Friday Night Live! ***Bible Q&A w/Mr&Mrs YourCalvinist
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- Okay. Good evening, everybody. We're glad that you are joining us. We see everybody already jumping into the comments.
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- If it, you know, as if is from, okay. All right. So, uh, we're going to talk about a few things tonight.
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- Few of you have already asked, are we going to talk about Trump choosing Paula White? You bet we are. Absolutely.
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- That's actually number four on my list. Um, but a couple of things I want to go through before I get to number four on my list.
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- Uh, number one, one of my, uh, one of the folks, uh, from the buy me a coffee group sent me a message this week and said, um, something really important and I thought it was good.
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- She was talking about just the importance of people coming in and maybe people who haven't heard the gospel.
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- And so I want to make it a, I want to make a commitment hopefully moving forward that at some point in these shows,
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- I at least take an opportunity to stop and give a short gospel presentation just in case somebody jumps in.
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- They've never heard the gospel before. The most important thing we do is tell people about Jesus Christ and how they can be saved.
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- So that's going to be a commitment moving forward. And I thought that was a great recommendation. It's not that I haven't wanted to do it in the past.
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- It's just sometimes I get caught up doing other things. And so just real quick, I want to say if you come here tonight and you don't know the
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- Lord Jesus Christ, and you don't even know what that means, the Bible tells us there's six things that you can remember. Number one, and it actually, this is a good way to remember this.
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- If you want to share the gospel with somebody and you just want, maybe an acronym to help you out. This is something that I teach to young people.
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- I teach it just as a way to remember how to walk through the gospel with somebody and it spells out gospel. G -O -S -P -E -L.
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- Something I learned from Greg Steer years ago. Greg Steer is an evangelist and basically it starts like this.
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- God created us in his image. That's the G. Our sin separates us from him or our sin is an offense to him.
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- You can even go as far as to say our sin causes us to be at war with God. And then the third thing is that sin cannot be forgiven, cannot be repaid by good work.
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- So that's the G, the O, and the S. The P is a longer one. It's paying the price for sin.
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- Jesus died on the cross and he rose again. That's the P. The E is everyone who trusts in him alone, trusts in his finished work will have life forever, eternal life.
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- And that's the L. Life forever, eternal life begins when we trust in the Lord Jesus Christ.
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- And so that's a simple gospel presentation. Maybe it's something that you can use.
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- And it's something, again, it's not the way I'm going to do it every week, but I thought it might be a good way to start with. You remember that? Remember we went to Dare to Share Ministries?
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- Early 2000s. Oh, yeah. It was back when I was a youth pastor. Yes, there was a time in my past when
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- I was actually a youth pastor, and we went to a Dare to Share event and he taught us that six statement thing and it sort of stuck with me even until now.
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- I've had Greg Steer on the show, if you didn't know that. If you want to go back and look through the archives, you can find that I've interviewed
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- Greg about that. All right. So that was the first thing. I had that down. Number one, don't forget to give the gospel.
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- Number two, don't forget the Bible reading plan. If you're reading along with us, we're right. We're just finishing the
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- Sermon on the Mount. We're reading through the gospels together. So this week we were finishing up the Sermon on the
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- Jennifer, did you, were you pleased that our intrepid
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- Commander -in -Chief has decided to begin a faith initiative in the
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- White House? Well, I don't, I was,
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- I was very surprised. I guess I can't really say I was very surprised because didn't he choose her the last time?
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- Yeah, she's, he identified her as his pastor, I think. Like, she's my pastor.
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- Yeah. I know. Or something like that. Like, you know, advisor, spiritual advisor.
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- There's a video out there of her speaking in tongues. And it's, it's her, Paula White speaking in tongues is exactly what you think when you hear somebody making fun of someone speaking in tongues.
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- It's like, it's like when somebody's like, you know, they're, they're when, when somebody's like saying this is what it sounds like to speak in tongues and then they mock, they, you know, they mock somebody speaking in tongues.
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- You could cut to her speaking in tongues. It's the exact same thing. It's the exact same thing. Somebody said
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- Alex Jones covered it. I didn't see that, but that was hilarious. So we came up with something that we thought was funny.
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- Comparable comparable post assignments that are similar to the
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- Paula White assignment. He assigned her to be the head of this faith initiative in the White House or department of faith, whatever it's called.
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- And we said, okay, we're going to think of some ones and we want you guys in the comments to help us think of some of these.
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- All right. First one Having Paula White as the head of the faith initiative is like having
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- Ronald McDonald be the department of health. Yeah, the head of the department of health.
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- Ronald McDonald is the like having Paula White as the head of the department of faith is like having Ronald McDonald as the head of the department of health.
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- All right. That was hers. That was her joke. So if you thought that was funny and give her a hand. All right. Mine was a little, little bit more graphic.
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- I said, it's like having Jeff, Jeffrey Dahmer in charge of the FDA. All right. So that I went a little darker.
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- I'm not going to lie, you know, having and for those of you who don't know who Jeffrey Dahmer is, congratulations, you're a fetus.
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- You're still a child because you probably, if you're not my age, you probably don't know who that is.
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- But he was a serial killer who ate people. So I just thought it was funny if he would be in charge of the FDA. I mean, it's not funny. Yeah, it is.
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- It's funny. It's okay. Number three Choosing Trump, Trump choosing
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- Paula White as the head of the faith initiative is comparable to choosing Osama bin
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- Laden to head up the ATF Again, it's a terrible choice.
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- It's a terrible choice and people are like, oh, well, he's already dead. I know. So was Jeffrey Dahmer. Get with the jokes.
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- Stay with the program. All right, last one. At least the last one we came up with.
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- Maybe you've got some, oh, I like that one. Anthony Fauci heading up the CDC. Didn't he actually?
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- Okay Last one I had Ukrainian president
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- Zelensky in charge of the federal reserve I just think it fits.
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- Okay. All right, so Those are clown world. I know it just with these ideas
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- You're gonna have a faith initiative and you're going to put the worst It's not even like I mean
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- You know, yes, she's a female pastor and that doesn't exist So right away she's disqualified simply because she's a woman and she's in a position that she shouldn't be in Two she's a health and wealth heretic.
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- So not only is she a position she shouldn't be in but she's also in the uh in the position of She's she's also a heretic in that position
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- And so it's just from going from bad to worse Somebody said Brandon Herrera for the
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- ATF group Excuse me ATF director. Who's who do you know Brandon Herrera?
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- Oh Google. Hold on I think this is worth it Brandon Because I want to see how funny this joke is
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- He's the AK guy, is that who he is? Okay. All right. Okay. I like it. Okay.
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- Good job All right. We got to move on anybody else have any good jokes? You can put them in the comment with the cowardly lion as a secret service agent
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- Yeah, I got that that's funny All right, uh, David Koresh for the
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- ATF like that one like that one uh To do to do
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- All right, again, these are kind of dark. Somebody said that's dark. Yeah. Yep. All right All right, guys.
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- Well, we need to move on. Um I do have a video i'm going to pop up here real quick.
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- Zio Said this he said having paula white in charge of the department of faith is like having el chapo in charge of the border
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- I think you win. I think that's the best one of the night. That was Awesome. Thank you my friend for throwing out the jokes
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- All right, guys, and we want to continue on tonight Uh got a lot going on. Oh, by the way.
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- We got a lot of questions to get to tonight. Some of these questions are hard And and I mean, they're never super easy.
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- But tonight's questions, uh were a little difficult so um, we have eight solid biblical questions tonight, we're going to try to get to all of them jennifer if you would
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- Take us through the first question as long as I don't have to try to answer them Could you please explain what you believe about two kingdom theology?
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- I know some sins are also crimes and I know some anabaptists say that it's not our kingdom of the political realm okay, this is a very good question that requires a little bit of background because i'm pretty sure that not everyone will
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- Immediately know what the questioner is asking about because they're referring to something called two kingdom theology and this is usually distinguished from or juxtaposed with what some would call uh, theonomy, uh, or maybe theonomic reconstructionism
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- And really it has to do with our involvement in the political sphere
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- And what we should expect the the political sphere or the state to do regarding god's law and so And and i'm gonna have to be brief about this
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- If this is something that you want me to talk about at greater length, I would be happy to But because we're doing friday night live and I and I try to make these brief
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- I don't want to make an entire the entire show about this but breaking it down Kind of simply if it's possible to do that it really comes down to the question of We we know that there are
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- Different spheres of authority there is the home where you have god's structure the father the mother the children
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- God has a structure of authority in the home God has a Structure of authority in the church
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- There's the elders the deacons the church members and there's a government that the church has set up within the church
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- And then there is the government of the state And the state has a specific sphere that the that the scriptures allow for it to have we we're told about this in romans 13
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- Doesn't bear the sword in vain things like that and so the question of of two kingdom theology is
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- What is the role or responsibility? of christians Who live in this world who live in?
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- The kingdom of god because we're in the church But also we have to deal with the kingdom of man in the state, right?
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- We we have to deal with that and and and so The idea of sort of a radical two kingdom theology would see a major divide there
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- Where where where the church doesn't seek to influence the state now that that may some of you may say
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- That's a radical exaggeration. I'm not trying to be radical or exaggerate too much But that's really the issue how much influence should the church exercise on the state, right?
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- And how much should be expected of the state to obey god's word and this comes to the question of things like natural law versus revelation scripture gives us revelation from god and then you have natural law, which is what all men recognize to be
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- Good and bad, right almost all men recognize things like stealing is bad Lying is bad murder is bad the the second table of the ten commandments
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- Most people recognize those even who are not believers recognize those things are bad, right?
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- And so does the government only have to involve itself with those things
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- Or does the government should the government be enforcing laws like blasphemy laws things that come from the first table of the law the ten commandments
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- Should the government have like blue laws, which which Enforced like sabbath keeping and things like that These are this is where the question of two kingdom theology comes from and I I hope that i'm doing it justice and if anyone thinks i'm i'm not please forgive me because i i'm
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- I am trying to explain it as as best as I can. Can I ask a question? Well before let me say one last thing
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- This is also not an area in which I am an expert. Uh, I I will say that right away.
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- I'm I I Most of my studies and teaching are in things like systematic theology, uh historical theology things like that Uh, but this particular area is not one that I would
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- I would claim any area of expertise So so what i'm telling you if I am incorrect i'm doing my best to to not be
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- And to to be as accurate as possible. So just just want to throw that out there. How is it different from the on me?
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- Okay. Well, this is where Theonomy is the idea of the application of god's law to civil society
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- They are namas means the law of god or god's law and it's not just god's law But it's the application of god's law in civil society so like you have general equity theonomy, which basically says that there is a there is a a sense in which god's law should be
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- Generally applied to the civic sphere And then there's more like theonomic reconstructionism, which is is the attempt to try to enforce a more rigid
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- Understanding of god's law on and again the word rigid sounds like i'm being negative I'm, not trying to be maybe i'm just at a loss for the exact words, but but but at the same time saying
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- Like theonomic reconstructionism is the idea of Establishing a christian state okay, and so Two kingdom theology would say it's not our job to create a christian state
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- That's not what we're here for we're pilgrims in this world. That's a big that's a big. Uh, Language among two kingdom guys.
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- It's like, you know, we're not of this world. We are um, you know, we are Again, we're not of this world.
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- We are pilgrims Right and the others the theonomic reconstructions would say no We live in this world to influence this world to be salt and light in this world to make changes
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- And therefore we should go and see those changes made right now as a baptist
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- Right. This is where the question was asked. Well you as a baptist Where do you actually they said anabaptist, but they're they're asking the question, you know, um
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- Should we be separate and think and if you do think about the anabaptist think about like the mennonites
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- And the amish and ones like that. They do really separate themselves They separate themselves from all things worldly and they they sort of divide and they live amongst themselves to try to be
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- The kingdom of what they consider to be the kingdom of god living outside of the kingdom of the world and so um
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- Here's my position because someone asked what do you believe and what's your position? I am
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- I am probably the most um I I'm the most
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- Post -millennial amillennial guy you're going to meet meaning I do believe that christians should engage the public sphere
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- I do believe we should tell the state that it will be held accountable to god's law and I think that we should preach to those who are in power like donald trump or anyone else and Remind them that they are going to be judged by god for how they
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- Not only govern according to natural law, but how they govern according to revelation
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- So I do think those things are true um, but at the same time
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- I I I would probably still step back and say That because of my amillennial view,
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- I don't think that there's going to be a christian state I I don't that's not what i'm looking forward to I think that conversions will happen and there will be times where as the mustard seed grows into a large bush
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- And as the as that happens, we're going to see conversions and those conversions will affect the communities that they are in but the idea of a
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- Christian state and all those things is not something that i'm necessarily looking forward to so that's kind of my
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- If you want to call it a middle ground and i'm not trying to ride a fence here I'm, just saying i'm still figuring it out myself still trying to understand it best
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- I can but um, that's that's kind of where i'm at and um,
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- But but again when it comes to things like abortion, I think I think that falls
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- Clearly under natural law But it's also under revealed scripture too. I mean we go to the we go to the the government we say
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- You are violating the very nature of of Who we are we are we are made in the image of god
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- It's obvious that human beings are different than all other creation And you're allowing human beings to be murdered in the womb and you need to stop that and you're if not you are going to bring
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- Judgment upon yourself and upon this nation, and I think that we should do that um
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- But also I do want to say one thing because somebody just posted doug and channel said state church is never good
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- I as a baptist, I think that's something else I should say as a baptist
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- My people If I can say My ancestors have never done well in a church state system
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- That's true um my my my The the the those who held to the same view of baptism that I hold to um, many of them died
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- In their what's called the third baptism, which was being drowned for their faith and so um
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- A lot of one question that comes up Sometimes is if there's a christian state who's going to be the christian prince
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- And what is he going to enforce? This is an important question guys. It really is because the question becomes okay
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- Is there going to be an enforcing of a particular denominational understanding of certain viewpoints?
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- And if that's the case, is it going to make certain views of christianity? illegal um
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- That that to me is is a bridge too far and so Those are those are questions that again i'm still working out in my own mind
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- I hope that you can understand that i'm trying to be at the helpful and humble at the same time. That's my goal
- 29:37
- And uh, not not you know, um Not go too far with any of that.
- 29:43
- All right, so, uh All right. We're having a little bit of technical difficulties. It says we're having trouble streaming to x maybe an issue
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- We'll keep trying. Okay All right. Well, we'll just uh We'll just say no problem
- 30:01
- What's that Yeah, great. Paula white is the new christian prince. Okay Um, you know, uh again that that the christian princess
- 30:11
- Okay All right. So hopefully that was at least a helpful answer to your uh question now, um
- 30:22
- Oh, well, I appreciate that and somebody said christians should participate in town meetings, uh, lindsey said that I agree lindsey
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- I I love to see it when when uh, you know folks go and they Stand before their city councils and they remind them of god's law and they remind them that they're going to stand before god and be
- 30:38
- Judged the bible says that the government is a deacon of god a minister of god to to Uh reward the righteous and to punish the wicked that's their job
- 30:48
- And it's not it's not wrong to remind them of that. It's not wrong to remind them of that at all
- 30:53
- Someone asked earlier. Are you an abolitionist? Absolutely. Uh, um, I am an abolitionist now uh uh for the sake of time because this this would this would be
- 31:07
- There there there would need to be a longer answer. I am an absolute abolitionist. I believe abortion should be abolished
- 31:13
- Um, and I do believe a lot of the pro -life advocates actually stand in the way of fully abolishing abortion, which is not good
- 31:20
- Um, but I do think that there's some unnecessary infighting that happens. I've talked to many abolitionists about this
- 31:26
- And uh, and so while i'm an abolitionist, I think sometimes we we start fights that are unnecessary at times
- 31:33
- Uh with those who are essentially seeking the same The same goal now if somebody's standing in way of that goal, that's one thing but if we're all seeking the same goal, then you know, we
- 31:44
- We can have a conversation and not have to always not have to always fight about everything Um, we we can try to to move forward on that.
- 31:51
- So if if that sounds cryptic i'm not trying to be again these are these are difficult questions and um,
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- I remember when I taught I taught a class I teach a class in ethics In our academy at the church and we do a whole class on life ethics and I talk about the different views of abortion
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- And why certain people might hold to an incremental view versus an abolitionist view and I explain why
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- I hold the abolitionist view but uh, but but I talk about why Certain people might think the expedient route is is is the is the incremental view.
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- I don't think it is I don't think it's right, but that's that's the um that's
- 32:28
- There is a there's a conversation to be had there and I i'm doug wilson, uh was uh, a good example of this doug wilson
- 32:38
- Uh debated uh an abolitionist on this subject and He made the point of some if I remember the whole thing
- 32:46
- But he made the point basically he said if I had if he said if I had the choice tomorrow to make every Abortion illegal from west of the mississippi
- 32:54
- And and but it kept abortion legal He said I would still do it to save the children west of the mississippi, right? Like I would do that and a lot of people took issue with what he was saying
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- But I understood the point of what he was making is um, we want to save the babies we can
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- Um while we're trying to save all the babies that's and so some people may take issue with that language or what i'm saying
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- I'm an abolitionist. Um, but this is a I think this is a conversation that that that we um, uh
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- That we can have so hopefully that wasn't too obscure. Am I making sense tonight?
- 33:26
- I feel like i'm just I feel like I hopped up on kool -aid or something. I am drinking kool -aid tonight Sugar -free kool -aid we're back on um, how should we tell them we're back on yeah, we're on we're
- 33:39
- We're we're on low carb Which is fun Um, not really low carb. It's we're doing no sugar.
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- No flour That's kind of our our our thing that we're doing because we feel better it's not necessary I mean we need obviously, you know, we always need to be healthier, but it's just it also makes us feel better.
- 33:56
- So trying to uh, trying to Have no, no, no sugar no flour. And and so I have sugar -free kool -aid here.
- 34:04
- So Okay, and i'm drinking the kool -aid. All right All right.
- 34:10
- Uh, oh Somebody said go full carnivore I had I had lunch with a guy this week a member of our church and he's on the lion diet.
- 34:17
- You heard that? I said what's the difference between the lion and the carnivore dad? He's like I only eat red meat and salt like oh my goodness
- 34:25
- It's like eventually you're not eating you're eating like one thing. He's like he's like i'm eating raw red meat
- 34:34
- I think carnivore is really an interesting diet But when you're just like i'm just gonna have the steak with the side of steak and here give me all the salt
- 34:45
- And all the and all the cardiologists are going Okay, all right, okay uh
- 34:56
- But if you how many of you have ever heard of the lion diet? No, I Is your oh,
- 35:04
- I thought you meant jordan peterson's daughter was in the comments. I was like, hey jordan peterson's daughter you got me
- 35:09
- Yeah, no, I think it would be good I think I think you know You want to do you want to?
- 35:17
- How you want to do carnivore for a week and then tell them how we feel? No, no
- 35:24
- If you got okay i'll tell you what If this video once it goes out if this video hits 2 000 views
- 35:33
- That's that's within the realm of possibility. They usually hit around 1500. But if this video hits 2 000 views
- 35:40
- And within a week As soon as it hits 2 000 views i'll do carnivore for one week
- 35:46
- I'll do carnivore for one week if this if this video does um If this video hits 2 000 views, how about that?
- 35:54
- um Hawaiian diet is so fetch It is fetch, okay
- 36:01
- Okay All right. Um I'm hot Maybe turn the ac off earlier.
- 36:07
- She's like i'm cold Well, i'm hot now. Okay Let's uh, let's move to the second question.
- 36:13
- We didn't get the time. Oh you did Wow, we're 20 minutes in on the first question, but hey, that was a difficult question
- 36:20
- Let's move to the second question because it ain't no easier Do you know what the christians worship look like when they went into the temple after pentecost acts 247?
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- Since christ fulfilled the requirements of prophet priest and king Was it to? Was it to reason only or worship too?
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- I can't imagine they were tolerated Okay, so the question here is based on acts 2 46 and 47
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- It says day by day attending the temple together and breaking bread in their homes They received their food with glad and generous hearts praising god
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- And having favor with all the people and the lord added to their number day by day those who were being saved The question is what were they what were they doing in the temple?
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- Were they continuing to? Were they continuing to engage in temple worship?
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- The text does not tell us clearly but I have to say I don't think so I don't think they were one of the things
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- I don't believe they were doing I don't believe they were continuing to engage in sacrifice That's and and I and I I based that on the the the the doctrine the theology of the new covenant is that sacrifice has ended with the cross
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- And we know there's a period where sacrifice is continued in the temple up until 80 70 and that's when it was completely abolished by god
- 37:37
- When when god completely destroyed the temple through the through titus who came in and leveled it flat so no, no sacrifices have happened since 80 70, but um but the but the issue of um
- 37:53
- The the christians going into the temple the question is why were they going into the temple? Some people believe they were going into the temple to preach and to tell people about jesus
- 38:01
- I think that's very reasonable because it says in this text that they were that The lord was adding to their number day by day, right?
- 38:09
- How was he adding to their number? They were going and preaching they were telling the jewish people your messiah has come you see that that turtle dove
- 38:16
- You're sacrificing or that lamb you're sacrificing. It's no longer necessary This sacrifice has been fulfilled in the person of jesus christ and so um
- 38:28
- That's that's what I think was happening. Um What did their worship look like?
- 38:33
- I think it looked like in that in that regard I think what they were doing in the temple was Evangelism and what they were doing in their homes because it said they were attending the temple together and breaking bread in their homes
- 38:43
- So they would go back to their homes and they would have their fellowship. They would have likely breaking bread here
- 38:49
- Is is dealing with the the the well, it could be great could be sharing a meal But it could also be um the participation in the supper the lord's supper so um
- 39:00
- But of course it also says they received their food with glad and generous hearts. So It can have that meaning as well the meaning of fellowship.
- 39:08
- So At the end of the day, I don't believe they were practicing sacrifices anymore um,
- 39:14
- I believe that ended with christ for for those who followed him and um So that that's my answer simple answer to the question not that it's a simple question it is a difficult question because we don't we don't have all the answers, but we can make some educated deductions based on What we understood their theology to be and that's what i'm giving you as an answer.
- 39:36
- So I hope that was helpful All right, we can move on. So now going back to ethics or going back to a different way
- 39:44
- Can a husband be into pornography for over 30 years without any repentance of it? Can a woman get divorced freely without judgment?
- 39:51
- Isn't this also abandonment as well? Okay this is a very important ethical question which requires a pastoral answer and I'm only i'm only prefacing this with that statement by simply saying
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- There are going to be some differences And and primarily the difference begins with Whether or not you believe divorce is ever justified
- 40:26
- Those who believe divorce is never justified. They would say the exception clauses in matthew or matthew 19 and and in um, uh, first corinthians 7 they would say those aren't actually exceptions and they should not be seen as exceptions um
- 40:42
- They would they would hold a view called the permanent view or the permanency view And that would essentially mean that divorce is never.
- 40:50
- Okay, no matter the situation divorce is never. Okay um, and uh
- 40:57
- There are many godly men who hold that position. Um, John pecker
- 41:03
- Well, he wrote the book, uh this momentary marriage right where he espouses
- 41:10
- Essentially a permanency view now Even those who hold a permanency view would usually allow for some type of separation in the case of abuse or things like that they're they're they're not trying to be unreasonable in regard to Um keeping someone safe or something like that.
- 41:25
- I want to be fair to their position But at the same time they would not allow for a righteous divorce in any in any
- 41:33
- Sense there's no there's never a time when you can divorce and then remarry. That's that that's the other part of it, too
- 41:39
- It's not just divorce, but it's also remarried so, um
- 41:45
- Our church does not hold to that view our church holds that there are What we would define as covenant breaking sins um the two
- 41:55
- Ones that we see in scripture and we and this is similar to what is taught in the westminster confession of faith so if you want to A more robust written understanding of this you can go to the westminster and find that it talks about um number one adultery if a person commits adultery then that would
- 42:14
- That would break the covenant and allow for a person to divorce their spouse uh, or Abandonment based upon first corinthians 7 says the unbelieving spouse departs
- 42:24
- The other person is no longer bound or or enslaved Meaning that they're now free and and no longer have to stay in that relationship
- 42:33
- Where the issue comes is really how you define both of those terms
- 42:41
- And we'll start with the abandonment I've heard people say All kinds of things fall under the category of abandonment um
- 42:51
- She was mean to me. So she's abandoned her love for me I mean that that that really has been i've heard that argument.
- 42:58
- She she um she has uh She's no longer affectionate with me. Therefore.
- 43:04
- She's abandoned her physical duties You know, the bible says don't withhold your body from one another so or don't withhold intimacy from one another
- 43:11
- So they say she's she's she's abandoned that so therefore she is You know, I can divorce her right?
- 43:17
- And so the abandonment one really becomes a Sort of an open door a lot of people try to fit things into abandonment that don't necessarily qualify
- 43:28
- And so this is where I said This is a pastoral question because it's really going to be the elders who are responsible
- 43:35
- To look at a situation and say does this really qualify as abandonment or is this person looking at this and trying to make an excuse?
- 43:42
- And that's a that's huge But on the case of adultery this one this one's even more difficult
- 43:51
- Because in the issue of adultery We do have the very words of christ
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- Where he says that if a if a man looks at a woman to lust after her he has already committed adultery with her in his heart so If we take that to mean
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- That if a man lusts after another woman His wife then has the right to divorce him if that's how we
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- Understand the words of jesus and his intention what was not only the intention But the implication of what he's saying if that's what he was trying to imply.
- 44:26
- That's what he was saying that Anytime a man lusts after a woman. He gives his wife the right to divorce him
- 44:34
- I one I think that is stretching the text further than jesus was intending.
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- Um The second thing I think you you you open up the door to mass
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- Examples of the way people could use that I mean, you know
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- Lust is a a a sin that many men deal with and many men struggle with at different areas of their life and different times in their life and um
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- If if if And it's one of the things in fact i'll use the example when when when when ray comfort goes out to Share the gospel.
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- What does he always say? He says have you have you have you ever lied? You're a liar. Have you ever stolen anything? You're a thief and then what does he say?
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- Have you ever looked with lust if you look with lust you're an adulterer that is true when we're defining the sin
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- In accordance with the the sin begins in the heart, right? That's the point but is that Looking with lust on behalf of a married man.
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- Does that constitute? A an act of covenant breaking sin
- 45:47
- And that's where the issue of pornography comes in All right. So now he's no longer just lusting with his mind
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- But now he's lusting with an a visual aid Right um and and The visual aid being either a video or a magazine or you know a website
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- These are the visual aids that Are helping him to lust
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- Does that constitute? Grounds for divorce. Is that a covenant breaking sin?
- 46:22
- Many people say yes Um, I have I I have a real hard time with that I have a hard time saying that that is the same as physical adultery even though I believe both are are bad
- 46:33
- I'm, not i'm not defending either one um, but I would say that if if a woman came to me and said my husband is in pornography
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- Does that mean I can divorce him? I would say there's more conversation to be had.
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- We need to talk more about this um You gave what
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- I would say is probably a terrible scenario not not not the person who wrote this I'm, not saying you gave a terrible scenario in the sense that you did it on purpose
- 47:00
- But a terrible scenario would be 30 years without repentance All right now we're probably dealing with an unbeliever
- 47:08
- I mean the very fact of if a man has has not struggled against adultery or i'm, sorry struggled against lust struggled against Pornography, but he's lived in it loved it and continued to do it for 30 years without repentance
- 47:24
- Then he would probably it would be right to question his faith And whether or not he's actually a believer
- 47:33
- And so at that point it becomes the question, okay now you're living you're you're living with an unbeliever most likely
- 47:41
- There's at least that needs to be brought up now if he's struggled and it's come up and it's gone away And he's dealt with it and and it's a battle that he's fought that's different But i'm saying you you wrote in here 30 years.
- 47:52
- No without any repentance and I would say yeah at this point we're dealing with Probably a person who's not a believer can't say for certain don't know the man's heart
- 48:03
- But that would be part of the conversation that I would have. So if this I want to say this
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- To the person who wrote this question number one. Thank you for sending in a great question This is difficult and i'm glad to get to deal with it
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- But let me say this if this is something you are personally dealing with And I would never share a name or anything.
- 48:24
- But if this is something you're personally personally dealing with I I beg of you to take this to talk to your pastors to talk to your elders at your church.
- 48:33
- Um, because You need more guidance than I can give on A show like this.
- 48:39
- I can give you the the sort of the biblical positions on it and what our church would do in this case but You need you need more than what we're able to give right now
- 48:50
- So if this is you but if you're asking just in general, I would say, um That the idea of getting divorced freely
- 49:01
- Here, that's another thing you wrote freely without judgment Meaning it has a covenant breaking sin been done
- 49:08
- I can't say for certain I can't say for certain because I do see a distinction as I said earlier
- 49:14
- So I hope that that is helpful everybody's saying fetch and Okay, uh
- 49:23
- Pastoral advice is fetch. Yes it is So, please talk to your pastor and don't just leave it here if this is something you're actually dealing with and um
- 49:33
- And uh, that's what the elders are for for sure. All right, let's move on to question number four
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- Was the covenant god made in genesis 15 with abraham With him or with himself with abraham as the subject not a participant
- 49:51
- This is an interesting question and it actually there's a longer email that came with it basically asking the question
- 49:58
- That when abraham's covenant was made in genesis 15, we know the covenant is promised in genesis 12 um, you know, uh where he calls him out of the land and he says you know go to the the land that I will show you and I will make you a great nation and I will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you and um
- 50:15
- Uh Through you all the nations will be blessed. That's the promise to abraham And then the covenant is cut with abraham in genesis 15 where the animals are separated and the smoking fire pot and the torch go between the animal parts and and and Abraham sees it, but he himself does not walk through it
- 50:39
- So the question that the person is asking is the question of Is abraham a participant in this covenant?
- 50:50
- Or is he merely the subject of the covenant? Now i'm not quite certain having read that what the what the what the real
- 51:01
- Concern is on behalf of the writer. So the person writing this question. I appreciate the question. It is a great theological question
- 51:07
- But i'm going to give you my answer and i'm going to give you a few biblical passages to help you understand how
- 51:12
- I arrive at my answer even though abraham doesn't walk through the Doesn't walk through the the the animal parts
- 51:21
- In that sense. It's a unilateral covenant. It's god making the covenant And he is making the covenant on his own.
- 51:28
- It's not dependent upon abraham's faithfulness. It is dependent on god's faithfulness That's why he's going through uh in the in the smoking fire pot and the torch but Abraham is still a participant in the covenant in this because we we read later
- 51:45
- That god made a covenant with abraham for instance in exodus 2 24 It said so god heard their groaning and god remembered his covenant with abraham
- 51:55
- So right there we see the word with his covenant with abraham leviticus 26 42
- 52:00
- Then I will remember my covenant with jacob. I remember my covenant with isaac and my covenant with abraham
- 52:07
- Right there my covenant with abraham and then finally psalm 105 8 says he has remembered his covenant forever the word which he commanded to a thousand generations the covenant which he made with abraham
- 52:21
- Now the only way that some might say well He's not talking some divide the covenant in genesis 15 with the covenant in genesis 17 where circumcision was added to the covenant
- 52:32
- Some people think that's two different covenants and and and if that's the position you're taking you might say well That's the covenant that's being referred to in these verses and not the one in genesis 15 however,
- 52:41
- I think that the Covenant that the sign in 17 is a sign of the covenant from 15
- 52:47
- So I I don't see the divide there and and if again some may have a difference with with me on that But you ask me my opinion.
- 52:54
- That's my opinion. I do believe that the covenant is with abraham but abraham is not participating as The one fulfilling the covenant he is receiving the blessings of the covenant and so how that works out and how you want to um
- 53:11
- How you want to define the word with? And how you see the 17?
- 53:17
- Um, you know, those are things somebody just made a good point hot wheels made a great point abraham became a participant when he believed
- 53:22
- That's a great point hot wheels very good thought the fact that Um abraham believed god and it was accounted under him as righteousness.
- 53:30
- Genesis 15 6. Absolutely true. Absolutely true So, um, yeah, I I again
- 53:35
- I I think saying that it's a covenant with abraham Is fair and and a right way of saying it.
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- 55:32
- Okay The next question we're going to deal with and we're almost to the hour mark So i'm going to try to make these last few um, kind of go through these kind of quickly, but this last one
- 55:42
- Deals with a youtube short that I did that I posted just yesterday And it was from our golf cart ride this week.
- 55:48
- It was about how men should be um If they if their wife knows more about the bible than them then they should study
- 55:56
- So that they know more about the bible than their wife That's basically what I said not exactly But this guy took a little issue with what
- 56:02
- I was saying and he has a further question to ask me I asked jennifer to read the whole question to us. Please read that now big fan of the show long time viewer first time emailer
- 56:11
- I have some questions regarding what you said in the youtube short You say that men should always know more about the bible than their wives
- 56:18
- So then according to your view are women who have earned a doctorate in divinity not allowed to get married
- 56:24
- To any man who is not also a doctor of divinity Since he would almost certainly have less theological knowledge than her
- 56:32
- What if she falls in love with like a high school teacher or something and they want to get married Should their pastor tell them that the high school teacher isn't good enough to marry her
- 56:41
- Because he doesn't know more about the bible than her If a woman gets married and then decides later in life to pursue a seminary education
- 56:48
- But her husband can't also attend seminary for other for whatever reason. Do you believe that the husband must?
- 56:56
- Not allow his wife to attend seminary Okay This was a very well thought out question.
- 57:02
- I want to show the video. It's only 35 seconds long I want to show the video for those who didn't see it.
- 57:08
- So check this out about first corinthians 14 What does it say? It says why it says women are to be quiet in the church And if they have a question there to ask their husbands, what does that mean?
- 57:16
- That means the husband's supposed to know the answer That means he is actually supposed to be competent in the word To where his wife can come and talk to him and some guys say well my wife knows about more about the bible than I Do guess what big boy?
- 57:26
- That means you got some work to do that means you should go and actually commit yourself to learning the word
- 57:31
- If she's been a christian longer than you guess what she can help you But at the same time it's your responsibility to learn the word not her responsibility to learn the word for you
- 57:44
- All right All right. So, um very quickly just I wanted to make sure if you hadn't seen the short now you understand the context of the question
- 57:54
- And so I want to just respond To a few things that you said in this email number one
- 57:59
- You said that you think that requiring women must always know less about the bible than their husbands is an unreasonable restriction
- 58:05
- And a misapplication of the text, okay If you go back and listen, that's not what
- 58:11
- I said I didn't say a woman must always know less than her husband What I said was the implication of the text is that if a woman has a question about the bible
- 58:19
- She should feel her husband or believe that her husband is competent enough to go to him and ask questions
- 58:24
- Now that may seem like i'm saying the husband always has to know more But the point of it is is that is he or is he not competent in the word?
- 58:33
- Right you you mentioned well, what if she has a doctorate in divinity first of all, and this is i'm not trying to be snarky
- 58:39
- I promise a doctorate of divinity is normally not a professional degree It's actually normally a honorary degree.
- 58:47
- So if you see somebody that has dd behind their name normally They didn't earn that but I think what you meant was something like a doctorate of theology or phd and um
- 58:57
- In religious studies or something like that and certainly she would know more Than him going into the relationship but at the same and that would not mean like if if a woman came to me and she had a doctorate in theology and A man didn't have a doctorate in theology.
- 59:12
- Certainly i'm not going to say it's impossible for you to fall in love but I would say as a man
- 59:20
- Do you have a competency in the word of god, maybe not to the level that she does But are you trustworthy to handle the word of god with her and with your children?
- 59:28
- That's the point I was making if your wife Knows about the word of god and you don't
- 59:34
- And this is what I said That's your fault big boy. He can't learn it for you. That was that was really my point
- 59:41
- Is if your wife knows the word and you don't Then how can she ever come to you with a question?
- 59:47
- And you might say well if she has a doctorate of theology, she's not going to ever come to me with a question Anyway, that's probably true.
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- But that's the exception that proves the rule The rule is in general that the husband should be leading in regard to the area of The bible in the home now again if your wife's been a christian for 20 years and you've been a christian for 20 minutes
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- Yeah, there's going to be a difference there I know that but my point in the video was not to say that two such people are incompatible or Unequally yoked or can't fall in love
- 01:00:18
- My my point was to say that a man who has a wife who loves the word and he doesn't know the word
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- He should be seeking to know the word better to be competent in the word because that's part of what it means to be
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- A godly leader. So I hope that's more clarifying as to what I said Um, that's that's more of of what
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- I was trying to get around to it's not a contest I I mean there are things That i'm so thankful that she's better than me at and here's one secret.
- 01:00:47
- Not a lot of people know Much better reader like she is such a great reader. My wife is such a great reader
- 01:00:53
- I have massive amounts of adhd probably some ocd and might be a little asd in there somewhere
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- I don't know. My brain has a lot of issues and so um She can sit down she can read it
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- Four times as fast as I do and I appreciate that. God has given her a mind that is able to do that And I know that I have to work twice as hard Sometimes four times as hard to be able to do the things that she does when it comes to reading but um, but when it comes to the competency in god's word
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- I have used the tools available to me to grow in my competency not just because i'm a pastor
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- But because i'm a husband and a father and I know that she needs that of me She needs me to be a competent leader to be a man who knows the word not necessarily knows the word better than her
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- But a man who knows the word and that's really what I was trying to say in that short video
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- Okay, so I hope that is helpful. It's again. It's not about her knowing less
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- It's about me not remaining in ignorance as a man That just made me just side note real quick think about I think a sermon that I heard one time where it was like if your husband knows, you know, all of these sports facts and You know, you've been a christian for 20 years or so and you're not growing you're still like eating the baby food of the word
- 01:02:15
- You're not like you're not interested in I I don't know it kind of goes along with that too.
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- Like I actually made that It's so funny that you say that because you're not an ex um
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- But I made that post today, I mean it's obviously not unique to me, but I said how many men are or no,
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- I said it would be it would be unheard of for a for a For a for a hunter to know nothing about the forest or a fisherman to not be able to bait a hook
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- But how many christian men? Go 10 20 years as christians and still can't articulate the gospel
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- That's their fault that level of ignorance should not be in the man who's seeking to lead his home
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- That's that's it. That's my point All right So, um, what was what do we see?
- 01:03:06
- I see something about kettle stand. It's a phd in marriage counseling. Oh good Well that that's a blessing then.
- 01:03:13
- Um, I mean, you know education is a blessing intelligence is not a sin
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- Intelligence is a good thing and uh, and we you know, we we we both try to grow and grow together
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- So that that's good. All right. So now Let's go to question number six.
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- Okay This is a long one too Oh, wait, i'll just read the top. Should I leave my credo baptist church if my convictions have changed to pedo baptist?
- 01:03:41
- Okay so This is a this question Again, there's a longer email attached to it and this person again says long time listener first time questioner
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- Um, thank you guys who are the first time questioners. I appreciate you guys wanting to be involved um
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- But basically this person says that he's a young man. He has come to the wrong conviction about baptism i'm saying it and he has he has he has dipped his toe into the
- 01:04:11
- The the labor of pedo baptism and he has found it to be uh the position that he believes and I get it.
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- Um, I disagree with you. I was just kidding when I said, oh you're it's the wrong position It is the wrong position, but i'm not gonna give you a hard time about um
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- Because I know many godly men hold that position and I understand why you hold that position
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- I at least I believe I do I believe I understand why you why you hold that position so um
- 01:04:39
- Here here's here's the the question you you're you ask the question If your convictions have changed on this
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- Then should you be looking for another church? Should you be moving to another church? um
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- And then you talked about this. I did I underlined some things on this you said the church that you're at You said um, you're wrestling with whether or not you should stay in the same church
- 01:05:01
- You've been raised in the church since you were young It's where your family attends. It's where you regularly serve. It's where you were baptized
- 01:05:07
- You have friends there you love your pastor That's a good you need to tell him that if that if that is in fact the case
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- That you love your pastor make sure he knows that because that's an encouragement Um, but you've been drifting more towards the reform camp and by the full reform
- 01:05:21
- You're talking about big r reforms like full -on pato baptist covenant theology all those things
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- And the church that you're in would be more of a macarthur style church and that would mean not only is
- 01:05:33
- Baptism the issue but you're going to learn if you haven't already you're also going to be butting heads with Classic covenantalism versus dispensationalism.
- 01:05:42
- That's going to become an issue So should you leave well? I thought a lot about your question.
- 01:05:49
- I want you to know when I read these I think a lot about them. I thought a lot about your question and um
- 01:05:56
- I think that If if you continue to go on this Trajectory of your of your position um
- 01:06:06
- Then I think your your departure is inevitable, but not necessarily negative
- 01:06:14
- Okay If somebody in my church became convinced of provisionism
- 01:06:22
- Let's just say they became they started listening to latent flowers. They became convinced that latent flowers was correct
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- And as much as I could try to convince them otherwise they were they they They believed what he was teaching was true um
- 01:06:38
- I would expect That eventually that that person would probably not um be able to enjoy continuing to fellowship because they're going to Constantly be challenged with the things that they have now come to believe are true so I think that is where I think
- 01:07:02
- I think if this is the direction you're going I think your departure is Is ultimately inevitable? But you did say something else and I want to read this
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- You said I don't feel any rush to leave. I don't want to be the type of person who changes denominations every couple years
- 01:07:17
- However, I have the desire to go to seminary I know my pastor has hoped I would go to master seminary, but I know that I can't go there in good conscience
- 01:07:25
- Okay again I'm telling you this is the writing is on the wall as they say um scripture says um
- 01:07:37
- But you but it doesn't have to be It doesn't have to be a bad departure. It doesn't have to be a battle brother
- 01:07:44
- I do think you should talk to your pastor If you haven't already you probably have if if you say, you know, you have a good relationship
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- You probably had conversation with him And just let him know this is the direction that you Believe is true and you want to follow your convictions as as well as you can again
- 01:07:58
- I disagree with you on baptism We probably are closer on covenant theology than we are on baptism.
- 01:08:04
- But even then I would have some differences with you so um that that I think you should talk to your pastor and I think you should tell him kind of what you what you wrote here, you know
- 01:08:16
- And and ask him hey if I decided to continue to be here But I wanted to go to rts.
- 01:08:22
- Let's just say rts reform theological seminary Would you would you how would you feel about that rather than going to masters, right?
- 01:08:34
- um Rather than going to masters. How would you feel if I went to rts or if I went to um, uh, westminster
- 01:08:43
- See what he says See what his answer is if he says hey, man, we love you and we'll support you even if you go in that direction we'll continue to pray for you and we want you to hear be here as long as you can until you decide to go to Seminary and become a pastor and then of course your life's going to take you in a different direction than anyway so Do you have any thoughts any additional?
- 01:09:00
- I mean I don't know. I was just thinking like even within in our church. We have some that are convinced like Presbyterians but are able to yeah, there was a press
- 01:09:11
- There was a just so I can tell them the quick story. There was a presbyterian church that was down the street Uh that closed about 10 years ago
- 01:09:19
- It was more than 10 years. It's been like 15 years ago now But but it um when that church closed three of the families that were there came to our church um, and they knew we weren't presbyterian, but they believed you know that we're preaching the gospel preaching the truth and they became active participants in our church and they have lived and loved and fellowshiped and I mean become great friends to us and I'm thankful for those families
- 01:09:43
- But I know that they you know when I preach on The why infant baptism is wrong. I know
- 01:09:49
- I got a few people in the audience who disagree with me. So uh, So i'm willing to deal with it and and they're willing to deal with it and we're willing to love each other through it
- 01:09:56
- The question is he says you're um tilted slightly So maybe yeah
- 01:10:03
- Maybe you'll get tilted back. Maybe you'll fall Maybe you'll fall comfortably in that in that beautiful spot of reformed baptist come to us brother
- 01:10:12
- Come Actually, there's people who would say i'm not reformed baptist. So that's okay.
- 01:10:17
- I don't care. I honestly don't care what people call me uh Keith is fine That works for me.
- 01:10:23
- Your calvinist is good because that's the other way people know me But other than that call me a follower of jesus and that's what matters most
- 01:10:32
- All right. We have uh, two quick ones and we'll be done. We're oh, we're only at an hour 10. So we're doing good
- 01:10:38
- Hey keith should christians expect to sense the presence of god in some way if so in what ways
- 01:10:45
- This is a good question. All of these are so good. I really look forward to friday nights just getting to engage with your questions and and and There's your mom
- 01:10:54
- My mom's on who? My mommy. Hey mommy.
- 01:11:00
- I'm such a child Mom, hey, well i'm glad you're out there. That's cool um
- 01:11:06
- All right, so, uh Let's uh, let's go back to Let's start this question over.
- 01:11:13
- Can you read it one more time? So people can actually hear what you said christians expect to sense the presence of god in some way if so in what ways
- 01:11:21
- This is a this is asking the question if there is a If there is an internal sense of the presence of god for believers
- 01:11:32
- Here here is my answer My answer is Yes But we have to be careful with feelings or sensing things because of the subjectivity that is
- 01:11:53
- Attached to those feelings. I mean think about how many churches? How many churches?
- 01:11:59
- Do people say well, I just feel led and then they say something completely Unbiblical well,
- 01:12:05
- I felt led to tell you tonight that the trinity is not real Well, I don't care how you feel you're wrong, right?
- 01:12:11
- Like that's that you're going against scripture, right? and so You you have to be very careful when you start dealing with the sense experience
- 01:12:21
- Because it is so objective. I mean I I remember I remember, um steven anderson talking to James white about the king james bible and I don't and I don't
- 01:12:34
- It doesn't matter what your position is on the king james bible It doesn't matter what your position is on the the eclectic text or james white or any of that If you listen to that conversation where they were sitting on the couch together, it was a three -hour conversation
- 01:12:45
- I must have watched that three times because I really just learned a lot hearing them talk to each other but one of the things that steven anderson says he said when
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- I hear the king james I know that it's the word of god because I can hear it and I hear the word of god and I know that's the word of god
- 01:12:58
- And when I hear the niv read I don't hear the word of god and james white said but isn't that subjective and don't the mormons say the same thing about the book of mormon don't be don't the um
- 01:13:09
- Muslims say the same thing about the quran, right? You're you're you're making a subjective
- 01:13:16
- Experience into an objective standard And we're not called to do that.
- 01:13:22
- That's not a wise thing to do So here's my answer Should christians expect to sense the presence of god
- 01:13:33
- Yes, but We sense the presence of god through the objective realities that god has given to us
- 01:13:44
- I read god's word and I know that it's god's word because he's told me that it is
- 01:13:51
- When I take the table When I and I eat the bread and I drink the cup
- 01:13:57
- I I am experiencing in the physical a spiritual reality
- 01:14:04
- And and so and I talked about this last sunday I said beloved we're not gnostics We don't believe that matter doesn't matter.
- 01:14:12
- No god gives us the physical To to in that sense experience the spiritual right and so Is there going to be a burning in the loins or burning in the tummy or a burning maybe burning loins?
- 01:14:28
- It's probably the wrong way to say that a burn Oh, I wish the show wasn't live sometimes but a burning like a burning in our heart or burning in our bosom
- 01:14:37
- That's what I was trying to say You know, yes We will experience those and there have been times where I can honestly say
- 01:14:44
- I felt the presence of god right in prayer in in communion
- 01:14:52
- But the but the things i'm told to feel in scripture are objective things
- 01:14:58
- I read the word of god and I know this is the holy spirit inspired word There that's
- 01:15:05
- I can I can know that objectively Whether I feel it or not.
- 01:15:10
- I can know it objectively So I hope that that makes sense um
- 01:15:17
- Don't be concerned if you don't have the same feeling or experience that someone else
- 01:15:25
- May tell you they're having right Um, because I think sometimes especially in hyper charismatic circles there's almost like A competition as to who has the best experience
- 01:15:43
- Like, you know, well I had god, you know Do this in my life and I felt this and this and this
- 01:15:50
- Uh, be careful of that be very careful of that All right last or please trinitarian.
- 01:15:57
- I mean i'm i'm just thinking those kind of movements. They they put too much emphasis on the spirit and not on the how the the other you know, the god the father and god the son work in our lives, too
- 01:16:10
- You know, you said trinitarian. I think you meant charismatic. Yeah. Yeah. I'm, sorry. That's no no. Yeah, you're fine That's this one.
- 01:16:16
- Okay last question Let's just real quick what you were talking about just to clarify there.
- 01:16:21
- There is a truth. I think there there are there's often in in some churches a a focus on on the spirit and the work of the spirit and it almost becomes that the that the spirit is
- 01:16:38
- The the focal point in in jesus is is secondary when the purpose of the spirit according to scripture
- 01:16:44
- Is to testify of christ should be pointing us to christ and the work that he did on our behalf Um, so that that that's kind of what you were were the unbalanced the unbalanced approach absolutely
- 01:16:57
- You articulate it so well, oh well, i'm I love you, and I appreciate what you were what you're saying.
- 01:17:05
- All right, let's let's read the last question of the night Okay Um I know the bible tells us to honor our parents.
- 01:17:15
- It says we are to provide provide for our own I have a friend who came to me for advice He tells me that his dad was a drug and alcohol addict and wasn't around when he was young Now his dad is in a home and can't care for himself
- 01:17:28
- My friend tells me he's the only child that is able to care for him However, he doesn't want to put that burden on his wife.
- 01:17:35
- He wanted to know biblically what he should do I didn't know what to say. I told my wife and she said let's ask keith.
- 01:17:42
- What are your thoughts? First of all, I say I love that i'm i'm
- 01:17:48
- Super humbled that This show has been a help to you guys to the point where a question came up and you said hey, let's ask keith
- 01:17:58
- That I read that in the email And I almost cried and i'm i'm not a big crier But like i'm like i'm thankful that god has been using this this particular show which sort of happened by accident
- 01:18:10
- I was just getting emails and I had to I wanted to answer them and we just started putting the show together based on The fact that emails come in every week.
- 01:18:16
- I mean if the emails stop the show will stop right, but they haven't stopped yet and so um I was very very
- 01:18:25
- Very moved by The fact that you know that it's been helpful to you.
- 01:18:31
- So praise praise the lord for that Praise the lord for that Okay, um a couple things to think about uh one is um
- 01:18:42
- I I want to commend you person who wrote this because you you you actually understood something that a lot of people don't
- 01:18:49
- When when paul says that we are to take care of those who are in our household I do think the context of that the immediate context of that specifically is is is our
- 01:19:00
- Our aging parents like i've talked about this in our church We obviously have to take care of our children take care of our wife
- 01:19:06
- But we also have the responsibility to take care of our aging parent and you mentioned that you said I know the bible tells us To honor our parents. It says we are to provide for our own
- 01:19:13
- That is true. And I think that that That is often something that's forgotten in especially in american society
- 01:19:20
- That we have a responsibility I'll tell you a very quick story My wife and I we moved to callaghan we lived in jacksville for 15 years
- 01:19:28
- Owned a house. We were we were Generally happy there, but we wanted to move to callaghan for two reasons one
- 01:19:35
- We wanted to have some land. We wanted to have we wanted to be out in the woods. We live on a dirt road That's nice And we wanted that except for in the rain
- 01:19:43
- Yeah But we also wanted to be closer to my dad because he's getting older and we wanted to take care of him
- 01:19:49
- Because we knew that he him and my stepmother as they get into their um,
- 01:19:55
- Their 80s which is coming soon that they're going to need us more And so we wanted to be here to be here for them.
- 01:20:02
- We believed that was our responsibility Now You say in this
- 01:20:10
- That this man's father is a is an addict um Wasn't around when he was young and He can't care for himself he's in a home now i'm assuming that means like a an old age home or a
- 01:20:23
- Nursing home a nursing home and he can't care for himself And you're asking what is the responsibility of this man to his father
- 01:20:35
- First of all the responsibility of of of a parent to a child
- 01:20:41
- And a child to a parent Is not based upon That person's
- 01:20:49
- That person's um What's the word i'm looking for Yes, uh
- 01:20:59
- It's yeah, it's merit but it's it's a little different word i'm thinking of it's not it
- 01:21:07
- The love that we're supposed to show to our child is supposed to be unconditional and the love that the child Showing to the parent should should be in one sense unconditional
- 01:21:15
- Meaning they you're not doing it because he earned it you're doing it because of the position that he's in Right.
- 01:21:20
- He's in the position of your father in many ways. He squandered it He lived his life a sinful life and he hurt probably you or or speaking to your friend
- 01:21:29
- He hurt you and he did things that he should not have done But if you are a christian
- 01:21:35
- You you have an opportunity right now To be a witness to your aging father
- 01:21:41
- Of what of what christ is like christ loves the unlovable christ ministers to the person who doesn't deserve to be ministered to christ demonstrates love
- 01:21:52
- And while we were yet sinners christ died for us so, um that extension of mercy
- 01:22:00
- Might be the thing that saves his life in the sense of saving his eternal life Because he may see that act of love in christ and i'm assuming you're friends of christian
- 01:22:09
- I know i'm assuming a lot. I don't know based on this short paragraph everything But I would say to him He cares about scriptures.
- 01:22:15
- He's probably a christian right if he cares about what the scripture says, then I would say to him his father's past transgressions
- 01:22:24
- Do not make him not his father And the extension of mercy and grace to his father Could be an act of love in the gospel
- 01:22:32
- But now i'm going to also step back And i'm going to add another caveat because you mentioned the man's wife
- 01:22:41
- I do believe I talked about this last week the order of amorous right the order of love, right?
- 01:22:46
- It begins with your wife Right. She's the number one I think that he should go to his wife
- 01:22:52
- And I think that he should tell his wife. I have my father. This is the situation It's bad And I think that he should try to encourage her to recognize the situation that he is in And and try to help her to understand
- 01:23:05
- And never neglect her in the service of her of his father Right, like like not neglect her or the children in the service of the father
- 01:23:14
- Now he may have to he may have to do some things and he may There there may have to be some
- 01:23:21
- Compromises made but If she is and it says here, um
- 01:23:28
- What did it say about the wife Doesn't want to burden his wife if his wife sees the father as a burden.
- 01:23:33
- That's a conversation. I think they should have About the responsibility as a christian that we have to our parents
- 01:23:40
- Even if your parent's an unbeliever, even if your parent is not the nicest person in the world um, they are still our parents and extending mercy and grace to them is um, it is is an exercise in in gospel ministry
- 01:23:58
- So I would encourage him to do as much as he could without Neglecting his wife and his his family
- 01:24:06
- You have any thoughts to add? I thought you you said what I was thinking. Okay, don't neglect your family but um
- 01:24:14
- But seek to love your father as best as you can with whatever years god gives him left and uh
- 01:24:22
- I think that's that's really all I can say and I hope that he finds that helpful And I hope hopefully you do as well
- 01:24:29
- All right Miss jennifer. I think we have come to the end of our questions as have you seen any questions come across the screen that might be anything
- 01:24:41
- All right I mean, I I haven't it's been going kind of fast. Yeah a lot tonight and i'm thankful this is one of it's a fun night
- 01:24:49
- Question are you last question of the night? Let's go today. Uh, is it dylan? Dylan asked a great question.
- 01:24:55
- Are you going to the g3 conference this year? I was invited to g3 by virgil walker because he and I preached together at a conference last year
- 01:25:03
- We're going to be preaching again together in april on april the 6th And he said that I was able to come and have a table and uh have my podcast stuff set up So that is the plan lord willing.
- 01:25:15
- I can't guarantee anything. It's a little far out to be making guarantees Uh, because I I am going to be preaching in cincinnati
- 01:25:21
- Like the month before i'm going to be preaching in winter haven the month after so i've got some things going on at that time But as long as the lord opens the doors jennifer and I both are planning actually
- 01:25:31
- We're planning to make it our anniversary trip um, if we We're we're gonna we're gonna be celebrating
- 01:25:39
- On august the first we'll be celebrating 26 years of marriage. And so if my mom who is in the comments
- 01:25:45
- Is able to watch the kids for a couple of days then our plan is to come
- 01:25:51
- She's going to help me run the booth We're going to have it set up just like this And we're going to have our booth set up and hopefully do some interviews with some of the people that are there
- 01:25:57
- And meet folks and uh, and just have a great time. So that's my plan. That's my plan.
- 01:26:03
- Um um Let's let's real quick, uh, somebody maxis
- 01:26:11
- Let's say i'm gonna answer this last question. I'm, sorry I I just I know I keep saying i'm gonna go but I just see new questions last one keith
- 01:26:17
- I'm a dispensationalist or what i'm told But I don't know what that is. What books would you recommend?
- 01:26:24
- Okay Um, if you if you're really interested in knowing the difference between dispensationalism and other views
- 01:26:31
- I I would want to ask you to go to my website keithfoskey .com send me an email max
- 01:26:36
- I'm, just go to keithfoskey .com. You'll see the contact form right there I'll send you a couple of videos to get you started and then i'll also send you some books through there as well
- 01:26:44
- Um, there's different there. There are several books that I would that I would point you to um, but I think
- 01:26:51
- I did a couple videos on the distinctions between dispensationalism and covenant theology Which I think might be helpful for you at least to get you started so you'll have more of a vocabulary
- 01:27:00
- Going into the subject. So send me an email and i'll get you that information All right, guys,
- 01:27:05
- I want to thank you again for watching the show being a part of what we're doing And uh jennifer any final words?
- 01:27:12
- It's just great to see so many familiar Names. Yeah on there that we see See every week.
- 01:27:18
- It's just it's so nice to be out here to be able to do this and Absolutely. It's an encouragement coming out to talk to our friends.
- 01:27:25
- Yeah, it is it is we come to see our friends every week Well guys, we love y 'all and we will see you lord willing
- 01:27:32
- Next for wait a minute next friday night. It's valentine's day And we are doing the show we talked about it.
- 01:27:38
- We're gonna make a special valentine's day show So be on the lookout for that. We're gonna we're gonna have a valentine's day special next week
- 01:27:46
- So come enjoy that with us. May god bless you Good night Sometimes I feel the weight of the world fall down on me
- 01:27:57
- And I need a friendly voice with some good
- 01:28:04
- Theology So I mix a manly drink Then I hit the youtube link
- 01:28:13
- And I feel my troubles all melt away Oh It's your calvinist podcast with keith foskey kids and bow ties
- 01:28:31
- Laughs till sunrise It's your calvinist podcast with keith foskey