Philippians 2:12-13 We Are Being Saved

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For those of you who are new here, my name is Spencer. I'm one of the pastors. We would just like to welcome you. We are glad that you've joined us this morning. Hopefully on your way in the door you grabbed one of our little miniature bulletins.

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The first is a giving envelope. We don't pass a plate or anything like that. So if you want to worship the Lord through giving this morning, we would encourage you to take your offering, put it in the envelope, and then you can drop this envelope through the slot in the table in the lobby there.

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We would love to bless you a little bit this morning. So take advantage of that if you are new with us. Besides those things, we've just got a few announcements for you this morning. We have a regular kind of meeting, kind of a get-to-know-you that we do around here with the pastors.

It's called Lunch with the Pastors. So if you're fairly new here at Recast, maybe you've been coming for a month or so and you've never been to one of these, we would like to invite you to our next Lunch with the Pastors event.

It's going to be next Sunday, October 24th, right after the service. They usually start around 1230, something like that. So if you've never gone to one of those, you would like to, we'd love to have you.

Just email office at recastchurch .com and Aaron will get you all the information for that. Also, next Sunday night, if you call Recast Church Home, we would love to have you out for kind of our quarterly family meeting.

That's October 24th, next Sunday again at 7 o 'clock at night right here. So if you're a member or a regular attender, we'd encourage you to come out to that. Two more announcements for you real quick.

We are going to have another church-wide potluck. These are just great fellowship events where you can get to know other people that you might not rub shoulders with on a regular basis. Our next church potluck is going to be November 7th, right after the service.

We'd encourage you to sign up via the app, or you can also sign up by going to the website for kind of a dish to pass, something to bring. So we encourage you to take advantage of that. And then finally, here at Recast, we love to do baptisms, but we don't regularly have them kind of just scheduled every two months or something like that.

So if you've been thinking about baptism, maybe the Holy Spirit's been nudging you to get baptized, we would love to have you reach out to us through the app, and we'd love to get in touch with you and schedule a baptism.

So those are just a few things I wanted to make you guys aware of this morning. Once again, thanks for coming. This morning, it's kind of the Spencer show, I guess. I hate being up here one thing after the next, but Don is at the men's retreat in Barakal up in northern Michigan, and so I'm going to preach this morning.

So we're just going to jump right into a brief introduction of our text this morning. This morning, I'm going to leave the Song of Songs things for Don. I'm not brave enough to tackle that. Yeah, a little break.

How about that? So this morning, we're going to be in the book of Philippians. If you want to start to turn there, we're going to be in Philippians chapter 2. So go ahead and turn there if you have a Bible.

We're going to look primarily at verses 12 and 13 this morning, but as we read the text to get started, I want to read verses 9 to 13 just to give you a little more context. The concept that we're going to be talking about this morning is a fancy theological term called sanctification.

Don't get scared. When we use fancy terms around here, we explain them. So all that really means is to become more like Christ or to become more holy. This is a concept that a lot of people are confused about in Christianity.

How do we become more like Christ? What is God's role in that? What's our role in that? Do we have to be perfect? I sin. What do I do when I sin? All those types of questions that revolve around, really, how you live the Christian life are tied up in this concept of sanctification.

So we're going to take that up this morning through a verse-by-verse exposition of Philippians chapter 2, verses 12 and 13. So if you have a Bible, let's go ahead and read those texts this morning. If you haven't brought one, the text is up there on the screen for you.

All right. Philippians chapter 2, starting in verse 9. Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father.

Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, so now, not only is in my presence, but much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling, for it is God who works in you, both to will and to work for his good pleasure.

All right. Before Dave and the band come up to lead us in worship this morning, let's pray. Lord, we are so thankful to be gathered here together as a local expression of your body. Lord, I pray that as we open your holy and inspired and authoritative word this morning, that it will just cultivate our hearts, that your Holy Spirit will work through us to make us more into your image.

Lord, this text is such an encouraging one for me because it promises us that you are at work in us, that what might seem like a large uphill battle to become more and more like Christ is not something we have to undertake under our own strength, but rather it is a journey that you initiate in our hearts and that you continue on to completion.

So, Lord, for that we are thankful. We are thankful for your Spirit that dwells inside of us, that convicts us and motivates us to be more like Jesus. And so this morning, Lord, I pray that we would have ears to hear and attentive hearts to listen as your Holy Spirit speaks to us through this inspired word.

We are so thankful for Jesus and his death on the cross and the salvation that has been offered to us. Lord, it's that salvation that gives us a basis to become more like you. And I just pray that your Spirit will make these truths come alive for us this morning.

Lord, as we worship you, I pray that we will just have hearts that are listening for your truths to come through these songs. We are so thankful for this team that is leading us this morning. I pray that you bless their efforts as they point us toward your cross.

We pray all this in Jesus' name. Amen. All right, you can all have a seat. But just as a reminder, as I talk, if you guys feel free to get up, grab some coffee, some donuts, if there's any left in the back, help yourselves.

Knowing Where You Want to Go but Not How to Get There

Not much will distract me. I was supposed to preach this sermon back in July, and some people, we had publicized it, and some people, and then I wasn't here all of a sudden. And everybody was like, well, what happened to Spencer?

We had our daughter that weekend, unexpectedly. So that's why we didn't do this in July, and we're doing it today. But that's exciting. We now have almost a three-year-old daughter this week. So that's fun.

But this morning, we're going to be in Philippians chapter 2. So if you have a Bible, go ahead and turn there and keep it open this morning. I like to go back to the text over and over again so that you guys, hopefully, can see what I'm trying to bring out of the text.

But in order to get started this morning, I just wanted to ask you guys a question. I kind of want to show of hands, but how many of you have ever been in a situation where you knew where you wanted to go, but you didn't know how to get there?

Anybody? Hey, that's more than I would have thought, right? With Google Maps, you can get anywhere you want nowadays, right? But, yeah, that happens occasionally, right? Well, two weeks ago, I was in the mountainous desert of Nevada hunting pronghorn antelope.

And Nevada is really wild. It's desert, but it's high-elevation stuff. And to make a really long story short, I was chasing this group of antelope around all day long. And I mean all day long. I was going up and down and around and here and there and everywhere.

And I'm out of shape, and so I was exhausted. But by the end of the day, all I knew was that I was miles and miles and miles from my truck, and I was over 1 ,000 feet higher in elevation than when I started.

And so I'm standing there at the top of this mountain, and dark as like right now. I mean it is right around the corner. It's about to be pitch black, and I'm standing there, and I got about a 65-pound load on my back.

And I'm like, man, I know where the truck is. I know it's way back to the north in the middle of this valley, but I have no idea how to get there. And so not only is it going to be dark, but I ran out of water five hours earlier.

So I'm here in the desert. I got this huge load on my back, and I'm like, all right, how am I going to get from here to there without either dehydrating or slipping and breaking my leg? And I'm trying to contemplate this as it gets dark and figure out what's the best route to get.

The problem was I hadn't really paid attention on my walk in there. I was so focused on what I was doing that I don't know how to get out of there and take the best route possible. And if you guys have ever done any serious hiking before, we got anybody that hikes?

Some of you, right? If you've ever gone hiking before, there's two things that really are pretty crummy when you're hiking, right? The first is to go down. Going down is a lot harder than you would think because it's very hard on the joints, in your knees and in your ankles, right?

So you want to go down a hillside that you can kind of switch back, you know, walk this way and then walk this way and then walk this way. If you go down too steep, it really leaves you in a lot of pain.

So you want to avoid steep faces. And then the second thing is more demoralizing than anything else, but if you don't pick your route while going down, you can find yourself in one of these situations where you are going down a couple hundred feet just to find out that now you've got to go up a couple hundred feet more to go back down again.

And that's just crummy when you're tired and beat up. So I start hiking and I don't know where to go. And I'm really like, okay, I've got to get out of here. I told my wife I'd get out alive, right, which she is hoping for, right?

But I don't know what to do. I know where I want to get, right, but I don't know what way to go. And depending on if I pick the wrong route, I'm going to wind up in a very bad situation, right? And so as I was thinking about that and I was thinking about this text this morning, I think that happens a lot in the Christian life, right?

We know where we want to go, right? We know that we want to be more like Jesus. That's the goal. That's the destination. But a lot of us don't know how to get there. And if we take the wrong route or we go on the wrong journey, we can wind up finding ourselves in some pitfalls that aren't helpful and can be discouraging and leave us in a place where ultimately God doesn't want us to be.

I think the problem for a lot of us is that when we don't understand, we know where we want to go, right? We don't understand how to get there because we don't know what our role is in this journey of the Christian life.

And we don't know what role God plays in the journey of the Christian life. And so we have a tendency to take bad routes on the journey. We either believe that our striving and our energy, especially in spiritual disciplines, makes us acceptable to God to some degree, right?

And allows us to earn credit with Him. Or we believe that God loves us unconditionally because He's declared us as righteous and forgiven and free from condemnation in Christ. And we acknowledge those truths and then think, because of all that, we can live loosely in regards to our obedience.

And what I want you to realize this morning is that neither one of those is the right route. Neither one of those is the right journey. There is a better way. And that is that Christ expects us, God expects us rather, to pursue Christlikeness.

And this expects is not like a wishy-washy thing. It's not okay if you don't meet this. This is a requirement. It's a demand, right? God expects us to pursue Christlikeness, but He also enables us to do it.

So that's the truth that we're going to unpack this morning in Philippians in verses 12 and 13. And just to refresh your memories, I would like everybody to turn there. And we're going to read those two verses again before we start to really dig into them.

Philippians 2, verse 12. Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, so now, not only is in my presence, but much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. For it is God who works in you both to will and to work for His good pleasure.

Justification, Sanctification, and Glorification

Verse 12 is one of the most important verses in the Bible for understanding how human effort in the Christian life relates to salvation and the sovereignty of God. However, this text is also very confusing for a lot of us, right?

If you look at verse 12 there, you're going to notice that Paul is commanding the Philippians to work out their salvation. And he says to do that with fear and trembling. And this word work out here literally means to produce, to produce or to bring about, or to cause to happen.

So you could translate the sentence as bring about your own salvation. Does that fire any red flags in the air for people? Right? It should for a lot of us. So we're going to try to unpack that this morning.

As a good evangelical, you're going to believe, right, that salvation is by grace alone, through faith alone, in Christ alone. We know that we don't work for our salvation, right, rather it is a gift from God.

Romans chapter 4 verse 5 says that God saves the one who does not work but believes in Him. So I think the automatic question then becomes what does Paul mean when he says work out your salvation? I think the easiest way to understand this is to think of salvation as having really three stages.

And theologians give each of these stages a different name and they're all time oriented. We're not going to dive into a lot of the weeds there because a lot of you may be familiar with those stages. But I do want to briefly define each one of them and give you kind of a corresponding verse as an example.

So the first stage of salvation is in the past tense. It's often referred to as justification, right? A lot of us have heard that term. That's what we commonly think of when we think of someone being saved, right?

Because that's what happens the moment a person places their faith in the work of Jesus Christ. It's a judicial act of God in which He forgives the sins of the person, removes their guilt, removes the penalty for their sin, imputes to them the righteousness of Christ, and then sets them apart to Himself.

We see this stage of salvation referred to in Ephesians chapter 2 verse 8, where Paul says,. So that's the first stage of salvation. The second stage of salvation is what we might more broadly call sanctification.

But more specifically, you'll often hear it referred to as progressive sanctification. And this is the process of a person being saved. This is where the sermon gets the title from. It's the idea of becoming more holy, actually and practically becoming more holy.

It's the outworking of the positional holiness that you receive in justification or initial salvation. You know, we talked about justification. Justification is the deliverance from the penalty of sin.

You might think of sanctification as the ongoing deliverance from the power of sin. So we have delivery from the penalty of sin first, and now we have deliverance from the power of sin second. You're progressively becoming more and more like Christ.

And this stage occurs in the present time. We see this in 1 Corinthians chapter 1 verse 18. Paul writes,. If you are being saved, it is the power of God. And then the third stage of salvation, the future stage, is what we might call glorification.

Glorification occurs at the coming of Christ when we will receive our glorified, resurrected bodies. And it involves being saved from the presence and the pollution of sin. Being saved from the presence and the pollution of sin.

I want to show you this in Romans chapter 13 verse 11. Paul writes,. For salvation is nearer to us now than when we first believed. Here, when he says when we first believed, he's referencing that first stage of salvation, justification.

But he's looking forward here to a salvation that's yet future. A salvation that's closer now than it was when he first got saved. And here he's looking forward to glorification, this final stage of salvation.

So to kind of put a bow on all of that and to summarize it for you, I think we could say that biblical salvation is a three-stage process occurring in the past, present, and the future, whereby a person is delivered from the penalty of sin, from the power of sin, and then from the presence and the pollution of sin.

So what I want to do is use that definition as a framework and go back to Philippians chapter 2 here in verse 12, where it says, work out your own salvation. I think we can clearly understand this working out or this bringing about of salvation, not as a reference to the first stage, but rather a reference to the middle, the present time stage of salvation.

And for the rest of the morning, what I want to do is explore some truths about this idea of sanctification that are revealed to us in these verses. So the first thing I want you to notice about sanctification is that sanctification is a response to Christ where we commit to be more like Him.

It's a response to Christ where we commit to be more like Him. I want you to look back with me to kind of draw this truth out. We're going to look at verse 5 and give ourselves a little bit of context here.

Paul tells the Philippians, Have this mind among yourselves, which is yours in Christ Jesus, who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied himself by taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men, and being found in human form, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross.

Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father.

And then notice our verse starts with the word, therefore. So as we think about that section of verses, I want you to notice what the verse says, right? What did Christ do? He emptied himself. He became a servant.

He humbled himself. He was obedient to the point of death. And because of all of that, God highly exalted him. So what we see here is a response of God to the work of Christ. Jesus came to earth, right?

He lives his perfect life. He dies to pay the penalty for sin. And God responds to that work by exalting him and bestowing on him the name that is above every name, which is really cool. But there's also a response that we're supposed to have to this work of Christ.

Notice what Paul says here. He begins verse 12 with, therefore. And I think the therefore here at the beginning of verse 12 is looking back to that work of Christ and introducing for us a response. Now, there's a lot of extra phrases here in verse 12.

And so I want to cut a few of them out so you can see the main thrust of this response to the work of Christ. He says, therefore, my beloved, work out your own salvation. That's the response that you and I are supposed to have to the work of Christ.

And the idea is that because Christ came and he lived this perfect, sinless life and he died for you, you now have a responsibility to respond by working out your salvation. And we talked about how the working out of our salvation is this idea of becoming more holy, right?

Becoming more like Christ. And so the first thing that I want you to grasp about sanctification this morning is that idea that it's a response to Christ where we commit to be more like him. The goal of sanctification then is Christ-likeness.

Back in the late 80s, and this study seems to have been contradicted a little bit over time, but I think you'll get the point I'm trying to make. Back in the late 80s, the University of Michigan conducted a study and found that couples who were married for longer than 25 years began to look alike, especially in their facial features.

Even if the couple didn't have much resemblance at their wedding day, they showed some resemblance in their facial features later in life. And it was interesting, the researchers in this particular study found that the happier the couple was, the greater the increase in facial resemblance.

And their conclusion was that the change was due to decades of apparently shared life emotions and experiences and similar lifestyles. And I think that's a good illustration for the Christian life, right?

If we commit to being more like Christ, the more that time goes by, the more we should increasingly resemble him, right? Our lifestyle should reflect his, our emotions should reflect his, and our thinking should reflect his thinking.

And as you spend more time with the Lord, the Holy Spirit will shape your heart and your life will look more and more like Christ's. There's also a challenge here to us in this idea, I think. And that is that if we say we're Christians, then we will not stay the same, right?

That's a biblical truth. And the challenge is that if there's no growth in holiness in your life, then there's a good chance you're not safe. And we have to seriously examine ourselves and think about that.

I think over time we become more and more sensitive to realities. I was listening to a preacher this week, and he's kind of a revivalist type of guy. And he made the observation that when they go into churches and they do revivals and they call for repentance and all these things, he says, interestingly enough, usually the people that come forward are the 60-year-olds who have been walking with Christ for 40 years and are broken over, you know, what we wouldn't even notice in their lives.

And yet the backroom Baptist who is at the bar next week who really needs to come forward never comes forward. And I think that's a good picture of sanctification, is that the longer you walk with Christ, the more the Holy Spirit is going to work in your life and make you sensitive to what is not glorifying to God.

And that's a result, I think, of a constant submission to the Word and to the Spirit where the Word and the Spirit are working together to mold us and to change us into the likeness of the Savior. So that's the goal of sanctification.

Sanctification as Lifelong Obedience

The second thing I want you to know about sanctification this morning is about the nature of it. Sanctification is a lifelong obedience. Sanctification is a lifelong obedience. Let's look a little bit closer here at verse 12.

And once again, I want to take out a clause here to make it a little easier to follow what we're focusing on here. He writes, Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, so now work out your own salvation.

And that small phrase there, so now, makes a connection between the idea of the Philippians' previous obedience when Paul was with them and their current exhortation to work out their salvation. The working out of the salvation really is expanding upon the idea of obedience.

And so essentially what he's saying here is that we should respond to Christ with obedience, which is the working out of your salvation. And I think implied in all of that is the idea that our obedience is modeled after that selflessness, that humility, the obedience of Christ that we saw at the beginning of the chapter, right?

But often when we think about obedience, we often kind of have a negative connotation of it, right? We think of it as an obligation usually to some set of rules that we often begrudgingly follow out of fear of punishment, right?

But that's not what Paul has in mind here. The word obedience here is a compound word, and it means to place oneself under what has been heard. To place oneself under what has been heard. So in that sense, it's the application of truth.

Obedience is the application of truth. So sure, there are times where it might mean that we shouldn't do something, but I think it's broader than that. It's going to carry with it the idea of be like this as well as we study these texts and apply them to our lives.

So it might be be like Christ, be compassionate, serve those in need, love those around you, demonstrate humility by putting others' needs before your own, right? That's the idea of applying truth. Now, that understanding of obedience I think can ease some of the tension that we feel between grace and obedience, but it doesn't eliminate it.

So in an attempt to kind of scratch that surface, there are a few things that I want you to notice about this obedience that is commanded here before we dive more into the relationship between God's grace and obedience.

So the first thing I want you to notice about obedience from this text is that our obedience, no matter how hard we try, will be imperfect. This is so important. No matter how hard you try, your obedience will be imperfect.

Scripture portrays a believer's relationship to sin in a multicolored fashion. We are portrayed both as sinners who are completely forgiven and stand accepted and loved by God, and at the same time, we are portrayed as saints who continue to struggle with sin.

And that's something that's taught in this passage. The word work out here is defined by one New Testament scholar as continuous, sustained effort. And he defines it that way because it's used in the present tense here.

And when Greek present tenses are used, they're used to imply ongoing action rather than kind of a once-for-all action. And so this working out, this pursuit of holiness is an ongoing process because it can't be perfected.

That's why theologians call this progressive sanctification, right? We see this idea, I think, of imperfect obedience and sending saints all over the New Testament, all over the New Testament. Here's just a couple quick examples.

Ephesians chapter 4, verses 22 to 24. To put off your old self, which belongs to the former manner of life and is corrupt through deceitful desires, and to be renewed in the spirit of your minds, and to put on the new self, created after the likeness of God in true righteousness and holiness.

Now, without going into the weeds a whole lot here, I've studied this text, wrote a paper on it in seminary, and what I want you to remember is that the putting off here and the putting on here is also presented in the present tense.

It is an ongoing, continual thing for the Christian life. It's not just something that happens at salvation. It happens throughout your walk with Jesus. You need to continually put on and you need to continually put off.

The second text I want to show you is in Hebrews chapter 12, verses 1 to 2. He writes,. Therefore, since we are surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses, let us also lay aside every weight in sin which clings so closely, and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us, looking to Jesus, the founder and perfecter of our faith.

So, the putting on and the putting off, and the laying aside of the sin that clings so closely to us, and instead looking to Jesus, those are examples of progressive sanctification. Because we have a sin nature, nobody is going to lay aside sin perfectly.

This side of heaven, nobody's going to do that. And that is a theological truth. If you have to cement in your mind, if you want to have a realistic expectation of how to interact with other Christians, nobody lays aside every sin perfectly before they die and meet Jesus.

But, there's a fine line here, though, as we think through this. We don't want to emphasize imperfection to the point where grace abounds and abounds. But, in our emphasis of obedience, we don't want to create an artificial guilt complex for people.

Why? Because there's no condemnation for those who are in Christ, which means that they're not going to be held guilty before God for their past, their present, or their future sin. But I think by grasping that the Bible does indeed portray us as sinning saints, we can keep from distorting grace, and at the same time prevent people from having a guilt complex.

So that's the first thing that this text teaches us about obedience, is that it's going to be imperfect. The second thing I want you to notice about obedience this morning is that obedience is not circumstantial.

Obedience is not circumstantial. If you flip back there to chapter 2, verse 12, one of the clauses that we crossed off earlier, referencing their obedience, Paul writes, Paul's giving them a commendation here.

Essentially, he's saying, hey guys, I love you. You were really good when I was there at being obedient. But even when I'm gone, even when your circumstances change and I'm not there to correct you and to teach you and to encourage you, there's still the expectation that you're going to be obedient to Christ.

And you just think for a moment, why does Paul have to remind him of that? Why does he have to remind them to still be obedient even though he's there? I think he has to remind them of that because both them and us are influenced to some degree by the power of sin.

We're influenced by the power of sin. And because we have a sin nature that we're going to be battling with for our entire lives, we are inclined to be self-justifying, to blame circumstances or other people when we fall short of God's glory, right?

We've all done that. And here Paul's saying, hey, you can't do that. Even if I'm not there to encourage you and keep you going in the right direction, even when your circumstances change, you still have to pursue this obedience.

I remember when I got saved, I spent a lot of time with two different groups of people. The first, I would spend time with Christian friends and I would spend time with non-Christian friends. And when I was with my Christian friends, I often made really good godly choices, right?

The fruit of the Spirit was apparent in my life. I was growing in holiness. But when I was a new Christian here and I wouldn't hang out with my Christian friends and I'd hang out with my non-Christian friends, I made some really bad sinful choices that weren't honoring to God.

And I would find myself justifying that behavior by saying, hey, you know, I was just peer pressured. I just did that because I wanted to fit in, right? And yeah, sure, that may be true on a human nature level, but Paul says that should not be, right?

Our sanctification wells up from our regeneration, the fact that we have a new birth and we have a new nature, and God expects us to be obedient regardless of where we find ourselves and what circumstances we find ourselves in.

Our obedience should flow from our regenerated hearts and from our love for God. But we also have to recognize that we have a sin nature, right, that dwells inside of us. So I think in wisdom, Paul is recognizing here that certain circumstances provide temptation, right?

When he's not standing there telling the Philippians what to do, there is a greater temptation that they're going to do what their sin nature wants them to do, right? You guys tracking with me? So I think in very practical terms here, sometimes obedience might be changing your circumstances, right?

I think of it in the sense of like obedience to fleeing temptations, right? Jesus has told us, flee from temptations. Sometimes changing our circumstances is doing that. Now, thinking back to the illustration I gave, I think in that situation, I was often setting myself up for failure.

My buddy would call me, hey, you want to hang out on Friday night? And what do unsafe people do on Friday night? They go to the bar. Yeah, sure, I'll come along. You go along as a new Christian having been saved for a couple of months and go to the bar, good things usually don't happen, right?

So I think that in wisdom, I should have drawn some boundaries, right? Probably would have been fine for me to hang out with those guys if the guy would call me in the morning and say, hey, Spencer, you want to go play around the golf?