Are Women More Easily Deceived Than Men?

Yeah, I I would assume most people probably hear what you're saying as women are are more stupider

than men, right?

Yes, what is that like that little kid, you know.

Saying that that people would always saying like boys go to Jupiter to get more stupider.

Is that basically what you're saying?

But instead of boys this girls.

All

right, Tim.

The question for today's episode is are women more easily deceived than men.

Yeah, this is a Twitter conversation that I had with someone who is basically saying that women are not prone to deception more

more deception than men period.

And.

The problem though is that as you read through the Bible one of the things you're gonna realize is that in first Timothy 2

Paul essentially is mentioning the fact that women are not to teach or exercise authority over men.

But to remain quiet quiet.

And he gives two reasons for this.

So the first reason he says is for Adam was for him first.

And then he says and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor.

Transgressor.

So the issue is that Paul seems to be grind grounding the fact that women are not allowed to be teaching teachers.

In.

The very nature of Eve herself in that Eve was given over to deception in that moment.

And so this is a reason given why women are not to be teachers or exercise authority over men.

So it seems like The Bible at this point is saying yes women are more prone to deception than men.

Despite the fact that this is currently, you know scandalous to the minds of so many people.

Yeah, I I would assume most people probably hear what you're saying as women are are more stupider

than men, right?

Yes.

Women what is that like that little kid, you know.

Saying that that people would always saying like boys go to Jupiter to get more stupider.

Is that basically what you're saying?

But instead of boys this girls.

Yeah, well, you know the the idea of being more prone to deception really doesn't have anything to do with intellectual ability.

And this is some of the comments that people made along these lines when they having a difficult time trying to separate these two

concepts.

Meaning like if you say that Eve by, you know nature of her ontology.

Being a woman like there's something about her makeup that is fundamentally more prone to deception.

So so much so that you know Paul doesn't permit a woman to teach her exercises already over men meaning she's not

made for it meaning She has certain inbuilt kinds of limitations or temptations in there.

In the minds of many people they go exactly where you are saying they go that they understand that to be some sort of

slight On like women's intelligence, but that that really like these two concepts are very different concepts

and what I mean is that You know in in the middle of the you know pandemic or

whatever you want to call it.

There there's a great many intelligent people who made like choices that

weren't Very wise in those moments.

So it didn't it didn't reduce to like it wasn't just about intelligence in the role.

It wasn't just about like raw like facts cold hard facts and logic.

There's a lot of other things that seem to govern people.

Besides just the facts of the matter or how well you'll be able to score on a standardized test or something along those

lines.

And so, you know all the all the data out there shows that women and men are equal in terms of

intelligence.

It just is funneled out into different areas of interest and different kinds of ability.

So men are generally better at math and women are generally better and you know verbal kind of areas.

Which is I mean no shock.

I mean, you know women typically have you know A lot more words than men have in general and you

know, you know, you think about like something like chess.

Chess all the chess masters are men.

With you know, almost no exceptions.

There's one lady who maybe can compete but other than that.

She's not competing at the top level.

It's just like the way it works is that intelligence is the same?

It's just found out in different ways, but then not everything is a moral problem.

So, you know the the issue is that men and women are two different types of creation

man is a different type of creation than woman and You know because of the fact that woman is a weaker vessel.

Like like some of this is related to just her makeup, but then some of its related to just her like

In terms of her emotional makeup and some of us related to her physical makeup.

So because women are you know smaller than men physically and men are significantly

stronger than women.

You know part of what that means is that Experience in life as a woman is very different

than experience in life as a man as a man I've never like literally never been afraid of being raped

for example in my entire life.

Yeah, like that's just I've never had that fear.

But then this is a frequent and recurring You know element of life for women

is something that is running around in their background of their mind.

You know pretty regularly as you talk to women.

This is something that they're concerned about and there's something they're planning against.

And so women in general because of their smaller size.

They are more fearful than men.

Thanks.

So they're more fearful than men like in terms of Like as a brute reality of

being the weaker vessel living in a falling world despite all the Marvel movies that exist in the world but then

Like if you like they're also more prone to worry.

They're more prone to anxiety.

They're more prone to depression so they're more prone to worry anxiety depression and fears and

Like all of that factors into this idea of deception in general.

Meaning like, you know If you're undergoing a massive worldwide events like this Plandemic and all that

there are many people who respond to that in a fearful way.

And so women typically respond to the same situations as men.

Prioritizing different concerns so a woman is going to prioritize the concern of safety much more than a man is going to

prioritize those certain concerns and.

Like.

That's a feature like that's a design feature that God has built into the system.

Which may mean that they you know have more tendencies to be helicopter moms and men are right?

Yeah.

So they may fall like they may like, you know on a scale they may be more prone to certain

temptations like fear and worry and and which will lead them to Latch on to certain unrealistic

solutions or over -the -top kind of solutions kind of like we've seen in the pandemic.

Like that doesn't like that's that's um.

That's just an obvious reality that everyone knows about that.

No one's allowed to talk about but we all Know.

I mean if you're married even just a few months You'll realize that your wife is definitely prone to be much more fearful than

you are.

Just look at YouTube videos of men on the internet and they're constantly doing stupid and crazy things and the reason why is

because they've been given an overabundance of courage and.

Women have been given an overabundance of caution.

Yeah, you know, there's actually a whole subreddit on on reddit.

That's just called hold my beer.

Right, and it's all men doing idiotic things that are hilarious to watch but right they

look pretty.

Yeah.

Yeah, or the Florida man stuff, right?

Yeah, man memes.

Hey, but that's all just like abundance of courage, you know, and so then.

And so but what I mean is like there's certain temptations that come from those kind of things.

You know, I like the godliest women.

I know in my life.

They're the godliest women.

I know like they really still don't have like a stomach for

Like doing church discipline or having hard conversations with people or Rolling their sleeves up and doing

these messy kind of things and you know, like the godliest woman on life.

They almost will unfailingly think the best about people in a way that you can admire.

But then you can say hey, that's kind of naive, right?

Yeah, and and the reason why is because they're governed by compassion much more than men.

So we're different like that's the point now if you have a person who's prone like more governed towards fear caution

safety.

Compassion you put all that together and that leads to you know, maybe.

Temptations to be naive in certain ways.

That you see I just read that watch the news.

You'll see like That women are prone to certain deceptions along those lines where they really do think

that if you know.

We would all just sat down and had a nice conversation with Hitler.

We could have sorted it out without all the bombs because he's just a real nice guy and you know and It seems to

you know, say some nice things and all that and there is a kind of naivety that can come from.

You know unfailingly thinking the best about people, you know.

You you said you mentioned that example and I immediately thought of.

I haven't thought about this and since I first saw it but.

There was a video that came out right as the you know Russia and Ukraine stuff

was really ramping up.

And it was this some girl.

I don't I don't know who she was.

She was just some girl from online.

Who?

Basically, she she recorded herself.

Reciting I guess like a poem she had written.

Basically saying hey if I had if I had been Putin's mom.

None of this would be happening because I would have shown you the love that you needed or whatever and.

Everyone everyone I mean everyone laid into her over that over how naive

it sounded.

But then it's just proving your point, right?

It is.

Yeah, it is proving my point and everyone knows it and I mean this is why you know Fathers have a role to protect their daughters

from all these scoundrel men and it's like how many how many women have like in tears?

You know after the relation and I'm not trying I'm not laughing at this.

But I mean after the relationship is over and she's like, hey, you know, I I thought he loved me you know, how many times have women

been taken, you know by a man and Deceived by a man right as a man like he

said, he loved me.

He said he cared about me you know, he listened he really listened to me and whatever else and and it's just like, you know,

like.

Like that compassion that's great, you know that like women are much more compassionate than men.

But that can lead them to just not at times.

See the obvious that there are evil people in the world and you can't just write a poem and you know.

Convinced I really need to.

I need to link that.

And in all the police brutality kind of discussions I mean like like there are women who've just never seen

terrifying man strength.

Mm -hmm.

And they think that you can just have a cup of coffee and sort it all out and say nice things and used to De -escalation techniques

and it's just like there are types of deception that come from having a more compassionate tender

refined nature that really doesn't know anything about aggression, you know male aggression like and

male stubbornness and you know, and just unfailingly thinks the best about people.

And I just you know, I I I Can't tell you how many times in my life I've had these kind of

discussions with like women in particular where you have like a effeminate man who's flagging being a

homosexual or whatever and you know unfailingly it's like it's like he's gay, you know, it's like You don't know that right?

It's like well.

He's telling you is right and then you know, then months later.

He comes out and they're they're shocked about it.

It's like how could you be shocked about this?

Yeah.

He.

Like he literally is talking like a woman walking like a woman, you know.

So like the issue though is like none of this is about intelligence.

You know, there's none we're not talking about intelligence.

What we're talking about is we're talking about a sensitive compassionate nature that Often is overly

cautious and prone to fear that can lead to some sort of like built -in Naivety.

Now when you say that like what people don't have a category for is a it's like an all -or -nothing proposition in

their mind.

Then this is what's frustrating about these kind of conversations.

It's like an all -or -nothing kind of thing.

So it's like yes, I mean obviously if you're married to a woman, you know that she more.

Prioritizes.

Emotional considerations like the emotional impact of any Decision over and against what you are going

to do.

But it's not like I said men are a hundred percent logical and women are a hundred percent emotional and just Incapable of like a

logical thought in their brain or something like that.

It's just they have tendencies like, you know, if you think about this like the percentages I don't know what they are.

But I mean men let's say men are like 95 logic 90 logic You know 10 emotion or something like

that and women are 75 70 You know logic 30 emotion or whatever.

It's just like that.

We're talking about something like that.

You're not talking about zero a hundred, right?

And.

So like now what you want to do then is you want to like.

If you're gonna have like a leadership position you're gonna have a teaching position like what you do.

What you don't want to do is you don't want to have like.

Like you want to have a person who is the least prone to deception in that position.

Yeah, especially when especially when the position is so Is is

responsible for you know, defending the flock against things like false teachers, right and rightly dividing

the Word of God, right?

Right, and that's the way God God's made men to have an overabundance of courage and he's made women to have an overabundance of compassion.

So you put those two things together and The lady is gonna rub off on the man and make him more compassionate than the otherwise

would be right and he's gonna rub off On her and make her more courageous and

Realistic at times and she would other be otherwise be right.

So like they're both gonna make each other more realistic meaning she's gonna rub rub off on some of that reckless courage on him

and make Him more realistic, right?

He's gonna rub off on that naivety on her end and make it a little bit more grounded in.

Like we have to take godly risk at times, right?

Yeah.

But then what you want to have happen is you want the man in the position of leadership and the woman rubbing off on him.

Pulling him back.

You don't want the guy trying to push her forward.

You get what I'm saying?

Yeah, yeah, because there are like real situations in life that require real courage like so, you know.

If you're storming the beaches of Normandy you want the guy there who basically can look at that and shut off all

like it has the capacity to shut off all the Emotion and say what do we got?

What do we have to do here?

Right?

Yeah.

And like a man is much easier able to do that than a woman, right?

Yeah now but didn't you want her in the background.

Keeping him from being just a total harsh.

Hold my beer.

Yeah, you want her doing that but yeah, he's gonna be better equipped to say All right, like we make this move we lose 10 ,000

young men, right?

Like and so that's what you want.

Like you want her in the background helping him not to be a reckless fool.

And then at the same time because you know, like he couldn't bear to come home to her Weeping or he could he couldn't

bear to die on the battlefield and have her left, you know.

Mess of tears, you know for the next like that's what you want.

But so he's built to be strong and tough.

She's built to be sensitive and caring and that's why you know.

Women are designed to take care of children and that's why men are designed to do the hard physical labor go fight the battles.

Like it and so we're just made differently.

And so when you're talking about this prone to deception thing.

Yeah, I mean like women because of their nature they can they can certainly be more naive.

They can certainly Get to be a little bit more prone to think the best

about people in a way that they shouldn't right.

Mm -hmm.

And like that's a good thing.

Like that's a good thing and that's a creative feature.

But I mean, it's just not an all -or -nothing proposition.

So, you know what people hear when you say something like that is oh, they're just hopelessly naive.

You know airhead never had a logical thought in their brain, you know might as well just don't talk, you know.

Yeah, yeah, and it's just like that's like yeah.

That's not what anyone's saying.

That's not what the Bible is saying and there's no reason to go there with it in your brain.

You know, I saw that I saw that Twitter thread where you were you were having that

conversation and I thought Probably the most I read the most ironic

thing about this conversation is at some point Someone jumped in there who

who was basically saying hey what you know women aren't Aren't more prone to deception

than men, right?

That's what they're saying.

And then you go to their Twitter profile and in their bio it says maybe even

their name said this too, but Basically said they were a woman pastor, right?

It's like Okay, so the so the person who doesn't even understand that the Bible condemned very

clearly condemns female pastors even in the passage that is being

mentioned in this conversation is Saying, you know, hey women aren't more prone to

deception, right that.

That's kind of the thing that it was funny.

I mean, it was the most illogical kind of conversation That with her that you can possibly imagine.

Like there was no logic or reason it was all just emotional arguments on the other side right.

And see it, you know, right.

She's just proving the point like that.

I mean in her case in particular.

Define irony, right, right.

Okay.

All right.

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