October 28, 2020 Show with Dr. Lane Tipton & Dr. Jeffrey C. Waddington on “Defending the Faith Biblically” (Day 3 of a 5-Day Tribute to Dr. Greg L. Bahnsen)

Opening Program and Tribute to Greg L. Bahnsen

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Today is another reason for rejoicing in the Lord because we have another tribute during our five-day tribute to the late Dr. Greg L. Bonson a world-renowned theologian, scholar, philosopher, apologist, and debater and Dr. Greg L. Bonson has been the inspiration to countless millions of Christians I'm sure globally and especially in the realm of apologetics and today is as I said day number three of our five-day tribute and we have some special guests to pay tribute to Dr. Bonson.

The first guest I will introduce to you now is a dear friend that I've known for quite a long time now and he has been interviewed on this program many times in fact if you listen to this program regularly you will know that Dr. Jeff Waddington.

Jeffrey C. Waddington is currently in the midst of a series on Romans on Iron Trip and Zion Radio and I think Jeff is while he's on the phone with us he must be washing dishes or cleaning out his study because there's a lot of racket going on in the background but it's great to have you back on Iron Trip and Zion Radio author, scholar, Jonathan Edwards expert Dr. Jeffrey C. Waddington who is also pastor of Faith Orthodox Presbyterian Church.

In Farn Grove, Pennsylvania. It's great to have you back. That's weird because every time you're.

On you can hear footsteps, you can hear clatter, I don't know what's going on but.

Or spirits from the other realm.

And it's great to have you with us and we have for the very first time joining us on this program today Dr. Lane Tipton. I'm so glad that we could have Dr. Tipton on today. He is the pastor at Trinity Orthodox Presbyterian Church in Eastern Pennsylvania and a fellow of Systematic and Biblical Theology for Reformed Forum.

He's the author of many articles and the co-editor of Revelation and Reason, New Essays in Reformed Apologetics, excuse me, and Resurrection and Eschatology, Theology and Service of the Church, Essays in Honor of Richard B. Gaffin Jr.

It's my honor and privilege to welcome you for the very first time ever to Iron Trip and Zion.

Radio Dr. Lane Tipton. A really good discussion I'm sure so thank you so much. Well although our.

Topic today is a tribute to the late Dr. Greg L. Bonson who was born in 1948 and went home to be with the Lord for eternity in 1995 and specifically to pay tribute to him our theme will be Defending the Faith Biblically.

But before we do that Lane we have a tradition here on Iron Trip and Zion Radio with first-time guests. Jeff Waddington has already done this for us when he was on for the first time so if you could provide for us a summary of your salvation testimony.

Oh yeah I was.

Because my mother was a wonderfully to lead me from darkening the door wonderful on my mother's side my mother would take us to term theology per se. And right after my high school at Eastern New Mexico I came home that summer thought you know probably be a good idea to know Judeo-Christian with really no input on the inside.

Turned on the television on a Sunday morning tell you who he is but uh televangelist was the scapegoat. Praise God. Well it goes to show you that God is sovereign.

Over all and he even uses very uh what's the best way to put this very flawed humans and even lost humans. I don't know if Jimmy Swaggart is lost or not for certain but uh he even uses lost persons who are proclaiming the truth for one reason or another to bring him to bring his elect to himself and save them.

And uh and I'm not saying please don't misunderstand me I'm not saying Billy Graham is lost uh but I have a very hard time uh not with his theology now since he's in heaven but when he uh became a global celebrity uh I had a very serious problem with his crusade practices uh and his ecumenism.

Even more than that humanism with not only Roman Catholics but even uh people who reject Christ as savior. And uh I know quite a number of people who came to Christ through the preaching and evangelism of Billy Graham and and a lot of people came to Christ through reading the late great planet earth even though I entirely dismiss that book and its author uh as being trustworthy.

But you never.

Know what the Lord is going to use. Amen. As I've said before the praise God we are thankful uh.

As well because we have been blessed in the body of Christ to have you amongst us as an ambassador for Christ. And uh the gifts that you bring to the table have been a blessing uh to uh innumerable Christians and the lost as well.

So we thank you for uh your contribution to the body of Christ. And um today we are going to be not only uh paying tribute to the late Dr. Greg L. Bonson but we're also going to be promoting the Bonson Project.

Let me give you all the website of the Bonson Project. It is bonsonproject .com b-a-h-n-s-e-n project .com. And one thing we've got to do uh Lane and Jeff we've got to get on the case of the webmaster uh because to my knowledge unless I'm just doing something wrong there is no page that actually gives a thorough biography a bio bio sketch of Greg Bonson on the web.

On the website there's a big photograph of him. But but uh we'll we'll we'll reach that point later on. But uh Dr. Lane Tipton since you've have not been on this program before today why don't you let our listeners know uh how you came to discover uh Dr. Greg L. Bonson and his teaching and what kind of an impact it had on you personally.

Well as possible then he gave me a lot of really good reform to get enough of it celebrated by the way the 50th anniversary. He told me that I began. I also read the belief and also found him to be of enormous help in helping me get a grasp on the main issues and uh immense help.

Until well Dr. Jeff Waddington if you could also let our listeners.

Know how you first became aware of Dr. Greg Bonson's life legacy and teaching.

And how it has specifically impacted your own life and ministry. Thank you for on the operators. And you could boil down and publish. It had gone out of print. Yes in fact we have been giving a copy a day away to listeners who have questions.

Excellent summary of. They're really helpful in the fact that almost of the of the way redemptive is to the understand. Well uh today.

We are specifically going to be addressing the theme as I mentioned before under the umbrella theme of a tribute to the late Dr. Greg L. Bonson. Day number three we are going to be specifically addressing defending the faith biblically which is something Dr. Bonson was most known.

Uh to champion. Uh now uh do you. Would you agree. And we'll have Dr. Tipton chime in right now. Would you agree that there is quite a lot of significance in this theme defending the faith biblically.

Because although it might not have caught the attention of your average evangelical who is not paying attention but it seems to me that many of the most prolific authors best-selling authors especially most well-known and most popular televangelists and basically the most popular and beloved celebrities if you will within modern evangelicalism seek to defend the faith without using the bible as their emphasis or their source.

They tend to appeal to emotion and many other things that are not rooted in scripture and.

Do you agree with what I just said Dr. Tipton. Yes I do. Uh you definitely find the trend and and sadly there's we are first triune god called one so yes. Dr. Jeff Waddington what do you think.

Drives uh Christians to skip over the bible in order to make their presentations and declarations and sermons and evangelism efforts uh to the lost what is it that compels them. And they're supposed to be in love with the bible.

They're supposed to be basing their lives on the bible. They have allegedly come to faith themselves through the hearing of preaching of the bible or the reading of the bible. What. Why do you think there's such a compelling desire that that draws many Christians to skip it when when trying to explain and declare the faith to the.

Lost. I remember what I remember when I worked for Salem Media one of the. In fact it is the largest.

Christian radio network in the world. Uh there was a talk show host who will remain nameless and one thing that he insisted upon that not only he or anybody who happened to fill in as a guest host if he was on vacation or sick or something.

Well and also what he insisted upon from the listeners is when they when they called in it was a live call-in show. When they called in to give a comment or to ask a question they were not to quote scripture.

And this hosts moronic reasoning for that and that's moronic for a Christian and a professing evangelical Christian to make such a requirement in my opinion was that if we start quoting the bible all the time the world will think we are too stupid to put things into our own words.

I mean that to me isn't. Isn't that for a Christian to even come up with that concept wouldn't you say. That's pretty horrific.

It sounded like Dr. Tipton you wanted to chime in on what I had said as well. Well I was going to ask if that's okay I don't want to just jump in. Um oh in fact you know.

Something I just looked at the clock. So we're going to have you chime in when we come back from our first station break. Wonderful. And if anybody would like to join us on the air actually I was going to invite you to join us with questions.

But we already have enough questions that were left over from yesterday that could not be read on the air. We didn't have time to read them on the air yesterday. So those folks are going to be blessed because we're going to read your question for our guests today because they continue to be very relevant since we are in day number three of our tribute to the late Dr. Greg L. Bonson.

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The Authority of Scripture and Why Christians Avoid It

Welcome back. This is Chris Arms and your host of Iron Truck and Zion Radio. And today is day number three of our tribute to the late Dr. Greg L. Bonson and our promotion of the Bonson Project. And our guests today are Dr. Lane Tipton and Dr. Jeffrey C. Waddington.

And before you comment, Dr. Tipton, as you were just about to do before the break, I'd like you to explain to our listeners what the Reform Forum is. I forgot to do that earlier. And because I know that you and Dr. Waddington are both a part of that wonderful ministry.

...academy, especially right now devoted to the theology and apologetics of Cornelius. To add, I think he's a little better. Camden Busey and Jim Cassidy, Glenn Cleary, Jeff Waddington, and a number of others serve that ministry.

And it's a...

Well, Dr. Waddington?

Lane did a pretty good job as executive director. That's a pretty renal...

And it's reformedforum .org. Great. Well, I hope that you folks get blessed by that and make use of it. I know that at least one of my pastors, possibly both, I just know that in the conversation that one of them, John Miller, at Grace Baptist Church in Carlisle, Pennsylvania, a Reformed Baptist congregation, he loves the Reform Forum.

So thank you for blessing the body of Christ. So, Dr. Tipton, you were going to respond to my comment that a talk show host on a major Christian network that I worked for, this was a syndicated host that was on nationwide, had a rule where neither he nor a fill-in guest host nor the listeners could quote Scripture when bringing up an issue, asking a question, or giving a comment, because he thought that that made Christians look stupid to the world, because the non-believer would think that we were not intelligent enough to formulate things in our own words.

But if you could comment whatever you were going to say before the break.

Oh, sure. And I'll be brief. God is... ...deed revelation. The Scriptures is going to depend on what you think about their nature, and what you think about the nature of the Scripture, organically related to the nature of the God who speaks by that Scripture.

...deed revelation from creation to consummation. Tragedy. Going back to our major theme,.

Which under the umbrella of paying tribute to Dr. Bonson, is defending the faith biblically. First of all, we'll go back to Dr. Waddington. When you are defending the faith biblically to a lost person, another reason, and I don't think it's a good reason, but another reason that some of these more popular Christian authors and personalities, TV evangelists and so on, they skip the Bible when defending the faith, or they think they're defending the faith, is because you're going to be speaking gobbledygook to the lost person.

Why are you quoting the Bible from them when they don't know the Bible? They don't have any respect for the Bible. They could care less about the Bible. They're either indifferent to it or hostile to it, so why even bother quoting it?

If you could pick up from there. ...of God's world that is providence and has revealed himself in both... We're going to our midway break right now,.

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