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Well, all right, somebody took the time to respond to one of my videos with a video of his own and I Absolutely appreciate that and that interaction. I hope that this will lead to maybe some live interaction where we can talk ask questions.

Here the responses things like that. That would be awesome. And I'd be willing to do that on this guy Kofi Meng's Channel, but anyway, I have not listened to this yet. I told him that I would and I figured why not do another live response.

So we'll see if this is good or if it's boring. I won't upload it if it's boring but let's jump right in now this is the guy that on the On John on John on the thread that kind of accused John MacArthur of kinism and being a Klansman.

This is the guy. I think it was Koff. I Forget what it was. But anyway, this is one of the guys that was part of that threat. So here we go. John MacArthur this week posted a interesting article about social justice and And Nate pickowitz here who's a who's an online friend of mine.

He said look John MacArthur marched for civil rights in the 60s and now he's speaking about social justice and Phil Johnson corrected him. He said John MacArthur wasn't marching with the demonstrate. He was preaching the gospel and practicing real brotherhood in contrast to the angry civil rights activism of those days.

And he's advocating the same approach. And so Phil Johnson in a very kind of summarized way said look he wasn't actually marching or fast-forward. When he starts talking cuz y 'all already saw my video here it is.

All right, go for me.

I hope I'm pronouncing that right if I'm wrong. John MacArthur issued a Entry into his blog series he calls social injustice and the gospel. So in that article I like how it's got the MacArthur books.

This is a fan I like it. He's afraid that the social justice movement is very. It's one of the most dangerous or actually is the most dangerous Opponent of the gospel today, basically, I'm paraphrasing that aspect that part.

But I would I would maybe maybe differ from John MacArthur in one slight way. I actually agree with him. It is a very dangerous and possibly one of the most dangerous recent Oppositions to the gospel.

But I don't say that people who are in the social justice movement are necessarily preaching in different gospels. Some of them are but not all of them. And so I would want to make a distinction there.

I wouldn't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater kind of thing, but I I do agree that this is very dangerous. It's very subtle and lots of people are buying into it.

A little further ahead or previously in that post he talks about how. He shares the story that he does. Often when I hear him talk about race how he was involved in In civil rights movement. Yeah, and I think so.

I saw a lot of people criticizing him for that and and I think what you got to understand is that the reason that he does that is. Because lots of people from the social justice perspective and not just Christians but Christians as well Basically want to say that white people are unqualified to talk about this thing in many ways.

And it's the same thing that I do when I introduce myself as a Puerto Rican or a Latino. I don't do that because I really consider that an important part of my identity. I do it because you guys do. You guys need the street cred, I guess so a lot of people will make the mistake.

In fact, somebody did it yesterday and they call me white. They say I'm a white supremacist or they say I've got white privilege or whatever it is. And I always say well Look you guys are race and skin color is very important to you.

So let me tell you about my skin color. It's not me I don't care. I'd never identify as a POC in any other context except this one because y 'all care about it. And I think that's what John McArthur's doing as well.

It's like when somebody says I've got a black friend. They only do that because they're constantly being called racist. And so they want to just Meet that up front and say hey, yeah guys. I'm not racist.

Anyway, he usually talks about how He went around preaching with other black preachers in in the south when he names is John Perkins and he References Charles Evers the late great. I appreciate your Evers.

I appreciate you getting that right.

He preaches with them not at them not to them like the thread that you commented on said. So anyway.

Brother and how you know, he worked with him and how they traveled around preaching in the south to black segregated high schools. And then he goes on and talks about how he had a taste of how we are usually discriminated against, right?

In the story he tells he says that a Racist sheriff that comes right out of the heat of the heat of a night movie a TV show I remember that my aunt and my mom used to watch all the time. And how he Arrested him and the other pastors he was with took his money and Threw them in jail Charged him with disturbing the peace.

And he talks about how He was nearby when dr. King was killed At the Lorraine Motel in Memphis and how he was he stood there Where his you know where he died or when you know where he was shot and he saw where?

Where James Earl Ray pulled the trigger and you know, and it's like stuff like that. So he go he expounds on all this stuff as if to give himself some sort of clout.

Yeah, it is that because of that he wants to get some street cred because the social justice movement is obsessed with that kind of thing. They're obsessed with calling white people racist. So I don't blame them.

I don't blame when white people say Oh, I've got a black friend or I've got a Latino friend. I don't blame them. I understand why they do it because they're sick and tired of being called bigots. They're sick and tired of it.

And so they just want to get that up front. I'm not a bigot. The same reason why I introduced myself as a Latino because I know that Social justice advocates are obsessed with skin color and ethnicity.

I don't care. I like being Puerto Rican. It's great. I love the food. I love my family. I love the culture. I love the music. I love everything about being Puerto Rican. It's great, but it's not a major part of my identity.

I don't care. I don't introduce myself as a Puerto Rican. I don't obsess over Puerto Rican stuff. I just don't you know, I'm a follower of Christ. That's my identity. That's the only identity that I actually care about.

I'm credence some cred. That's right how he's in the trenches, right? And I agree. He's an authority, you know, I've been there. I was Locked arms with these these men. We preach the gospel everywhere, you know in the south in the midst of the civil rights movement.

Fine.

Respect. Is there respect though because that thread that you were on called the McKinnis than a Klansman. And it might have been a bad joke, I mean it wasn't very funny if it was a joke. I mean if it's a joke that is what it is, but it was a stupid joke.

I make jokes too, you know, but I hopefully hopefully mine are better.

But in the midst of this though, you have the Anti social social justice crowd who celebrated this they were so excited that John MacArthur came saved the day. So then this guy that works for John MacArthur his name is Phil Johnson I believe has said something really stupid and We can be grown-ups and admit that what you said was stupid.

Phil if you're watching this a guy named Nate or Nick like I said, I can't remember he had made a comment talking about how John MacArthur marched in the 60s and then Phil and all of his Excitement caught up in the moment was like a portent distinction.

He didn't march. He went around and practiced real brotherhood preaching the gospel in contrast to the angry civil rights demonstrations or whatever of the day.

Yeah, so this is interesting because I think probably I would differ with Phil on this one as well. I I don't think marching and protesting is necessarily on unrighteously anger. Angry. Angry rather. There were.

I mean you'd have to agree Kofi, Meng that some people had unrighteous anger in the civil rights rights movement. I think that that's very clear. You could pull the quotes you could do whatever we want to do.

But not all of them. And and and and honestly, there's a lot of righteous anger in that movement as well. There's nothing wrong with that. And I don't think that Phil would disagree with that as well.

I think he would have a distinction with me. Where's the appropriateness of of Marching and petitioning the government for things I don't really know because I'm not sure what his whole opinion is. The point is that was a very summarized statement.

And so to draw all kinds of just ideas from that about his racism his bigotry this and that I think it's pretty silly but. You know you do you I guess.

What? Okay, and so then you know naturally people got upset. Every time I've heard personally heard John MacArthur talk about race. How he talks about the Black Lives Matter movement. How he talks about?

This whole thing, you know social justice, he always leads with this story about how he Marched and did and I marched but how he was preaching and with all these black pastors. Okay, he always leads with that and as he leaves with that story we are under the assumption that he marched and he Participated in the sit-ins and all he's up in the protests, you know.

And he and how he was beat and things like that. Like that's the assumption that he gives and what Phil does, you know, basically what Donald Trump did to his son. He threw MacArthur in the bus talking about well, no, he didn't march.

He just preached. All right, that's an interesting point.

Actually Kofi, man, I I don't. I'm not aware of how MacArthur tells this story. I don't follow MacArthur very religiously. You obviously do because you have the books and you have. I'm sure you've listened to him more than I have to be perfectly honest with you.

But The article that he wrote which is what was being criticized did not in any way give that impression to me. I didn't think that he was saying he got beaten or hosed down or things like that or all the horrible things that would happen.

All I thought was that he got arrested once which I mean, I'm pretty sure you're not disputing that so if Based on this article alone if somebody read this and got the impression that he was, you know doing all this kind of stuff.

That's on them because he didn't say that but then again I admit I have not listened to him tell the story. So maybe he has misrepresented the story. I don't know. But you have to show examples of that because John MacArthur as far as I'm concerned still has the benefit of the doubt is for me and so Whereas I'm not a sycophant either.

I I disagree with John MacArthur on many things.

Had that not been said people would have gave him a car through the benefit of doubt. That you know, okay. This dude was he was with it. Now he's like, okay. Hold on. So you just went around and preach to people and.

Like that's it. You didn't even get involved in this attitude. All you did was preach. I mean, what's that gonna accomplish?

Brother there is no comparison between preaching and Protesting and this is coming from a guy that is okay with protesting. I think process protesting is just fine. I think it can be effective and I think that many of the protests back then were righteous.

I think they were good. But you cannot compare the two one is the power of God unto salvation. The other is just protesting. Again, I think it could be effective but to say all you did was preach brother.

That's all you need to do. The protesting is it out is it out working of? Conversion and things like that. It's not conversion itself. And I think you know that you seem like a smart guy. But if all you did was preach and pray That would be a heck of a lot.

That would be a heck of a lot and it's what's commanded protesting. It's not commanded in the scripture. It's not disallowed, but it's not commanded. Preaching is and so to put this coat. All you did was preach brother.

That's a pretty ridiculous attitude. I think that if you take a step back and think about it You'll see how ridiculous that attitude is.

Yes, like that's different. That's drastic. It's different and it's much better. It's the game has changed. It's a different story. It's it's a different narrative. All right, we could be honest about that so.

And naturally people responded to that and Lex was upset. Oh joke with Lex was upset. That's for sure. And it's just like how it just goes and then and here's the thing too is like. What Lex was really responding to was how.

In a way it seems so dishonest the way MacArthur had presented.

His so I guess he must be a kinnest, right? I mean he misrepresented the story. So he's obviously a Klansman in disguise.

That's some world-class logic right there. Sorry his stance Within the civil rights movement, but it also emboldened The white supremacist and emboldened people who are anti social justice. So going back to the tweet.

Lex says. And if you could give me some examples of the white supremacist supremacist that it emboldened emboldened. I'd like to see those because I I don't believe you but it's possible that there there are some.

Another problem I'm seeing is Phil clarifying shows. J Mac was there John MacArthur was there to preach to the blacks not staying with them. John MacArthur literally had nothing to do with the civil rights and his crew wants to make sure we know it.

Right, so this is in response to what say that preaching has nothing to do with the civil rights is a profoundly difficult. To say that preaching had nothing to do with civil rights the preaching that John MacArthur was doing is just a profoundly theologically Troublesome idea.

That is very silly. So unless you unless you March unless you do The things that you say then you have nothing to do with it. That's silly. That's very silly at that time when he got arrested with that black man For preaching the gospel and things like that with that black man That had absolutely something to do with civil rights probably more than you've ever had to do with civil rights.

If I'm if I'm gonna make some assumptions here, but that's that's you know. Again, this is a theological problem that he has here. He doesn't think that preaching is enough. And I would say again Protesting is great.

I have no problem with it. But preaching is way more important if there was no protesting and only preaching that would be fine. But if there was protesting and no preaching that would be unacceptable.

The feel assets. When he said important correction here John MacArthur wasn't marching with the demonstrators. He was preaching the gospel and participating I'm sorry in practicing real brotherhood in contrast to the angry civil rights activism of those days.

He's still advocating the same approach, right? Yeah, I think my video too actually doesn't really address that in extents in an extensive way. But I I would I did say in that video, but I'll say it again here I actually would disagree with that side of it.

There certainly were angry people in the in the civil rights movement. I don't think anyone could disagree with that fairly. But not all of it was and I think I think Phil has clarified that but I'm not a hundred percent sure.

So anyway, that was not really part of my video on purpose, but I do disagree with with that idea.

So then that was Lex response. And then Berg says. Or maybe preach at Lex says bingo. And I say I wonder if he preached to his fellow Ken. And Lex says you forgot Ennis right. So let's talk about this.

Yeah, let's. Like I said earlier when I talked about how it seemed sort of dishonest of MacArthur to to leave his his discussions on race with the story about how he preached and It leaves people to assume that.

Okay, so he was with these these brothers. And so he must have protested he must have marched whatever. But then Phil says that no he didn't right. And So Lex are responding to that. And then my response was I wonder if he preached to his fellow Ken which is a legit question because.

And this is why I asked it wasn't because I was trying to make John MacArthur out to be a racist.

No, no, you weren't your bro. Your boy Lex was. So so let's let's just get that thing straight Kofi man. I was not accusing you of doing that. I think that the idea of saying don't wonder if he preached to his Ken is pretty ignorant.

I think it's obvious that he did he does it today and he probably did it back then. I have no evidence that he's changed over the years. So I think that that's ridiculous and it tries to draw a distinction between John MacArthur The man we all know and and John MacArthur this, you know.

Kind of prejudiced potentially person in your head, but then your boy Lex went the extra mile to call him a Klansman and a kinist.

That wasn't even what I was saying, what were you saying my point? He goes out his way to talk about how he preached in segregated black high schools. I Have honestly never heard him say that I had preached to other neighborhoods or I had preached to.

Racist white people. Interesting. So what you're saying is because he's omitted the other stuff that he's done. You're saying he probably. I wonder if he even did It. Wow, what a prejudice. Bro, that is a colossal logical error.

It doesn't make any sense and knowing what you know about the man today who preaches to thousands upon thousands of white people Every day, I don't know why you wouldn't try to draw a distinction like that.

I think that is pretty dishonest.

Who were enforcing these horrible conditions? To accept the gospel. I've never heard that. He may have said it. But I have never heard him say that whenever he talks about I guess he must be a racist.

Akinnis. So then my question was valid. Like did he that does he? Talk about that to them. Did he talk about that to them? Maybe he should talk about that more. It wasn't that I was saying it was a racist thing that these black You know black people are savages and John McCarthy got to come and save the day.

Yeah, but Kofi man, you have to understand you didn't say I will have to admit that and if I Probably did in my video over exaggerate that you didn't say he was racist. You didn't say he was prejudiced.

But that's the implication that you were trying to make and people do this all the time. They'll say something without quite saying it and so that way they could always backtrack and it's a pretty effective strategy.

But but let's just be honest. Let's just be honest about this for a second. That's the insinuation you want people to get in their heads. I wonder if he even preached to racist white people. Did he agree with them and actually that you know.

How I know that's the insinuation that you wanted because Lex actually took that Insinuation and ran with it. And so I'm not the only one who knew what you were saying. Lex also did your boy. Lex also knew what you were saying.

So let's just be honest about that. Yeah, I will have to admit you did not outright say it. But you said it.

Ads done is the very same thing that he had accused us of doing. He had a whole video talking about making it racist and he went out his way to call us Racist or no Slanderers, but he yeah, he was doing that.

So he doesn't like it doesn't work though Kofi man.

It doesn't work because your boy Read your tweet the same way I read it and he ran with it and called him a kinist and a Klansman based on what you said brother. So it doesn't work in reverse. I I think you seem like you think you have a real good point here.

I don't think you do because Lex your boy who you're kind of defending here Actually read you the exact way I read you and so, you know, he knew he knew what you were saying.

It's just that simple. He knew what you were saying. You say he doesn't know me. You never you know, haven't had a conversation with me, but yet he knew what I was getting that I used to. Love John MacArthur, I still.

Interesting, but yeah, so no I I did. I don't know you and I don't know for a fact. That's what you mean. But your boy Lex also thought you meant the same thing that I thought you meant and you didn't correct him.

And so I hope you're about to correct him here in the next what five minutes of this video. You're about to correct what he said, maybe distance yourself from that. If you do I will retract what I said about you.

Love him as a person but I mean in the sense that in my earlier days in the faith early 20s I Had Got on this bench where I wanted to read more. And so I will go to the Christian local Christian bookstore.

And I would read you know find a bunch of books and he was one of the people that was drawn to. I have no Idea why I just saw one of his books and I just read it and I love.

What was in it, yeah, it's a gospel preacher man.

Matter of fact, like, you know, I got props here. I love have a bunch of books that I bought of his over the years. You have more books of his than I do. The Jesus you can't ignore.

He bought. I didn't even know he wrote so many books. I think I have one book of his about about Charismatics and stuff like that according to the Apostles an older one. Not the most recent.

Tell of two sons and then also have 12 angry. No, that's why 12 Ordinary men and 12 extraordinary women. I have those two somewhere put up but needs to say that I Was a big MacArthur fan. I actually wanted to go to his college the master seminary in college in Santa Clarita, California.

I want to go there and you don't want to go there. That that place is committed to white supremacy.

Because I admired I wanted to buy his whole collection on preaching. Because I admired John MacArthur. Things have changed though. Like I don't agree 100 with everything you said or what he taught Me either.

By the way, you'd be crazy to agree 100 with someone else. I agree. You know, but he's Jesus and he's always right. But there's some things I'm like man, that's I don't know but ultimately anyway, um.

So yeah, like it was to that point. But as I got an older and more immature more in my faith. He wasn't the only person that I that I read like my favorite person CS Lewis, but um. It's just like certain certain views we had.

I'm just like, you know, he taught me a lot but We just have to grow apart on this. Yeah, that's very mature of you.

I agree with that because I had the same Idea with a lot of people as well, and I think that that's a good thing. I think God drives us to the scripture through disagreement and that's what I want to do.

I want to talk about the scriptures with you or anybody really. I want to talk about what the Bible says. Let's sit down. Let's pull out of it what we can and see who's more consistent. That is what needs to happen.

And I you just actually messaged me on YouTube a second ago that you're willing to do it.

Thank God for that. I'm looking forward to it. We'll set that up. And I don't hate the man. I don't think ill of him I just the certain stances that he takes. Towards like this race issue does bother me.

And it created a chasm there.

And like I said, I don't I'll tell you mine with him. I think the stance it takes on alcohol is a little weird. I think that the stance that he takes on eschatology is a little bit weird. So those are two of mine.

I can't really think of any others that I would disagree with him too much. But yeah, I've got mine too. It's all good.

Necessarily believe that he is racist. Good. I believe he is out of touch.

But Lex does though, right? You'd have to admit that and you only have about three minutes left. I hope you're about to rebuke what Lex said about him because he read that your tweet exactly the same way I did.

I believe he.

Misunderstands and misses the mark on this and that happens where humans are infallible. I'm sorry. We're fallible. We're fallible I agree with that. Elbow beans. We're going to miss some things. We're not going to be a hundred percent on the nose.

We're not gonna be a hundred percent right on everything. So my appeal this video is long enough, but here's my appeal. I truly believe that at some point. The shouting the name-calling the cultural works is social justice warriors.

All that stuff is ridiculous.

Yeah, I can understand that and I I've had a lot of people pushing back on on both of those two terms. I'm gonna continue to use social justice warrior. Cultural Marxist. I've actually never called somebody a cultural Marxist.

I've called ideas Influenced by cultural Marxism because I think they are and I think I demonstrate that. But if you can catch me calling someone a cultural Marxist and saying that they're, you know Self-consciously cultural Marxist or critical theorists and it's inappropriate call me out on it.

I'm willing to retract those kinds of things, but I'm gonna continue using social justice warrior, even though I know it triggers. Even though I know it's a little bit risky to do it. I'm gonna continue to do it.

So sorry, I can't control my language at some point and has to someone has to be mature.

Someone has to Truly exhibit now. Kofi has not Kofi. Meng has not used the term white supremacist. But but here's the thing though, like this all rings very hollow. You want to control my language? Don't call me a social justice warrior.

And meanwhile, we've got Eric Mason calling me Angloid on the inside. We've got people calling half the country white supremacist. We've got your boy Lex calling John MacArthur a kinnest and a Klansman.

Yeah, somebody's gonna have to get mature here real quick. And right now I don't see the immaturity on my side or even your side, but I do see one side Documenting things and the other side just making crazy accusations without any evidence.

That's what I see.

The love of Christ and say hey, you know what? Can we talk like adults? I've been asking.

Constantly let's talk like adults. So far Only one person has been willing to do it and it looks like you're gonna be the second and I'm looking forward to it, brother.

And come to a solution on this matter and. And we will go far. I agree brother. I agree. One of his videos. How that would be.

This thing what I'm doing here interacting with your video I I don't want to do this too much because I think it's not as helpful as a back-and-forth Interaction where we can both cross-examine each other talk to each other face-to-face man-to-man as brothers.

I'm looking forward to it, man.

One of the greatest indictments he had was when a Former gang member had came to his church, but he was excited. But then he noticed that the guys slowly stopped coming. And he saw the guy one time and he asked him why he stopped coming.

He said well because I felt more like I was in the family in my gang than I did at the church. Yeah, and that's the thing that's a that's a person who's not converted though.

Right. I mean if somebody says hey, I like my criminal organization more than the church. That's someone who doesn't love Christ.

I mean, it's just that simple. Let's see what you have to say about it. So uninviting. Well, we want to talk about preaching the gospel. Preach the gospel with this how you live. Amen to that brother.

But the reality is if someone doesn't love the church.

They don't love Christ. That's an unconverted person. They need the gospel. Absolutely.

And once we can get come together we can merge preach the gospel live the gospel. That's all we're saying this side here saying live it. It's other got other side over here saying preach it.

No, no, no, no, no. We're saying preach it and love it. And that's the whole point. We think that that this idea of You know, it's white supremacy white privilege these ideas that the churches are racist.

We think that they're based on unbiblical presuppositions. And so we're saying look we need to live that gospel. But we need to do it according to Scripture and that's what we want to talk about Scripture and I'm looking forward to talking about Scripture with you.

Coffee main merge the two.

Will be unstoppable. Amen, that's what I'm talking about the simplicity. That's what I'm talking about. One side just wants to preach. Okay, that's over generalization. But that's the idea. That's the thank you.

I appreciate that nuance there.

I appreciate that because that's true. That's not only an ungeneralization, but it's in general not really true. It's true.

Sometimes I'll give you that kind of what I get from them. It's always preaching. Preach it live it do both.

Anyway, I know you haven't watched my videos and that's totally cool. You don't have to but I've said this constantly bro. I've said this constantly that I cannot stand the Sunday school answer I'll just preach the gospel or Jesus is the answer.

Well, yeah, obviously Jesus is the answer but Jesus is the king he has Righteousness and justice that we need to extract from his word and apply it to our everyday lives in every every area of life. It's very specific to it's not just overarching principles of love because we as fallible humans can't define love without the scripture.

We have all kinds of ideas of what love means. That's not scriptural. So Jesus. Yes, Jesus is the answer. Preaching the gospel is the answer but the Great Commission is about more than conversion. It's about more than baptizing people.

It's also about teaching them to obey everything that Christ commands. And what does Christ command? Well Christ wrote the scriptures, bro. He wrote the law of God. He wrote all of this stuff including stuff about justice.

And so yeah, I know you don't watch my video. So yeah, I don't think you're talking about me. But Yeah, I'm right there with you, bro. And that's why I constantly am asking people. Let's talk about this.

Let's talk about the Bible and no one's really taking me up on it except for you. I'm looking forward to it.

That's it for this video. Thanks for watching. Sorry for being as long as it was. I usually don't make really long videos but anyway, thank you for watching. If you're new, please subscribe and.

God bless. God bless you Kofi Mangan. Let me go ahead and give you a thumbs up here. I have subscribed to your channel and I'm looking forward to watching the Content. By the way, nice beard. Anyway, I hope this is helpful.

God bless.