Roman Catholicism's Imperfect Atonement | Apologia Radio Highlight
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- 00:00
- But here's the point. According to the Roman Catholic, and I bring this up to this gentleman, you know, you went to mass on Sunday.
- 00:07
- He says he went on Sunday. And so there's a cleansing that took place on Sunday. But here we are on Wednesday, and I said, have you committed any venial sins since Sunday?
- 00:15
- He says, well, yes. And I said, so you still have now sins to be accountable for God. And so that atonement, that mass, that presentation that happened there did not perfect you.
- 00:27
- It needs to be represented again and again and again. And so if you miss the mass, then you're going to miss that opportunity to have those sins cleansed.
- 00:37
- And then you could die in that state and you've got to deal with those sins. And so I was pointing out that the atonement of Christ is a perfect atonement that perfects forever those who draw near to God through him.
- 00:47
- And it's a once for all sacrifice. Jesus sat down. It's not, it's what makes him so much better than all those other priests in the past where they don't sit down.
- 00:56
- They are constantly repeating the sacrifices. It is a repetitive sacrifice. Whereas Jesus' sacrifice in atonement is once for all, he sits down, it's able to perfect forever those who draw near to God through him.
- 01:09
- And Jesus says, it is finished. And what I was pointing out is that Rome has so distorted the meaning of all of the atonement and the
- 01:18
- Eucharist and all the rest that it perfects nobody. It perfects nobody ultimately, and you don't have peace with God.
- 01:27
- And when he was saying, no, I do have peace with God. I was like, are you going to go to purgatory? He said, well, probably yes.
- 01:32
- What for? Is it for sin that you have to deal with? And the other Roman Catholic, sweet Roman Catholic lady said, well, justice still has to be satisfied.
- 01:42
- It's like, that's the point. That's the point. The sufficiency of the work of Jesus. There you go.
- 01:48
- Justice was satisfied at the cross. And so I said, so wait a second. So you're saying that Jesus satisfies the justice of God for your sins, but you also have to satisfy, have it satisfied as well.
- 01:59
- And so that's what purgatory is about. That's what she said. Of course, she doesn't represent Rome and the papacy and everything, but that's how she understands as a
- 02:06
- Roman Catholic. And so I was challenging him that you don't have peace with God because you still have sins that you have to be accountable for, that you need to be purified.
- 02:13
- These things need to be purged and all the rest. And so the atonement that you believe in is not the atonement that Bible says actually took place.