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We're going to Romans 8. I don't know that there's a deeper Theological piece of work in the

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Bible. So we're going here and what you will leave with I believe Is more of Jesus.

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I do see you you are tuning in here this weekend Showing up in your places, but likely going through potentially a dark time a difficult season of your life

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Hardship that you did not expect. She wants to teach us something that will help us when we are going through Something that makes us question our calling or doubt the strength we have to achieve it

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Is that the same motivation Paul has in writing this portion of Romans 8?

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Oh, I mean, what should I be doing? Should I be doing something different? Should I why this tension of I know where I'm supposed to be going but I can't

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I don't know how to weather The hardship of where I am right now the not becoming as quickly as I'd like To become who

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God's made me to be now for a Christian who understands their sin nature and wrestles with their flesh there is

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Definitely a feeling of frustration and eager desire to be set free

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Knowing that God has called us to be like Christ But not feeling like we're making much progress in that area and that is really what

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Paul is talking about here the spirit within us Grows to be set free from the incorruptible the perishable

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That is that what Ruth is talking about here Purpose -driven theology makes

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God's promises very temporal and of this world It's about God's work through you and I to bring change to this world

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Heaven hell and eternity Will be less addressed in their messages because of this but Paul's teachings here are

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Centered on eternity our great hope the end result of our salvation our glorification

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Welcome to the thirdly equipped podcast where we compare the teachings from popular women's ministry books

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Conferences Bible studies, etc to scripture our focus is 2nd Timothy 3 16 to 17 that all

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Scripture is God breathed and is useful for teaching rebuking correcting and training in righteousness

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So the man or woman of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work

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I'm your host Melba toast. May this episode bless you and bring glory to God Hello ladies,

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I'll go back to another episode of thoroughly equipped So happy you could join me for this episode if you are new well, welcome

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We are continuing with our critique of the very popular women's conference the if gathering

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The speakers that teach at this conference are some of the most popular female speakers within evangelicalism

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Within well Christian American Christianity today and this season we're taking a very in -depth dive in discerning this conference or Basically, really it's a whole ministry women's ministry and I have planned in this season to Address it in parts to make it

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I think a little more Edible Basically using the way

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I discern Female speakers individually I take it and look at it broaden it and look at a whole woman's ministry

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Okay, so in the beginning of this series, we looked at the heart or the purpose of the conference in This part which

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I identify as part two We're looking at the some of the speakers who are brought in to teach at this conference

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In each episode in this portion of the series I look at their ministries and ask whether they willingly submit to the clear teaching in God's Word about the role of women within the church who

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I look also at who they are associated with Whether they had have discernment themselves in regards to false teaching and false teachers and Then we look at the way these women handle

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Scripture whether they rightly handle God's Word addressing the verses in context drawing out from Scripture the teachings that the

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Author wished to teach we are To do this we are tackling the 2020 conference

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Because of that conference Jenny Allen set it up for each of the speakers to give a message on a specific section of Romans chapter 8 from which

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Jenny promised us Jesus Christ that we would come to know him better through the teachings given by the speakers in this conference and so today we're going to look at session 5 and message given by Ruth Chow Simmons So let's look at Ruth Chow Simmons and her ministry

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Miss Simmons is a best -selling and award -winning author her titles include greatly grace laced beholding and becoming and Foundations her most recent book is titled when strivings cease

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She's mostly known for her company grace laced an art and a lifestyle brand

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I have to say that her work is very beautiful. I also Appreciate the message.

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She's trying to convey in her speeches and books that we strive for Self -improvement without understanding the grace of God in the first session of her

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Bible study when strivings cease She gives the gospel and at least read

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Scripture On our sin and God's great mercy Now I haven't come across any videos of her speaking at churches on Sunday morning or even over Christian conferences for both male and females not as of yet.

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I haven't seen that There are videos. However of her speaking at a conference at Oklahoma Baptist University with a mixed audience

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Now as I come to Scripture, I don't want to add where Scripture does not speak

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So in this case a woman speaking at a university even a Christian University I'm not gonna be so picky about There may be something

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I'm missing and I'm willing to be corrected by Scripture. Of course on the on this point I just haven't seen it or Arrived at that information yet It but it is absolutely clear that when a woman comes into the house of God to preach teach and supposedly give and expound upon the

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Apostles teachings acts 242 and come under the authority of Scripture that the line most definitely

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Must be drawn God is clear that for the gatherings of his people

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They are to devote themselves to the Apostles teaching God has instituted that it be a man to give and hand down those teachings

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Therefore a man is to be preaching. So while I appreciate miss Simmons teachings and her from what

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I can tell submission to God's Word in the area of teaching over men I Do question her discernment?

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She back in February of 2021 appeared on the Jesus calling podcast

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I don't think that necessarily means she supports or endorses the extra biblical revelation

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That's very young had given in her writings and also in this franchise and on the podcast as well

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But it does expose at least that she hasn't really thought about what Jesus calling promotes

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Now if you want more information in regards to the Jesus calling franchise, I did a series on this very popular devotional in Season one of thoroughly equipped we looked over and wrestled with the teachings in her devotional for teens as well as examining the beginnings of the

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Jesus calling book itself from its introduction in the 2004 edition we discussed what she described as her conversion experience as well as looking at the

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Subjective experiences she claimed to have received These episodes are worth checking out if you have questions on what?

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Doctrinal issues as well as what type of Christ is being given in those devotionals

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So like I said, there is a slight question of discernment on Ruth's part

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All right, but let's dive into her message today and Do a sort of critique a review into it for those of you who have been following along I'm going to remind you of the declaration and promise

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Jenny Ellen gave in the 2020 conference introduction We are halfway through the conference.

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This is session five and I think there's a total there's four more sessions to go

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So we should assess whether we have even begun to receive that promise

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Let's start this thing off with one of my favorite chapters in this book called the

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Bible And whether you've known Jesus for a long time or you're just checking him out

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We're not gonna water him down here We're going to Romans 8.

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I don't know that there's a deeper Theological piece of work in the Bible. So we're going here and what you will leave with I believe

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Is more of Jesus, okay so far Jesus has been Conspicuously missing from the messages.

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These teachers have been presenting There has been a lot of talk about of course us what we need to realize such things as our

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Greatest need has been met How we fight the enemy who keeps us from setting our minds on the spirit that we should have the spirit of Christ in us to live

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Supernatural lives and that we need to unwrap our inheritance as adopted children of God so we can

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Accomplish our calling This is a far cry from focusing quote completely and entirely on the person of Jesus these messages have been more focused on us and not him and especially not really even the text of Romans chapter 8

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Messages and teachings like these cater to our pride and sinful nature drawing us to God For what he can give us how these messages make us feel

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Empowered wanting the blessing of God, but not knowing who

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God is who Jesus is or Wanting what the spirit actually, you know really offers because none of this addresses our problem that We love ourselves and not

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God that we love our sin and do not desire to put it to death and because of this we suppress the truth instead of embracing it because really we love the darkness and not the light which

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Exposes our sins. We prefer to hear how God loves us. Just as we are

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Desires to have a relationship with us pursues us wants us to live

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Supernaturally empowered lives to do great things and wants to use us

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To change the world because you know, it gives us a sense of importance Remember Jenny points out that there are women in the audience who are quote

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Just checking Jesus out these women who are slaves to their sin

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Lovers of themselves are given a Jesus who also loves them

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Do who just wants a relationship with them and who wants to empower them to accomplish their dreams?

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Is a Savior who wants them to cherish his spirit that lives inside them who wants to make their life supernatural

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They simply need to open their inheritance and make use of the gifts.

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God gave them If you're new and are curious about Where I'm getting all this you can check out the earlier message

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Reviews I did from this conference and you don't know where I'm getting this information from Because so far that's what we've been presented with Now are the next four sessions?

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Gonna be any different. That's the question. So session five is a message given by Ruth Chow Simons who is to elaborate on Romans 8 24 to 28 now the last message was delivered by Joe Saxton on Romans 8 14 to 17 and You'll notice that several verses are left out.

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And again, I'll mention that this is a conference. It's not a church so I'm not looking for like an in -depth study or teaching verse by verse but these verses are

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Important to the context of the passages and it is the context that helps us understand the verses

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Helps us understand what Paul means in those sentences They are essential to understanding what

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Paul is trying to teach us from Romans chapter 8 So let's read those verses in their context and look at what the

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Holy Spirit wants to teach us through it Remember what we've learned already

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Paul has explained very clearly that every man who is born of Adam is born with a sinful nature

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He is a slave to his flesh and because of this no man can please

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God Meaning that we're all unrighteous and will one day stand before God guilty of transgressing his law

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But there is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus for the law of the

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Spirit of life has set you free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death For God has done what the law weakened by the flesh could not do

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By sending his own son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin He condemned sin in the flesh in order that the righteous requirement of the law

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Might be fulfilled in us who walk not according to the flesh but according to the Spirit And that was

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Romans 8 verses 1 to 4 and because we are dead to sin alive to Christ We are no longer debtors to the flesh

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But instead by the power of the Holy Spirit, we are to put to death the deeds of the flesh

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We put them to death not because we fear the wrath of God like before but now because of Christ we are

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Reconciled to God who is our Heavenly Father now? And he has sent his spirit to testify to our spirit that he is our

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Heavenly Father Making us heirs with Christ provided that like him we suffer with this in mind

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Let's go to the text and start from verse 14 For all who are led by the

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Spirit of God are sons of God For you did not receive the spirit of slavery to fall back into fear

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But you have received the spirit of adoption of sons by whom we cry Abba Father The Spirit himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God and if children then heirs

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Heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ provided we suffer with him in order that we may also be glorified with him

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Now before I continue reading I want to bring to your attention that these next couple of verses are completely

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Kept out of the conference sessions just like verses 12 and 13 were left out of Joe Saxton's message

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Again, this is a conference It's not a church by which the pastor or teachers should go verse by verse to teach and train up their listeners

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But these verses are crucial to the context of what the Holy Spirit is teaching through Paul.

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So let's look at them For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worth comparing with the glory that is to be revealed to us

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For the creation waits with eager longing for the revealing of the sons of God For the creation was subjected to futility not willingly

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But because of him who subjected it in hope that the creation itself

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Will be set free from its bondage to corruption and obtain the freedom of the glory and the children of God For we know that the whole creation has been groaning together in the pains of childbirth until now and not only the creation but we

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Ourselves who have the firstfruits of the spirit grown inwardly as we wait eagerly for adoption as sons the redemption of our bodies

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So God is a good and loving father who has provided everything we need to reconcile us to him gives us all we need to accomplish as well and Will one day deliver us from the corruption that is in this world and in our bodies

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Provided we suffer with Christ By this Paul means the suffering that we all deal with since we live in perishable sinful bodies in a corrupted evil world

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Christ truly God and truly man Subjected himself to the sufferings of this sinful world receiving the wrath of man acts to 22 to 23 and 530 and the wrath of God Isaiah 53 4 to 6 and Romans 5 8 to 9 and though innocent

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Submitted to these sufferings brought on by sin for our salvation We though not sinless like Jesus live in a sinful world and will be subjected to suffering in this sinful world suffering that comes about from our own sin and suffering that comes about from other sin and Suffering from an earth that has been cursed by sin

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But these sufferings are nothing compared to what God has in store for us and we along with creation

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Long to be set free from the suffering and corruption of sin Okay.

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Now in that context, let's read the passage Ruth is supposed to teach on For in this hope we were saved now hope that is seen is not hope for who hopes and what he sees

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But if we hope for what we do not see we wait for it with patience Likewise the

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Spirit helps us in our weakness for we do not know what to pray for as we ought but the

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Spirit Himself Intercedes for us with groans too deep for words and he who searches the hearts

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Knows what is the mind of the Spirit because the Spirit intercedes for the

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Saints according to the will of God And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good for those who are called according to his purpose

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So Paul is telling us that our hope is in the promise of the new heavens

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New earth and new imperishable bodies that God will one day give us.

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This is our great. Hope This is God's great promise. And this is what we wait for with all patience and just like creation groans the

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Spirit within us groans and waits eagerly for this redemption for a

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Sinless body in this hope we were saved. We were saved so that God might glorify

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Himself through the redemption of sinful people who will one day be glorified with Christ We will one day put on the imperishable and we will one day be set free from sin death and the devil in the same way that the

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Spirit groans within us waiting eagerly for our Adoption as sons the redemption of our bodies the

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Spirit also helps us in our weakness see in these Fleshly bodies.

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We do not know what to pray for but the Spirit does and so he intercedes for us

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Christ knowing the mind of God knows the groanings of the Spirit that intercedes for the

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Saints according to the will of God The Spirit within us even prays for the will of God for God Causes all things to work for the good of those who love him and are called according to his purpose

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These are just wonderful Wonderful truths really they are basically proclaiming how

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God the Father God the Son and God the Holy Spirit have accomplished and are

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Accomplishing all God's will in and through us

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All of it is his work all of it done for his glory Even in our weakness ladies when we don't know how to pray or what to pray for it

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The Spirit prays for us and this is why Paul in 2nd Corinthians 12 9 to 10 has no qualms about boasting in his weaknesses

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Even being content with the weaknesses the insults the hardships persecutions and calamities because he rightly understands that God works all these things out for Paul's good and God's glory for when

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Paul is weak then he is strong Why because Christ's grace is sufficient for him

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Christ's power is made perfect in Paul's weakness Paul wants

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Christ to receive all all the glory This is a very different mindset than what gets taught in American Christianity today

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It's a very different mindset than what we are given even in this conference the if gathering

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Will Ruth Chow Simmons talk about this? Hope we have the

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Spirit's intercession and the work of God for our good in all things Well, let's find out

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Ruth Chow Simmons starts her message talking about how she encourages her family to Open up their heart to talking about things and that is done at their house

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Usually during meal prep she says She wants the audience to know that discipleship happens during the day -to -day activities with that in mind

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She offers an invitation to come into her studio while she works on a painting

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Now on the stage is a table with paint brushes paint sets and a paint canvas

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And it's in this setting that she invites us to sit and have a chat

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As she sets up her station and begins to paint she tells the audience that she quote -unquote

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Sees them that she understands that many of them are dealing with hard times in their lives

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This is a starting point of her message, let's get honest I Want to say that I see you

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It's possible that well, yeah, I'm wearing my progressives because I'm in my 40s and I really can't see you if I don't wear this

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Guys, it's hard getting older. You know, I see you. I do see you you are tuning in here this weekend

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And Showing up in your places, but likely going through potentially a dark time a difficult season of your life hardship that you did not expect

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You have been brought into things that are making you question your calling you are likely

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Wondering am I really even called because what is called look like? What does it look like to serve the

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Lord and quite honestly right now? It looks like I'm changing diapers and I'm Talking to my neighbor.

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I'm taking dinner over to someone and I'm not doing great big things for the Lord Is that how do

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I show up to my calling? Is this how the Lord is going to use me and some of you may be coming really on a high and you've had a

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Wonderful start to your ear and there's been some serious big wins for you. And it's likely that If you're like me sometimes when things are going really well

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You actually have that fear of losing it all and you think oh, what if I can't maintain? What if I can't strive hard enough and you feel silly even saying it

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But you know that there's a part of you that says Oh Lord Like do I have what it takes for what you've called me to oh

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She is worried about how we might feel about our calling. This is the problem

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She wants to help us with she wants to teach us something that will help us when we are going through Something that makes us question our calling or doubt the strength we have to achieve it

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Is that the same motivation Paul has in writing this portion of Romans 8?

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This is right at the beginning of her message. So I'm wondering how that ties into the message of Romans 8 24 to 27

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What might a special calling or purpose have to do with the hope that we have in the promises given by God?

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To deliver us from sin and corruption and the promise to help us in our weakness and work all things out for our good

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But let's see where she goes with this and if you were showing up at my house today I tell you to go pour up a cup of coffee

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Make some hot tea I would tell you to come and talk about all those things and you know when you finally took a breath and you know because we all kind of monologue for a while and when you come up for breath and you are finally like So, I don't know.

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I mean, what should I be doing? Should I be doing something different? Should I why this tension of I know where I'm supposed to be going but I can't

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I don't know how to weather the hardship Of where I am right now the not becoming as quickly as I'd like to become who

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God's made me to be Okay So she's talking about feeling lost at times when we feel like we are not being

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Who God called us to be or not doing what we think God called us to do

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Now for a Christian who understands their sin nature and wrestles with their flesh.

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There is Definitely a feeling of frustration and eager desire to be set free

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Knowing that God has called us to be like Christ, but not feeling like we're making much progress in that area

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And that is really what Paul's talking about here the spirit within us Growns to be set free from the incorruptible the perishable

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That is that what Ruth is talking about here. Now. Here's a note I want to bring to your attention before we proceed with her message this portion of Romans is dealing with eternal and spiritual things

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Longing for something and a hope for something that is not temporal something that is not of this world

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Purpose -driven theology makes God's promises very temporal and of this world

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It's about God's work through you and I to bring change to this world heaven hell and eternity

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Will be less addressed in their messages because of this but Paul's teachings here are

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Centered on eternity our great hope the end result of our salvation our glorification

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If you know me and this podcast you probably know that her intro comments here are extremely frustrating to me especially talking about such things as serving neighbors and changing diapers as Interruptions to the real service for God This is the type of teaching

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I fell for and it brought me at its worst to revile These works for my family and at its best

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To reduce them down to proving to God that I can be faithful and the small things so that he can trust me with the

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Great things that special Special purpose he has for me that will help him change the world

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That was an immense burden. Yeah, I was a deceived woman

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Weighed down with sins 2nd Timothy 3 6 and bewitched by false teachings

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Galatians 3 1 now, miss Chow Simmons sympathizes with us and then tells

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Us to turn to Romans 8 and proceeds to read the text. I'm going to let her read and get right into our point

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Turn to Romans 8 verses 24 through 28 For in this hope we were saved now hope that is seen is not hope for who hopes for what he sees

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But if we hope for what we do not see we wait for it with patience Likewise the

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Spirit helps us in our weakness for we do not know what to pray for as we ought but the

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Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words and He who searches hearts knows what is in the mind of the

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Spirit because the Spirit intercedes for the Saints according to the will of God and We know that for those who love

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God all things work together for good for those who are called according to his purpose and so Because we are short on time and this is gonna be a quick coffee date friends.

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I'm gonna just cut to the chase If you were sitting at my house, I would probably because of the way

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I am I would probably just look you in the eye and just tell you straight up What's made a difference in my life?

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And the first thing I would tell you is If You are measuring up whether you have enough resources for what

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God's called you to remember God's calling isn't just on stage with a microphone God's calling could be in your season right now being faithful with actually staying on top of the laundry

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Loving your husband maybe ministering to your college dorm neighbor and talking to that friend

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Wherever God's called you don't assume that it's on the other side of the the world.

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It might be right next door But if you are counting up and measuring what you can see of your abilities

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You're not hoping in Christ you're hoping in yourself Now I want to show you something that speakers or teachers

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Commonly do that twist scripture and Ruth has done just that here. She starts her message

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Setting us up with a topic the topic or problem. She wants to address in this message it's the topic of feeling lost when we think we're not accomplishing

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God's calling for our life and usually Speakers bring up the topic first and want to teach the passage or verse that they bring up Will help us in some way solve or address that problem

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This tends to place into a text a teaching that is not found in the text when we read it in context

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And that is exactly what is going on here. Ruth wants to talk about hope

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Paul too wants to talk about hope But what that hope is placed in the object of the hope in the text or the object of hope in Bruce message are two entirely different things

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Paul wants to remind us of our hope in an incorruptible world free of sin death and the devil and Ruth wants to remind us of Hope in God's calling for our lives and the resources he will provide to accomplish it

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Paul wants to point you to eternity Ruth points you to this world

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Paul wants you to hope in the promises that God will make things right while Ruth Wants you to hope and what

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God gives you to make things right and in this twist She wants to warn us not to count up our resources because if we're doing that we are not counting on Christ Now if she's talking about counting up resources that we think would earn us salvation like Paul addresses in Like Paul had addressed in the earlier chapters of Romans.

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She would have a point But she is talking about accomplishing our calling That's the way she set the message up to not count up our resources what we have been given what our current

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Situation looks like and not to judge by these what God's calling might be this

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Undermines the sufficiency of scripture to instruct us in our calling and did you notice that the situations she states?

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What could be what God has for us at a time of feeling loss? Listen to this part of the clip again

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As calling could be in your season right now being faithful with actually staying on top of the laundry

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Loving your husband maybe ministering to your college dorm neighbor and talking to that friend

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Wherever God's called you don't assume that it's on the other side of the the world.

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It might be right next door See, I don't think she realizes it but she has just questioned

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God's Word and its authority in our lives as women God is not a god of confusion

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God has laid for us very clearly in scripture what he wants his women to do This type of talk is the fruit of not believing that scripture is sufficient to teach

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Rebuke, correct and train us in righteousness So that we may be thoroughly equipped for every good work 2nd

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Timothy 3 16 to 17 it I mean scripture Teaches us what

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God calls us to do if you ever feel lost in regards to what you think God is calling you to do

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Go to scripture. Let's look at just a few passages that talk about what

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God wants of us First God calls us to be saved from the wrath to come and trust in Christ This is the calling of God through the gospel

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Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins and You have received the gift of the

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Holy Spirit Acts 2 38 Then because we are forgiven we are called to Present your bodies as a living sacrifice

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Holy and acceptable to God which is your spiritual worship Do not be conformed to this world

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But be transformed by the renewal of your mind that by testing you may discern What is the will of God what is good and acceptable and perfect Romans 12 1 to 2?

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First Thessalonians 4 1 to 12 states finally then brothers We ask and urge you in the

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Lord Jesus That as you receive from us how you ought to walk and to please God Just as you are doing that you do so more and more for you

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What instructions we gave you through the Lord Jesus for this is the will of God your sanctification that you abstain from Sexual immorality that each one of you know how to control his own body in holiness and honor

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Not in the passion of lusts like the Gentiles who do not know God that no one transgress and wrong his brother in this matter because the

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Lord is a Avenger and all these things as we told you beforehand and solemnly warned you for God is not called us for impurity

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But in holiness Therefore whoever disregards this disregards not man, but God who gives his

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Holy Spirit to you Now concerning brotherly love you have no need for anyone to write to you for you yourselves have been taught by God to love one

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Another for that indeed is what you are doing to all the brothers throughout,

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Macedonia But we urge you brothers to do this more and more and to inspire

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To live quietly and to mind your own affairs and to work with your hands as we instructed you so that you may walk

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Properly before outsiders and be dependent on no one So there are more narrow Instructions given to women in scripture that call us to submit to our own husbands as to the

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Lord For the husband is the head of wife even as Christ is the head of the church his body and is himself its

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Savior Now as the church submits to Christ so also wives should submit in everything to their husbands

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Ephesians 5 22 to 23 and That we are to train or be trained up to Love their husbands and children to be self -controlled pure Working at home kind and submissive to our own husbands that the

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Word of God may not be reviled Titus 2 4 to 5 The last scripture passage

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I want to look at in regards to God's will for us is the following passages from Romans itself

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That will not even be mentioned in this conference and that are the verses that come directly

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After the passage that Ruth is to teach on verses 29 and 30 for those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his son in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers and Those whom he predestined he also called and those whom he called he also

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Justified and those whom he justified he also glorified This is the consummation of God's plan for our lives that because God foreknew us

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He predestined that we be conformed to the image of his son that we be

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Christ's Disciples having been baptized in the name of the Father Son and Holy Spirit and learned to do all that he has commanded us

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On this side of eternity, we're given the fruit of our justification which is our sanctification and when

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Jesus returns We receive the outcome of our salvation eternal life

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Romans 6 22 Notice the lack of talk regarding some specific calling one that needs supernatural power to be accomplished and said

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Scripture speaks the great Supernatural power that we are given to merely love

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God and love neighbor because of our faith in Jesus Christ this supernatural power

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Looks weak and simple to the world It looks like one serving and loving another by making sure the laundry gets done changing a dirty diaper disciplining our children

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Loving serving and teaching them It looks like submitting to our husband's instructions when we think they've got it wrong

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It looks like making a meal of oodles and noodles and praising God that he has answered prayer to give you your daily bread

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It's invisible to the human eye when one does all things for the glory of God Obeying the first second and third commandment

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When and if this is done in our frail sinful flesh it is done in the will of God because of Christ and with the awesome and Mighty mighty power of the

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Holy Spirit. It is not that quote. It could be what God wants in quote

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This is what he predestined for you the beginnings of being conformed to the image of his son that you should walk in And his word scripture equips you for that very thing

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Therefore there is no if in some of these things she mentioned regarding our purpose.

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Did God give you a husband? Then your purpose is to be his help me and submit to his leadership

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Did God give you children? Then your calling or purpose is to be a godly influence in their lives and raise them up in the nurture and admonition of the

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Lord Did God place you at a university then your calling is to study well and be a salt and light in that University God places you in areas of this world to put to death the deeds of your flesh and walk in the

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Spirit and yes Giving the gospel in any area of life is part of that Going back to our message.

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She urges us to look at our trail of thoughts. Look at fears and lies

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Look at our social feeds to identify what we might be putting our hope in instead of Christ Paul just spent all this time the first seven chapters in Romans telling us the bad news that we were dead in our trespasses and the

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Good news that we are alive in Christ through faith and now he's declaring hope hope is not a feel -good empty platitude, but a confident perseverance toward the future based on a

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Certainty of fulfillment and that fulfillment we have hope because we have

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Jesus He is the certainty and the fulfillment. And so if you're sitting there

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First and foremost, I just want to say we all do it. But if you are Taking notes on what you have and what you don't have if you had more

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I hate to say it But you know We all struggle sometimes thinking if I had more followers if I had more reach if I had more

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Resources finances if I had a supportive husband, whatever it is if I had child care

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Those are all seen and obvious things But just like I said last night you want your life to not make sense to the natural world

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It has to make sense of a supernatural world because that's when we hope in the unseen and in Christ You weren't saved

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Well, you weren't saved so that you could then run on your own. I think so many times we do that We kind of say to ourselves

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Well, he saved me and now I'm gonna show him how great I can Earn it back and make sure he knows that I really deserve that salvation

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No, you were saved to depend on him every second of every day Because in Christ more than you ask or imagine was delivered to you

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So why would you be looking for what is seen and understood with your eyes? You can't even imagine what is done through Jesus think how that would transform your life if you would focus

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Now I appreciate what she's saying about hoping in Christ This is what

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Romans 8 is all about and I'm all for focusing on Christ Honestly, that's why

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I do this podcast I agree that if we know nothing but Christ and him crucified we would have the best

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Knowledge and be able to walk and conform ourselves to him In fact, feel free to go back and listen to the episode

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I did about discerning female teachers and looking at who and what they talk mostly about And in that episode

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I read George Whitfield's commentary on 1st Corinthians 2 to his

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Commentary beautifully lays out why we should know nothing else But of course,

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I do not agree with what she said about Beth Moore's message and how she taught that a spirit -filled life

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It's a life that looks supernatural You can see my review of that message on this channel, but let's address what she said about hope so hope is quote a confident perseverance towards the future based on a certainty of Fulfillment in that fulfillment.

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We have hope because we have Jesus Yes, this is true. Our Certainty of fulfillment is because of Jesus But in this text, our hope is not grounded in the fulfillment of whatever we want it to be

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It's actually in something specific in this chapter The promise of making all things right upon his return

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That is why Paul says that we on this side of eternity will suffer with Christ But that this suffering is not worth comparing with the glory to be revealed in us when we enter eternity

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Hope in this context is on something very specific to encourage us in our times of suffering in this context our hope or Confident perseverance towards the future in this case towards a new

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Uncorrupted heavens earth and imperishable body is based on God Who promised it

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Isaiah 65 17 and 19 2nd Peter 3 13 Revelation 21 1 it's on Christ who is the firstborn being the first to be raised from the dead

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Colossians 1 18 and On the Holy Spirit who raised him

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Romans 8 11 So our confidence is in God Jesus and the Holy Spirit Not in whether we are accomplishing our purpose or fulfilling a calling

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She then goes on to talk about how we can become impatient with results not seeing, you know the results of our labor but we are to wait with patience when we hope in the

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Unseen because patience is the perspective of one who knows that she is the created not the

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Creator Sometimes we're impatient with the results with fruit for with the visible evidence of the efforts we've made and Paul tells us that we wait with patience when we hope in the unseen because patience is the perspective of one who knows that she's

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The created not the Creator. Have you ever thought of that? Patience is actually a posture of submission.

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It's a posture of submission awaiting God's way. Hey, thank you You're the best Appreciate it

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Awaiting God's time God's provision only the proud demand their own way

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So when you wait with patience It's because that is a posture that you take and know

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He gets to call the shots on those things That patience is a posture of submission

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Waiting for God's way not ours Now this is true in General but in regards to this passage we are waiting patiently for something specific not for results of our labor or The results of accomplishing our calling because remember this is the problem.

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She was wanting to help us with This was the foundation that she laid she has made

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Statements Regarding hope in Jesus then flips back and forth to talk about being impatient for the results of our labor

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But in the context of Romans We are waiting patiently for what God has promised the results of our salvation

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That all things be made new and incorruptible without sin And we greatly long for this and wait with patience because we suffer in this evil world

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That is what Paul is explaining here purpose -driven theology Twisting passages about God's work to be more about our work

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She makes it about being patient and seeing the results of our labor when we in the spirit according to this text are

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Patiently waiting for the promises of God and salvation which are all his work

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Miss Chau Simmons then relays how our weaknesses can put us in the perfect posture to know the

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Spirit's help secondly Paul talks about the

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Spirit helping us in our weakness if you feel weak today If you feel weak you're in the very posture designed for you to know the

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Spirit's help Think about Mary sitting at the feet of Jesus. That's a posture Isaiah saying send me here

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I am send me if you think of Abraham with his hand lifted high with a knife in his hand

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That was a posture of submission like whatever it takes Lord. You get to decide Or it could look like Laying in a hotel bed the night before you have to do something really scary on stage that you don't want to do

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And let's just admit that how much we love having our own beds to amen Lord having a hotel bed to yourself And I don't know about you

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But I do the diagonal thing like I sprawl out like diagonals of diagonal because nobody's here

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You know I can like and in the middle of the night. I just said Lord. I don't want to do this I don't want to I don't want to make a fool of myself

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Aren't we all like that about doing what the Lord's asked us to do don't want to be foolish I don't want to not do it like perfectly and So my posture in the middle of the night was that I actually just laid out my hands because you know the whole bed was mine to take up So posture may look like different things, but it's always about submitting

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The Spirit helps us in our weakness well that tells me that Being weak is a good place to be if you want the

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Spirit's help right Paul says the Spirit helps us in our weakness it means

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Wow Being weak is the very place He needs us to be so that the Spirit can do exactly what he was

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Intended to do to be your helper be the presence of God in your life transforming you making you the reality of heaven in you

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I Absolutely agree that the Spirit helps us when we are weak in all sorts of ways Even in the way she describes here and that weakness puts us in a posture for the

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Spirit to intercede but again Paul is more specific here Weakness can be centered on many things

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I can be weak physically and barely lift a 10 -pound bag of rice Can be weak in speaking as Paul described the way he spoke before the

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Corinthians in 1st Corinthians 2 3 to 5 So dispense so depending on the context we need to see what

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Paul means by weakness and what ways are we? weaker Bible ref comm

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Has a commentary on this passage stating Paul is acknowledging here that even as Christians we remain weak in and ourselves

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Physically, we remain creatures in fragile bodies with sometimes baffling emotions spiritually, we can become weak in our faith and or in our resistance to sinful desires as Paul will begin to make clear.

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However, God's Spirit with us makes all the difference He continually helps us in and even through our weakness.

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He steps in he helps with the burden More specifically Paul writes that we are so weak that at times we do not know what to pray for We have been given access in prayer to our

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Father God We feel the need the longing for him But what do we ask for the

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Spirit steps in and carries those unsaid groanings? Through those thoughts and feelings we simply cannot express in human words to God The weakness in this passage is in connection to our flesh our bodies affected and directed by sin

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Now it's correct to say that we are weak and being able to obey God perfectly That's exactly what

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Paul has been talking about in all eight chapters of Romans And yes, the

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Spirit is our helper to do things. We feel are tough to do or go through Fighting our flesh in our vocations is extremely tough

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But is this what Ruth is talking about? weakness in doing the will of God has laid out for us in Scripture or Weakness in accomplishing some extra biblical instruction that receives subjectively something we feel

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God has called us to do something extra special She then goes into how

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Paul mentioned that the Spirit prays for us in our weakness Relaying how at times we may be just too sad to speak or like her have too much to say that when rambles on During prayer and she reminds us of this

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Paul says we do not know what to pray for as we ought and you know, I it's a right

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Understanding of the text, but I've always thought about that It's so true that you can be so sad that you don't have words and some of us are in that place today

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Like you could actually be so sad that you struggle to actually Know the words to say but in my case

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Can I just be honest and say that sometimes it means that I have too much to say and I don't pray what

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I ought Because I'm so busy talking. I'm running my mouth all the time So I don't know who that's for today

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And I don't know like how many of I'm just saying it like, you know If if you want to come over I get to it's my house.

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I get to say what I want to say, but but I'm just telling you that That sometimes yes when you're sad and it's hard and you literally have nothing to say and it's heartbreak.

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That's unbreak Unspeakable. Yeah, the Spirit groans and pleads for you and he is there to fill in But even when you run your mouth and you struggle to shut up and listen to the

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Lord He still has your back because in Christ he is Pleading for us. He's fighting for us.

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He's defending us and for those of us in Christ he is in control and sovereign and Pleading for us in accordance with the will of God.

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I am very pleased that she would state this Yes, and amen. She proclaims that these are sweet words

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These are sweet words not scary words to those who trust Christ Have you thought of it that way that according to the will of God according to his purpose?

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They're sweet words And of course, we love the final verse of this section and we know that for those who love

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God all things work together For good for those who are called according to his purpose our hope in the midst of hardship.

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Is that in Christ? Guys, this is the thing that changes everything for me that in Christ Jesus doesn't just work things out for our good

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Which we love he is our good He is our good and I think we forget all the time that he's not there just to make our lives better he is

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Our best he is the absolute best thing we could have so number three

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Remember, he'll never have more or better good than the amazing grace of redemption in Christ And that's what we're doing this whole weekend

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Through Romans 8 is the reminder that don't be distracted. Don't be so Mesmerized by all that's out there

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Asking for your attention saying this is what life is about Can we encourage you that Paul spent all these chapters to make sure we know as clear as day

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That we had we have nothing in ourselves to save us and that every bit of our

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Redemption and our salvation is a gift and a grace from God and the only way we can access it is through faith and submission

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And so then how do you hope in hardship is when you cling to your true treasure? That's Christ himself.

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Not that he just works together works all things together for good, but that he is actually you're very good

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Yes for those who are in Christ Jesus and know that the Father works all things out for his glory and our good

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They are very very sweet words and Christ is really our good

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God is our prize and Yes, we shouldn't be distracted by other things

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Life is about being with God but my heart is saddest and for this reason those who are in the audience or listening to this conference online those who are just Checking Jesus out or have been given a false gospel

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They will not know the outcome of the ultimate good that God does in our lives that outcome being eternal life but instead because Their faith is placed in things such as their purpose other than Christ and his sacrifice for their sins

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They are left in their sins and the wrath of God remains on them John 3 36

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Now she states that by this conference and going through Romans 8 they all

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They are reminding us of the redemption we have in Jesus But there has been no talk on what that redemption entails

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The audience who are now in the fifth session still have not heard the good news

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Instead we've heard that God has taken care of our greatest need but no talk of how we're just informed that God pursued us

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We've heard that to set our minds on the spirit We have to fight the devil who comes at us with negative thoughts

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We've heard that we need to cherish the spirit that lives within us.

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So we would live, you know supernatural lives We've heard that we've been adopted as sons of God and as children.

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We should not be slaves to our fears Therefore opening up God's gifts He has given us so we can walk in our inheritance and now we are being told that we're not to count on ourselves

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Basically, but trust in Christ and the Holy Spirit to help us accomplish our calling even when we feel lost on the way

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So what might be the outcome of this type of teaching on one who hasn't heard and trusted the gospel?

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Perhaps they thought like this God Really must love me. He pursues me and wants my good.

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I want my good too God must want me to accomplish such -and -such. I don't need to feel condemned

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I don't need to live under shame and guilt or believe those negative thoughts.

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I Just need to fight the negative thoughts understand that the Spirit of God dwells within me that God has given me an

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Inheritance gifts that help me accomplish my purpose and help me live a supernatural life

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And he's promised to empower me to accomplish that if I don't count my resources, but trust in Christ If I just trust in Christ, he will make my dreams successful.

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Yeah Well, I want to accomplish my purpose. I want to be successful live a happy fulfilled life

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So I'll trust that Jesus will help me do that The emphasis and all the messages so far

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I've had a focus on what God will do for you in this life With mentions and a nod or two to what

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Christ has done But what should be the focus? What Christ has done so that we may receive what

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God will do in the future our faith is placed on the work done by Christ the

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Son of God who died and rose again to pay the penalty for our sins and gives Eternal life to all who trust in him and him alone for it yet So many who receive these types of messages believe that they are right with God Because they have faith in God and will do what they can to accomplish his will

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Are you really hearing about the prize Jesus Christ in between points?

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Miss Chau Simmons has pointed out that she has mistakenly forgotten a paper towel to dry her paintbrush on Or that she has over mixed her paint with paint thinner making the paint hard to dry

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And it's now at this point that she presents the painting exclaiming that it didn't work out like she planned

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Her point being that our lives can look like that too. Yeah, God can use them to do his work

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I would agree with that scripture continually shows us how God uses sinful men to do his work and that God even uses persecutions tribulations suffering and death to accomplish his good

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While her situation experience on the stage and lack of producing and approved painting is cute

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It really is not needed She could have gone into God's Word to make that claim as quote one in progress person to another

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She appeals to us to run to the truth But from one in progress person to another

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I want to encourage you to run to the truth run to it every day Don't just do it one time and think you're good.

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Don't just think I read that verse I don't know what it's about read it again Let somebody else read it to you think on it meditate on it

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Go back to those familiar passages your protection is the gospel The gospel is the truth that you must live in day by day if you

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If you feel weak That's the perfect posture and perfect place for the Spirit to remind you of the truth of the gospel day the truth of how you've

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Been saved run to him Go back to verse 24 for in this hope you were saved you were rescued by hope to hope and You were saved to rejoice in your weakness.

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You were plucked out of a seek good for yourself life To a life that loves the good that Jesus is above all else

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But what is the truth that Paul is talking about in Romans? Is it that God loves us so pursues us and wants to help us accomplish our purpose?

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We simply need to remain faithful even when life doesn't look like we are achieving a calling like we've been told at this conference

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Or is it that we are sinners who are destined for hell yet? God so loved us that he sent his son to obey the law perfectly for us and take our punishment upon himself

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Die and rise again so that we may be reconciled to God Which of these should we run to let's listen to the last part of her message

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So friends, I don't know where this hits you today and I don't know what you're up against but I do know

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That what Paul is describing what he's saying What's burdening on his heart is the reminder that we know where we're going and we know what sustains us

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But you've got to remember day by day to return back to the truth He spent seven chapters telling us about how we got to this point

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So now hope in Christ and keep repeating that truth back to yourself Next time let's finish this painting together.

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But this is what I would tell you today because If there's nothing else to communicate, I would just say friends

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You are exactly where you need to be in the very callings God has given you right now

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Don't look about don't look at where you will be ten years from now or five months from now be faithful right where you are

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Right now because the hope of Christ is transforming you right where you are

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Yes, Paul did spend seven chapters explaining the truth and how we can be saved from the wrath to come

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So why hasn't any one of these speakers even touched upon the how?

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If this truth is so vital Why has it not been clearly taught?

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Especially to those in the audience who are just checking Jesus out But instead of giving us that truth that we must run to in times of feeling loss

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She wants to encourage us to not look to the future To simply be faithful right where we are and I get that sentiment, but I see two problems with this

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One are we told not to focus on the future?

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Well, yes and no Depending on which future we are not to focus on the future of this age

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But yes, we are urged to focus on the future of the age to come

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So in this passage in Romans Paul is bringing to our attention This future because it's our great.

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Hope To one of the things we hope for is an into the struggle of being faithful Many a man claimed to have unfailing love but a faithful man who can find

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Proverbs 26 Why is it hard to find a faithful man? Because being faithful means trusting that God's Word is true therefore the trust we have in God's Word Causes us to put our flesh to death

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Putting to death our flesh is hard to do Because of this we begin to see in our age and in our and in wisdom just how unfaithful we really are

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So that's why over and over again scripture points to God as being the faithful one

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Deuteronomy 7 9 Lamentations 3 22 to 23 Psalm 145 17 1st

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Corinthians 10 13 1st Thessalonians 5 24 2nd Thessalonians 3 3 among many many other verses

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We are called to hold on to the confession of our hope that Jesus is our

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High Priest who has presented the ultimate sacrifice that cleanses from our sins once for all to Hold on to this confession without wavering for he that is

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God who promised is Faithful Hebrews 10 23. I want to be faithful in all that I do and with all that God has given me

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But ultimately I see myself failing over and over again yet I hold on to the confession and as I do

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I trust in God to deliver his promises Because he is faithful There has been only one faithful man the

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God man Jesus Christ We are all faithful in him and are empowered by the Holy Spirit to produce the fruit of faithfulness

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But only if we have the Spirit and we only know we have the

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Spirit if we are trusting believing in Christ and his work so in conclusion

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Did Ruth handle the text correctly is the hope that Paul wants us to have?

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In regards to our calling and purpose or in regards to the promised new heavens earth and our glorified bodies

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It's a weakness in the context of Romans 8 about our inability or ability to carry out our callings or Is it in regards to accomplishing the will of God which is to be conformed to the image of his

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Son? Does this passage tell us to not count our resources? By hoping

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Christ to work through our purpose and be faithful right where we are or does it tell us to trust

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God because He is faithful. He grants us faith helps us put to death the

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Flesh and walk in the spirit and will one day give us a new body in a new earth without sin death and the devil

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He who for knew us Predestined us and those he Predestined he also called and those whom he called he also justified and those whom he justified he also glorified

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Romans 8 29 and 30 and Ladies that is what I pray you are doing trusting in his work what he has done and will do for you

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I pray that you have heard through these last couple of episodes and our Exposition so far through this chapter of Romans 8 that good news the truth the gospel over and over again and grasp the hope that we have for one day seeing our

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Savior face to face and Being set free from the corruption that is in this world and in our bodies for God will do it

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Because God is faithful Because of this you are now free to serve and love your family.

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