Miracles, Signs, Wonders, and the Trinity with Justin Peters

Let's try it one more time. Good evening. We are live and this is not Andrew Rappaport. This is a pastor Justin Pierce. I must have hit the wrong video clip to intro and just me and a few people we know here tonight wanna really welcome everybody to come in.

Hope you're ready to have a really good conversation. Justin's gonna be in about 10 minutes or so. He's running a few minutes behind. He was power lifting or something. I don't know what he's been doing.

So he's not here. Andrew's not here either. Just kind of give a quick update. He went back down to Florida. He went back down to see his mother and praise God. He got a opportunity to witness to her. She actually let him share the gospel with her.

And we're just praying that God will have his will in her life and that God will be gracious in saving her soul. And if you'd pray for that, that'd be wonderful. We've had, let's see, I got brother Josiah back in the back.

I'm gonna pull him up here, brother. How are you doing? Better than I deserve. That's the common phrase I keep hearing you say all the time too. It's better than I deserve.

Well, it's because I'm a horrible sinner who has broken all of God's laws and God graciously sent his son, the Lord Jesus Christ, fully God, fully man to die on a cross, pay the penalty for my sin. And because I've repented and trusted in him, I'm forgiven.

All my sins are washed away by his grace.

Amen, that's right, without a doubt. So we have Justin gonna be in here in just a few minutes, but before we have Justin come in, I've got something kind of funny to share with you. And so for everybody, you need to watch this.

I think you'll enjoy it. Let's see, let's pull this up here. So this is an Instagram account from Beth Moore. She says, brace yourselves. Today, I was having lunch with some staff and I told them someone had just asked if I had any pictures from any aerobics teaching days.

And I lamented that I couldn't find one. We didn't have cell phones and the like at that time and nobody thought to bring a camera. It was a workout, not a photo op. The moment I was, I said it, my coworker Sabrina replied, I've got a video.

And so she plays it. So just kind of give you what's going on here for the audio portion. For those that are handicapped with the video portion. So here you go. She says, you gotta be kidding me. And she plays it and she says she nearly can't stop laughing because apparently she taught five classes a week at the Houston's First Baptist Church.

And let's see, this is for your, she put it out there and said, everybody it's funny and for enjoyment. So this is Beth Moore. And only thing I could do is think flash dance or something like that. I just like, okay, that's all I can think of.

I just, I don't know what to think of. Anyway, so that's your entertainment for tonight. That was something else. I couldn't believe I, actually you won't believe who sent that to me. Who sent that to you?

Justin Pierce. He said, it was like, you've got to see this. Wow. I'm surprised she didn't delete it. Oh yeah. I mean, no, she put it out there but she's very proud of that though. You got to think she's extremely proud of the, you know, Chris, Chris Honnold's.

He says, I'm pretty sure I'd throw a hip out trying those moves.

She looks like she's in her twenties or something. Yeah. Yeah, definitely much younger.

But you know, you think about it. That's when you have that type of Christianity in the church and I'm not saying anything wrong with, you know, exercising by any means but when you have the type of Christianity in the church that's part of your, you know, your activity.

You know, I was teaching this as part of the classes the yoga classes and all these others. Ah, there's a brother. I'll bring brother Justin in. Hey brother, how you doing? Hey guys, doing well. How are y 'all?

Doing good. Looks like you made it here. I made it. Yeah, I made it. So I just played the video. Do you want to see it again? Sure. The video? Yeah. Okay. I just, I just played it. So let's see. I got to pull it back up.

All right. Give me just a second. So this was the, the Beth Moore video. I'm going to let you, let you pull some comment on it. Oh man. I'm thinking the only thing I can think of is splash dance. I just like, maybe, maybe Kevin Bacon.

There you go.

Yeah. I mean, what do you say that? That's not even something that people had to go digging for. She put that up herself. Yeah. She put that out there. Yeah. I thought that was. She's narcissistic in the extreme.

Okay. In the extreme. Joanne says that looks like a rain dance.

Yeah. Oh man. Well, you know, and you think about it though, we, Joe Siner, we're just saying, she said that she taught those classes five days a week at a Baptist church in Houston. I just, you know, I mean, we have churches all over the place where Christians are teaching yoga.

They're teaching, you know, all kinds of different things, but there's not much gospel. There's not much, you know, doctrine or theology in there. It's, you know, and Beth Moore is prime example of that.

So. Oh yeah.

Yeah, totally. I tell people Beth Moore has never been, she's never been sound, but her teaching was, let's say less bad 20 years ago than what it is now. She's gotten progressively worse. I mean, she's going the exact opposite direction that you would expect a biblically qualified Bible teacher to be going.

I mean, I hope that the Lord allows me to live another 10, 20 years. I would hope that 10, 20 years from now, my teaching will be better than it is today. Yeah. And that's what you would expect just from accumulated understanding of scripture.

That's what you would expect, but hers, she's going the wrong direction. She's getting progressively worse.

Yeah, I totally agree. You know, and that's one thing I was thinking is that as she's gotten older, she has worked harder to find herself in the word of God than she has trying to find God in the word.

Oh yeah, yeah. I mean, that's what I, I mean, I don't know what you think about that, but it's just like, I was thinking everywhere she sees her doctrine, her theology, what she believes, you know, steeped in the word of God.

And I think that's terrifying.

If y 'all, do y 'all remember the tweet she had, this was a few years ago, but about Noah, what she said about Noah? Oh my word. Talk amongst yourselves while I try to pull this out, Google it real quick.

Oh, please find it. Yes, please do.

And see if I can pull this out. I thought you were going to bring up the thing that she said about, there's this one pastor saying, women, keep your body parts to yourselves and to your husbands. And she's saying, we don't want to hear about your unders.

And then the what guy, he posted a video from her saying, don't be a mean girl and keep yourself for your husband. Well, and think about,.

Oh, Priscilla Shrier has commented on this Instagram thing, but think about this. She was talking about, I wore leotards and tights and shorts. So I figure I must have either been guest teaching somewhere or leading a seminar.

And needed to go that, that takes some extra steps for modesty's sake. So that's what's in this Instagram. Was this part of the seminar that she was teaching? Is that the way I'm understanding this? And it's like, well, okay.

Maybe she needed the extra money or having something like that. I don't know. But she's talking about for modesty's sake. Well, wait a minute. It's okay for her to talk about modesty, but if anybody else does it, you need to keep your mouth shut.

How dare you mansplain and all that.

But that's what happens when you go woke. That's what happens when you get into social justice is truth is not what's important. It's whoever is speaking. They, and their life experiences and their cultural identification or whatever, that's what matters.

Not the content, but who it is who's doing the speaking. So, I mean, as you said, Beth Moore said the same thing as this pastor did. His name escapes me right now, but she was saying the same thing 12, 13 years ago.

But when he says it, oh, he's a sexist, mind your own unders. So, I mean, she is the epitome of narcissism and hypocrisy. She's a false teacher. I have absolutely no hesitation whatsoever calling Beth Moore a false teacher.

Yeah, and I don't blame you there. It's like when you're trying to have a discussion about Beth Moore, you have nine times out of 10, somebody's going to be, how dare you say anything bad about Beth Moore?

I remember 14 or 20 years ago when she was this or she did that and you go, well, yeah. 14, 20 years, she's still bad. Her theology and doctrine was still off, but it was harder to find, and that's the truth of it.

I'm going to try to send this over to myself so I can let everybody see it.

Okay, yeah, I sent a text to that too to see if there's some way you can get it on the screen, but this is a Yeah, give me just a second and then I can,.

That's one thing I like about Dropbox. So, yeah, he's, let's see, I think I've got it sent to me. So we have a full and wonderful show. There it is, there it is. We got a full and wonderful show. We're going to really try to have

Is it just going to be the three of us tonight? No Anthony or Andrew? Well, Anthony's just, he's lost his mind and he just, no, I'm just kidding. I don't know where he's at. He's in Florida.

I don't know where he's at. So it's He's at a church in Florida, I think teaching there.

Yeah, he's teaching there. Okay.

Yeah, and Andrew actually went back down to Florida. I don't know if you saw it or not, but he was able to share the gospel with his mother, I guess this afternoon or something like that. Oh, good, good.

So praise God for that. Let me see, I actually pulled this up finally.

I told Andrew, even if his mother dies lost, he'll have the blessing of having a clear conscience knowing that he's shared the gospel with her. So yeah, so this is Beth Moore. See, this was a few years ago, actually about five years ago, I think it was 2017.

But she says, we've got this Noah instinct. This drive in us to build arcs and shut ourselves in with our own kind. Then we shut ourselves further in with our phones. Then we get claustrophobic, bored and wonder why.

Open a window and watch for a dove with an olive tree. There's a life out there. Okay. What are you talking about? That's what she gets from Noah? Like, okay, so.

My eyes of Jesus radar is one off the charts.

Right? I mean, it's like hitting the peg. I mean.

Well, but think about it too though, when you're so self-centered that you would say that, that you only see the naturalistic trimmings of that passage. You know what I'm saying? I mean, yeah, okay. There was trees.

There's an olive twig. But what was it a sign of? It was a sign that the judgment had come to an abatement and the whole world had died.

Right. I mean, being in the arc, that was a good thing. Yeah. Oh yeah. If you had been living in this day and age, that's where you had wished you had been, was in the arc. That was a good thing to be in the arc.

And she makes it out like it's a bad thing, having this Noah instinct and we build arcs and then we get claustrophobic. And I mean, you gotta be kidding me. That, and see, that's why I say she's getting worse.

I mean, she's getting worse. That is such a, that is loony tunes. It takes far more effort to come up with an interpretation of a passage of scripture that bizarre than it would to just read it and understand it for what it is.

I mean, you've gotta work hard to get it that wrong. Yeah.

You know, and that's the thing is if you think about it, it's not that hard to look, and I'm not trying to simplify it to this point, but if you look at the Bible, it's not that hard to look at the clear text of scripture.

You know, there's an old saying that it's so shallow, the theological doctrinal issues are so shallow that a child can swim in it. Yet there's so much debt to it that a theologian, you know, will never reach the bottom.

I may have messed up the exact quote, but think about this. When you intentionally try to be shallow, you're basically slapping God in the face. You're saying, God, I don't care what you say. You know, to the authors, I don't care what you say.

The authorial intent doesn't matter.

Right. Right. And I always spend my whole time in this book.

I was just about to do the same thing. Josiah did not put me up to this. I just, since we're talking about hermeneutics, I just like, this is a, there we go. This is a handy little short little book too, but it's really, really good.

You know, kind of a quick reference, hermeneutical. So anyway, go ahead, Josiah.

Oh, well, I appreciate you holding it up too. But this booklet, it's about 20 some pages. It's 20 pages. And what it does is it gives you a well-reasoned argument for interpreting the Bible as the authors intended it to.

You might notice this is me on the cover. I was thinking of putting Joel Osteen on the cover because my opening illustration is a Joel Osteen Bible study. What you do is you sit in a chair, put a blindfold over your eyes, pretend what's in the Bible, you're reading the Bible, and then go up on a platform that says, this is my Bible.

I am what it says I am. I do what it says I do. And then go off and never touch it again. Oh, yeah. Right. Yep. Yep. Yeah. Then it gives the gospel at the end by exegeting John 3, 16. Yeah, it's a good book.

It argues for it and it presents it in a very clear, concise way.

OK, so here comes the big question. Humble Clay says, where can we get your book?

It's available. You can get it by. Last time I checked with Andrew, he said if you buy anything from Striving for Eternity, you can pretty you can you get the booklet with whatever you purchase. So if you buy my first book, When My Ox Scores My Neighbor, using Hermetics Travel from Mount Sinai to Mount Zion, which is also another short book that demonstrates how to use hermeneutics, then you can also get the booklet.

What does it mean to me? And I know, Justin Peters, you saw them when you go places. And it's also available. It's also available on Amazon .com. And I don't really have the means to sell them personally, but I try to get it to where you can get it.

Well, just to be clear, too, on Amazon, it's not like we're going to run out. If you're not going to run out, they'll print them. So guys, they're really good. They're really good resources. My wife just brought me a drink.

Isn't that so? Oh, well, that's nice. Such a good wife. That's OK. I was I was dying of thirst. And I said, I said, I better get something to drink. And I saw that you got that. And I thought, huh?

Oh, you got Chick-fil-A. I got me a Chick-fil-A drink. I love their. That's cold blooded to put Chick-fil-A in front of a man who lives in a state that nearest Chick-fil-A is like seven hours away.

Well, I would I would drive you one, man. I'll drive one to your house. It's persecution. Oh, man, that's somebody must really be mad at you for not having one around there.

Yeah, we got someone watching from Australia. Oh, oh, yeah.

Yeah, Joe Kobe. Kobe. OK, yeah, let's pull him up. Absolutely. Joe, say hi. Joe. Hey, brother. Thank you for tuning in. Thank you for your kind words. Absolutely. Blessings to you and your family. Absolutely.

That's wonderful. Well, you're let's see, we're we're about 20 minutes in. So let's let's go ahead and get started with a little bit of our discussion here. I mean, this, you know, we have some things to talk about.

So so we we titled this I titled this today, Miracle Signs, Wonders and the Trinity. And the reason that we did that is is we've had a lot of people coming in lately talking about, you know, their son, the the signs that they have, the the spiritual gifts they have, you know, speaking in tongues and all these other things.

And and one thing that I've, you know, in the seminar I've been studying a lot of is the ministry of Jesus Christ. OK, and not only his personal ministry, but his his ministry to his disciples and the ones around him.

And there there are some issues when it comes to people making claims that they have, you know, they have the ability to, you know, to, you know, God gives them revelation. You know, Justin, you talk about it all the time.

God told me this. God told me that. So I want to talk about those things quickly about God told me. What is what is this? We're talking about divine revelation. And I want to ask you this. Can God give you a revelation of something, an event or a prophecy or something that's to come without it being authoritative, without it being as authoritative as the word of God itself?

It's interesting that you had kind of like the part B to that. So my initial thought when you said, can God thought you're going to say, can God speak to us or can God stop there? I would say, well, yes, he can.

He does have the ability. The question is, is, is he doing those things? But since you said, can he give, I mean, some people may have heard me say God could speak to me through a leprechaun in my refrigerator if he wanted to.

He has the ability, but I've got no reason to think he will. And a lot of reasons to think that he won't. But can God speak out loud? What's that?

He's a donkey for crying out loud. That's right. That's right. Made a donkey talk.

So he does have the ability. But can God speak in such a way that it's not as authoritative as scripture? Is that basically the question?

Yeah, yeah. And because and as that as the premise, let's talk about that.

No, no. No, because when God is speaking, God is speaking. And whatever he says is authoritative. Amen. Whatever he says has just as much authority as any verse in scripture as John 3, 16, as Romans 10, 9 and 10 is, you know, whatever, whatever verse in scripture, when, when, when, when God speaks, that's authority.

So he cannot speak less authoritatively on one occasion than he does on another. He cannot do that. Not that he won't do it. He can't. There are some things that God cannot do. And speaking in a, like a, a, a second tier kind of authoritative level is quasi authority.

He, he, he means it, but he, he just kind of means it, you know, it, it just, uh, no, no, if God is speaking, God is speaking. And whatever he says is absolutely authoritative. So the way the question is worded, no, he cannot do that.

And that's why I worded it that way, because I'm not asking, can God, you know, make a rock that he can't lift, right? I'm not asking that. What I want to make sure of is because there are people, even Beth Moore on a continuous basis, every day I had a word from God.

I had a prophecy, you know, uh, you did, brother, I think I've seen everything you've ever done. So I'm trying to remember you, you did this, you did a video about the, the prophetesses and the prophets that have made all these predictions, just mundane daily predictions.

And here's where we got to be careful. Yeah. Guys, I want to make this clear. When people say I had a word from God or God said, or God told me, you have to ask yourself, is it normative for God to reveal himself through the, the prophetic use of the, his miraculous prophetic use?

Is it normative for him to use, to do that? Or is there a special reason? And not just, not just God told me prophecy, but also divine miracles of healing and things like that, because they're all interconnected and they all have a purpose.

They all have, every single one of them have a foundational purpose according to the scripture. And we're going to talk about those things. I want to get into those. I, I, I started even in the, in the post acts two 22, I started because that's our foundational starting point.

And we're going to old Testament, new Testament. And I want to talk about these. And I, I actually, I have some, some notes that I want to express, you know, and, and have, have you guys bounce off of some of this, if you don't mind.

So, so what is a miracle? And what is its purpose? Maybe we'll just start there. Justin, if you could give maybe a fly over, you know, 30 ,000 foot view of what is a miracle, maybe we can talk about that just real quick.

Okay.

I want Josiah to come in here. I don't want to, it just calls. I'm known for this issue. I don't want to be the only one, but okay.

So let me, let me fix it. Hold on, hold on. Okay. Now we're good. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. Thank you. Oh man. First he insults me with Chick-fil-A. Now he insults you Josiah. Yeah. I had to kick him both.

That's okay. I can get him back. He knows, he knows all about me so he can get me.

Okay. So 30 ,000 foot view of what is, what is a miracle? I'll start by saying miracle is a word that is way overused today. Almost everything is a miracle. And if everything is a miracle, then nothing is a miracle.

So you hear people say, Oh, there's a miracle that I, you know, ran into you today. No, that's not a miracle. It might be a kind providence of God, but it's not a miracle. A miracle is when God does something that has absolutely no naturalistic explanation.

That it, it defies, it transcends the laws of physics that, you know, the natural order of things that God does something that has absolutely zero natural explanation. Yeah. That's a miracle. Parting the red sea is a miracle.

An ax head floating is a miracle. A burning, a bush burning that is not consumed. That's a miracle. Those are physical miracles. In fact, and I'll say, and this might surprise some people to hear me say this.

One of the most common misconceptions about me and my theology is that I believe that I don't believe that God heals people today. That's not true at all. I do believe God heals people today. In fact, just a few weeks ago, I was, I was preaching at a church in Virginia and I heard one of the more incredible testimonies of a genuine miracle of healing that I've ever heard.

I've heard a few that were really credible. This one though, it was a, it was a first person kind of a primary source thing. But anyway, long story short, there's this couple in this church in Virginia and they adopted a little baby boy and it was prearranged because the boy's mother was strung out on meth and who knows what else, all kinds of stuff.

And the mother knew she couldn't take care of him. So it had been prearranged that when this little boy is born, he will go to this couple in the church. Well, because of all the drugs that his mother was on, he was born with a lot of health problems and he had serious intestinal issues.

They knew that. And so they did emergency surgery on the little guy. I think like right after he was born and they went in there, opened him up and the doctor said that his intestines were ribbons. Just shredded.

I mean, there's, and there was so bad that there was nothing they could do for him. And so they just sewed him up fully expecting him to die in a pretty short amount of time. So they just sewed him up and they gave him to the adoptive parents and didn't have long to live.

And they were going to try to give him some intravenous, you know, a nourishment or for a while anyway. But after he came out of surgery and they brought him to his parents, after a little while, I think later that day, he pooped.

Yeah. Which is impossible. Yeah. And they called the nurse in, the nurse saw it, the nurse called the doctors in, the doctors were dumbfounded. And then a few hours after that, he pooped again. Yeah. And so they did a test, a barium test.

You know, they give the, that I've had one before. It's horrible. They called it a milkshake when I was a kid. Oh, drink this. This is a milkshake. Yeah, it's not a milkshake. It was horrible. But anyway, they gave him some of that and they followed it all the way through his digestive system, went all the way through, lickity split, no leaks.

That's a miracle. And I rejoice in that. Yeah. Recovering from a cold, recovering from COVID, you know, a slow progressive recovery. That's not a miracle. That it's a kind providence of God because really everything is a providence of God.

So it's a kind providence of God, or maybe even slowly recovering from cancer, whether it's through treatment or, you know, chemo diet, whatever, you know, if you, if you slowly recover from cancer, that's a kind providence of God, but that's not a miracle.

What happened to this little guy was a miracle. So there are miracles, I believe. Absolutely. 100%. And the greatest miracle of all is not even a physical miracle. It's a spiritual miracle. And that's the new birth.

Yeah. Amen. So I'm going to give some, I want to give you a couple of definitions. A .H. Strong, in his theology, his book on theology, page 118, he says that a miracle, and I'll post this up in a moment.

A miracle is an event in nature so extraordinary in itself, and so coinciding with the prophecy or command of a religious teacher or leader as fully to warrant the conviction on the part of those who witness it, that God has wrought it with the design of certifying that this teacher or leader has been commissioned by him.

Now, listen to the, listen to the, the way he's saying this. Now we're talking, you know, biblical miracles. Now, yes, Justin, I totally agree with you. You know, those things do happen today, apart from any man.

Mm-hmm. But in the biblical narrative, we see that the Bible tells us that God uses the secondary means. In other words, he uses men. And one of the things that he does in his miracles and the working of his miracles, Andrew says this, and I agree.

We see three times in history where miracles were normative. And if you look in the time with Moses, they were normative and they were so shocking that everybody had to see it, hear it, and submit to it, even if they hated the messenger, even if they hated the message.

And that's why this is important, because what we're talking about is the sufficiency of scripture to tell us what is going on in history and the miracles that took place. Why were they given to us? Not can, you know, Justin jump around and say, hey, look, or Josiah jump around and myself, you know, oh, look, I've got a prophecy.

I've got a miracle. You know, I can, you know, I can speak in tongues. I can do, you know, what, heal your foot and make it one leg longer than the other. And I can, you know, I had a word from the Lord that I'm supposed to comb your hair and, you know, all this stuff.

Here's what a miracle looks like, according to scripture, OK, if, if you were to go, and I'm jumping around just a little bit, if you go to Exodus chapter four, verses one through nine, I'm going to read it to you.

It's a pretty lengthy section. Exodus chapter four, verses one through nine, says this. Then Moses said to God, what if they will not believe me or listen to what I say? For they may say the Lord has not appeared to you.

So there's going to be a pushback. What if it happens? The Lord said to him, what is that in your hand? He said, a staff. Then he said, throw it on the ground. And he threw it on the ground and it became a serpent miracle.

And Moses fled from it because he was scared to death because it was a snake. OK, Moses fled from it, but the Lord said to Moses, stretch out your hand and grasp it by the tail. So he stretched his hand out and he caught it and it became a staff in his hand.

That they may believe that the Lord, the God of their fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob has appeared to you. What was the purpose in the miracle?

So they believe Moses.

It was it was a process of vindication. It was not vindicating the the miracle. It was vindicating the miracle giver. I mean, the message giver. It was it was saying that this is how you know that this is a man of God.

This is not just any man of God, not not Justin, Josiah, Justin, not Andrew, but the man of God speaking on God's behalf, revelatory truth. And what was he saying to them? Let my people go, Pharaoh, and you better submit, because if you don't, what's going to happen?

God will judge you. More miracle, you know, and the miracle of the wrath of God. It goes on and he says this.

So you don't believe those are natural disasters, Justin, the plagues, either, Justin? What do you think, Justin?

Yeah, not so much. No, I don't think the Red Sea was just a few inches deep. And it was just yeah, millions of people. But think about it.

Which one would have been more of a miracle? That much water killing all those people. Either way you go, it's a huge miracle anyway. But, you know, it says the Lord further said to him, now put your hand into your bosom.

So he put his hand into his bosom and when he pulled it out, it was leprous like snow. And they said, put your hand into your bosom again. And he did it again. And he says this, so he put his hand in his bosom again.

And when he took out his hand out of his bosom, behold, it was restored like the rest of his flesh. And God said this, if they will not believe or heed the witness of the first sign, they may believe the witness of the last sign.

So the whole purpose is God vindicating his own authoritative messenger. Now, let's go see if we can make that a little bit clearer. Like I said, I jumped a little bit. I want to give you about four different purposes.

I'll let you guys jump in anytime you want to hear something. I want to give you four. This is from my professor, Doug Bookman, down at Shepherd's Theological Seminary. I think he's probably the greatest teacher I've ever met.

I'm going to tell you, Dr. Bookman is phenomenal. I love him to death. I think he's amazing. And he's taught me so much. But I want you to listen to this. He says a very important thing that you need to understand, a careful and precise definition of a biblical miracle must be given.

He says you see it in three different times, in the time of Moses, in the time of Ezekiel, and in the time of Jesus Christ and his ambassadors. He says there's four things that must be understood about miracles.

And I'm going to share those right here. Let me put this up. Okay. There we go. I think we've got it up. All right. So let's pull these up. A miracle must be non-counterfeitable. In other words, the local heretic.

Think about Moses, for example. He goes in, he starts doing these miracles. And what happened? Pharisees, little demonic horde come in. And whatever they did, they did this to try to disprove his authority.

But what needs to be understood is they were doing it by the power of Satan. And they were able to counterfeit miracles in some way for a couple of them. Right? They were to counterfeit a few of them.

And so what was it that God was doing? Not only was he proving the vindication of his man Moses, but he was also destroying the power of Satan in his midst right there. Because they eventually got to the point where they said, we can't counterfeit this.

When the frogs came, they said, we can't do that. When the lice came, we can't do that. When the boils came and it was all over and they were screaming at the Pharaoh, what? Let them go. Let them go. We've got to get out of this.

Please let them go. Yeah. They tapped out. They tapped out quick. And think about it. So four things that must happen. A true miracle must be non-counterfeitable. Now here today, what do you hear, guys?

What do you hear all the time? God told me, you know, prophecy, you got a vision. Justin, you deal with these prophets a lot. What do they talk about, about weather and generalized health and all this other stuff?

You know, I've got to... Oh, yeah. I mean, like miracle money showing up in your bank account and oh, so-and-so got healed or a metal plate, you know, disappeared and that kind of stuff. Of course, none of these things are ever documented.

The only documentation of any miracles that you see are no miracles at all, like Todd White going around out on the street, lengthening people's legs by about half an inch. So, which is a parlor trick, just manipulating the angle of the foot and the tilt of the foot and that kind of stuff.

So those are no miracles.

And I guys think when we're talking about miracles, divine miracles, true biblical miracles, miracles, they have to be non-counterfeitable. OK, Satan comes along. He tries to mimic. He sends his demons, the angels of light, counterfeit angels to come in.