so that would be my thought.
I think we at least need to have the conversation more that your politics.
And your theology are not. Ruslan's acting like he's like so confused. But. But why are you so confused Ruslan. Because people do this all the time. They're like I can't believe you would say that. But I'm like obviously I would say that.
And you agree with me. You agree with me. About neo-nazis. About all that stuff like like what's the problem here. Why is this like so fascinating to you. I mean I I thought it was obvious that if we had a neo-nazi or someone who voted for a KKK member or something I thought it'd be pretty obvious that you know you'd probably want to talk to them about that as if it was a sin.
Because it is and then if they don't repent that you go to through the steps of church. Why is that a mystery. I honestly like if someone can give me a good argument for why this is such a mystery besides that you know they just brainwashed it to think that like yeah I mean socialists and communists are bad they're evil.
So we should not support them. And if we do then there's a problem there that needs to be addressed according to the steps of church discipline. I'm I don't know why that's so mysterious. It seems pretty basic to me.
There's not a neutrality.
There. Okay. So like like like there's not a new you know like I'm pretty suppositional right. So there is no neutrality. There's not a there's not a. Your politics is influenced by something and if your politics is saying it's okay to support the pro-homosexual pro all this sort of stuff there's there's.
Probably I would say probably just at the very bare minimum. You're not you're not taking scripture as appropriate authority at the bare minimum. Yeah. So.
That would be my thought. So that's interesting. Yeah I don't I don't. I would probably disagree on the church discipline but why. I don't understand.
Why. I mean I'm sure you do disagree but you have a lot of unbiblical opinions. But biblically why. That's another thing. Like like oftentimes when people disagree with that and you say oh you should church discipline Democrats.
And they they get they have this reaction like how could you. And it's like okay. So where is that coming from though. Is that coming from inside you. You think that would be too mean or is that coming from the culture that thinks it's legitimate to be a Democrat.
Or is that coming from the scripture. Like like where in the scripture do you get that. You know I mean I remember those two guys a defendant confirmed podcast they they tried to make some arguments about it but they were very weird like why would you exempt this sin from you know from discipline from discipleship.
It's really what you're saying. Because if this is in is exempt from discipleship then discipleship is not in all-encompassing doesn't doesn't address all of the man. If politics are not part of that then then then we have an incomplete discipleship program.
Of course politics are part of that. And part of discipleship is discipline. Right. I mean I thought this is bait. Seriously I'm not. I'm not trying to play dumb here. I thought this was pretty basic.
And the pushback that you get it's I don't think.
It's coming from the Bible. I. I just dude in my opinion I have a lot of.
Friends that are Christian Democrats see this is the thing this is where it's coming from. He's got friends. He doesn't want to excommunicate them. Tough luck. Tough luck. I don't want those kind of friends in my life where like they see a sin in my life.
And they won't rebuke me for it. We'll just let me continue in it. That's not loving man. That's not. That's not. That's not a friend. That's my. That might be a cohort but it's not a friend. I often talk about this.
You know I had some people in my life that I considered friends when I was an unbeliever when I lived in New York City. And we hung out all the time and we were we were very cordial to each other. We had a great time.
At least I thought I was having a good time at the time. And we would have called each other friends. Right. And these people would encourage me in my drinking and my drug use and in my sexual perversions and all kinds of stuff.
And you know I would have considered them friends. But but they were not friends. They were not friends like we don't define what a friend is according to the world. Like being friendly with me doesn't mean you're my friend.
Because they were encouraging me to destroy myself. They were encouraging me to destroy myself and to rebel against God and all these things. That's not a friend. A friend is someone who will wound you if they need to to stop you in your tracks.
So Ruslan has a lot of Democrat friends that he doesn't want to confront about their sin. That's a problem. It doesn't seem like Ruslan's a very good friend. Anyway I thought we had finished this but that was probably too aggressive.
We will definitely finish it next time. I hope you found this video helpful. God bless.