Woke "Pastor" Sounds Just Like the SERPENT In the Garden! | Pastor Reacts

A Woke Reading of Genesis and the Claim That God Lied

A woke female pastor is about to claim that God is a liar, and therefore Eve is a hero for disobeying him in the garden. Watch this.

Despite two millennia of misogynistic interpretations of Genesis and Eve, there have always been other ways to read this story. When we look at it with fresh eyes, it's quite a remarkable story. Have you ever noticed that God lies to Adam and Eve?

What in the voddie bockum is going on here? We're about to get to the bottom of this speech, and when we find out what this is really about, it's going to make your blood boil. Let's get right into it.

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There is no unmediated scripture. All scripture is interpreted. We see this most clearly when people attempt to use the Bible to prove something. Like they are in the debate. Something I find deeply ironic, since there's nothing about it in the Bible.

Scripture is meant to be studied, not parsed out as individual verses to prove a point. Religious belief and commitments cannot only bear the weight of logic and reason and science and questioning, meaningful interpretation of scripture requires it.

Bible verses don't hold meaning outside of time or culture, nor do they hold the same meaning across time and cultures. They're always interpreted in the lived reality of faith communities like this one.

So you have to understand how these people get to their very weird, thoroughly unbiblical view of scripture. You have to front load your reading of the text with all these claims first, right? All this nonsense about lived experience, about mediated verses and different meanings over time, and then go to the Bible and start reading it.

That's the only way that you can draw the conclusions that she wants you to draw. Which is ridiculous because if you actually followed what this lady is suggesting everyone do, I mean, there goes the biblical God.

There goes God's design for mankind. There goes morality. There goes the gospel, right? It just goes right out the window.

Why?

Well, because it doesn't mean anything, you know? And if it did ever mean something, well, it doesn't retain the original meaning today because now it's different, right? That's what she's telling you.

Even if there are centuries of tradition associated with particular interpretations, like the role of women as leaders in churches, those interpretations are human and they're subject to revision, to new insight, to changing cultural realities, to re-imagining.

This is what it means to be part of a living faith community. People often ask me how I can be feminist and a Christian. My response is that being a feminist Christian is the only way I can be a Christian.

Feminist.

Yeah, I'll bet. You know, because what that entails is taking God's word, which the Bible teaches is unchanging and enduring forever, right? Isaiah 40 says that the grass withers, the flower fades, but the word of our God will stand forever.

You know, that means that you take that word and you make it say the exact opposite, right? That's how someone like this can be a Christian. You know, I love it. I was, I was watching Melissa Doherty recently.

She did a video where she said that she was a meat-eating vegan.

You know what I mean?

That's what woke feminist types who love postmodernism, they try to do with God's word. They play games with language. They take biblical concepts, they empty them of their original meaning, and then they wave around this shell of the concept, but now it's filled with garbage on the inside.

That's how they can call themselves Christians.

Feminist theology has taught me how to reinterpret Scripture in ways that are healing and life-giving. And I refuse to allow conservative Christians or anyone else to take away my God or my church. But let's face it, it's not just the author of 1 Timothy who thinks poorly of Eve.

The story of the Garden of Eden is one of the most iconic in Western culture. The crafty serpent, the temptress Eve, the duped Adam, nakedness, shame, original sin. That's what makes it such a good story.

Yeah, so notice what she's doing here. She's ultimately taking issue with Paul. She doesn't agree with Paul. So when Paul, I mean, this is what led up to it, right? Because Paul references the Garden of Eden in 1 Timothy, chapter two, in order to make a greater point about the hierarchy of authority in church, you know?

And she doesn't like that. So, you know, so she's going to say, oh, it's just Paul giving a bad take on Genesis, guys. You know why? Well, because there's no such thing as inerrancy. You see, there's no such thing as the inspired word of God.

So she's rejecting God's word in order to give her own take on what God really meant. Got it.

Misogyny, Tertullian, and the Context of 1 Timothy

While these are traditional interpretations of the story, they're not the only interpretations of the narrative. In fact, I would argue that these interpretations teach us more about the cultures of patriarchy that mark human history and the ideology of misogyny that is all too evident in that Christian history.

Misogyny is the hatred of women, and it helps us identify and understand cultural patterns and practices that actively harm women as women. Actions, practices, belief systems, even laws that contribute to hurting women have been a constant in human history and culture, and they have often been actively supported and reinforced by Christian theology.

The Dobson.

You know, I mean, there's elements of this that are not in dispute, you know, but notice this is this is the trick. You know, you say something that everybody can affirm and they can go, yeah, I can get behind.

That.

And then you smuggle in underneath that utter. Theological garbage decision is only the latest.

Version, and it certainly isn't the last. Second century theologian and church father Tertullian shared first Timothy's opinion of Eve, but he applied this perspective to all women saying, quote, You are the devil's gateway.

It is you who plucked the fruit of the forbidden tree. You are the first who deserted the divine law. You are the one who persuaded him whom even the devil was not strong enough to attack all too easily.

You destroyed the image of God, man, because of your dessert. That is death. Even the son of God had to die. End quote.

Yeah.

Did Tertullian make that statement?

Yeah, he did.

Is Tertullian representative of all church fathers and their view of women? Absolutely not. Absolutely not. It's a great soundbite, but the underlying argument that she's making is a bad one. Paul does not, as his lady wants to suggest, say what he says about women in first Timothy because of misogyny and patriarchy.

How do we know that you have to read the whole letter, guys? Look at this. First Timothy chapter two, verse 11. Let a woman learn quietly with all submissiveness. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man.

Rather, she is to remain quiet for Adam was now. Here's the appeal to Genesis. Adam was formed first, then Eve and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor. That's the fall in the Garden of Eden.

That's what this woman is trying to track, right? You have to understand, though, and bear this in mind. Paul is writing this letter after some wicked things have taken place in this church in history.

There were false teachers that were going around and leading some of the house churches astray. Now, we don't know the particulars about what exactly was being communicated by these false teachers, but we can infer that whatever it was, these claims ran right up against the gospel.

And they were even quite blasphemous. All right, look at this. First Timothy chapter six. If anyone teaches a different doctrine and does not agree with the sound words of our Lord Jesus Christ and the teaching that accords with godliness, he is puffed up with conceit and understands nothing.

Again, the false teachers are the backdrop for this particular statement. He has an unhealthy craving for controversy and for quarrels about words which produce envy, dissension, slander, evil suspicions, and constant friction among people who are depraved in mind and deprived of the truth, imagining that godliness is a means of gain.

The point is, there was great trouble in this church. There were false teachers going around causing trouble. Now, the church had already excommunicated two of the ringleaders, Hymenaeus and Alexander, right?

But you have to think, at the time that Paul is writing this letter, there are probably others who agreed with this false teaching that are still at that church. And so, Paul's concern is that the church can move forward, that it can rebuild, that Timothy can squash this trouble and raise up good leaders to replace the bad leaders.

You know, that's where the qualifications of elder and deacon come in, in first Timothy chapter three, you know, because they want to replace these horrible leaders. But that's also why Paul says what he says.

He wants the women to be silent and submissive. It's because there were younger women or younger widows who entertained these false teachers in their homes and furthered this trouble. So, I'm going sweepingly here, and I'm including both, you know, first and second Timothy here to get to this point, but that's what I mean.

Like, that's why Paul says what he says in first Timothy chapter two. That's the backdrop for all of it. But you have to ignore all of that, all of that trouble, it's clearly in the letter, in order to say, ah, Paul's a misogynist, guys.

Throughout Christian history, women have been blamed for original sin, for sexual immorality, and temptation, and even for the death of Jesus. And we've been told we must be submissive to men and that our hope for salvation lies in childbearing.

These ideas shape how we think and talk about including women having to have internalized.

This misogyny.

Nuh-uh. That's, wow, that, that is not what shapes the pushback against ending the life of the unborn in the womb.

Misogyny. My current research involves interviewing Christian women having. And Sally's a 40-year-old artist from North Carolina who wrestles with the fundamentalist beliefs she was raised with. Her struggles with mental health issues means that she and her partner decided not to have.

Children.

And she told me, quote, I never felt more like there was no God than those two weeks when I knew I was pregnant. Because basically what I grew up believing was Eve messed up. And Eve's the reason why we call it labor when you give birth.

So I didn't learn anything specifically about in church, but original sin, the audacity of you choosing to not have children and bear your sin for Eve's original sin, that not having kids is a sin because you're not paying for your sin by giving birth.

That I did believe.

End quote.

This is so bad. It makes you wonder, you know, if you don't believe what the Bible says. And clearly this lady does not believe it. She has to do some kind of interpretive backflips in order to get through it.

Hey, why are you even bothering to call yourself a Christian? You know? Why are you so committed to taking the sacred word of God and corrupting and warping it so that it says whatever you want?

You know what I mean?

Is this not the epitome of Romans chapter one? Look at this. For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him. But they became futile in their thinking and their foolish hearts were darkened.

Claiming to be wise, they became fools.

Reinterpreting Eve as Moral Agency and the Right to Abort

As a feminist theologian, one of the things that gives me joy is reinterpreting texts that have been used to hurt and control people. Because the God I know is full of light and life. Because the God I know holds me in my grief and walks with me in my pain.

I know that the sacred word of God is not a weapon. Nor should it ever be used to harm or shame anyone. Despite two millennia of misogynistic.

Notice the language, right? It's like, hey, we don't want to hurt anyone. Do you want to hurt anyone? Nobody wants to hurt anyone, lady. But what's going to happen is, again, notice the smuggling in of not even heretical claims.

I mean, these are blasphemous. What's about to come? Underneath the guise of, oh, yeah, nobody wants to hurt anybody. I don't want to hurt anybody. Does any Christian in here watching this want to hurt anybody?

That's not at all the way that this should be thought through and framed. It's being framed this way. The discussion. Because we want to be able to smuggle in things that are completely antithetical to the gospel.

Interpretations of Genesis and Eve. There have always been other ways to read this story.

Here it is.

I love the story of Eve in the garden. My youngest child is named Eve. When we look at it with fresh eyes, it's quite a remarkable story. Have you ever noticed that God lies to Adam and Eve? When the serpent plays the role of foil here, meant to set Eve up for her role as the bringer of wisdom and moral agency to the human community, set up for her action, is that God lies to her.

God told the first couple, you shall not eat of the fruit of the tree in the middle of the garden, nor shall you touch it or you shall die. And the serpent reveals the truth. You will not die for God knows that when you eat, your eyes will be opened and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

We're starting to see where this is going, right? So so the hero must be the serpent, guys. Right, is that where this is going? The serpent is the one who's trying to help. God's the liar here.

Boy.

You guys, this is worse than I thought.

And here we get to the real heart of the story, the verse in which Eve acts on behalf of all of humanity, all of us. In fact, the moment at which Eve not only exercises her own moral agency, but chooses that very trait to define what it means to be human.

That knowledge that makes us moral creatures, our ability to know good and evil. So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food and it was a delight to the eyes and that the tree was to be desired to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate.

She also gave some to her husband who was with her and he ate. When we say that we need to trust women to make the critically important decisions about whether they're going to continue a pregnancy, it's rooted in a reinterpreted understanding of the story of the Garden of Eden that recognizes and affirms the moral agency and wisdom that Eve chose in the garden.

I'm starting to get it, right? It to me, that's kind of a hard left, right? Because I thought it started off, I thought, we're talking about misogynists and silencing women in the church, right? But now we're starting to see what's underneath all of this.

It's justifying the right to end the life of the unborn. That's why we're going to say all of this garbage. And based on what is this good? Like, so we can, this justification based on what is this going to happen?

Well, it's this satanic interpretation of Genesis chapter three. She says she loves to reinterpret stuff. This is a satanic interpretation. This is literally the way that the serpent would tell this story from the serpent's perspective, right?

She sounds like the serpent in the garden. God's a liar. You know, I'm just trying to help. The serpent's the one, you know, the woman has to make a good decision. It's very wise, right? This is satanic.

And it was all about justifying ending the life of the unborn.

The story of Eve is the story of why humanity is able to distinguish between right and wrong. And it marks this moral agency, this knowledge as part of what it means to be like God, Imago Dei. Reinterpreting Eve's action as the origin of one of humanity's deepest connections with the divine helps us recognize the importance of respecting and supporting the moral agency of women.

Across the country, politicians and judges are acting to force the daughters of Eve to bear children, rejecting our moral agency, imposing state control over our bodies and our childbearing. We don't know what will happen in the days, weeks and months to come as this new administration continues to pursue a radical anti-agenda.

Genesis 3, Wisdom, and the Serpent’s Deception

Here we go. All right, look, this wasn't a sermon, guys. This was a satanic TED talk justifying the sin of Eve and blaspheming the character of God. All in the name of what? Standing up for the right to end the lives of the unborn in the womb.

That is gross. It's despicable. I honestly, I don't even, I don't even know how to like approach this, right? Because like I said, I think we started in First Timothy, didn't read it, right? But then we ended in Genesis three, still didn't read it.

So where do we go from here? Listen, if you want my explanation of First Timothy chapter two, I'm going to give you a link for a video that I did on that. Go check that out, OK? Why don't we go to Genesis?

Because I think there's something in it in the fall that a lot of people miss. Watch this. Genesis chapter three, verse one. Now the serpent was more crafty than any other beast of the field that the Lord God had made.

Now stop right here. Why does the author include this particular statement? The serpent was more crafty. Some translations say more cunning. It's actually a very important detail because watch this. He said to the woman, did God actually say, you shall not eat of any tree in the garden?

Notice the negative. You shall not eat of any tree in the garden. That's not what God said. In Genesis chapter two, verse 16, God said, you may surely eat of every tree of the garden. You may freely eat of every tree, but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, you shall not eat one tree only.

For in the day that you eat of it, you shall surely die. That's what God said. Every tree except for one. But the serpent frames the question in the exact inverse. And that's not by mistake. Did God actually say you shall not eat of any tree in the garden?

Did you see it?

The serpent is asking a leading question that purposefully misrepresents God's command because he's trying to get Eve to rethink the character of God. So instead of the focus being, you know, on God's generosity with all the trees, the servant says, wait, did I hear this right?

God said you can't eat from any of the trees. Is that right? So again, the focus shifts away from generosity to restriction.

Do you see that?

By the way, Satan does something similar with Jesus in the wilderness in Matthew four, you know, he misrepresents God's word in order to invite Jesus to sin. It's the same thing. And this, as it turns out, has an effect on Eve.

Look at what happens. Verse two. And the woman said to the serpent, we may eat of the fruit of the trees in the garden, but God said, you shall not eat of the fruit of the tree that is in the midst of the garden.

Neither shall you touch it lest you die.

Okay.

Notice how Eve has shifted the command of God twice, right? So the first part is she left out the part where God says you can freely eat from every tree. You can surely eat from every single tree except one.

So again, the generosity of God is toned down by Eve. She's following the lead of the serpent. And then she adds a command that God never gave. Neither shall you touch the fruit of that tree lest you die.

She's adding to the restriction that God originally gave. And that's not what God said at all. God didn't add that line.

Eve did.

What this suggests, ladies and gentlemen, is that the serpent is enticing Eve to question God's character. He's misrepresenting God by reframing the command in order to question God's goodness and his generosity to shift her mindset from trusting God to becoming suspicious of God.

And it's already working. Before she even takes the fruit and eats it in verse six, the manipulation of the serpent is already working. Verse four, but the serpent said to the woman, you will not surely die for God knows that when you eat of it, your eyes will be opened and you will be like God knowing good and evil.

So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food and that it was a delight to the eyes and that the tree was to be desired to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate. And she also gave some to her husband who was with her and he ate.

Okay.

Notice the key phrase, the tree was to be desired to make one wise. Pop quiz, ladies and gentlemen, you didn't realize there's going to be a quiz today. What does God's word teach about the true source of wisdom?

Where does it really come from? Anybody got a guess? You want to throw it in the comments? Proverbs chapter two, verse six, for the Lord gives wisdom from his mouth, come knowledge and understanding. Does it say that a tree gives wisdom?

No, the Lord gives wisdom. The sin in the garden of Eden is grasping at wisdom on your own terms. This type of sin says I will be wise without God seeking to become like God without God. That's the first sin in the garden.

This is idolatry. This is autonomy, all wrapped up in the disobedience of God's command. I mean, you realize, ladies and gentlemen, that Adam and Eve, had they not sinned, they would have had wisdom. They would have received it from the mouth of God as they continued to spend time with God in the garden.

And by the way,.

That was the whole point of being in the garden, right? Fellowshiping with God, walking with God, knowing God, letting him know you back. You realize that this fundamental fall in the garden, it reverberates all throughout scripture and even into our own day, seeking to be like God without God.

Think about that. The Bible teaches that there are two kinds of wisdom, as it turns out, the wisdom from above and the wisdom from the earthly or the demonic. Look at this, James 3, verse 15. This is not the wisdom that comes down from above, but is earthly, unspiritual, demonic.

For where jealousy and selfish ambition exist, there will be disorder in every vile practice. But the wisdom from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, open to reason, full of mercy and good fruits, impartial and sincere.

How can James talk about the wisdom that comes from above? Well, it's because James knows what happened in the garden. As a matter of fact, if you read the whole epistle, which again, this is what we do here at this channel, guys.

We don't read a verse. We read the entire context. We read the entire letter. If it's an epistle, because it's important. If you read the whole entire epistle, James, you'll find James sprinkling his writing with references to the fall in the garden.

What you and I just witnessed today is the wisdom of the demonic. We have a lady who put on a robe and she got up to a pulpit in order to misrepresent God's word, just like the serpent. And if there was any confusion as to what she was doing exactly, she made sure to take us right back to the serpent at the fall.

You know what I mean?

In Genesis 3, she tried to claim that God was the liar, that the serpent was the good guy. And Eve was some kind of noble figure for disobeying God, right?

Because why?

Because she's standing up for autonomy and women's rights and something to do with ending the unborn or something.

I've had enough.

Look, if this isn't one of the best commercials for reading God's word, I don't know what is.

Amen.

All right, friends, now it's your turn. What do you think of this particular teaching? Let me know in the comments below. But hey, do me a favor, okay? As always, let's pray for this lady. You know, I'm struck by the heart of God.

I'm struck by the mercy of God, right? The love that God shows for even his own enemies. And I can see that in Jesus' teachings, like in the Sermon on the Mount. Right now on the Patreon, we're going through the book of Acts.

I see it in the book of Acts, right? God's mercy is clearly on display, even for the evildoer. And the reality is it's not too late for this lady to repent and follow after the one true God, not as long as she has breath left in her lungs.

So let's pray for her. Let's pray for the people who listen to her.

Amen.

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