April 18, 2018 Show with Michael Gaydosh on “Should Christians Only Read the Bible Since it is Our Only Inerrant, God-Breathed Rule of Faith?”

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Introducing the Topic: Whether Christians Should Read Only the Bible

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And unless it's a telemarketer on my line right now, I'm hoping it is Michael A. Gaydosh, who is my very first pastor after becoming a born-again believer, after being delivered from the false religion of Roman Catholicism.

He's an ordained Baptist minister and founder of Solid Ground Christian Books, and today we are going to be addressing the theme, Should Christians Only Read the Bible Since It Is Our Only Inerrant God-Breathed Rule of Faith?

And it's my honor and privilege, hopefully, to introduce you once again, Michael A. Gaydosh. Well hey, Chris. I'm glad to be able to relieve you. Thanks. And yes, I have a throbbing migraine today, but I believe that with God's mercy and grace I'll get through the two hours, even though you're my guest.

No, Buzz is not with me. In fact, he is headed to Buffalo tomorrow to spend a couple of weeks with his mother and brother up there. Oh, okay, good. But Buzz has actually not been on the program for a while.

He's been very busy, but perhaps one day soon. In fact, he is going to be, God willing, a guest of mine when I do a week's worth of programs on eschatology. I'm going to be having a different view represented of all the major views every day for maybe even seven days, rather than just Monday through Friday, because especially with post-millennialism, you need to have at least three, because there are so many different kinds.

That's also true of premillennialism and non-millennialism, honestly. Yes, but I think there are even more post-mills. At least they get more upset if you're misrepresenting them, or if they think you're misrepresenting them, because you're defining what somebody else believes rather than what they believe.

Yeah. But I am covering historic premill and dispensational pre-trib premill, so those two will be covered with that. But I've done this before. The last time I tried to do it on the all-new Iron Sharpens Iron Radio, we were having serious difficulties with our equipment back then, and thankfully for over a year, I believe, it's been now that we haven't had any technical difficulties, well, at least not serious ones.

And so we're going to do that again, God willing. But Buzz is in the process of writing a book on eschatology. He is a post-millennialist partial preterist, and I am going to be getting him to discuss that at some point.

The Sufficiency of Scripture Does Not Mean Christians Need No Other Books

But before we go into the topic at hand, and obviously as soon as I remind our listeners that you are the founder of Solid Ground Christian Books, that's answering the question immediately that we are posing today, should Christians only read the Bible since it is our only inerrant God-breathed rule of faith?

Obviously you would say no to that question, but tell us about Solid Ground Christian Books. Solid Ground began 17.

Years ago, and the purpose of Solid Ground is to seek to further the glory of God, and promote a Christ-centered material. The desire that we produce, our goal is to have people to be driven back to the Scriptures and to be driven closer to the book that we are worthy of being want people.

And so to appreciate the fact that the Bible is the only inerrant inspired word, we have recently published the 1689 and available in many different forms, but we have it done in a hardcover cover of leather edition.

We are actually begins with, so we do not see it, and began also with, was not contradictory in any way to a high view. A person makes a statement, people will make statements, advertisement that I, and I've bit my tongue a lot when I make a statement like that, because obviously even just.

So I'm hoping that you responded, I'm sorry. Did you say something, I can't read what you wrote.

Yes, now that would be another thing I suppose I could say. I usually will ask them, I'll say now, do you read the Bible? I'm assuming you mean you studied Hebrew and Greek, and so you go back and read the Bible in the original language, and of course they're going to say, okay well then you're reading a translation, and obviously it is a work that, which is a work produced by fallible men, which even just in saying I read the Bible only, you are, and what men have done in translating that Bible.

You can't go back to really translate, do you not ever, have you never read Bible, you'll have Bible, you know, if you can show, they're really not being, you could then ask a question, get up in fallible words of radio.

Well again, those are very inconsistent, people don't just simply gather around and read the Bible to each other, explain it. The Ethiopian eunuch, he was reading the Bible, he was 63, his response was?

How can I understand it unless someone teach me? That's right, how can I.

Understand, even in the Bible itself, we have, was, it needs to be explained. In fact the.

Bible itself, the God-breathed, inerrant words of scripture, give very strict qualifications for someone to be able to be a teacher or a shepherd in the church. Now if he only needed to be literate so he could read the Bible, then that's all that would have been needed, but obviously he needed other qualifications because he was doing more than just reading the Bible.

Exactly, and I.

Think that at the same time you have the qualification, you also have the fact, and literally in that context of Ephesians 4, you have the ascended Christ giving gifts. Why does Christ give pastors and teachers to the church if all the church needs to do is the Bible?

The teachers are there for what purpose? To teach and explain the Bible. Well what are these books who were gifted? I mean that's, that is the purpose of every one of the books, is to help us the history of Protestant.

You might say, well that doesn't end in every case. It speaks about how men taught the scriptures and how revival came through the scriptures. I mean what was it that happened in Martin Luther's life?

What caused him to attack the 95 theses? He did not understand. He began to search through what those texts of Martin Luther did. Very, very by that, not in a pejorative way, but just saying a person who really hasn't thought through, and they might be.

A person. In fact some of those people I have met who were in cults, and they are afraid of listening to the errant, fallible teachings of men, because they knew what it was like to be deceived by cult leaders, so they try to struggle through just reading the Bible themselves, and very often those same people don't even want to join a church, unfortunately.

No, you're right, and I.

Think that in fact, here you go, I just had a person five minutes ago that responded to this. If you could only own one book in your life, which would you choose? There you go, the Bible is all. Now there you go, there you go, a person making the statement that if you could only own one, but that's not the situation.

If we were forced to choose one book, what would it be? Well, it would be the Bible, but we've not been forced to choose that. That's forced to choose one book, and the Bible is the book we choose. Well then, do we need the Bible?

The Bible is the only inspiration. It doesn't mean it's the only, or geography. You need these extra tools to be effective. You need translations, and oftentimes the people have made this comment on the only people that have ever done that.

And they didn't discover that by.

That position of King James Onlyism by reading the Bible. They discovered that through King James Only preachers, teachers, or advocates, or tracts like.

Chick tracts or some other... You're right, that's a good point. I think that is not from the Bible alone. You would have to, like you said, somebody taught them that. Even the King James, it's many, many times since 1611.

Right, they are not.

Holding in their hand the actual 1611 King James Bible. Well, they could because they are available. But I mean the predominant number of people who have a.

King James Bible or not. Don't have, no, you're right. And they don't know that, again. They're ignorant of that. It's almost like when you have a Jehovah's Witness, and they make state, you fully well know that these things are...

When you, I think in the Bible, I said, do you know who translated the Bible that you are? I said, you know, you can't find out who they are. They won't even tell you who they are, and they won't tell you what their qualifications are.

All the translations at the very beginning, who translated NIV? We know who the men, the qualifications to translate, and the Jehovah's Witness would encourage people to do. Like this, own one book in your life.

I mean, that just does you. Now, let me just clarify something here,.

Though. In one sense, when it comes to our salvation, the bare minimum of what we need, and I emphasize the word need, is the Bible. And even if you want to reduce what we need, it's the gospel being at least declared to us, being preached to us, being explained to us.

So, in one sense, we don't even need, as an essential, a Bible, because there have been people saved throughout the centuries just by hearing the word declared. But, the issue is, is it a wise choice to only remain reading the Bible and nothing else?

Isn't that really what the issue that we're.

Discussing is? Yeah, it is. It really is. And I think that, because you're dealing with, this really is a discussion, or it should be a discussion, to know the Lord Jesus Christ, who has received, by grace, the Bible.

If we were shut up in a situation, would that be enough? A relationship, a closer relationship with Christ? Well, yeah, it would be. Had no earthly teacher bring a person to the Lord Jesus? Yes, he can do that.

But that isn't the situation. The ministry is life, first of all, training personal life, and therefore sit underneath godly people who Christ gave to the church so that we would become more and more like Christ.

I mean, that's what Ephesians chapter 4 is all about, that we might become more like Christ, that we would be unified together, misled by false teachers. In fact, one false.

Teacher I can think of immediately, the late Harold Camping, would have the audacity to tell people, don't read commentaries, don't read books about the Bible, just read the Bible alone. In fact, he used to wear a button on his lapel that said, the Bible alone or the Bible only, which was very odd for him because he was from a Christian Reformed background, and yet he rejected the use of the three forms of unity, the standards of the Dutch Reformed branch of the Reformation.

And his followers, in fact, I will not mention the person's name, but let me just say that his last name literally means, from bat dung, but anyway, this person who, when I tell you off the air, you'll immediately remember him.

He was a disciple of Harold Camping. He had a very cultic attachment to Harold Camping, and before Mr. Camping declared the prohibition against going to churches or belonging to a church, obviously the Campingites typically would usually bounce from church to church to church, usually just to announce some kind of declaration upon that church that it was heretical or insufficient or whatever, inadequate.

And this one person in the lobby after the church, after you had preached, I'm walking towards him and he's got this sour, angry look on his face, and I said, what is it now? And he said, you know what's wrong with your pastor's preaching?

He's always quoting Charles Spurgeon and Jonathan Edwards and George Whitfield and Martin Luther. Why doesn't he just stick to the Bible and Mr. Camping? I said, what? I said, stick to the Bible and Mr. Camping?

Do you think that Mr. Camping has written something that's a part of the canon? What are you talking about? And it is really remarkable how his closest followers were so blind to the contradiction in that credo that he had, read the Bible alone and of course read.

The books that I write. Exactly. Yeah, his book 1994 and all the other books that he produced, those were the only books people were allowed to read. And I remember the time that we had met with, it was Bob Cameron of 93.

You know, we were just, did not see the inconsistent causing to the church. And again, it's that, it's taking that view of the Bible only, the Bible is sufficient, which we believe. We believe in the sufficiency of scripture, we believe in the finality of this, and ultimately the gifts that Christ has given.

In fact, you remember, and what was it that they were, what they said? I'm of Jesus. I'm of Christ. Now, Paul doesn't rebuke the, he rebukes the fourth as well. And you'd think to yourself, now wait a minute, why would Paul be rebuking somebody?

Because what those were, all we need is Jesus. Or, I believe, his argument, even though he says, and in the end, he says, why are you, we are all yours. Paul is yours. Again, what we're recognizing in the church, grace and knowledge, you can't ignore the gift.

If they will not receive you, and the people demanded Samuel was broken to, they've rejected. And that's ultimately what we're doing when we ignore the gifts, the gift in this case,.

The Role of Teachers, Commentaries, and Church History in Understanding Scripture

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The Bereans, John 3:16, and Reading Scripture with Presuppositions

Welcome back, this is Chris Arnzen. If you just tuned into our show today, Iron Sherpa's Iron Radio, we have as our guest Michael A. Gaydosh, ordained Baptist minister and founder of Solid Ground Christian Books.

We are discussing, should Christians only read the Bible since it is our only inerrant God-breathed rule of faith? And the answer to that question has already been revealed, no. And our email address if you would like to ask a question, whether you agree or disagree or you're just not certain with our guest Michael A. Gaydosh and that question, would you please email us at chrisarnzen at gmail .com C-H-R-I-S-A-R-N-Z-E-N at gmail .com and please give us your first name, your city and state, and your country of residence if you live outside the USA and only remain anonymous.

If your question involves a personal and private matter. And we have already a number of people waiting to have their questions asked and answered and let's see here, let me start with Gordy in Mechanicsburg and I just had a wonderful lunch today in fact with Gordy's new pastors at the Bible Baptist Church of Shireman's Town, Pennsylvania.

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Thanks for your commitment to the publication and republication of so many excellent biblically sound books. Discernment is so important in the reading of Scripture and extra biblical books. Please give your thoughts on how our traditions and presuppositions play a role in our discernment.

Oh that's great that's an excellent question. Yeah why don't you answer it Chris. Well the only thing I think of immediately is that we have to be like the Bereans and question everything that somebody is teaching us according to the Bible no matter who the person is.

Even an Apostle in the case in the Scripture, the Apostle Paul didn't complain that that people were questioning what he was saying.

As a matter of fact, the noble-minded and those in Thessalonica because they received the Word with eagerness a personal growing knowledge of the Scripture whether the things that and I think that all of us obviously come with presuppositions we already come with an understanding and many people will use John 3 16 as a club in the end of the day.

There are some believe the Bible but there's a there's some people that only believe John 3 6 their whole doctrine of three in order for us to make sure that standing and applying John 3 16 to the doctrine of salvation because with many people they just read it Christ died for everybody God wants everybody to be saved because he's voted for them and Satan's voted against them and they have to break the tie and it's entirely in their hands.

And they'll just quote John 3 16 as that we can really. And in fact wouldn't you say.

That that one of the reasons why people misunderstand those are not Calvinists or reformed Christians misunderstand John 3 16 and and other passages that refer to the world in Christ's death for the world and love for the world is that they are reading the Bible as 21st century or even 20th century or even earlier than that Gentiles.

They're not reading the book the Bible as first century Jews who would find that shocking that he was that Christ was including those from out of every tribe and tongue and people a nation as the the chosen of God.

That this was something that was horrifying and shocking to the Jew. And so so the word use of the word world is not supposed to mean every person who has ever lived or will ever live. In fact there is a movie and I'm not recommending the movie I know I've mentioned it on the show a couple of times.

It's it's promoting a very dangerous heresy but it's called come Sunday. It's the biographical story of Carlton Pearson who was a very well known African-American Pentecostal graduate of Oral Roberts University and pastor of a megachurch in Tulsa Oklahoma who became the first one who advocated the fact that those who were ignorant of the Bible and of Christ and the gospel like the poor innocent native quote-unquote in Africa that those people would certainly be in heaven then he then he evolved or devolved depending upon how you want to look at it into a total universalist and then he later would include within the fellowship of true Christians unrepentant homosexuals where he is today.

And the interesting thing was is he was reading those verses with the presupposition of an Arminian that that all these people everybody in the world must be saved because Jesus died for them. In fact he actually in Universalist actually have a I think a better understanding of what the atonement of Christ or the redemption of Christ that was accomplished through his death.

They have a better understanding that it was a total complete and final act where they are totally wrong and dangerously wrong and damningly wrong is when they think that every single person was redeemed.

Because of that the power of the blood of Christ and the fact that he bore our sins in his body on the tree of understanding able again to compare you gave you did an excellent job because you were well taught.

Of course when you first began you you were taught many years ago. That old is used in the Gospel of John. We need to see how it's really defined more in the book of and when when our Lord is described as being worthy because he purchased for God with his blood men out of every tribe and tongue.

And in Revelation chapter 5 repeated in almost the same language in chapter 7 the language of the every tribe tongue people and nation. That really is what John means by the in his gospel. Behold the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of become a universalist.

If you don't in some way limit either the term take away the entire world you either have to weaken the word take away and I've heard people do that. They'll they'll say well he does. He doesn't mean it just means lift it up.

But it'll come back down upon them if they don't accept or some will say well yeah Christ bore all the sins except for the sin of unbelief and arguments.

That are used and in fact that the the word or the phrase that John the Baptist used is even more dramatic than that because it's takes away. It's not just a provision of atonement it's taking away. And I can even I quoted you very recently by the way on the show because I remembered vividly how you phrased it in a sermon on this issue.

When you said people who are anti Calvinist will very often say John the Baptist said behold the Lamb of God who taketh away the sin of the world. And you said what about. He took it the way the sin of the world he takes away the sins of world he said.

What do you want to fiddle with. Do you want to fiddle with what Christ accomplished on the cross. Or do you want to fiddle with what he meant by what John the Baptist meant by world. Yeah and.

That's even even John the Baptist I think we would have to admit that John the Baptist if you had pressed him at the time and had interviewed him with your rapier like intellect be able to interview John the Baptist and had asked him well what do you mean by the world.

I'm not sure that John that exactly what the Lord may were told that the problem the things that they were writing. And so I think that there is that understanding there is an under the writers of scripture time spoke in in ways that even they didn't fully and that that one must die for the nation.

And he didn't. It says he did he was the high priest but he didn't even understand. Think that you have you just have so many things and carefully and compare one scripture to another. And in in that sense you might say well well then you're are actually arguing for having the Bible alone.

Well the Bible is indeed the best interpreter spirit continually given gifted to help us to understand the once and reading the sermons many others in the found that's what we have to be able to do is continually go back any book we read helping us.

That's really what the goal is of every book that we produce at solid ground and I would hope every publisher sadly we've seen publishers through the years that have less careful about the things that they publish and they will publish things that they publish it frankly because it's got there are many many books that I got by the way we have to go we have to go to.

The Atonement, John 3:16, and 1 John 2:2 in Context

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