Book of Romans - Ch. 6, Vs. 1-8 (01/23/2000)

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Romans the sixth chapter some special Notations in the beginning in this chapter

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Every place you see the word sin Read it sin nature

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Now there's a few places that the nature won't fit, but you'll see that very obviously first verse

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What shall we say then? Shall we continue in the sin nature that grace may abound the throughout this chapter

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The Apostle proves that they who imagine that free righteousness is given to us by him apart or separate from the newness of life is to divide

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Christ into fragments is to deny the word

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Righteousness comes with the new life. That's what it is God forbid how shall we?

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That are dead to the sin nature Live any longer therein the word dead is

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Perfect past tense means a one -time action

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That has The effects forever

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So, how shall we and the we refers to who Russell right

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So, how shall we that are born again and we are dead to the sin nature

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How can we live in the sin nature any longer Dennis it demands a negative answer.

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You just cannot do that live

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How can we live live is imperfect now if the perfect was

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One time forever imperfect would be what did any of you take high school grammar?

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It's an action that continues forever We live and we live and we live and we live

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Until finally just becomes a straight line He says

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God forbid means perish the thought When we're born again, our spirits are put in control of our bodies and our minds in The spiritual dimension we fellowship with God and are conscious of him

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Anyone that is not born again Greg can they comprehend or understand the spiritual truth of the

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Bible No Well, then doesn't it just make sense those that are born again cannot live any longer in the old sin nature

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That's right Now we try to once in a while But really we're not living there

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So David, what does that mean about the real us? What is the real us?

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The new man the righteous man the born -again person That part of you that will go to heaven someday.

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Not the old fleshly body There is no redemption plan for the flesh

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Just as there is no redemption plan for the angels verse 3 know you not

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Now what does he mean Deborah by that statement? No, you not what would we? What would we probably say

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Don't you know? It's common knowledge. Don't you know this? Everybody knows this

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That so many of us or all of us That were baptized and please there's no water connected with this whatsoever

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Into Jesus Christ into means what great?

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outside So you were brought from where you were into something else in this case

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Baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death replaced instead of baptized

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Know you not that so many of us as were placed into Jesus Christ were placed into his death

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Into his death Now when did Russell when did

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Jesus die on the cross? Now understand the spiritual part of him the

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Christ office didn't die the human part died Jesus and it's that same

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Jesus is going to return we're told Now, let's be sure we understand this third verse because it's the key to Understanding your salvation

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Turn to 1st Corinthians the 12th chapter in the 15th verse, please 1st

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Corinthians 12 13 did I say 15? Well erase that go to 13

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Russell read the 13th All right, are we talking about physical or spiritual spiritual

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Now go to 1st Peter 3 21 Greg you read that when you arrive 21

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All right. Now, let's be sure we understand this word baptism.

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I know we've been over before but if you're like me The word baptism

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First of all means circulation Immersed and emers go in and come out

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Let me give you again the full definition of baptize It is the placing of a person or thing from one environment into another environment and Doing it in such a way

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That it changes the state of that person or thing in relation to its former environment

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Russell that's a long definition It simply means placed in two

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Now if you placed a Hymnal back into its rack did the hymnal do it?

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It demanded somebody else to do it didn't it? Well, that's what happens to us.

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We cannot do it Now there's lots of If I was to sprinkle

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Paul, what would I have to do to Paul? No If I was to sprinkle

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Paul if I was to sprinkle water, what would I do? Thank you

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If you're to sprinkle water You you put it in the container you pour it out in the sprinkles

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If you're to sprinkle Paul, you'd have to grind him up and sprinkle him So you can't sprinkle somebody you sprinkle on somebody

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But you can't sprinkle So that's how now you can't dip

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But that word is what I tell you David Apple Am I thinking of dog food?

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Bapto Bapto means to dip and Baptizo means to immerse and leave it until the pickle is changed the cucumbers changed to a pickle it's it's

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Baptizo in a solution and it takes on a different state Same way with baptized now what good is our being baptized?

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David what what's the purpose or what's the good of a child of God?

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Going through the baptismal waters of what?

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All right, can anybody think of any other picture all right

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Now does it do anything to you What does it do anything for you

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I've learned to just wait on her All right now

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Beg pardon. All right

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It saves us from inward questions Saves us from fears provides us with a good clear conscience inward peace before God Because you are demonstrating

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What you believe to be yours through the resurrection of Jesus the

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Christ Has nothing to do with salvation Has nothing to do with getting you clean

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Physically, it has nothing to do except You are publicly making a statement as opal said

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You are publicly making a statement now to us Baptism is not

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Unfortunately that important as it was at the time Paul was writing But go back with me now to that time in history

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If you were a Jew Orthodox Jew You were living under the law you were going to the temple you were doing everything

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According to the law, even though the gospel is here The Christian Church is here, but you're not participating of that.

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You're still living under the law you think How would you an

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Orthodox Jew treat your brother That suddenly become converted and saved and baptized

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David You would probably hold a funeral for him Because to you he's dead.

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He's gone. He loses business his family his money his

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Political stature if any he'd lose everything Now do you see how difficult it would be for this new

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Christian to In the view of all of the

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Orthodox Jews partake of the water baptism

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Making a firm statement to all of them that you now

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Were no longer a Jew as they are a Jew you're different This would cost you something

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Now you could you're saved and nobody knows it Or you act different you look different and you talk different But when it comes to making that public statement by baptism, it would take a very very strong Determined faith on your part to go through with it

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We don't have that problem in this country That's why Baptism has been relegated to something almost unimportant, but I'm to tell you it isn't

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It has nothing to do with salvation. I have to keep repeating that Why was

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Jesus baptized as an example only?

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What? obedience to who Speak up All right.

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What did the baptism do for him? All right

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He did no work until after that something else. All right, but we've already got that answer

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Something else something big Russell Yes All right,

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Brian explain that a little bit more for me Well It had took the seal that God put is the seal on this individual as his son and From now on they're gonna listen to him

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The Holy Spirit Came down upon him and the only way that it could be described

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But those men was that it resembled a dove coming down doesn't mean that's what it was

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But it was a public statement just as ours is Only this was from the man himself

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Jesus the Christ So if he did not have to get baptized to be saved then we must not

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He did not start his public ministry until after that And I've come to believe that if you're really going to be a tool surrender to God First you go through the baptism

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Yes, absolutely So Now in the third verse we read we were

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Baptized in to Jesus Christ Into his death not at his death, but into his death now

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Go to chapter 1 verse 1 of Romans What's that say

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Debbie? All right, we'll deal just with the word servant

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He starts most of his letters like this. I Paul Being a servant of Jesus Christ, that's my words, but that's what he says now

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Opal by the very fact that he said I am a servant of Jesus Christ He was also saying

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I used to be a servant of Satan But I'm not anymore

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And Greg the word for servant here is what there's about six different What do

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Lowe's can you explain to the group what that word means in Greek All right, but what's the process of getting this done well go to Exodus 21 6

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Brian read that for me, please Yes All right

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That's the mechanics of becoming a bond servant now

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The piercing of the year was exactly what you think it is and They would put a ring in the ear perhaps a golden so it would not

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Cause infection and that was to mark him as a bond servant

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Now the custom changed over history sometimes they would be branded

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Sometimes they would put an iron band around their neck maybe on their ankle different ways, but they were marked in a certain way to show that they were a bond servant the bond servant

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Master relationship is what we're after the only way

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That that earthly relationship could ever be broken Was if the servant died or the master died

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Well, that just makes sense if he's a bond servant for life Then when life stops on either side no longer a bond servant so Paul and us being at one time a servant a bond servant.

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We couldn't get out of it to Satan Now, please understand we were only a servant we were never the seed of Satan that's a different category

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But being a bond servant of Satan The only way I can get out of that relationship, which was spiritual there had to be a death

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Either Satan had to die or I had to die well, Satan's not going to die and And Since that was a spiritual relationship,

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I Didn't want to die in that state spiritually, so God took care of it through the language of the

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Greeks and Paul then says I am a bond servant of Jesus Christ Now, how did he or how do we?

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Become a bond servant of Jesus Christ Right there has to be a death and Jesus provided that death on the cross

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That's why we were not put into him in the grave We were not put into him after he died.

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We were put into him at his death We started this

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Christian journey in the death of Jesus Christ Because that was the death

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Greg that broke the old bond servant relationship to Satan So it was mandatory it had to be

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In order for us then to become a bond servant of Jesus Christ Now how long then are we to be a bond servant of Christ or until death?

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Spiritual death Now Russell, are you ever going to die spiritually? Well, we can rule out yours then

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Is our Lord ever going to die spiritually? No Well, then how long we're going to be locked up with him forever

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Because the only way it can be broke is by death And David that's not going to happen

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You see the beauty of the Greek language the understanding of grammar

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We read in the Old Testament where under certain conditions a slave can become a bond slave

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He is never free unless the master dies

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Or he dies Paul says I am a bond servant of Jesus Christ Called to be an apostle.

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That's wrong. He was called an apostle Separated under the gospel the word separate

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Debbie Has two meanings, what are they? What's one?

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All right anyone else well

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Indirectly, maybe But if I separate this watch from this corner, I've got to put it someplace

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So it was separated from here to here. So we separated unto something

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As well as from something Separated always look at the context

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He was separated Unto the gospel means it was taken away for some place and placed into the gospel separated into the gospel

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So it follows that for any bond servant to be loosed from Satan there must be a death

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Here in this verse 3 Paul tells us about that death that released us from Satan.

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I hope you all understand this This is why we all start our walk with the

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Lord by being put into his death Because it was required

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Now Why is it that we could not die? for ourself

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David Why?

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Dennis if a cow is dead, can it die again? then

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What? That's true, but the question was why couldn't we die for ourself it's because we was already dead

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It's impossible It was already dead Yes There's lots of dead people walking around more outside the cemetery than in I never understood why they put a fence around cemetery

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Nobody Nobody in there's gonna get out nobody else wants to go in I guess so All right, someone give me in just a few words, what's the meaning of baptized

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Place into Verse 4 are there any questions now?

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through verses 1 through 3 Ought to be one

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I'm not that good a teacher. She understood it all. All right, let's go on Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death

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That like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father even so we also

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Should walk in newness of life Therefore we are buried.

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Okay. What do you usually bury? dead things

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So are being buried with him we had to be dead didn't

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By the very terms of the word buried. That's the old man Buried with him by this act of baptism into death by being placed into his death

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To help us understand the the passive verb Let me make this statement.

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The boy was hit by the ball Now did the boy do the action or did the ball?

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Okay So it's passive then he was hit by something else he didn't do it

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Baptized same way we can't do it We get hit with baptism

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All right Into death that like as Christ or so that Like as Christ was raised up from the dead

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By the glory of the Father or by the power of the Father or the dunamis of the

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Father Even so we also Shall walk in newness of life

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Then it's what the word walk mean here live Live once a day

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Once a week with every breath isn't it how far are we from from not living

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One breath We were buried in Christ the old flesh dominated nature

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In baptism was buried and the new creature is born free from sin

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Now in verse 6 notice the words change a little bit For if we have been planted

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Now okay, what things do you usually plant? Things that you want to do what?

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grow So you see the beauty here the old man was buried the new man was planted so If we have or since we have been planted

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Together soon soonfotos And you all know what that means

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Together is the word we're looking at planted together Born together

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This word together means this of joint origin grown together united with It's like Siamese twins

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We grow up together with Christ. We were we were planted in Christ and together

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We will walk in newness of life So together means to be born together of joint origin

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Grown together united like Siamese twins. We grow up together

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Now you might say well, how can that be Jesus Christ is full grown? Physically and spiritually well just bear with me a moment

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It is because of this little word together That it causes us to understand how a five -year -old child

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Can be saved and an 85 year old person can be saved

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Because to each one Christ appears at their own age the little word together

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Everybody grows together with Christ Our daughter was saved when she was five, and I'm sure

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I Can't get inside her head, but to her She could see

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Christ as one of her own An old old old man much older than me if he was saved

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He would see Christ as an adult Not as a little bitty child the beauty of the language of this word

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We shall also in the likeness of his resurrection We were placed into him at his death that got rid of the old connection we were

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Buried in him which got rid of the old we were planted in him and when he arose we arose because Dennis were in him

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And we cannot escape that when he ascended back to heaven we went with him Spiritually and we are there now spiritually

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Someday, we'll physically spiritually be there or spiritually physically

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Knowing this verse 6 now That our old man This should read our old man was crucified

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Knowing this that our old man is crucified. It should be was crucified with him

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That the body of sin nature might be destroyed Destroyed is to cause to cease

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Put an end to do away with a null abolish To pass away to be done away to be served severed from separated from discharge from So the old nature is totally destroyed

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It is dead to us Now we're dead to it. It's not dead to us

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Anytime we serve the old nature we have to resurrect it and too many times we try to do that That henceforth we should not serve sin what nature

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You're not going to serve the old sin nature any longer a little later He tells us let us not do this the sin nature shall never again have dominion over your soul never

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It's impossible the Holy Spirit's on that throne And greater is he that is in you than he that is in the world

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Greg who is it's in the world Satan now in verse 8 7 for he that is dead is freed from sin nature

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Just a pure simple statement David But my what power? He that is dead is freed from the old sin nature now

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You are dead to sin. The old man's not here. You're alive in Christ And he has

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Satan has nothing in Christ our old life died in him on the cross

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Now if or since we be dead with Christ We believe that we shall also live with him

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Are we to live? Dennis let me know. Let me ask great Greg are we well,

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I know we're supposed to be obedient. We're supposed to walk in faith We're supposed to live our entire life in such a way that God can really use us

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Is that right? How many would agree with that statement?

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How many disagree? Dennis explained to me what's wrong with it.

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You you weren't listening real close The question is simply we're to are we to live in such a way that the

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Lord can use us That's not what

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I asked That's right

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That's right, do you all understand that It's not up to us

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He doesn't take us and use us because we have certain talents

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When we come to the Lord we come with what? nothing If you're the world's greatest trumpet player, you can't say well now

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I'm going to use my talent for the Lord. That's wrong He may use it.

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He may not but you didn't bring it. You're not the one to say that you're going to use it

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So many people Popular singers have turned to religion and they say now

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I can sing for the Lord Well, let me tell you when you come to the

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Lord you come with zip nothing Nothing at all Then he makes out of you that which he wants

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I'm sure what you said was right. I didn't get it You But You won't bring it in your hands or any other place in your pocket or nothing.

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You come with nothing understand that Now where are we

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We What would

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I say I Would say first praise him don't brag on me brag on God Because I'm a living example of the statement of just me

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All of my early life in school. I hated school. I didn't want school never studied

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English didn't know anything about anything Graduated, but I I didn't care anything about it

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And today my whole life for the last 48 years Has been wrapped up in teaching

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If there was ever anybody ever born that would never be suspected of being a teacher

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It's me Yet, that's what I turned out to be So it's

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God's work in me not me and if you learn anything, it's the Holy Spirit that teaches you not me

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I'm glad that some people feel like that But I don't want them to tell me because that that gives me a very strong opportunity to sin

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And I don't want that Now don't discourage me either Yes, very much

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That's right That's exactly right

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Very important neither does he work through you he works in you

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If it was through you you'd have no responsibility Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more

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Death hath no more dominion over him. I Guess that's the end.

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Is that the end of this death had no more dominion over him There were two deaths of Christ on the cross.

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Can you name them? Paul can you name them?

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All right, there are two deaths in Jesus on the cross.

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The first one is very obvious. It was what? Physical what was the other one?

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Spiritual do you understand the spiritual? Can you quote me a scripture

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Or get close to it where we know that there was spiritual death right

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Absolutely, I heard a well -known large preacher in this town

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Read that and say now. I don't believe God really turned his back on him Believe you me he had to Because he had to come to where we were

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Debbie and we were separated from God He didn't stand outside that door and reach in and get us.

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He come inside So he had to be separated from God so was the physical and spiritual death of Jesus not

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Christ Jesus the man Any questions none at all and we're going to stop what no

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No, he did not go to hell in fact, that's a good question what happened during those three days

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That we thought he was in the tomb That's a good research question look at the activities if you really want to know

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Look at the activity of the high priest in the tabernacle at the day of atonement

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Well, we're going to stop here And we'll begin where well