March 15, 2022 Show with Michael A. Gaydosh on “What’s New in Print from the Finest in Christian Literature”

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This is chris arnzen Your host of iron sharpens iron radio wishing you all a happy tuesday on this 15th

day of march 2022.

And i'm so thrilled to have back On the program a returning guest a man

that I have known since the 1980s who was once Actually my pastor my first

pastor as a born -again christian the man who immersed me in the waters of

baptism and trained me in the faith for my initial

years growing up in the faith when I say growing up starting as a man in my mid

-20s growing up in the faith.

And i'm thrilled to have him back here on the program.

He is the founder of solid ground christian books whose website is solid -ground

-books .com and today we are going to be Discussing what's new in print from the finest in

christian literature.

It's my honor and privilege to welcome you back to iron sharpens iron radio.

Mike gay dash.

Well, thanks chris

Church.

And I know what you're

going to say about the microphone falling from the pulpit.

I did not have an

opportunity to hear the second interview, but I did hear the first.

The pastor for a

job.

Thank you.

And the

opportunities that god has given you to be with pastors and

theologians spurts in a variety of Subjects and

i'm really proud of you in the way that

that god is using you.

Well, thank you.

In fact, if anybody listening wants to hear those two interviews with

mikola liliavsky Who is on the faculty at grace bible seminary?

and also on the Leadership team at grace bible church in kiev

ukraine Just go to the archive at iron sharpens iron radio .com click on

podcast past shows.

And if you want to type in the search engine Mikola, I've never interviewed anybody by that name

other than mikola liliavsky.

So his two interviews will come up.

Uh, certainly the first one will because it's already posted on the archive, but Our

webmaster has been a little behind on some of the more recent

Programs being posted.

He does have a full -time job of his own and he volunteers for us.

So Hopefully the the second Interview will be up.

Either today or very soon afterward.

Uh, you know something I think it'd be a good idea to refresh our memory the memories of those who know this

story but Also to introduce for the first time the story.

Of how solid ground

christian

books even came

into existence.

Church.

Yep,

and I remember it.

Well.

Yes.

And I came up with the idea of uh.

Of kind of pulling it out of that book and giving it a life of its own.

Yep,

originally did something like 5 000 copies and they

went.

They just hadn't been available and

we had people ordering 10 20 30 copies and Churches ordering

50 copies and it was timeless even though it was a 19th century.

Uh booklet originally by ryle.

Uh, it was really spoke

to any

era originally did it as a large

and um.

And then eventually we had it retype set.

And had a new cover done and it was done as uh, you know a small book but um.

Very nicely done.

We did footnotes for it.

We uh, we updated the language just a little bit and um, and that

went through several editions and um.

And and we just saw.

I mean the number of responses that we got.

I remember getting letters from.

They had had a revival breakout as a result of that particular

booklet

being handed out in

philadelphia area and

um told in

that story and you published

that Booklet the blue booklet with with uh, you know, the various people and kind of black and white on

the cover.

I said, yeah.

He said god used that to save me.

Wow in australia.

The man

used that to bring him

to faith and i've heard story in and again

through the gift of

god in

the past somehow put aside.

And had not been available for a long time and so.

That is sort of the niche that solid ground.

Has begun with and we've been doing this now for over 20 years.

And have about 300 and surprise

me.

Um, i'm just very grateful to

the lord for the opportunity.

I'm no longer a pastor, but I do feel like this ministry has allowed me

to Minister to pastors and give them the tools that they need

to be able to minister to their people.

I remember another one of the very early booklets that you

published.

Uh, probably the second one.

Uh was a christmas question by charles

spurgeon for a while we brought it back in

and um in his

Zoo, a

very

powerful sermon by spurgeon and that's kind of his approach to the whole thing is.

He seeks to apply To the unconverted

to press the the gospel upon them.

Yeah, there were a lot of things that we did early on small things.

Like that one the christmas question the adolph manoe booklet.

Right the adolph manoe booklet, uh, which which was the dying man's regret.

Yes.

And um that actually the dying man's regrets is no longer available, but we do we have published

The book from which that was extracted and that is titled now living in the hope of glory.

And it's the farewell addresses.

Mano was dying of cancer.

And uh on his deathbed of his congregation.

Would come into his room.

And he would preach that gave him have the

lord's table the congregation that would come into his room.

He would preach to them with the strength strength that god gave him.

And thankfully somebody took down Every one of those messages.

And so, you know, we have that book.

It was it's always been known as mono's farewell.

And there are 25 25 messages that he preached over a period of

obviously 25 weeks and his prayer was that he would be able to

Complete his ministry.

And uh, and and that that he would be able to speak up to the last time.

Well, the lord took him home the sunday morning.

He had the previous sunday the last time that he got to speak to the people.

He actually was so weak.

And was in so much pain from the cancer.

That um that he prayed he just said he didn't have the strength.

In fact, this is how he begins my dear friends.

I am the one who asked our friend to read us this psalm.

He read psalm 100.

And he says I have no strength left to consider the love of god.

That god loved us that is the entire doctrine of the gospel.

Let us love god that it's that is its entire ethic.

Scarcely knowing if I will be able to make myself heard I gather up my small strength to

invoke with you the eternal and infinite love of god.

And then he just closed his ministry.

In prayer.

Oh love who is god who has never done never does and never will do anything to us except through love.

How I am thankful.

Uh, you Have enough on seeing these brothers whom love has gathered around my bed of sickness of

suffering.

And of that which you alone can know I rejoice in their love.

To whom has it been better shown?

Would I not be the most ungrateful of men if I were not the most grateful?

That is why my god I give you thanks.

And then he just goes and he continues his prayer and then he closes and that really ultimately was the end of his ministry.

He closed his ministry.

Wow, and in five messages.

He did a dying man's regrets and.

And that's what I I kind of extracted those five and put those and

now i've actually published five of his books.

And I remember john angel james's booklet.

I believe it was called a church member's duties to his pastor to

their pastor the

popular booklet with churches because many times pastors Find it difficult

to Speak about these things because it seems very self -serving

right

in which we've also published.

We've published both this booklet and also the book the church members guide.

And in the church members guide, he has one chapter called the duties of church members to their pastors and

we ended up actually Combining that booklet with another one called a

plea to pray for pastors by gardner spring.

Yes.

I remember that he was in new york city, right?

Gardner spring.

Gardner spring was it was a pastor a brick memorial church in new york city for I think it was.

Now was that in the 18th century?

Wasn't it some time?

Yeah, he lived.

85 but he died.

Those men are just.

They were incredible writers.

I don't know if you remember the story, but when I did a plea to pray for

pastors.

Originally, I did it by itself.

I just did a.

You know, it was only five pages.

I remember that and I and I remember I I yes I

I'd called a pastor al martin from montville, new jersey.

I called him in the morning and because I knew that he loved gardner spring and he loved the book the

power of the pulpit and.

The plea to pray for pastors was extracted from the power of the pulpit.

And so I called him and asked him if he would be willing to write a little forward or introduction.

I said it's a small little booklet, but I know that you appreciate spring's ministry

and he said he said yeah, he said he would he would be happy to do that and.

And unbelievably later that same day I get a phone call from.

Masters is his last name.

Um.

But he's uh, he was in.

In uh, oh from uh charles spurgeon's.

Uh, no, no masters master's seminary.

It was from master's seminary.

Oh, okay.

One of the professors would be possible.

He was saying Uh

john mcarthur and he

will be coming to in chapter five in a couple of

months.

And we would love to be able he said

it's my desk.

And we were wondering if we could order like 2 000 copies.

I remember that I remember that It's a

five -page booklet and you got I've got

al martin introduction or a forward to this.

And and the yeah, the funniest thing was that it happened in the same day.

I mean, it was just unbelievable Circumstances and how god brought that about and so

I I I told him I said well I mean, how do you turn down somebody who wants to order

2 000 copies and then also have John mccarthur write the uh, the

introduction of the forward told him I said this is

real embarrassing, but it's very gracious and he said

He said don't worry about it.

He said that's He said that's very understandable.

He said I would do exactly the same thing and I told him it's well I'll tell

you what i'll it's

just funny how things like that would happen In publishing where

you can't believe the timing of things like that.

Amen.

Well, why don't you?

Let our listeners know some of the New things and when I say new things, they're not necessarily

New in regard to when they were written, but they are very often Very old things that are

newly in print.

I've talked many times about counsels and thoughts, you know, we talked together about that.

That's uh, Counsels and thoughts for the spiritual life of believers.

Yes.

One of the gifts that I had you ship to.

The pastors.

All of the pastors who were speakers at the recent true church conference in mussel shoals, alabama.

Yes, I had found out I

didn't know who more was.

I rarely Rarely if ever publish a book when I don't know about the author.

But tom

nettles street

chapel

and

then he

served alongside of spurge

in ministry.

And one of his responsibilities was interviewing who

desired to become members of the church.

And that was one of the responsibilities of of the elders of which more was one.

And he had the opportunity of being able to sit and listen to the tips and

hundreds of people and probably even thousands.

And this book really was written for the

most part

had been Converted under that

book counsels and thoughts for the spiritual life of believers.

Is he published?

Also, I was able to to republish again, and this is not a new book, but a spurgeon's

devotional bible.

Wow.

Devotional bible is a pretty good size pretty massive size volume that in which

spurgeon selected passages from genesis 1 to revelation 22 and.

He put these passages to or he put these readings together the them

together in really a unique way and and he had.

You had the evening for every day of the year.

Or you could read one read that's how many

passages that's how he divided up the bible from genesis to revelation.

And he would intersperse comments his devotional

bible.

That's what it's called spurgeon's devotional bible.

And I was I was excited to be able to bring that into print brought that into my life about

40 years ago.

No, even more than that now, I guess it was 45 46 years ago.

When I first went to seminary which would have been in january of 19

was the devotional that I was using in my personal walk with and had a great impact

on my life at that time and.

And I just within the last year was able to to bring out a new edition.

It hadn't been available for some time I mean not like hundreds of years, but it had been Several

years since it had been available.

And so I was very thankful that I was able to bring that back into print.

And just going back to the uh the book by thomas moore.

Yeah.

I interviewed tom nettles just about two weeks ago.

Maybe maybe three.

And he spontaneously started to rave about that book about how valuable and wonderful it is.

He was actually putting the finishing touches on his most recent biography of spurgeon.

Um, it's it's I think this one is a kind of a smaller That

he did on

spurgeon that I

had given him and he

loved it right away.

And he kept asking who is this guy?

Who is this guy?

I said, I don't know.

Nobody seems to know.

Nobody over in england even knows.

It was while he was there that He literally stumbled across his name.

And it was in the place recorded.

Of the people who had been converted under spurgeon and the elders who had interviewed them

would write a Uh would write like a summary of their testimony.

And then sign it at the end.

And he started noticing this name thomas moore over and over again.

And then finally he realized wait a minute this guy.

This is the same guy and he was an elder.

And then you know, we did we were able to finally do some research and find out.

Yes.

Indeed.

He was he was an elder at park street church and and the metropolitan town.

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prayer publicly on the show for that sometimes roger is absolutely immobilized

By the excruciating pain that he has in his knees and that is why he could not join his wife and

his son for lunch with me when I was passing through birmingham after the.

True

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Home church there

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Um, yeah, I could

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Standing.

Well, tell us about some of the the new Publications that are not necessarily new in

their content.

Yeah, the uh, well, I just

pulled out three more that before

about richard, uh born

in liverpool england died in philadelphia, pennsylvania.

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churches there and a

sunday afternoon worship service once a month for young

people and for children for children and young people.

And I guess they were just actually called for the young.

And uh, and he had such an incredible gift just

hung on his word.

His sermons were not just full -blown

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that he did on those sundays.

And it's entitled rills from the fountain of life.

And uh, there are I believe a dozen messages.

So this would have been covering one full year and uh.

After he had done preaching these he never intended to have these

Began and he ended up doing it for the rest of his ministry over 30

years.

And i've published I think 18 of his volumes three of them I've

published fairly recently.

The one is the reels from the fountain of life, which was the very first book that he published

and then also the most difficult book.

That uh, it was so hard to find an old copy of.

Was called the beauty of the king.

And these are sermons for children on the riches of the grace and the wonders of the love of christ

and uh what what I love about newton is.

When you read the stories that he tells and the illustrations that he uses for his sermons.

Uh, I mean they bring you to tears and you just wonder.

We're defying these.

I mean he lived obviously way way before internet and.

And the ability to search out things like we have today.

And yet somehow he had this Illustrations that he

used and even though these are sermons for children and young people Pastors and families.

These would be great to be able to use in family worship.

In fact Many many people have told me that they have been using these in family worship

and um and so there's the reels from the fountain of life the beauty of the king and then the third

one is Five giants and how to fight them lessons for children of all ages and

there's a picture of david and goliath on the cover.

And um, but he deals with the the giants that he is dealing with.

Here are giants of heathenism selfishness

covetousness

whole series on The the reason for fighting these giants.

And then he has one on the good soldiers the conquering jewels the wonderful eyes acknowledging god and the cure for

care.

I mean, I just there's no possible way to exaggerate how good these sermons are and

Pastors would do well to read them to study them.

And to imitate him in the way that he illustrated the truth of god.

And I know that you have been promoting on facebook uh some

literature booklets.

One is the fear of god And the soul of godliness.

Yes by john murray.

And you have others there as well.

Yeah, the

started publishing

these small things.

We already mentioned a couple of them the the duties of church members and the christmas

question and the Dying man's

regrets easily done

an example of

godliness and

uh this full chapter In the book principles

of conduct

the fear

of god is extracted from that Particular book and it is just joe

beeky Said regarding it john murray's booklet on the fear of god the theme that desperately needs to be resurrected

today Is the best short treatment of this subject anywhere in the english language?

Buy this booklet in bulk and give a copy to each of your friends.

It can do them and the church immeasurable good

on biblical

ethics but this one Stand -alone chapter the

fear of god the soul of god is just absolutely wonderful.

I also have another chap extract that I had to get permission from the publishers to

do these but John murray a book that I was given when I was in seminary

probably 45 years ago I was introduced to murray through the book redemption

accomplished and applied.

Oh, yeah.

And that's been

helping me to sort through many many different issues in my own understanding of biblical doctrine

and One

chapter and then the conclusion of part one of the book Entitled for

whom did christ die and the chapter was entitled the extent.

Of the atonement one of the most controversial issues in the church for centuries.

Even amongst calvinists

never anybody uses that kind of terminology.

You don't have to ask them.

Of the five

points hold to unconditional election

or doesn't hold to perseverance of the saints.

The only one that they would be struggling with because I know I myself did.

I struggled with it myself because I.

I struggled with the universal texts.

And in fact I love the way murray begins.

He begins.

Do we have time for me to just read a paragraph?

Oh, yeah, definitely.

Um

with

glory

and honor

that

he by the

grace

of god

should taste death for

every man.

He

quotation of a

few

texts like these.

And several others that might be quoted determines the quest to end the

bible uses expressions that are universal in form.

But cannot be interpreted as meaning all men distributively and inclusively.

Such words as were world and all.

And such expressions as every one and all men.

Do not always in scripture mean every member of the human race.

For example when paul says with reference to the unbelief of israel.

For if their trespass is riches of the world how much more their fullness?

Are we to suppose that he meant that the trespass of israel?

Brought the riches of which he is speaking to every person who had been is now and ever will be

in the world.

Such an interpretation would make nonsense.

The word world would then have to include israel, which is here contrasted with the world.

And it is not true that every member of the human race was enriched by the fall of israel.

When paul used the word world here, he meant the gentile world.

Has contrasted with israel.

The context makes this abundantly plain.

So we have an example of the word world used in a restricted sense and does not mean all men.

Distributively.

And then he goes on and and argues and and reasons from the scriptures

that like john owen has said.

If christ died for all men, that is if he made an atonement if he paid the penalty for their sin if

he was their propitiation.

Well, then nobody can be lost.

Because god can't twice demand payment for that sin.

And and murray goes on and explains how important it is for us to know.

Before we even understand the extent of the atonement.

We need to understand the nature of the atonement.

What exactly that christ died?

For Sinners, what does that mean.

And he goes and he explains that as he works through that material.

In fact, uh, I think one of the greatest challenges that I have witnessed

especially from those that claim allegiance to some

form of calvinism, but the the teaching of particular

Redemption or definite atonement or limited atonement is too high a hurdle for them to get

past.

I have found over and over again, and I hope I don't insult anyone in this category right now, but it

seems to be.

And of course, this is not the words they would use but it seems to be based in a lot of sentimentalism.

And they cannot imagine abandoning a formula of evangelism.

That has been at the very core of their evangelism and that is approaching either total

strangers or people who are obviously lost.

And saying to them jesus loves you and died for you.

Well,

I

think

I mean

right.

It's got to

be the

book

of

acts.

It's

like a

blueprint.

In fact, could you pick up right where you left off because we have to go to our midway break right now.

Sure, please don't forget the laying down of christ's life for his sheep.

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I can I can tell you a hilarious.

Uh example of that that was involved you somehow I know and it doesn't even involve

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Uh, my friend the late john riesinger who's now in heaven.

I remember him telling uh, the audience at one of his conferences that he had a friend

Who had spent thousands of dollars?

Reprinting a booklet by jc royall.

And he didn't sell any of these booklets because the man insisted on using the original

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That jc royall chose and that was letters to a gay friend.

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Was that actually happened?

Did that actually.

Well john riesinger said it actually happened.

That's funny.

That's funny.

Yeah,

well,

I never

had any

yeah,

I

would

say

considering

initially

doing that.

Uh, do we have time?

I have a

couple things I

wanted to

point.

Oh,

yeah.

In fact you were in the middle of talking about.

Definite atonement.

I forgot about that.

You're

my voice and I and I know them and they follow me.

And uh, I lay down my life for for the sheep.

And then he looked at some who are around him and says you are not my sheep.

He's making it pretty clear when he says I lay down my life for my sheep.

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I didn't lay i'm not laying down my life for you.

That is for unbelievers those who have rejected me and there are there are so many

examples of that and and it's really important to to note the

perfection of the atonement and the nature of the atonement and that's what murray does brilliantly in

redemption accomplished and in the book Redemption accomplished and applied it's almost like

two seven redemption

accomplished.

And then the second part is on the.

And that deals with all the issues of the application of the

holy spirit and um I think that what really

began to change my mind and my understanding of the definite atonement was.

Focusing on the nature of the atonement.

What exactly did jesus do?

What does the scripture say jesus did?

What does it mean when it says he died for our sins?

What does that mean that he took our place?

What what is this substitute?

What is it all about?

And when you the more you focus on The nature of the atonement and the perfection of

the atonement the more you realize that.

As john owen would say you really only have two options christ if christ died for everyone.

Then everyone will be saved.

And that would even have to include he died for

his own.

And everyone for whom.

And that is the position that I came to

and by john murray.

And wouldn't you say as other great men other than myself? have said

Uh that the all the only alternative.

Is that you really don't believe.

Jesus saved a single soul on calvary.

He made men savable.

I had a professor in seminary.

I won't mention to be a

four -point calvinist.

Well, he was a true four -point calvinist in that he

Very strongly held to the other four points.

And he held what he called a hypothetical universalism

i'll never forget.

I

guess

Jesus did not accomplish and I

walked away.

They actually got it.

It's insane for

instance the words of galatians 2 20.

Which happened to be the words that god used 47 years ago to open my eyes and turn me from

darkness to light.

For i've been crucified with christ nevertheless I live yet not in the life

that I now live in the flesh.

I live by faith in the son of god who Loved

died for

the world.

He died for all.

But here he loved me and gave himself

truly believes That christ died for everyone equal

and upon the lips

for his eternally in hell.

And of what what does that mean?

What does that accomplish then the fact that he loved me and gave himself?

And the same thing with the universal love of christ.

Obviously, there are differences even amongst calvinists about uh, if

christ loves everyone uh or uh.

And of course with a calvinist The calvinist would always believe that if he does love everyone in some

way He certainly doesn't love everyone as a parent or as a spouse.

Yeah, those are the only.

Only those who are in the church are loved by god as a

Child or a or as god as a parent or a spouse.

And that's why I

think

that you'll love

again a husband.

I think the way I think it was william hendrickson who said God loves all men in some

ways But he loves only his elect in all ways.

Amen.

Much deeper than I think we think.

And if an arminian interpretation of that Uh was

true It should have been reworded by paul uh that

Husbands love your wives and every other woman on the planet Just as christ loved the church

and everybody else in the planet.

Doesn't make any sense.

Murray's book

redemption accomplished and applied

would be.

Would be really really helpful along those lines.

Um.

Do you have a minute for me to tell you about another book here?

Oh, definitely.

Yes,

he begins

with the chapter.

It's

a travel log based

jesus focusing his attention on says he.

He fixed his when the

day drew near for him to be taken up.

And uh this book that ferguson wrote uh, just beautifully goes through and uh, it was

it's actually written for this very time of the year for people to to read and to meditate

on The the atoning work of christ and all the people that he came in

contact with from luke 9 51 all the way to the cross.

And uh, it's just as everything that ferguson does it's just

anybody would like copies of that.

We have that right now actually at a very very good.

By the way, uh, people are clamoring and.

Demanding that you bring into print James white's book.

About me.

Is that more on my brother?

So.

The dumpster.

I have showed people that photograph and it looks exactly like me.

She does look like you.

Yeah, exactly a few years.

We have a mutual friend of ours grady in ashborough, north carolina who has a question.

Greetings brothers.

Brother mike, are you looking at publishing any complete sets of anything soon?

Or do you have any publications that you're waiting to see?

How many people are interested in it?

If

it

will

be

published

doing but

I don't want

to say what

they are

right now

but maybe I can talk to grady about that.

Well, it's providential that you mentioned sinclair ferguson as your favorite living author

because grady and I.

Are heading down to orlando next week to the ligonier conference in orlando.

And sinclair is one of the speakers on the roster.

For me, I know

that he um, you

said whenever he heard my voice he would break out into a cold

I've never done before.

Well, hopefully we'll be able to approach the speakers, uh, i've never been to a ligonier conference believe it or not.

Oh, let let me take that back.

I've never been to a ligonier national conference in orlando.

I've been to ligonier conferences in pennsylvania and new york city but but i've

never been to the National conference in orlando.

And uh, so i'm looking forward to this first time experience.

No, i'm saying I don't know.

I i'm hoping that.

I'm hoping that the speakers are approachable in some way and.

No, i'm sure they

are.

Well, I asked him when he was the last time he was at grace baptist church in carlisle.

Uh when he was speaking there for a reformation conference during a time of refreshment afterwards

I said to him uh sinclair i've asked you for many years to be a guest on iron trumpet's iron radio

and you've never either responded or.

Or accepted my invitation exactly.

What did he say?

What did he say.

In your opinion or your or in your telepathy or prophecy, what did he say.

Well.

He actually said what he said was.

Well ordinarily, I would do that, but I loathe that sort of thing.

Uh, the next is going to

be our

final

break in about 10

minutes out of comfort in times

of deep affliction and uh.

Contributions from some of the greatest authors of the uh, the 19th century, uh,

james buchanan who's best known for The doctrine of justification that he did

he has The chastening rod in the father's hand.

This is the first part of the book is is.

The uh, this section is titled affliction.

Then the next chapter is done by jw. Alexander of princeton

brilliant brilliant pastor and preacher and He had an article on uses of

chastisement Octavius Winslow that probably many of your

readers would know of jesus veiling his dealings.

Then there's a section on resignation by philip doddridge entitled silent

suffering.

Another by bacon stephens songs in the night season another by james buchanan again the

wellspring in the desert.

And then octavius winslow the weaned child.

And there's one on comfort by archbishop lake refuge from the storm

uh, henry, venn the white rope and then the Next

section leaning on the beloved Edward payson great preacher,

uh revival preacher in the early elizabeth elliott's.

I'm, sorry elizabeth prentice's father.

Each one of them is also collected poem

that in that particular article, but that's uh called the bow in the cloud.

Before but it's been a long time.

Uh, dr. Mike de mayo actor.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, and I took

it home and I

looked it over and I

and I realized I said wow and what it is.

Philip schaaf was a church historian and in the middle to late

1800s.

What he did is he went through and he categorized

two parts.

The first part was christ for us.

And and then he has that device for us.

He has a whole series of hymns that were

written

on the advent

of crushing the world of

the book.

There are dozens and dozens and dozens of hymns.

For almost every one of those categories and what's beautiful about the

way he did

the man who led augustine.

Wow, and then uh under the incarnation

anatolius 450 of the

father's love begotten.

Which was in 405 and then of course he comes all the way up to to having.

The hymns of of john milton and isaac watts and charles wesley and philip doddridge.

You know all on that theme.

And then and then he does this all the way through he's got he's got dozens on the passion of christ on the resurrection of

christ.

Again going all the way back to john of damascus in 787.

And from the latin of the 12th century from the latin of the 15th century uh isaac

watts charles martin luther.

And then that's the first half and the second half of the book is entitled christ in us.

And it's the love of and the loveliness of christ.

Christ our refuge and strength christ our peace faith in christ union with christ.

The holy communion love and the gratitude of christ and then forever with christ and praise and

adoration of christ and once again, you have hymns by clement of

alexandria dated at 200.

John calvin isaac watts charles wesley.

Wow.

It's amazing.

How big is this book?

What's that?

How large is this?

Wow.

So you're bringing that back into print?

No, i've got it.

It's already available.

Oh, wow.

Yeah, and it's one of those books taking the time when you

have 300 and almost 50 titles and then also you're distributing other titles from other publishers.

You just don't have the time to emphasize all of

them over this Thursday for dinner and i'm going to be giving them a copy of this

so that they can See the the riches of christian Hymn hymnology that

goes All the way back to the early centuries.

I heard the the most ancient rare and valuable volume that you possess.

Is your high school high school yearbook?

We we have.

Mike from monroe new york this should cheer you up because of that after that insult

Michael gadosh the man who once preached the best sermon.

To start the pastor's conference at trinity baptist church way back when.

It is indeed sweet to hear your voice brother.

Well mike from monroe new york his question is How big of a market is there for the

great old writers today?

And then he has

something else that i'll read of

young on the

doctrines of grace

back.

You know many many years ago.

And i'm

not talking about Because of my company being so

tight.

More publisher doing what we're

doing And also seeing what others are doing.

I'd say there is a it would be it

would be great if there were more people that were excited about the older writers but.

But I would say that it's a growing there is a growing audience.

You have the people that have been studying them for years, but then you have Many of the newer ones that are coming along and

I think pastors if pastors would quote these men.

And then even have a book table to introduce people to

these more productive kind of things.

His last comment slash question is.

Pilgrim publications finally closed down and I am afraid the full collection of spurgeon

sermons Will never be available again.

Are you aware of this?

And what do you think?

This is the ross family.

And I just I don't know.

I really don't know what what's to become of the works I think because of the day and age in which we

live and.

And ebooks and things of this nature.

Um it's going to be it's going to be tough to be uh to have somebody that's because we're

talking now, what is it 60 some volumes that.

That they have that they at one time had

see.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I've not heard from anyone.

What's going to happen?

I remember that family, uh were when I worked part -time at calvary press.

They were customers.

Uh would order calvary press publications to sell.

And we are going to our final break right now.

And if you have a question send it in immediately because we're rapidly running out of time.

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Welcome back.

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That was promoting something that happened years ago.

But anyway uh and let me just first quickly remind our

listeners or inform our listeners about tomorrow's and thursdays and fridays

programs tomorrow.

We have ryan denton on the program Discussing his new book augustine the evangelist.

On thursday we have D scott meadows joining us for the first time to discuss

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And if you could send me an email if you're interested, uh, that would be chris arnzen at gmail .com and put

pastors luncheon in the subject line and it dawned on me mike that you were the

speaker at at least the first four or five of my pastors luncheon in

the 1990s.

And that was uh.

The brainchild as you know of my precious late wife julie.

It was her idea to start having these annual Pastors luncheons which have now become biannual

even on some occasions tri -annual luncheons.

And I remember we first began them at the outback steakhouse in lindenhurst long island.

I tell you people are telling me things that I do.

Well, they that was definitely true and I can remember how fascinated I was that even

hardcore King james.

Only independent fundamentalist baptists who came and there were quite a number of them that used to come every year.

They loved your preaching even though you were not in their camp and they usually don't admit that kind of thing.

But if you could.

Now, uh.

Summarize with the last three minutes of the show what you most want our audience to remember about solid ground christian

books.

Once

again

of

starting

to do a study in florida.

I began as pastor at

calvary baptist after

serving as

interim.

And you will remember chris that for many many years at the end of every service.

The doxology with the words and now to him who is able to do

Exceeding abundantly beyond all that we ask or even think according to the power that is Is at

work within us.

To him be the glory in the church and in christ jesus throughout all generations.

Forever and ever amen.

Amen.

I remember it well doubt over and

over and over again and uh I'm, just i'm grateful for the privilege of being able to

serve to be able to stand alongside of you.

And good friend and i've appreciated that for many years.

Well, you have certainly proven to be a very valuable friend and brother in christ

and uh I just i'm thrilled to know that we have maintained a friendship all these years because

that does not always occur even amongst the most seasoned of christians somehow.

Or other friendships just Fade away.

Uh from memory, even though they may have been at one time close.

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