Review an anti-Calvinist video

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Chris huff the other half of theology.

What's up, buddy? How you doing, man? You know just living the dream. I knew you were gonna say that.

It it. Working out in the hundred degree weather. Delivering packages driving a truck that has absolutely no air conditioning. Oh, man. Okay. It's uh, It's what every little boy grows up to want to do.

Right, man, right. Oh, bro, it's it's it's been brutal with this heat man. Yeah, we're getting a nice. I mean where you are. I know you're getting it too, man. Nice little nice little round of showers.

So yeah, yeah little rain. Yeah, but.

Okay, so let's let's do this in the news real quick. Okay. All right, so uh something's. It's it's been in the news, but it hasn't really been in the news. And it's the investigation. Of the mysterious cocaine that was found in the nest wing of the white house.

The investigation Has ended. Okay, they ended it. And guess who the culprit was? Who? They don't know. They don't know. Yeah, they said they actually don't know who brought it in. Oh, I know. I know.

Hunter biden. Yeah, we all know.

We all know come on now. But but this should be concerning very concerning for a couple of reasons. So you have the most secure the most protected house in america. Right cameras all over the place. You can go in there and you can get a picture of 35 different angles of your face.

All right, and not one of them was able to capture the person that brought this in. Yeah, yeah, we call that a cover-up. Yeah, yeah. Right. It's like so so you're just having random people walk in to the west wing.

Unmonitored just leaving illegal drugs. Is that where we're at now?

Not to mention there's video evidence of him on a balcony and you can very clearly see he put something on right here on his hand. In the in the in the. If you're ever grilling something and you want to know if it's done by the way.

You touch the meat if it feels kind of like that's probably done right there in that spot. Yeah, he totally just turned away and.

It's like oh, yeah, okay, and then look. Not only that you also see the doctor jill biden and.

On her face is like Get this guy out of here. Like I cannot believe you just did that right here right now. Yeah, but I mean.

But what about fingerprints, right? There's no fingerprints on whoever left this right now, it's just Riddle me this. Okay, if this was any other investigation of any other person, do you think it would stop after two weeks?

I mean, you just have to ask the question you go. Okay, if this were donald trump jr. Or or you know previous administration's children. And this were the case. Absolutely not. Look at what they've done with the whole january 6th thing.

And I mean it is all just a bunch of hogwash.

That's right. It really is. Yeah.

Yeah, and this should make you mad because the fbi They they have plenty of time to arrest and investigate parents who attend pta meetings. Who are fighting for their children? But yet they give up this investigation after two weeks.

Well, I mean come on the the fbi who uh, and the federal government who will will send undercover agents. Uh to start protests to start issues. You know, come on, it's it's.

Right and now the truth is like like you said the truth is we know Who this belongs to. Okay, right? They know who it belongs to we know who it belongs. It's no secret, but we clearly see The sin of partiality here.

There is no equal justice. No, nope. Nope.

Well, and I was just uh, let me see if I can find this passage of scripture. Um, that is a good reminder for us. I was I was looking at there it is second chronicles 1907 let me pull it up real quick because this is this is a good one.

This is a good reminder of for all of us. Um, nope, I did that earlier too. I wrote second churn instead of second chron. So that doesn't work but second chronicles 1907 check this out. And this is of course i'm reading from the lsb.

So you'll you'll notice you'll notice that right away, uh verse 7 out of second chronicles 19 says so now then let the dread of yahweh Be upon you. Be careful what you do because with yahweh our god, there is no unrighteousness or partiality or the taking of a bribe.

Um, and that's a fantastic reminder that that is who he is. So, you know hunter biden and the biden's and the federal government can get away with that all they want on this side of eternity but uh. It just because we see injustice here temporarily temporarily.

And temporarily doesn't mean that there won't be justice eternally. So.

Yeah, yeah, that's right. That that is one thing that we do. Uh, we have to remember. Yeah that the god we serve is a just god. Amen. So that while People may get away with certain sins. They may get away with crimes.

This side of eternity. Yep. That doesn't mean that they'll get away with it on the other side. They will have to answer to god for those things. That's it. That's it. That's it.

So, yeah, man. Yeah. Well speaking of in the news, I know we talked about um talking about this offline, but I just wanted to remind everybody uh that the essential church movie Uh the full length feature documentary, uh by grace, uh done by grace community church grace productions um that uh that hits theaters nationwide july 28th.

Um, and you can go to essential church movie .com. That's just not the but just essential church movie .com. And you can put in your zip code. It'll tell you which theaters around you are showing it. Um, there's over 170 plus theaters that have added it.

They're trying to get to a thousand. They're trying to get to a thousand. I actually um interviewed, uh, shannon halliday who's the writer and director Of the film. I interviewed him yesterday for matter of theology and we did an ig live.

And um, and he told me that what they're doing lord willing is they're going to be adding theaters every single day up until the 28th. Um, so in order to get to a thousand they need to sell out as quickly as possible for the theaters that are already uh showing the film so um, I just sent you a screenshot because we were talking about it offline, but um.

Um here within you know, 25 miles of where I am. There's now four theaters that are showing Uh this film and amc just picked it up some not all but some regal cinemas have it. Um, and they're they're wanting to just just uh, just absolutely just blow this out now i've seen the film.

Um, I saw it last week. Uh, it is phenomenal. It takes you right back to what you what we all experienced three years ago. Um during the plan-demic not the pandemic the plan-demic um and everything that took place and uh shannon is uh.

You'll have to listen to the episode the matter of theology episode will drop on monday um. That interview with him and he gives a little background as far as his story, but he's a he's a storyteller and they did a phenomenal job with this and uh one of my favorite parts and i'll stop there because I want you guys to listen to the episode and I want you to see the film but They show very clearly in a wonderful way how everything that happened.

To grace community church to grace life church and edmonton james coats erin coats Tim and raquel stephens, um their church. Everything that happened there is similar to what the covenanters went through.

It's similar to what we saw during the great ejection. And they tell some stories in there about some some things that happened throughout church history and they pointed out this key this key fact. That whenever persecution and opposition comes against the church from an offensive standpoint typically.

And mostly it's from government. It's from the state. Uh, and so they do a phenomenal job at telling that story. Uh, it's it clocks in at just over two hours like two hours and six minutes, but it does not feel like that.

Um, it's gonna leave you angry and frustrated. It's gonna leave you. Uh filled with courage and resolve. It's gonna leave you in tears at some moments to be honest. Um,. So yeah, the essential church go check it out now.

Go ahead he says. My church is showing it this sunday at 6 p .m.

Yeah, yeah the um, a lot of churches are I know alex rodriguez. He's uh, the pastor of outpost bible church in mckenry, illinois. They're doing their sunday night I think brandon and heritage tulsa. I think he's doing.

I haven't talked to him about it. Okay, I think he's doing brandon scalf their heritage tulsa and tulsa, oklahoma. I think they're showing at sunday night. So a lot of churches are doing that I know tom buck church in lindale, texas is doing it um a lot of places are um that doing like a pre-screening before the film drops on the 28th and theaters everywhere, so.

Um, but if your church is not showing it, um, find a theater if not, um,. Uh recall the theater call call your local theater and and uh and request that they uh that they carry it. So and um, um, so yeah, it's it's great and but it's something that every believer needs to watch and uh.

Is a reminder for every believer as well to study church history because there's nothing new under the sun, right?

Now jason cave says mot in the house. What's up cave. Matter of theology mot. And he also says. Hello all saints. Sorry i'm late. God bless you ga georgia brothers. That's it man. Talking about georgia in the house.

That's it. Now let's bring in. We have a guest backstage. Come on the stream. What's going on?

Hey. How are you? Good, man. How are you? Good eric.

Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. I've uh through i've seen you chris. This is my first, uh Encounter, but i've only been able to catch the show several times. Gotcha.

Yeah, I gotcha our uh. Are you wanting to do you have a question or are you wanting to join in on our anti-calvinism video? Well.

That's that's the video I sent to andrew. Oh Yeah, okay. I got it. The only reason i'm tucked into the back office here I guess I just signed on at the duck man and here I show up and you're talking to me.

So yeah, but I my buddy, uh Who lives out in oregon? Sent that to me when we started talking back and forth about this issue and I watched that I was just Amazed and i'm like wow. Yeah I told you know and here I had watched you guys on this show three times maybe before I watched that video and I It was.

So different I'll just look at that without yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So when uh when andrew sent me that this video. Um, I watched the first five minutes and I said we can do three shows on the first five minutes alone.

I got four minutes and 23 seconds in before I had to turn it off.

Yeah, there's so much to go over because there's so much of a misrepresentation. That's taking place and so, uh, so if you like you you're more than welcome to stay, uh,. Stay in with us on our critique if you want to add anything.

Or if you want you can hang out in the back. It doesn't matter to us.

Yeah, I I don't know I I'm, not sure i'm going to have a ton to add. I watched it A couple months ago it seems so it's not fresh in my head, but the whole feel of it and everything. You know, I I recently I was at a calvary chapel For about five to seven years and so I I just came to a a church out here in medina it's called medina bible church and it's uh Very hermeneutically sound.

In fact, I didn't even know much about hermeneutics. Our pastor wasn't Just pushing herman. Yeah, it was it was so it's been a an interesting learning curve because now i'm Growing in doctrine more and and sound theology, right?

So it's been eye-opening uh, and so I think I had gained enough ground over the past couple of years that when I Saw that and listened to it. That's. So i'm i'm not sure I can speak heavily into where you guys are going to be able to take that.

So if you want to put me in the back, that's fine, and I can just listen along. Yeah.

Yeah, so so i'll just i'll put you in the back and then if you have a A comment or you want to come in and say something just put it in the private chat and we'll bring you in to uh.

Yeah to speak. Appreciate the review too. This is great. That's why I I ran upstairs and I was like not gonna miss this. Although i'm gonna have to miss next week because I will be working. I think if you take three shows.

I'll hopefully be able to next week. Well good thing because next week we're not gonna we're not going to be covering this Uh video. But we are going to have to break this this video up into several shows.

But next week is actually going to be uh with jim osmond. So jim osmond is going to be here and they're going to be talking about a another video about prophecy. Uh, so so so you won't miss uh, you won't miss anything next week.

Well, you'll miss jim and it's always great to watch jim in work, but uh. But you won't miss anything as it pertains to this video.

Great, then i'll catch the following week. I'll be on vacation, but i'll i'll have wi-fi and i'll be able to Set an alarm and hope I hear it when it rings. So i'll be able to talk with.

Oh, yeah, great awesome, man, well i'll put you backstage. Okay, man. All right, chris. Are you ready to get into this video?

Uh, sure sure send it.

All right. All right. We're gonna we're gonna do it. I hope everyone's ready. Let's. Uh, yeah, and and like I said, I.

I got I got four minutes and 23 seconds in I was texting drew. I was like, I can't I just I can't we can. We can we can we can stop right here. Um, but uh, all right, man, go for it. All right.

Romans 9, Open Theism, and the Sovereignty of God

Well, so so first just just to set some some context. This is from the podcast the forest and the trees podcast. Okay. Uh, the host of this podcast is jeff kane and you're gonna see and hear from jeff.

Uh, he's got uh, really long hair. A really high pitched voice and a mustache and some thick glasses. I don't know anything about him. So I can't speak to anything regarding What you might think of him and then this guy here on the screen jeremy, uh,.

Uh jernigan, and then their guest is greg boyd. Now there's there's a lot of problems with greg boyd. I know in the past. Dr. James white has covered a lot of uh his stuff so, uh. So yeah, there's there's issues with greg boyd and and you're gonna see it in this video it's I I had a headache when I first watched it.

And I and I thanked andrew for sending me that video and putting me in a headache. But really I should be thanking eric for sending it to uh, sending it to andrew. Thanks a lot, buddy.

But let's get into this. Send it into romans chapter nine, which is the doozy of a chapter and we're going to explore Whether paul and god are calvinists now. Yes, they are by the way.

I was just about to say stop. Full stop, um, so they're going they're going to be going over romans chapter nine. The problem is I don't know that we're going to make it far enough into the video where they actually get into the text.

I don't think we'll try. We'll try. All right. All right.

Go ahead, okay. If you're not familiar with calvinism, this is also referred to as reformed theology. This is the belief that things are predetermined by god Some would say god decides who is saved who is not saved Others would say that god causes everything and calvinism really emphasizes the sovereignty of god and the authority of the of the bible.

Stop that. Yes.

I'm okay. I'm not trying to be a jerk. I'm not trying to be facetious. I'm not trying to to patronize this brother. I don't know this guy. I want to be respectful um. You know. But everything he just stated is biblical right.

God is sovereign overall. God has predestined and predetermined any and all things and everything that will ever happen to think otherwise.

Is you don't know god? Right period. Jason cave says that should be the end of the video.

I I agree. I I agree. I this is just no everything that that guy just stated in the opening of the podcast is absolutely who god is and how he operates, so.

Right, yeah, so just what you said what he just said is true and it our position the reformed position emphasizes the sovereignty of god and the authority of the bible because the bible is our Foundation for why we believe what we believe, you know, we actually take second.

Timothy. Uh three versus 16 and 17. Seriously. Yeah.

All right, so I actually take psalm 19 7 through 14 very seriously that the law of yahweh is perfect. That's our starting point if it's not start over, right? Yeah.

So so scripture is where we get. A a proper understanding of ourselves and of our nature a proper understanding of god and his holiness. We we get the understanding of what he desires. We get a proper understanding of christ and his works.

Uh we get the the presentation of how sinful rebellious people.

Come to know a holy god. What's the most important question? What is the most important question that anybody made in the image of god must answer? Before they take their last breath here on this side of eternity.

How do I? Oh, well, I was no go ahead I was gonna say what comes to your mind when you think about god. Okay. Yes. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Absolutely right tozer. But then also um, and and I would say that let's let's add this to that as well is what must sinful man Do to be made right with a holy and righteous god.

We all have to Reconcile that philippians tells us that one day every knee will bow. Every tongue will confess that jesus christ is lord and you will either confess that in fear filial fear um on this side of eternity.

Or you will confess that as you are experiencing the unbridled wrath of that holy and righteous god for eternity in hell. That's what the scriptures teach. You can't get around that as much as these guys try to.

Yeah, um, but but you you.

Okay, i'm getting ahead of myself. Look, we believe in the sovereignty of god because number one the bible teaches it and number two if god is sovereign. Overall, right. Or or let's say this way if god is not sovereign Overall, then he is a lesser god and he is not worthy of worship.

Yep. He's not the god of the bible. He's not the creator of the universe.

He is a little g god a false g god and that's who these guys believe in. As you will see very very quickly. Yes, let's go on.

And this is something that I I'm a personally a fan of open theism and greg or jeff my friend who Does the podcast was teasing me and in preparation of this going? I can't wait to get to romans nine and I thought Why don't I bring in my mentor who has shaped my theology on this and we'll just ask him questions.

So we are stoked to welcome my theological mentor to weigh in on this debate. Mr. Greg boyd. Welcome greg. Okay.

Okay, let's Open theism. All right. Thank you. I was gonna say define that for us. Yeah, so this is the idea that god is not sovereign that he does not know the future. The future is Open right rather than determined.

So god does not know the future. He is waiting to see what happens and then he responds or really he reacts To what happens right? So he's not in. Yeah, yeah God is learning. He's taking in knowledge and then he has to respond To the to what he has just learned.

And so you what you'll actually see is later in this video greg boyd here Says that romans 9 teaches open theism. Oh Right, we call that hermeneutical gymnastics. I'm glad you said that because later I have a note about that.

Nice. Well, well here's here's something else too. Uh for for those listening to the show now and then and then obviously for anybody listening to the podcast later um, you will often hear those who profess faith in the lord jesus christ those who maybe Believe in some of the doctrines of grace and and.

And you'll hear people describe predestination. Uh, and the foreknowledge of god in this way. They'll say this well, well this is the way predestination works. They'll say that that god looks down through the tunnel of time.

And sees he knows who's gonna choose him and so he saves them and chooses them in return. That's open theism. That's just another facet of it. And that is not what the scriptures teach at all. Just turn to ephesians one.

Yeah, if that's if that's your view. Okay, if you say god looks down the corridor of time and then based on your decision he then predestines you so God then took in knowledge. So he learned something so he's not omniscient, right?

He's not all knowing. But if he looked down the corridor of time and saw that you wouldn't choose him and then created you anyway. Knowing you were going to go to hell and there was nothing he could do about it.

Now. He's not all powerful. So so with open theism you've destroyed god's omniscience and you've destroyed god's omnipotence. So he is no longer god. Yeah. Yeah. Yep.

It's but and before before you keep going and brothers and sisters. This is very very, uh, this is a textbook example of what it means to Approach the scriptures with a framework instead of gathering your framework from the scriptures as you as you now listen to.

Because greg is about to get into it and say a bunch of As as chris honholtz would say gobbledygook. Um, you're about to hear it and you're about to hear How dangerous it can be? To not. To to not keep the windshield wipers on when it comes to your mind when you approach the scriptures not Approaching the scriptures with a preconceived framework and then you go to the bible to try to prove it.

But to look at what scripture teaches and go. That's my doctrine period period. Um, so just keep that in mind as we as we proceed. Yeah, it's good to be here. Thanks for having me on jeremy.

So he uh, if you're only listening to this You're gonna have to pull up the video at some point because greg is rocking some red glasses. Oh, yeah. We were just commenting how good he looks. Look, you know, I still haven't found what i'm waiting for.

Wow so much singing today. Everyone's bringing the music. Yeah, so what's your song jeremy. So much music?

Well, if you don't know greg he is a an incredible Theologian, uh, he's also the pastor. He's really not.

Well, he is. No, no, he is. He's not a theologian for the devil. For the devil, yeah, okay. Yeah. Okay I was gonna say he's not an incredible theologian. A terrible deal is.

Incredible theologian when it comes to.

As god really said so right? Yeah. Yeah. The hiss of the serpent as you like. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yeah.

Master of woodland hills church, which he helped to co-found many years ago. He is the author or co-author Of 22 books and counting. That's the last count I have. He's been married to an amazing woman named shelly for more than 30 years.

She is 30 we're going on 45 dude. Are you? Oh, yeah 44. You're older than I thought. We're 45. Yeah, we're old uh, just uh an incredible guy and uh, this is just fun because roman's nine is hard and Jeff and I are just gonna let it rip and Greg has helped me so many times.

So we feel like this is going to be a fun. If you can read roman's nine and not be a calvinist, we're gonna we're gonna see if it's possible today. The only way you can do that.

Is by hermeneutical gymnastics. Yep. Finding a way around what the text actually says in order to make it say something that it doesn't mean correct. That's the only way you can do that. So when he says roman's night is is is hard.

It's not hard if you take it at its plain reading. Yeah. It's actually very clear. It's very clear.

Crystal clear. Um, and I know they say that later. I wish paul would have. I'm kind of giving it away, but I don't know if we're gonna get there. But you know, I wish paul would have been more clear. Yeah, he was.

And oh by the way. If you have a new american standard or an lsb you can clearly see how many times paul quotes the old testament. And wanting to be as crystal clear as possible when it comes to um god choosing vessels of wrath versus vessels of destruction.

That's right. Yeah. Kathy here says. They are denying the text. Amen. Kathy absolutely.

What do you think is it possible. Only if god's predestined it to be possible. Otherwise, we're sunk. Ha ha ha we hear that.

Before. It's an old joke that just gets even older.

Well fun fact too. I felt like this is worth throwing in there. Uh, I think a lot of people who know you don't know this little tidbit. You actually were a calvinist at one point in your life. Uh, that's.

Okay. Now we we hear this a lot. We hear this. The criticism from the former calvinist. Okay. It's I know I know it has been covered on this show before because I know andrew and I have talked about it.

But those who claim to have been calvinist at one time and are no longer calvinist. Never truly were to begin with. Nope. And we can tell this. Because they always just seem to misrepresent the position.

Yep so when everyone says Whenever anyone says i'm a former calvinist. Red flags should go up. Yeah. Anything to add or you want me to keep going? No, keep going.

That's true for a couple years. Uh while while in seminary, uh, i've always told people that I totally get how someone exegetically can be a calvinist. Yeah.

Duh. So keep going keep going hold on let me because think about that statement. I understand how someone can exegetically be a calvinist. I want to say argument over How else are how else are we going to gain our theology if not exegetically.

Oh bro, you're wrong for that one. Right, okay, so first. Real quick. Let's go over some of these particulars. Okay. Exegesis Is simply drawing out from the text, right? It's coming from the text. So the text provides Information and then we are pulling out that information from the text.

Now the opposite of that is eisegesis. Reading into the text something that's not there. So for example Open theism that god is not sovereign and he does not know the future. Okay, you have to impose that on the text because it's not there correct, right?

So so he mentions romans nine, right? That's the whole thing about this show, right? They're going over romans nine. Well, we can just. We don't have to stay in romans nine. If we just back up one chapter to roman eight.

We destroy the idea Of open theism, right? Just yes think about the golden chain of redemption. Yep. For those whom god foreknew he also predestined. I mean It seems like god knows the future and especially those who would be saved.

That's right. That's right. I'm just.

Things out here. Absolutely. Well as scripture tells us right for ordained that means he has set everything in motion. Nothing happens apart from his sovereign will and control and permission. Nothing apart from that.

And for someone to say I exegetically see why you can be a calvinist why you can believe that that there are are those that god has created and as vessels of wrath and those to whom he's created as As vessels of righteousness because of the finished to be completed and ongoing work of the lord.

Jesus christ for the forgiveness of sins. If you if you can see that exegetically argument is over. At this point we're just talking your opinions, right? It's that's all it is. It's greg boyd's opinions chapter one verse two.

That's all it is. You can't what to say. Something like that is so asinine and completely undercuts any and everything else you're gonna say in opposition to to romans chapter nine confirming. Along with like you said romans eight ephesians one ephesians two the whole.

The whole uh gospel of john the whole bible period right period go back to the fall. What did what did god promise?

The the seed of the woman The head of the serpent the gospel the proto evangelium. Thank you.

Thank you. It's at this at this point at this. This is what you're hearing today. I was listening to. I was listening to martin lloyd jones, um in a sermon entitled the anger of the lord where he was exegeting as martin lloyd jones does.

Isaiah five is the most important text in all of scripture, right?

Where he talks about the wrath of god and and this is. That's right. Isaiah 5 25 and and listen listen to this isaiah 5 25 says on this account. The anger of yahweh has burned against his people. And he has stretched out his hand against them and struck them down and the mountains trembled and their corpses lay Like refuse in the middle of the streets for all this his anger is not turned back, but his hand is still stretched out.

And lloyd jones said he very clearly said that if you don't understand The wrath of god the wrath of god, then you don't understand the cross. Right, you can't if you don't understand the doctrine of the wrath of god.

And why that's important and you don't operate practically and pragmatically in your life. Everything you think everything you say and everything you do if you don't operate In a like I already said at once the filial fear of god.

Because of the wrath that has been absorbed by christ in your place on the cross. You don't understand the atonement. You are not a believer, right? Period. You can't get the atonement wrong. You can't profess faith in christ.

And say you believe in god and believe what the scriptures teach. Oh, by the way, greg boyd, like you said to me earlier that he thinks the bible has errors obviously. He wrote a book. You can't do that and possess.

Faith in christ, right? Yeah, you can't. Yeah in in open theism. You have no reason to believe the promises of god that he has no.

He's not omniscient. He's not omnipotent and he's not powerful enough to carry it. No, no. Yeah. Nope. So.

So i've got i've got some some verses here that just Talk about god's sovereignty or his all-knowingness. Okay, so psalm 139 verse 4 Even before there is a word on my tongue behold. Oh lord, you know it all isaiah 46 10 declaring the end from the beginning and from ancient times things which have not been done saying My purpose will be established and I will accomplish all my good pleasure.

Job 14 5 since his days are determined and the numbers of of his uh his month Is with you and his limits you have set so that he cannot pass. Seems like god knows When my days are are are up. Yep. Uh, what else do we have ephesians 2 verse 10?

For we are his workmanship created in christ jesus for good works which god prepared beforehand And So that we would walk in them. John 16 13. I really love this one.

I know man me too john 16 13.

But when he the spirit of truth comes he will guide you into all truth. For he will not speak on his own initiative. But whatever he hears he will speak and he will disclose to you. What is to come question.

How does the spirit know what is to come if god does not know the future, right? Right.

Here's here's one. Isaiah 66 starting in verse one thus says yahweh heaven is my throne and the earth Is the footstool of my feet. Where then is a house you could build for me? And where is a place that I may rest for.

My hand made all these things thus all these things came into being declares Yahweh. But to this one I will look to him who is humble and contrite of spirit and who trembles at my word.