WWUTT 1025 Q&A 3 Letters, 24 Elders, and 500 Brothers?

Mail as a Simple Act of Christian Encouragement

What can be godly about sending mail to someone? Who were the 24 elders in Revelation 5? And after his resurrection, did Jesus appear to 500 brothers? Or were they 500 men and women? The answers to these questions when we understand the text.

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Here once again is Pastor Gabe.

Thank you, Becky. You're welcome. Being Friday, we take questions from the listeners, and you can send your questions to whenweunderstandthetext at gmail .com or through the mail, yes, snail mail, send it to First Southern Baptist Church, 1220 West 8th Street, Junction City, Kansas, 66441.

Today, we have quite a bit of mail. We do. It's exciting. Like literal mail. Yes. Snail mail. Real mail you get in your mailbox. Yeah. My favorite kind. Not digital mail, but actual mail.

I actually love checking the mailbox, but I hate checking my email.

Yes, I know. Because on your phone, it says you have 11 ,842 unchecked messages. I've looked at them.

I've breezed over. Most of them are junk mail anyway. I just don't take the time to delete them all. Then delete them. I know. I know.

I know. You need one of those. I think there's an app you can add where it's like a Nuke delete or something like that. Just totally wipes out your inbox.

But the problem with that is I'm saving on to some of those emails that are from like, I think one of them's from Mimi, and one of them's from people that won't ever email me again.

Well, print them off and put them in a book. Well, there's that. I bought you a printer for a reason.

Yeah, but this was like years ago. Then go find them. And you just recently bought me the printer.

And I mean, you just leave them on your phone or in your email inbox or whatever. Yeah, yeah. Moving on. So our snail mail over here. So, yes, we got some mail in the mail. Uh-huh. And one of them was a package from Australia.

Yes. We opened this package while we were at church, and there were people that knew what was in the package. Yes. We got to Friday last week, and we decided not to do that package. And so then on Sunday at church, there were people asking me, hey, wait, you didn't open your package.

Yeah, you didn't do it. But I'm glad we waited because we actually got more mail. Yes. In between. So now we can do kind of like a program that centers around all of the snail mail. Mail mail we get. Mail mail.

That sounds so weird. Well, if it comes just to me, it would be mail mail. M-A-L-E-M-A-I-L. But it's not just to me. It's to both of us. Aw. I'm going to start with this beautiful little card right here.

A Letter About Writing Cards and Encouraging Shut-Ins

Oh, that's really pretty. This is from Eileen, and it has Psalm 27 1 right on the front. The Lord is my light and my salvation, the strength of my life. I like the lighthouse. And then a beautiful little lighthouse picture.

And some people think this stuff is like kitschy and cheesy. I love this. I do, too. I'd buy a bunch of these cards. She actually tells us how we can buy these cards. Oh, neat. In this card. Cool. She tells us about it.

Okay, so here's what she says. Dear Becky and Gabe, I'm behind on my podcast, and yesterday heard one from July where you talked a bit about mail. Becky mentioned not liking it when your mail carrier drives by without stopping.

You remember that? Yes. Okay. Yes. I am a mail carrier. Oh, awesome. So many people wait. So many people complain, especially senior housing facilities. Everyone, well, perhaps 92 of the people that I've interacted with want a non-bill.

They want non-political mail. Elderly especially just want to be thought of. We all do. However, be honest. How many letters have you written recently? Yeah, so guilty. We are so quick to text or message people, but few sit down and write.

Please use your platform to encourage a simple action. If everyone sent one person a letter, then one to two days later, all those people are encouraged. Spread smile and joy, especially to shut-ins.

Send a thank you, a simple hi. Tell them how you are praying for them or just let them know that you are thinking of them. Include a track, perhaps. Write a verse on the envelope, maybe. Whatever. If you like getting mail, please try sending mail.

It brings me joy to see someone happy to see a real note in their mail. So in many cases, you brighten the day of two people. That's awesome. Eileen's day and whoever she's giving mail to. Simple things go far and people don't like to take the time.

Please encourage that more. This card was in a pack from Dollar Tree. Nice. Eight for one dollar. Eight of these little cards for a buck. I have actually done that. And you get a little Bible verse cards like this at Dollar Tree.

Yep.

How about that? Yeah, it's really neat.

And you would also be supporting local commerce. That's right. And not buying from Amazon, but visiting your local Dollar Tree. You don't have to spend a lot or be fancy. Thank you for your podcast and writing with me out there.

I listen to some of yours, Wretched, some audiobooks, Pandora for Music, because I can't stand radio anymore. I'm with you there. There's a reason why I left radio. Yeah. You help encourage me on the way.

Thank you both. Hope you enjoy your day. Eileen. Oh, that is so sweet. She got all that in this little card. So I appreciate that, Eileen. And as I was reading that, yes, so convicted. Yeah. So convicted.

I can send a little card like this. How much would it take to just get a little card like this? Yep. I have cards like that.

Write a little note in there. I have stockpiled cards. I know you have. And stamps. So we have everything at our fingertips. We just don't do it. Except for the time. That's right.

We haven't been doing it. We don't take the time. This is going to be a new family activity. Yes. We're going to sit down. Finally. And we're going to write some cards together. I'm so excited. Yes.

I wrote my grandma once. And she actually felt so guilty about not writing me back that I feel guilty about sending her another card. Well, don't talk anybody out of it. But at the same time, I'm actually thinking about just continuing to send her a card every week or maybe even every other week.

Depends on how it fits. But just saying, you know, I'm thinking about you. I love you. You know, that kind of thing. Because her schedule and my schedule, I don't think they add up very well. Because every time I call, she's out.

So I think that would be really cool.

As connected as we think we are. Right. Sometimes that connectivity can remind us that we're actually really quite disconnected. Very.

From one another. Yeah. I mean, everybody's sitting in the same room looking at their phones rather than each other. That's true. So that right there says disconnect. Yes. I love this. I love that she sent that.

Thank you. It's a great idea, Eileen. And I was convicted by it. Just taking a little bit of time to reach out to someone. We do have shut-ins at our church. And we have people that are taking care of them.

Yes. But it's not always easy for me to get out. And yeah, like, you know, like Becky said, having a schedule that lines up with theirs. Yeah. To go over to their house when they're not napping. Right.

You know, something like that. But being able to take the time and write a card. Have I even gone that far? Yeah. So I think that's a terrific idea. That's beautiful. And we can know that we're even brightening a mail carrier's day.

That's right. When we're sending somebody a little personal note.

And you can even call your local retirement home. Yeah. The local retirement home. Right. That's what they're called.

I always use the wrong term. You can get a list of the people that are there and say, hey, if I wanted to send cards to everybody there, our church wants to write cards to everybody. Right. Because they love when the kids come over from the church.

Yes. And they have so many activities.

Like ours here in town, they have a scheduled out activity time where the kids are welcome to come join them for their craft time or their game time and stuff like that. They actually really love to have visitors.

Yeah.

I highly encourage it. They're very open with wanting to let you know, yeah, here's who all of our residents are. So if you want to have your kids at the church, write cards, design cards for them and send them to them, they would love to participate with you in that.

They really do a great job with that. This next card here, I wanted to start with that one because that kind of fits our mail theme for today. We need a mail song. Here's the mail, it never fails. No, not that one.

It makes me want to wag my tail. Oh my goodness. When it comes, I want a whale. I want a whale. This is true. I do want a whale. We got a package, as I said at the very beginning. And this comes from Elizabeth in South Australia.

I kind of knew what was in this package. She didn't tell me she was sending me a package. It didn't alert us to this at all. But nevertheless, when I got a package from Australia, I knew. I just knew there was a certain thing that was going to be in this package.

And sure enough, it was. Yes. So she says to Pastor Gabe and Becky and family, we ought to be sharing this with the kids as well. We should. We'll do it tomorrow. Just a quick hello from Australia to say thank you for the blessing that you guys are.

My long commute to work is made so much better with your company. Elizabeth, P .S. If y 'all haven't eaten Vegemite before. And then she included it in the package. Pro tip, toast, butter, a scraping of Vegemite.

Don't put it on like jelly or jam until you're used to it. I can send you a video demonstration. Well, Becky and I went ahead and watched a video demonstration of somebody doing Vegemite. It was actually a video with Hugh Jackman.

And Hugh Jackman, the actor from Australia. And Becky didn't know who Hugh Jackman was. I'm sorry. If you follow us on Twitter, then you know that whole exchange, what happened there. Anyway, so we've got some Vegemite.

I have apologized.

And yet tonight I was about to say his name wrong. I still need to go back and learn. What was his name? I was going to say Jack Human or something. Jack Human.

So this is Vegemite. And I have had this before. It was over 20 years ago. And there's a reason why I haven't had it in 20 years. But we have some other things in here, too. We've got these lovely caramels.

Now, they're Jersey caramels. So Jersey caramels came from Australia. Okay. I have no idea. I'm sure they're not made in New Jersey. They're packaged in South Australia. Yeah. 100 Australian owned. There you go.

But yeah, they're called Jersey caramels. And then we have these Tim Tams. Which is like a little chocolate cookie. And these are fruit chocs.

I'm missing the Australian accent. Fruit chocs. Delightfully unexpected. There we go.

Oh, sorry. That was way too Cockney. That was more like Bert from Mary Poppins. Try again. I was even watching an Australian movie recently. And I can't find my Australian accent. Put you on the spot.

I'm sorry. Goodbye, mate. Delightfully unexpected. Fruit chocs. I don't know if that worked or not. But anyway. And then this black licorice. Black licorice is the same no matter what continent it comes from.

I'm not going to eat that. I'll try it. You can give it to your mom. Because you said your mom likes black licorice. But I have to share it with Aria. Oh, does she like black licorice? Yes, Aria loves black licorice.

I think I remember you telling me that. Yes. She's our four-year-old. Yeah, the four-year-old. She loves it. Try it with Raya, too. She'll eat just about anything. Just about. And she'll also tell you if she doesn't like it, too.

And if I remember right, she didn't really care for the black licorice. She wanted to. She really wanted to like it.

She wanted to. She tried it. She was like... I don't know, anything that looks like a black hole. I don't think I want to... I don't think I want to ingest. Vegemite is not quite a black hole. But it's pretty dark.

Okay, I'm opening this jar here. Hang on.

I don't want to smell it. I want to taste it before I smell it.

So we've pre-made some toast here. We're going to spread this on some toast. You're going to trust me to do this? No. I'm going to give this a shot. I'm going to give it all over my computer here. Yes, you are.

And your Bible, too. Just a little. Just a little tiny bit. I'm going to spread it on the corner of the toast there. There you go. There's yours. Alright, thanks. I'm going to make some for me. We'll eat it at the same time.

We've also brought bottles of water down.

We have. Just in case. We're kind of prepping ourselves here. Now, Vegemite... I can't remember what's in it. We're going to read the ingredients first. Before we try this.

What am I doing? I'm putting more on here. I'm ready to go. Ingredients. Yeast extract. It says it's concentrated yeast extract. From yeast grown on barley and wheat. Salt, mineral salt. Malt extract.

Color, flavors. Niacin, thiamine, riboflavin. See, I don't like malt. Yeah, malt is in here. I know you don't like whoppers. Ugh. That's what these fruit chocs made me think. They look like whoppers. But they're with peaches.

It's like the chocolate center of a peach. See? That's the picture on the front. No. So this is, as I was describing this to Becky, the Vegemite, as I was describing it to her, I said, so if vegetables could poop, it would be Vegemite.

I fit that in there somewhere. It's a garden turd, ladies and gentlemen. Oh my goodness. Stop. So we've got our.

Vegemite toast here. Yes. Ready to give this a go? Ready and go. That is way too salty. Whoa.

Thank you, Elizabeth, but I don't know what I was expecting, but not that. I'm glad that was only a little bit. Alright, we got bottles of water ready, so we're going to take, we're going to wash that down a little bit.

It's not as bad after you choke it down a little bit. I'm not sure I would take a second bite, but you know. It's not as bad as I was anticipating, honestly.

But now does garden turd not fit that? You were doubting me, but now I've... It's the shade. Now the first time I had it, I told you it was 20 years ago the last time I had it. I had it on a cracker, and it was a great big gross gob of the stuff.

Oh, I can't, no. It was a lot. No, that's so wrong. It was so awful.

You might as well have taken a spoonful. Yeah, it pretty much was.

And then salted cracker.

On a salted cracker. It already tastes.

Kind of salty. Oh, it's not kind of. That's a lot.

It says B1 essential for brain function. B2 supports your nervous system. B3 essential for energy release. Folate helps fight fatigue. So you should get all kinds of energy from this, babe. I should. You want me to stick this up there with the breakfast foods?

I mean, if the kids like it, sure. They like raisins and stuff. Raisins? It isn't even comparable to raisins. What's the matter with you? They like stuff I don't like. She doesn't like raisins, but just because you don't like raisins doesn't mean you compare Vegemite to raisins.

Well, no, but I put it in the same category. No, thank you. I think I'll pass.

All right, granted. Thank you, Elizabeth. It was very wonderful for you to send this package. We're not done yet, though. We got the sugary stuff next.

Do we want to do that first or the black licorice? Let's do the black licorice.

You can eat some black licorice. No.

I am not. No. Hey, if I tried something I really didn't feel like trying, then you've got to try something you really like. Okay, but I know.

What black licorice tastes like, and I know it's not going to be any different, and I didn't remember what Vegemite tasted like. I just knew that I didn't like it. Now you do. Now I know. You can't even get the package open.

So we can't have any licorice. Oh, my goodness. That is the biggest.

Piece of black licorice I've ever seen. We have a knife here. We're going to cut a little sliver off to save the rest. That is gigantic. Just in case. It's like a sausage. It does. It's huge.

There you go. I'm used to the little twizzlers. On the front of the package, if it said contents are as big as that wouldn't even be accurate. It's bigger than that. It is bigger. Good gracious. Oh, I dropped mine.

Man, I dropped my licorice. Try again. It's from Australia. It's probably going to be black licorice with Vegemite.

In it. Oh, stop. Well, it is plant-based. And always has been.

Do you know the opera Mall and the Night Visitors? Are you familiar with that? No. There's a scene in the Mall and the Night Visitors where a mall is asking one of the three wise men what's in his box.

The song is called This is My Box. He's got this chest of drawers that he travels around with. One drawer has beads in it because he loves to play with beads. But in the third drawer he keeps licorice, licorice, black sweet licorice, black sweet licorice.

Have some. No, you're not familiar with this opera. Nope. Anyway, I was always appalled.

At that though. I was like, no, what are you doing to the poor kid? Giving him black licorice? Hey, back then this was probably as sweet as it gets. I don't know what's on this.

It's probably crumbs from our toast. It probably did get some.

Vegemite on there. I'm taking the crumbs off. Alright, ready?

Ready. Go. Man, that's.

Strong. Tastes like black licorice.

You know, in a teeny tiny little itty bitty bite that I took, it's really good. It's better than the Vegemite. I'll give it that. Yes. Definitely better than the Vegemite. I just.

Am not a black licorice fan.

But I'm sure I'm gonna love these. So let's open these up. I bet your Aria's gonna love.

Those. Becky's still, she's still eating her.

Black licorice over there. And that's like a first ever. Ever.

Tear here. False advertising. Hang on, I think I've got some scissors. Hey, we have the same problems. In Australia their packages don't open down there either. There we go. Alright, so now what's you open up?

I am opening up the fruit chocks. This is one I really want to try. Alright. Okay, here you go.

So it's chocolate. Chocolate covering a peach.

I'm gonna dive right into this. And if it's full of Vegemite.

I'm gonna be sorely disappointed. Delightfully unexpected seeing you here. It's. It's what it says on the bottom of the package. It's what it says on the bottom of the package. It's so delightfully unexpected seeing you here.

Okay. Hey, I was gonna.

Read that. Bring it back. Apparently trying to catch you looking underneath, I guess. It's gluten free.

It's energy. It's energy. Well, it says energy right there. Pure energy. Be treat wise. Enjoy a balanced diet. It's gonna turn me into.

Captain Planet if I eat it. Alright, so this is.

The original recipe. Okay.

It just says milk chocolate. I'm eating mine. I'm eating it right now. Okay, go for it.

Oh, that's good. There's like a little.

Hint of orange in there. Almost. Okay, so it has.

Milk chocolate which is made from sugar, cocoa butter cream milk powder, cocoa liquor. That tasted like I expected it to taste.

Soy. Soy. Don't get the gross ingredients now.

No, I'm not. I liked it. Here's the sugar. Dried peach and dried apricot. Ah.

I think it's a little bit of the apricot. That's the two different. Yeah, the peach and the apricot there. Yeah, okay. That's what I'm getting. Peach and apricot together. Alright, this is. It tasted.

Different than what I was expecting, so I was wondering what else was in there.

This is a Tim Tam and this is large.

It's really good. This is.

Like a chocolate. I'm still on the fruit chalks. This is a chocolate covered chocolate cookie. So a lot of chocolate in your Tim Tam. You want to.

Try that? I am not sleeping tonight. Alright. Okay, so what's in the Tim Tam? Because you'll be burping.

Up that Vegemite and that's why you're not going to be sleeping. Oh, stop. Okay, what's in the Tim Tam chocolate? I just told you. It's just chocolate? It's a chocolate covered chocolate.

That's it? Just chocolate. Alright.

And it says we can win three wishes. $100 ,000 plus win $100 hourly. You know, Elizabeth, we become grand prize winners through this package. We'll certainly share the prize with. Oh yeah, definitely.

I know it's I don't even know how you win. I didn't read all of that. But this is. $100 hourly. Arnott's Tim Tam original. Here we go.

Ready? Okay. I really like that.

I am not a chocolate fan. And I like that. It's really tasty. It reminds me of the Keebler, but better. Like the same kind of. Trying to think of which Keebler? Like the regular elf.

Cookies? Is that what you're thinking of? Yeah, because the chocolate tastes the same. Ah, yes. Okay. But more rich. Does that make sense? Yeah. That's really good. Well, because it's chocolate.

Outside. It's not the cookie outside. So yeah, definitely more rich. Alright, and then we've got these Jersey Caramels. Oh man.

Quit eating your cookie. No, I like my cookie. Just set it down right there and don't let it touch your Vegemite.

Bye. Okay, here's a caramel for you. Alright, caramel.

Now, it has caramel. Caramel. It has caramel on either side. And then it has a white streak down the middle? Yes.

What is that? White caramel. I mean, I'm sure that's what makes it Jersey. Ingredients. Sugar. Glucose. Soft icing. Ah, maybe it's the icing. Soft icing sugar. Ah. Condensed milk. Flour, vegetable oil, water, flavor.

Gelatin. What's up with them and vegetables? Salt. Just kidding. Made in Australia from 100 kangaroo. Oh, whatever. Whatever. Had a kangaroo on it. Okay, here we go. Ready? That's not as chewy as I expected.

Not as caramelly as I expected, but still really good.

It is really good. It's kind of tangy. Maybe it's just because I ate it after the chocolate.

I'm going to say, I'm still tasting some of that. Tim Tam. I don't know that I rinsed my palate out well.

Before eating that, but it is good. I forgot to take a drink. Yeah, I did too. Yeah, my bad.

But it's really good. It's still good, just didn't have that.

So if you guys hear chewing like every once in a while throughout the podcast, it's just me.

Didn't have that like gooey stretch out caramel quality.

To it. That's what I was kind of expecting.

I was expecting that, yeah. Didn't get that. That was really good. Well, Elizabeth, this was like the best package ever. So thank you. And I have to give credit where credit is due. She's not the first one to do this for us.

I was going to say. J .R., our friend in Canada, had also sent us a box of Canadian foods. I think this was before you were on the podcast though, because it was a couple years ago. And the box got wet, so we never had the chance to try the foods.

Dive into all of it. And it wasn't our mail carrier's fault, it was us. I can't remember how the box got wet,.

But after that was like... I think it was on the table, and then somebody spilled it.

Might have been. It was really wet though. It wasn't just like, oh, this is salvageable. No, it was all toast. It was bad. So I'll have to tell J .R., hey, send us some Canadian food. And we'll do that on the podcast sometime.

And we'll have to send him back a package of some Kansas food. What, sunflower seeds?

Maybe. I don't know. I'll have to get creative. Maybe some honey. Oh yeah, we've got a local place that does.

Some great honey. Oh yeah, and some jams. But yeah, we're kind of limited on Kansas only. We can get you some American stuff. Kansas only is a little tougher to come by. Well, you've got Kansas City.

Barbecue. Yeah, that's true. I have to admit, Texas barbecue, you find those good authentic Texas barbecue places where they have like the nice bark on the outside of.

The pork or the brisket or whatever it is that you're eating. Yeah, I know what you're talking about. I have had better.

Texas barbecue than I've ever had barbecue anywhere else. So as much as Kansas City wants to brag on its barbecue, it doesn't compare with Dallas. Best barbecue I've ever had was in Dallas. You don't agree?

I don't think you ate at the places I've eaten. No, I didn't. I was skeptical too. Yeah. It was Tom Buck that took me to the place that I went.

And ate. Well, see, there you go. I wasn't there.

I'm still skeptical until I tasted it. The first bite, I was like, yep, best barbecue I've ever had.

It wasn't even a contest. My eating out gets a little complicated though with my allergy. That's true. But this place, it was just barbecue.

Didn't have to worry about shrimp, nothing like that. Shrimp on the barbie. It was just brisket or pork. That was your choices. Alright, this next question or next letter here. Snail mail. Snail mail.

Mail snail. Mail mail. Authentic mail. There we go. This comes from Colton in Texas. See our envelope? Oh, that's awesome. It has WWUTT on there and amazingly, that still got to us. That is great. Our local post office is kind of funny.

We still received this letter even though it said, what? On the front of it. But the postal workers are.

Very nice. They are. Very kind people. It's just ridiculous. Whenever you want to mail something to someone in Junction City, it has to go to Kansas City first. Which is two hours away. Two hours. And then comes to Junction City.

And then comes back two hours. Yeah.

You wonder why the price of stamps is going up. That's why. Because they do ridiculous stuff like that. I'm sure that's not just here.

No, it's nationwide. Yeah.

Somebody just... I don't get it. Because in the town that I grew up in, there were two drop boxes. Yep. In town and out of town. Yep. You can mail something in town. Yep. Now we have to mail something in town.

We have to send it to Kansas City. Yeah. This is Colton. He says, Dear Mrs. Becky and Pastor Gabe. I think that's the best address that I think that I've seen. That's great. Because when you do Dear Pastor Gabe and Becky, it can be confusing to think that the person is calling us both Pastor.

But to start out this way, Dear Mrs. Becky and Pastor Gabe, that's pretty good. Eileen started it out that way too. Oh, did she? Similar. I didn't give credit to Eileen. Let me look at Eileen's. Dear Becky and Gabe.

Not Pastor, but it is still there.

Yes. Dear Mrs. Becky and Pastor Gabe. Ladies first. My name is Colton Knight and I'm 11 years old. Aww. Hi. I love your what videos so much, I bet I've seen every one. That's neat. That's over 250 videos.

That's a lot. I also enjoy listening to your podcast regularly. The reason I sent you this letter is to see if you can answer my questions. Number one, who are the 24 elders in Revelation 5? And number two, this is a question that our own son would ask, how did the dinosaurs die if they were on the Ark?

Our son would ask a question like that too. Yep. Let's go to Revelation chapter 5. We'll read about the 24 elders. Starting in verse 1. Then I saw in the right hand of him who was seated on the throne a scroll written within and on the back, sealed with seven seals.

And I saw a mighty angel proclaiming with a loud voice, who is worthy to open the scroll and break its seals? And no one in heaven or on earth or under the earth was able to open the scroll or to look into it.

And I began to weep loudly because no one was found worthy to open the scroll or to look into it. And one of the elders said to me, weep no more. Behold, the lion of the tribe of Judah, the root of David, has conquered, so that he can open the scroll and its seven seals.

And between the throne and the four living creatures and among the elders, I saw a lamb standing as though it had been slain with seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven spirits of God sent out into all the earth.

And he went and took the scroll from the right hand of him who was seated on the throne. And when he had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the lamb, each holding a harp and golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints.

And they sang a new song, saying, Worthy are you to take the scroll and to open its seals, for you were slain and by your blood you ransomed people for God from every tribe and language and people and nation.

And you have made them a kingdom and priests to our God, and they shall reign on the earth. Then I looked and I heard around the throne and the living creatures and the elders, the voice of many angels, numbering myriads of myriads and thousands of thousands, saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the lamb who was slain to receive power and wealth and wisdom and might and honor and glory and blessing.

And I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and in the sea and all that is in them saying, To him who sits on the throne and to the lamb be blessing and honor and glory and might forever and ever.

And the four living creatures said Amen, and the elders fell down and worshipped. Got that Vegemite crawling back up into my throat. No, stop. So what was something that you saw coming up repeatedly there, other than the Vegemite coming back up, that you saw happening in regular mention there in chapter five of Revelation?

Somehow there's a question in there. I just couldn't, I couldn't formulate it.

Numbers? Numbers,.

Right. So we have numbers that are regularly occurring here in chapter five. So you had the between the throne and the four living creatures, you had a scroll with writing on the front and the back and it's sealed up with seven seals among the elders.

I saw a lamb standing and it had seven horns with seven eyes, which are the seven spirits of God sent out into all the earth. Numbers have significance through the book of Revelation. Oh yeah. What we're reading here is apocalyptic literature.

Every book of the Bible has a particular genre of literature that it's fitting into. So right now on the podcast we're going through Acts, Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday and we're going through Psalms on Thursday.

Acts, as we did our introduction to the book of Acts on Monday, is an adventure story. So it's a narrative, you're reading it as a narrative. Of course what we're reading is true, but it fits in kind of an adventure story type of genre.

Okay. And the Psalms of course are poetic. Right. So you're gonna read the poetry of the Psalms differently than you're gonna read what you are going through in the book of Acts. The book of Revelation is no different.