F4F | Lindsay Davis and The Escape From Hogwarts

The Channel’s Purpose and the Interview Setup

Welcome to another installment of fighting for the faith here on YouTube. I am Chris Roseboro your servant in Jesus Christ. This is the channel that compares what people are saying in the name of God to the Word of God.

No shortage of really bizarre things being said out there and we're gonna switch it up today. We're gonna switch it up. We're gonna be interviewing. I am in fact on the line on Skype. I have Lindsay Davis.

She is the gal who after watching the movie American Gospel the the documentary I happen to be in it near the yet, you know, like the last third of that but after watching it She her eyes were open God opened her eyes and she realized she was being deceived and of all places where she was she was at The Bethel School of Supernatural Ministry now I moving forward.

We'll just call it Hogwarts and and so she has been set free from this and You can if you you know, look her up on YouTube. She's done several interviews along that line and I've invited her on because I really want to talk a little bit about her experience.

Funny enough. There's some overlap between Things that she experienced and I experienced although I'd never went to Hogwarts. I was in the latter rain movement. But her coming out now. The question is how does one pick up the pieces after they've been deceived so profoundly?

In in ways like this and I mean, how do you know does this rock your faith and how you know and things of that nature because there's so much deception going on the dealing with this type of issue is quite important in helping people to Come to grips with the fact that they may be attending a bad church and and you know The question is what's next?

What does it cost you? You know funny enough it can cost you relationships. You can be shunned I mean, there's all different types of tactics used by people To keep control over others and make it so the cost is so high They can't even leave but I'm getting ahead of myself.

Leaving Bethel After Discovering the Deception

Let me let me bring Lindsay on to the program and And unmute you. There you go, Lindsay Thanks for coming on fighting for the faith. I've watched your story and Kept an eye on it, you know since we first heard About you, you know your eyes being opened and I got to give you at least some props because You stayed at Hogwarts for five months After after God opened your eyes to the fact that this was bonkers.

How did you gut that out?

Yeah, well after I watched American Gospel. And my eyes were open to the truth. I Was sick to my stomach and didn't sleep for three nights and I was really at a crossroads where I Had to decide what I was going to do.

I was either going to leave or I was going to stay and I would have been completely justified in leaving. Yeah, but I did feel this overwhelming burden. For the people there to see them repent and come to true saving faith in Christ and so I prayed about it and The Lord really just gave me the strength to stay as long as I could.

Before I got kicked out and to preach the gospel to these people and call them to repentance. And so yeah, I mean it was really just the grace of God that like gave me the strength to stay that long. It was definitely not easy.

It was really torturous. Actually if I'm being completely honest. Because once your eyes are open to the truth. The way that you experience things in the way that you see things in the way that you just go through.

The you know Hogwarts process is just so different. Yeah yeah, I mean it was really bad, but So much good came from it obviously and still needs to come from it.

Right now a Couple of you know ways I want to go here as we still kind of talk about your Hogwarts experience. Number one we'll go kind of to the end. Were you kicked out for false doctrine where you kicked out for blaspheming the Holy Spirit?

What were the charges that were brought against you?

The primary charge brought against me was the fact that While I was still in school, I was calling out These false teachers Bill Johnson and Chris Vallotton on social media while I was still attending the school and You know The reason that I did that was because you know The Lord gave me this platform with a lot of people that followed me.

But I mean almost everyone at Bethel followed me on social media. And so it wouldn't have been feasible for me to have one-on-one conversations with every single person at Bethel. So I was going to utilize this platform for good to hopefully try and make these people see the truth.

Mm-hmm, and so that's what I was doing. And so when I got kicked out the charges were basically, you know calling out the leaders being dishonorable. That's a huge thing their culture of honor. Yeah, I was being dishonorable.

And you know, I was speaking out against false doctrine and demonic practices. So, yeah, that's why I was kicked out and you know, they tried to Reason with me. They tried to get me to stop doing what I was doing.

So in a sense, they were almost giving me chances to stop what I was doing. But I told them, you know, I can't stop speaking up about this unless you stop preaching false Doctrine and you know practicing demonic things so Yeah.

Funny enough. I mean you were there shortly after. We we covered the connection between Bethel and the people down in Australia Christ Alignment who came up with this these tarot cards. And and they're giving people, you know.

Like, you know tarot card readings claiming that they're being powered by the Holy Spirit. And and at first Valentin Denied this and thought, you know, this is completely whack-or-doodle. See how the discernment people have no discernment.

And it turns out that there was a complete connection there. And the mother of of the. Well, let me put it this way the person who is involved with Christ Alignment she's the mother of like a famous guy who's a also a Hogwarts grad and.

And and so, you know, these connections are bizarre and their practices are not. Not only they're not biblical I mean they cross the line into the reading of omens into the occult type of practices. They've somehow baptized and blessed if you can even say it that way.

You know the practices of New Age people and psychics. Where was this like some of the stuff that they were teaching you at Hogwarts?

They weren't necessarily teaching it to us. But in your second or third year you can go on these little like short-term mission trips and Some of them would be to psychic fairs and at these psychic fairs they would set up these tents and They would not use the terms father son and Holy Spirit To lead people into encounters, but they would use the phrase spirit of creation.

Which I mean if you're familiar with Hinduism, that's also something that they say. Wow. Yeah, I mean they. I've also seen friends of mine Who attend the SSM and videos with you know? Jenny Hodge from Christ Alignment and they were doing these destiny cards and Also Teresa Deadman who is in charge of you know, the worship and the art and all of that.

Yeah, yeah, we covered her destiny pants. Yes. I mean, yeah, it's ridiculous. It's prophetic, you know. Spandex, you know, I don't it just bizarre. So yeah. Yeah. It's it's it's absolutely bonkers. I didn't and they defend this idea that somehow, you know, you know God You know can use their artwork or their merchandise for the purpose of you know, some kind of spiritual enlightenment.

Bonkers. Now when we talked I Don't think it was last week. It was the week before. You had told me that as part of your class assignments you went on and you know you went and did evangelism out in Reading and and you were actually Sharing the gospel with people.

Can you tell us about that experience. Because I think this is one of those ones where it's just super disjointed between the reality there at Bethel and the biblical reality of sound doctrine.

Evangelism Without the Gospel at Bethel

Yeah, absolutely, so. Just to preface this whole thing one of my most memorable Experiences in the evangelism group at Bethel was You know when I came out of deception, I was still close with a lot of the people at Bethel.

And so I asked one of the leaders of this group if I could speak in front of this evangelism group. It's about 80 people and there's Bethel leaders in there and whatnot. And So I got up and I basically said listen.

We've been false prophets preaching a false gospel and making false converts.

And the whole I mean you can hear a pin drop in the room. I can't imagine why so yeah.

So I said listen if you don't know the gospel here it is. And I shared the gospel with them and I had two people come up to me afterwards and say Lindsay I just realized that I've never heard the gospel in my life and They're at a supernatural ministry school and they're being sent out to share the gospel, but they don't know the gospel.

That's and so really.

Yeah, so I mean what role does the gospel play at that. Bethel.

It doesn't play a role really at Bethel at all because evangelism is all about power and experience. And power means, you know watching in miracles and signs and wonders and Bill Johnson You know says over and over and over again if you don't have miracles While you're preaching the gospel you're preaching a powerless gospel.

Yeah, and what an offense that is to what the Word of God says saying that the gospel is the power of God unto salvation, you know and the gospel isn't a demonstration of You know miracles or signs or wonders the gospel isn't you know this.

This lovey-dovey Jesus loves you and wants a relationship with you sort of message. You know, it's a message and a call to repent and believe. Yeah, and what accomplished on the cross? And so, you know while I was evangelizing one time at Bethel It was right after I said all of these things in front of my evangelism group I was out evangelizing and I was talking to this man who was clearly very high On drugs and you know I was sharing the gospel with him and explaining to him that none of us are good.

None of us can attain righteousness on our own. We need a righteousness. That's not our own. We need to be saved from our sins. We need Christ to change us and This girl in my group just kept saying to him.

You're just so amazing and Jesus just thinks you're perfect counteracting everything that I was trying to explain to him and so when we were done I Walked away and I pulled her aside and I said listen.

If we're not going to be preaching the same gospel together, we're not going to be able to evangelize together anymore and You know, she went about and did her thing and I did mine but we definitely did not evangelize together after that because that's not the gospel we're not perfect and You know, we know that we need a righteousness imputed to us that is not our own.

It's Christ and you know, you think of Jesus's own words, you know, Jesus. You know as he's getting ready to go to the cross says to the disciples he's gonna send the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit is going to convict the world of sin and unbelief and so you're out there telling people they're sinners in need of a Savior and The Bethelites from Hogwarts are out there telling people.

Oh, you're wonderful. You're the bee's knees. God just loves you so much. Here, let me do a magic trick for you. I'll lengthen your leg and you can see the power of God. Yeah, it's nonsense. Yeah, and all of that comes from John Wimber you know back in the day John Wimber used to teach this thing called power evangelism and.

And this you know, and you know I'm sorry but Bill Johnson is right in the stream of John Wimber and this nonsense and over and again you can go to scripture and you Can find you know examples in the book of Acts where there were no miracles Presented and people were brought to penitent faith in Christ.

You think of the jailer at the you know in Philippi, you know. There there's Paul and Silas and you know after being beaten illegally, you know, they're they're they're doing something quite ordinary.

You know singing hymns. Have you heard of this idea? And. And so this guy is hearing the gospel in the hymns. There's an earthquake the chains fall off. Nobody leaves and and this guy says what do I got to do to be saved and and Paul says whoa.

Whoa, whoa. Hang on a second here I got to do a magic trick first because otherwise I can't preach the gospel without right without power. Yeah, and then you think of the one time, you know Paul breezes into you know a pagan town and and heals a guy and they think he's you know.

They think Silas is Zeus and and he's you know, like your Hermes or something. It's just nonsense. And so they're they're gonna sacrifice sacrifices to them thinking that you know, the the you know the Roman Pantheon of gods, you know, two of them have showed up there in the flesh and.

And of course when Paul says no, no, no, we're not they decided to stone him and said yeah. So those miracles can get you in trouble, you know, I'm just saying.

Right, right. Say that if that God and I want to make this clear like a lot of people think that This is some sort of debate between Continuationists and cessationists and that is not the issue here. You know, the issue isn't if you believe that all of the spiritual gifts are for today.

That's a you know a secondary issue Conversation that we can still have but the issue here is that you're belittling the Word of God. You're not standing on the gospel message and you don't understand what it means for someone to come to saving faith In Christ.

Yep. That's the issue and also, you know, they're not practicing. It's like let's say that all of the gifts are for today including the apostolic gifts. They're not practicing Them Biblically, so if we took like the gift of tongues, for example, you know worship leaders there's will stand from the stage at Bethel and say everyone sing out in the spirit and literally automatically it's like everyone psychosomatic Lee starts singing out in the spirit or singing in tongues and Where are the interpreters?

Everyone's just singing in tongues and there's absolutely no Interpreter and you know Paul says that if you don't have an Interpreter, it's better for you to remain silent. Yeah, and Everyone in a church is not supposed to be singing in tongues at the same time.

Yeah, so you do believe that all the gifts are for today. Are you practicing them? Biblically, that's the question. Yeah, and are you elevating and exalting them above the gospel message? Because if you are that's idolatry.

Yeah. Yeah.

No, they you know, they're just looking for that next wave of the spirit to surf in you know go cowabunga, dude. Yeah. All right. So let's talk about your experience, you know prior to American gospel and then I want to talk about you know, how does one.

You know kind of backfill. You know, you know what you're missing because you know clearly you have you know God through his word opens your eyes and you and you realize oh my goodness I've been deceived and you know, the question is where do you go from there?

But prior to that and this is where you know. There's some similarity between your experiences in mind when I was in the latter rain I mean I got whisked up into this thing and so I I'm in my early 20s and at the time my wife and I were engaged and And you know, we were we were thinking that you know we needed some super powered Holy Spirit power to kind of supercharge our sanctification because You know, we just felt like we we weren't measuring up.

Of course, it has everything to do with the fact that we were hearing the law all the time and never the gospel and so, you know, we decided you know, this the solution was we you know jump into the charismatic movement and Where we landed, you know was a part of the the latter rain and at that time they had said that prophets had been restored and they were prophesying the future restoration of Apostles and The the church if and I'm using that term really loosely the church that we were attending we had a prophetess over us and Over and again, you know, they were very much pressuring me to receive This this baptism of the Holy Spirit as evidenced by speaking in tongues and It just wasn't working, you know I mean, you know and you talk about hours and hours and hours and there were so many temptations to just say I Internally, I'm gonna fake this so they'll leave me alone, you know.

Yes, I and and and of course internally you're sitting there going. How come they have this thing and You know, and I'm basically begging and crying out to God, you know I want this too, and and I'm not getting it and.

And you know, so you had some similar experiences you I mean you you arrive at Hogwarts and and the manifestations. You know so called of the Holy Spirit all over the place and and you want to be a part of it and how that Worked out for you.

The Pressure to Produce Manifestations and “God Thoughts”

Yeah. It really didn't work out for me. You know and just to preface again a lot of people will say oh, you know She didn't experience what we experienced and so she's just hurt and bitter and that's not it at all.

I have absolutely no bitterness in my heart about not experiencing What other people have experienced because you know, I've since realized from Scripture that these things are not God. They're demonic.

So praise the Lord that I didn't experience these things, but at the time it was really confusing Why I wasn't experiencing what everyone else seemed to experience. So An evangelism meeting at school one day there were People sitting in a corner breaking out and what they call holy laughter Which is just basically uncontrollable cackling and They literally would not stop laughing and I Just to be vulnerable like I I'm someone that has always like had You know, I've struggled with depression so I was told that you know if I could receive this holy laughter, then I Would have the joy of the Lord and I wouldn't struggle with this anymore.

And so I went and I sat in the middle of these people for literally 45 minutes because I was convinced that this laughter whatever this annoying thing was was going to fall on me and these people literally were sitting here pointing at me and laughing because nothing was happening to me and So there was that I mean, I can't even tell you how many times I prayed for the baptism of fire and.

If you're true, yeah, you don't want to do that.

But I was told that I Was told that it was speaking in tongues, so I'm like Praying for the baptism of fire and Praise the Lord I didn't receive the baptism of fire. But yeah, I felt like you know I kept asking for all of these things that everyone else was claiming to experience and I wasn't getting any of them.

And so, you know, I went through these stages and these ups and downs of feeling like, you know God is doing this for everyone else, but me. What if I'm not loved by God? What if I'm not really saved?

Yeah, it was it was Mentally torturous. Yep, because I didn't I Didn't want to even like think about the fact like what if I'm not really saved and like what if I'm not loved by God. And you know, it was just really hard but I was in a class called developing intimacy with God with one of their leaders and women pastors Leslie Crandall and she was going to teach us in that class how to hear the voice of God and I was told that because scripture says that I have the mind of Christ that I can think God thoughts and so Basically, I began to think that every thought that I had if it was even remotely, you know Scriptural or if it just you know, didn't go against scripture that it was literally God speaking to me.

And so Yeah, I mean that class obviously like right just complete ruin to any you know. You know anything left in my theology that was even biblical like I was just like off the edge at this point yeah, and Saying, you know, God's saying this to me and God is saying this to me and I took it to the internet and I made this Post about all of these things that I claim that God said to me which I was fully convinced at the time that he did say these things to me because I was told that I could have God Thoughts and it got around a hundred thousand shares.

So all of these blasphemous claims in the name of Christ are all over the internet and it's super embarrassing now Yeah, but you know what I meant, you know Unintentionally for evil God meant for good.

And so that platform that I received from that he's now using to Share this story. Yeah, which is so crazy. And.

And for sure for sure that was a breaking of one of the Ten Commandments taking God's name in vain. I mean to literally take your Your sinful thoughts and attribute them to God is blasphemy. I mean just straight out and And and so I mean call it what it is.

So, you know, and I'm glad that you said that they were blasphemous and yet the gospel says this that Christ himself He took your blasphemies on him and he bled and died for them so that you can be forgiven and pardoned.

So he became the blasphemer for you. So that you know so that you can be one who's kept that commandment properly so so yeah, and sadly I've committed all kinds of blasphemies when I was a in the charismatic movement, so.

The Cost of Leaving a Deceptive Movement

All right. So we've kind of sorted that part out the God thoughts nonsense. Good night. I mean other issue. How many thousands of students does Bethel have and from how many different countries do they come?

In first year, which was my class there was 1 ,500 people. And then in second and third year, there's probably a thousand in each class. So, I mean that's around, you know, four thousand, but there's nine thousand people in their Congregation and then just at Bethel as a whole there's over 60 countries represented and So yeah, I mean people come all over the world to go to Bethel because you know, it's viewed as the Mecca of Christianity.

So yeah. So when they you know get back to all of their different 60 countries and the Bethel School of Supernatural Ministry. The implication is is you're supposed to do Supernatural ministry once you arrive back as a graduate of Hogwarts and when you do that means you're on the leadership staff of different churches around the world they are and.

That can't be a good thing.

No, I mean people come here to Bethel to be equipped to be a Revivalist and so when they go back to their home country, it's basically they're expected to bring whatever this revival is back to their home church and The you know, they're expected to Change their church culture.

They're supposed to bring this kingdom culture to their church. They're supposed to bring these teachings and this power to their church. And so Basically like they're being sent back home to make their churches like Bethel and obviously that's terrifying.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's like a cancer. So or a virus or something like that. Yeah. Wow now when you think that your thoughts inside of you are you know our God thoughts? That just sounds to me like a formula for Playing the God card regarding your sinful desires.

When I was in the latter rain there were people in the church that I was a part of who were using their God thoughts to basically try to justify sexual immorality and In nonsense like that was did you experience anything like that?

You know God told me this and you know, and it's you know, you're you're my soulmate or nonsense like that.

Yeah, I didn't experience that at Bethel but I got a taste of that before I Actually came to Bethel which is interesting because I was in this, you know more apocalyptic end times sort of I Would call it a cult.

I would call it Bethel a cult if I'm being completely honest, but you know. This cult was also what you would consider hyper charismatic and the pastor of that cult Said that he was a prophet and he told me that God told him that I was supposed to be his wife and That we were going to move to Africa and evangelize and then I would be martyred.

So yeah, I mean I was preparing myself to die because of this word. Yeah. Yay. Oh, wow. Okay.

Yanks, that's frightening. And he was married. I'm sure.

He was not married, but he was old enough to be my dad. So Yeah, okay.

Yeah, Wow. Yeah, that's you kind of made the point. Yeah, okay. Yeah, so you watch American Gospel now you watch American Gospel and the light goes on. The Holy Spirit actually, the real Holy Spirit convicts you of your sin and convicts you of the false teaching and the false practices and.

You know, so day one. How on earth does one get their bearings. When they realize they've been deceived on such a high level because I mean you ended up staying there for five months. But you you had to fit you had to quickly figure out what you don't know.

I mean, that's kind of the hard part of all of this. It's like, okay I know I'm being deceived but the question is what do I don't know, you know? And and how and where do you go to get the resources to fill in so that you can you know?

Make sense of the Bible, but also of your own experiences.

Rebuilding After Deception Through Scripture and Church Community

Yeah, I Felt like my whole world was falling apart because I had built everything that I believed in on you know these truths and these miracles and power and whatever and So when all of that came crashing down it literally felt like it was the end of the world.

But at the same time it was like taking a breath of fresh air. So even though it was really really painful it was like, you know, I feel like no matter what like I'm on this narrow path now of Coming to know Christ for who he truly is and that's all I wanted.

That was the desire of my heart. And so even when I was deceived, you know I wanted to know Jesus, but I was led astray by this false doctrine and The appeal of what Bethel is doing and so, you know when God opened my eyes, it was really refreshed.

And but I didn't exactly know where to start and so I looked up every single person that was in American Gospel and I started listening to you know, Paul Washer and John MacArthur and John Piper and Then, you know, I I would stay up until maybe six o 'clock in the morning every single night and I would just study my Bible and I would test everything that I heard at Bethel against scripture and the amount of unbiblical nonsense that I was being taught was so evident as I began to study more and more and you know, so I reached this point where I was like something needs to be said and So I started to go public and you know I've just been learning ever since and so, you know I would get one hour of sleep every single night because I just needed to know the truth.

I needed answers and I knew that I I did not want to be deceived again, right?

And so I got my Bible and I didn't look back after that. Okay. So how come atheism wasn't a possibility? Atheism I Mean, yeah, I mean there I'll be blunt. There's some people and there's a percentage of them when you know, they wake up and they say this is just nonsense.

You know, yeah, they they not only become atheists. They become angry atheists like yeah. You know and like, you know, we're gonna go on YouTube and we're gonna destroy Christianity kind of atheists. There's a whole percentage of people who come out of movements like that.

That's that's their story. How come that wasn't appealing to you? Well, because.

Obviously, it's all God that kept me from that path. Because I can totally see how it's possible. And I can totally see how it's possible to just go completely the other way and decide that you hate God and that you know You want nothing to do with?

Christianity but I knew in my heart and God convicted me to the point of sickness. So I knew that he was real. I knew that Jesus Christ was God and I knew that the Bible was true and I also knew that the Bible said that you know God has given me all of the evidence that I need to know that he is real in Romans 1 and Also that before you know, I had this realization and I came to know God.

My heart was a hater of God's truth. I didn't like his truth. I didn't really like who Jesus Christ truly was and My heart was completely opposed to God and so or at least who he truly was so I knew what the Bible said and I knew after I was convicted that what was said was true about me and So I knew that I couldn't go that way and I knew that I would be lying to myself if I even tried to Go that way and so, you know from that point on of your conviction.

I Just sought the truth and I found it, you know.

Yeah, so yeah my wife and I when we had our eyes open to the false teaching of the latter rain it was it was practically instantaneous and it was the Word of God that opened her eyes and. You know and we realized I mean like in a second.

Oh my goodness. We're in a cult and. At that point, you know, my wife asked the question, you know, what are we supposed to believe? You know and the only answer I can come up with at the time was you know I think the Bible is true, but I'm convinced.

We really don't know what it says. Yeah, because of how easily it was manipulated to make it look like it taught things that it didn't. Yeah, in fact that that's the skill that false teachers and wolves had that have that is very frightening is Uncanny ability to take the Bible and like use it like a balloon animal, you know, look it's a bunny.

It's a sword. It's you know, it's it's a coconut tree, you know. It's weird how they're able to you know to manipulate it in that way. So, all right, so you're you're kind of backfilling quickly and you're not getting any sleep.

Hopefully you're sleeping now. Yeah, so so all right, so you're you're you're imbibing on MacArthur and all the different resources out there by the people who contributed to the the American Gospel documentary alright, so I'm sure as you started speaking biblical truth in the context of Hogwarts you probably were.

Having your relationships cool down. Extremely did it become winter there in Bethel pretty quickly as far as your relationships with your other students.

Yeah, I mean and it was literally winter when I had my eyes open to the truth. So, you know yeah, I became very cold very hostile and Not from my end but from you know other people and so it was like I was I was showing the film of American Gospel to some people that I was close close with and It was so strange to me that these people weren't having the same experience that I was having.

And a lot of the people that I showed were in this hyper charismatic deception for much longer than I was. So, you know, I've since come to that like the deception is so much deeper the longer that you're in it.

But you know, I was sharing all this stuff on Facebook and I remember you know doing this public post to Chris Vallotton who is the prophet of You know Bethel school and their church and it was about his book the supernatural power of royalty and on page 114 of the workbook He starts talking about how we have been given the power and the ability to forgive individuals cities and nations of sin so I can forgive the the nation of Mozambique of sin and I asked him through Facebook messenger if we could have 15 minutes to talk so that you could answer some of my questions in person at school and He said no that's not possible, but I appreciate your hunger and so, you know I made the ability to meet with these people and it was denied.

And so I realized you know there's not there's not any going back for them and what I'm concerned about now are these students and You know the people at their church, and so I'm going public with this.

And so I started calling out Phil's false teachings of you know His false kenosis theory. Yeah, there's a false gospel I called out Chris Vallotton for you know. The blasphemous statement that we have the ability to forgive individual cities and nations of sin.

It's almost you know, like Roman Catholicism like we have if we have that ability.

I mean we could we could actually solve the sin problem or like just give me a few minutes. Give me a globe would you. Let's get this done, you know?

Right. I mean and that's really terrifying to think that like that's actually a thought in their mind because it's also so arbitrary. And so like what if I decide that I don't want to forgive someone of their sins that day.

Are they just not going to be forgiven? Who is the forgiver of sins? It's Christ. Mm-hmm. So It's just super super twisted but yeah, I went public with all of this and I eventually got kicked off of the Bethel School of Supernatural Ministry page because I basically called someone out for a post that they put up about how they were laying in the school parking lot and someone used their leg as a holy ghost machine gun and Was literally shooting people with his leg to get them drunk in the spirit so.

Excuse me for calling it out. Excuse me. How dare you pardon? Hey, you clearly are blaspheming the Holy Spirit by denying that you can use your leg as a machine gun. Wow. Okay, so winter has set in and now they're starting to tighten the circle at this point.

So class time, you know, I Mean did people stop having lunch with you? Are you like sent off to you know to eat your meals by yourself? I mean what happens to you socially in this situation and what's going on as far as like, you know.

Family, I mean does your family think you've lost your mind?

Isolation, Family Strain, and Being Labeled a “Leper”

Yeah, well at school I felt like basically like a leper because I Was walking around feeling like the girl who is unclean. Because I was being told that I have this religious Demonic spirit and that I'm a Pharisee and so, you know I'm walking around and it feels like everyone's looking at me and they're trying to avoid me because I have the spirit and.

So that was really hard and you know. Eventually, I had no friends and so I was always alone I was always sitting alone. And so, you know. It was really difficult and you know. My mom is the only person who is saved and she has since also, you know come out of the charismatic hyper charismatic deception and but at the time she was still in this deception and so when I was telling her about all of These things and telling her how God opened my eyes and led me to repentance.