March 27, 2017 Show with Joe Carter on “The New Media Frontier: Blogging, Vlogging & Podcasting for Christ”

The Meaning of Blogging, Vlogging, Podcasting, and Microblogging

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We see you a happy Monday on this 27th day of March 2017 and in studio with me is my co-host the Reverend buzz Taylor. Hello. It's good to be back again. And we have returning to our program today Joe Carter.

He is a senior editor of communications at the Acton Institute. He is also editor for the gospel coalition he is the Communication specialist for the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission of the Southern Baptist Convention.

He's an adjunct professor of journalism at Patrick Henry Henry College and Award-winning blogger at the Evangelical Outpost. Today We are going to be addressing a book that Joe Carter contributed to the new media frontier blogging vlogging and Podcasting for Christ and it's my honor and privilege to welcome you back to iron sharpens iron.

Joe Carter. It's always a pleasure to have you on brother and I want to write off the bat give our audience Our email address if they have questions, our email address is Chris Arnzen at gmail .com chris ar n z n at gmail .com and Please give us at least your first name your city and state and your country of residence if you live outside of the USA and Joe I'm sure that a great number of our listeners, especially since a Very large portion of my audience listens to this program on the Internet.

They are no doubt either blogging themselves or reading the blogs of others and if you could describe to our audience, perhaps the the folks that are My age and older because I'm just getting used to this Internet Terminology myself.

In fact one of the words I had never heard of before and in the subtitle of the new media frontier. But tell our listeners what blogging is and I know it has some kind of a combination of web log to the the nickname.

Yeah blog is just a website where the entries are written in kind of a chronological order. And they're kind of Reverse order and so the the content is kind of usually produced once a day and maybe once a week.

But the older stuff is on the newer stuff is on the top. It's just kind of like the publishing platform where common people can can put their own thoughts. Do their own opinions without having to go through?

Some kind of other media format. So it's essentially just a place to publish your own ideas.

And I guessed that Vlogging must have something to do with video logging. Am I right?

Yeah.

Caught on from when we first used it about 10 years ago. Yeah, this just means a video blogging where instead of writing out the entries somebody usually just.

Record themselves on video and post the video and believe it or not. There are still some of my listeners some of them some of them even my age or younger than me who do not know what a Podcast is. If you could explain what a podcast is because my program is not only Livestreamed and is not only on an FM radio station in Lake City, Florida.

But it is also a podcast as well. So if you could explain to our listeners what that means.

Yeah, I kind of converted to a digital format and loaded it up on The web and once it's loaded on the web, it can be downloaded to say somebody's iPhone iPods, you know any kind of Tool like that to kind of listen to on offline.

But you can also usually listen to them on the web on a website. And so it's kind of a way to create your own radio show Where you can stream it live over the internet or somebody can download it over the internet without having to go through a radio station or some other medium.

So kind of the the distinction between well I mean the thing that kind of unite blogging blogging and podcasting is that your control of the medium and you can kind of put your thoughts out in a way that Traditionally was reserved for people who had access or power to.

Newspapers or TV or radio and I guess a tweet would be somewhere in that mix as well. And the president of the United States seemed to be having a good old time with that. Much to the dismay of a large portion of our citizens, but also to the delight of another portion.

Yeah, this is a Recently in probably the last five or so years We've seen what's called micro blogging which Twitter is kind of a micro blogging site. The Twitter is only 140 characters long so you can only post like using a single thought.

It's kind of like blogging in very short form. And that's kind of taking off. It's also kind of Facebook is kind of taking over a lot of the roles of blogging because you can post your own thoughts on Facebook now.

Somebody doesn't have to go to a different website to see your stuff. They can see your material and somebody else's. So social media is kind of taking over a lot of the roles that Blogging used to do.

Blogging for Christ: Gospel Priorities and Content

So a lot of people who are you know Already active on social media such as Twitter or Facebook are doing a lot of the same things bloggers did. They're just doing a different format and.

What we do have already a Listener who has asked a question. And we have Mary in Shillington, Pennsylvania. Who wants to know in the opinion of your guest is? Blogging in the name of Christ doing more harm or good for the body of Christ and For the lost world around us at large.

We have to separate blogging the medium The from blogging the content that her question could be kind of similar to. Do radio shows Christian radio shows do more harm than good. Do Christian television shows.

I think it all comes down to the content that's being used on these mediums. I think the medium itself can have some effects. For example Twitter. It makes people thinking in With it and that can you know charge you concisely, but they don't create full thoughts.

They don't make sustained arguments in Twitter form. So the format can have an effect, but I think overall the content is what really matters. I think I've seen a lot of people use blogging For the good of good of the kingdom to really reach the lost.

There's a lot of great apologetics blogs. Examples your show about podcasting. I mean some people probably only hear your show through the podcast because they don't get it live or on the radio station.

So the format I think All that depends on whether it's good or bad depends on the contents that's used used to promote the message.

By the way, Mary You have won a free copy of the book that we are addressing today the new media frontier blogging vlogging and podcasting for Christ, so we need your full mailing address in Shillington, Pennsylvania so we can have that shipped out to you.

A compliments of our friends at Crossway who have published the book but also compliments of our friends at Cumberland Valley Bible book service, which is CV bbs .com. That's CV for Cumberland Valley BBS for Bible book service.

Calm and. We look forward to hearing from you In the future with more questions. Mary in Shillington, Pennsylvania is a first-time A questioner, I don't know if she's a first-time listener, but she's a first-time questioner and because of that She is also getting for free a free copy of the New American Standard Bible.

Compliments of the publishers of the NASB and Also compliments of Cumberland Valley Bible book service will be shipping that out to you. So keep your eye open in the mail. Mary for a package from CV bbs .com.

At CV bbs .com we also have another first-time questioner Daniel in Bakersfield, California. How do we keep the message of the gospel the primary focus when podcasting and blogging about Social justice issues too often.

It seems to take a backseat. Thanks, I guess he's saying too often the gospel seems to take a backseat to social issues. It seems to be what he is is asserting here. And so how can we keep the focus? On the gospel.

I.

Think one of the things we can do is to to take time to make sure we craft the message. We want to send instead of just rushing something out and I think too often we kind of Come up with a message and then kind of try to back fit it to make it fit The gospel rather than other way around.

So we start off with our own political views and try to justify using Bible verses Rather than starting with the gospel and saying how is this really if I really thought about this What would be the implications and then producing content out of that rather than the other way around and it's good.

It's tricky because we we always want to be first. We want to be fast. We want to get our message out quickly without really oftentimes without really taking time to to think through the issue Carefully and making sure that we put in the gospel first rather than just content.

So I'd say that the key thing is just taking your time make sure the Your priority is straight make sure you have the right motive. I think that's probably a big key too often. We want to get our message off the wrong reasons to promote ourselves promote a book.

We're selling promote our agenda Rather than promote the gospel. So I think just keeping the gospel first and in our minds helps us produce content that make sure.

It comes across throughout whatever now. This book has a number of contributors. It's edited by John Mark Reynolds and Roger Overton and They also have contributing to this book Matthew Lee Anderson Terrence Armentano Matthew Epinette I am probably mispronouncing that name Epinette Fred Sanders David Wayne Mark D Roberts Todd Bolsinger Rhett Smith Jason Baker and Scott Ott and Steven Shields.

Quite a number of contributors you are among them of. Obviously as I've already mentioned Hugh Hewitt has written the forward of. What basically are you primarily covering in this book?

Kind of the basics of blogging for people who don't. I've never heard about blogging never got started. Kind of explaining some of the tools you could use to get started. And also cover along with. Matthew Matthew Epinette.

Cover blogging. The bioethics. How we can talk about bioethical issues such as in the life issues abortion things like that using a blog.

And let me read a couple of the the accolades that have been written the commendations for this book. A Philip E Johnson not to be confused with a friend of mine who's very frequently heard on this program Phil Johnson who's the president of grace to you the TV radio and literary ministry of John MacArthur.

This is a different Philip E Johnson author of Darwin on trial and reason in the balance. He says this wonderful book explains how a new technology of communication is revolutionizing our culture and how Christians can and must use the new media properly to spread the good news.

And then also Dan Kimball pastor of Vintage Faith Church and author of they like Jesus, but not the church. He says the new media frontier is a much-needed book that looks at the historical philosophical and biblical wise.

Whypastrophe s behind of the rising communication forms of blogging vlogging and Podcasting. These are powerful opinion expressions and tools that can be used for good bad and ugly purposes. So we'd better be prayerfully and intelligently thinking about the words we type or say all persons with a computer whether living in a major city or in an unpopulated rural area.

Now all have the same instant ability and potential to build and courage challenge or tear down others To an unlimited audience on the internet. You will not look at blogging vlogging or podcasting the same way again after reading this book and that's quite a powerful Not only Commendation but also powerful reasons why we should be reading this book and spreading the word about it.

We do have oh. By the way, I forgot to mention Dan and Bakersfield Carroll, California. You've also won a free copy of The book that we are addressing The new media frontier and we are also going to ship out to you a new New American Standard Bible because of the fact that you are also a first-time questioner on the program.

And we hope that you keep returning Often in the future with your questions for our guests. Let's see. We have CJ in Lindenhurst, Long Island, New York. Who says this seems to be the breeding ground for slander and People can hide behind their keyboards in the darkness of their own Basements while spouting out like experts on things and destroying the reputations of others.

How can we counterbalance this? Horrible side of blogging.

That's the next question something I've been concerned about for 15 years now. I think one of the key things is that If you're going to be a blogger, you should put your name to your work. I'm completely against anonymous blogging.

If well, let me clarify that if you can be an anonymous blogger. You shouldn't criticize other people if you're going to criticize other people you're going to criticize other ministries or criticize People by name you should put your own name to your work.

So I think that would take care of a lot of that and also lets people see what your credentials are if somebody's talking about Issues such as the gospel and there and then you find out they went to some Heretical church, it's easier to kind of see where they're coming from and kind of understand That they're not qualified to speak.

So I think making sure people understand who you are. What's your what your background is that way they can have some kind of reputational capital behind what you're saying? I think that would Prevent a lot of the slander stuff.

Unfortunately, there's a lot of people that don't mind I don't know the people under their own name, but that's one that's one way to kind of stop that I think the other is just accountability. All the people who read who wrote this book together.

We came out of a conference. We held in 2005. All the people there at the conference knew each other. We got to be we read each other's blogs and we held each other accountable. We would actually email and call people out and say listen, you were wrong to call, you know slander this person.

You need to apologize. And so there's some kind of accountability. Similar to what we have in the local church that kept people from Just using their platforms for the harm of the church now, unfortunately is you know, ten years later on Blogging's got more fragmented.

You have your own little communities where people just kind of encourage each other to slander other people. So it's got a lot harder, but I think one of the things is stopping an enemy and holding Increasing accountability.

I think those are the two patches that could change a lot to stop some of these problems.

Hold on one second. I just want to thank CJ for his question and guess what. CJ and Lindenhurst, Long Island, New York. You're also getting a free copy of the new media frontier blogging vlogging and podcasting for Christ.

Thanks so much for contributing today's program with a question and my co-host Reverend Buzz Taylor has a comment or question.

This is something that I'm interested in because some friends and I are starting a blog. But it seems to me that I've seen.

I'm sure the apocalypse is not far away. Now.

We've read articles and then seen some of the For lack of a better term idiotic responses to them and stuff that people do. You know, it seems like accountability is almost impossible when you're online.

And what about saturation to. I mean like if. Okay, we're starting a blog. What are the chances that people are going to come across our blogs with so many of them being formed?

And that's a good question that was the question I had myself when I started blog back in 2003. And it depends a lot of of how much time and effort you put into it. What if you're putting quality work what the purpose and intent you're doing if you're doing it to just?

Satisfy yourself thinking because you need you have an important thing. You need to be heard. You probably make a big difference. So if you should serve others you have a greater chance of reaching people.

But I think that's the problem is today that a lot of people want to use their blog just to to. Because they're they're angry. Frustrated they want to use that to as a kind of a backlash and unfortunately It's easy to get people to pick up on that doing temporarily because everybody's because you're agreeing with what other people say.

I think one of the key things I think every blogger should be every Christian bloggers do is make sure somebody in their church Especially somebody in leadership Knows they have a blog that reads it and will call them out if they're if they're stepping up a line in ways that are Unchristian, I think that's one of the piece.

I mean, I know a lot of people step on the blog that they would never.

Yeah.

Yes, I mean I I have even unfortunately When I've been involved in disagreements with people on Facebook over It's typically over doctrinal issues. And I believe Although I'm not sinless. I believe that I for the most part when I'm stating a theological belief of mine, I believe that for the most part I use tact and.

Use.

Some bit of reserved Polemics when I am criticizing those of other beliefs but When someone lashes back with slanderous heated nasty remarks I cannot always say that I have Nobly responded. But do you got any advice on?

How we can be more controlled reserved Maybe even adult when we respond to people even if they have Heated and nasty responses to something that we might post. Two things.

We need to do and hold in mind all the time is that I tend to Engage politely at first and then it gets more and more heated and then I kind of step over the line. And fortunately, I'm fortunate to have a lot of friends that will will call me out quickly on this.

They will you know, text me or email me or call me and say listen you need to apologize you're you're talking to another Christian brother in a way you shouldn't or Christian sister in a way you should and that kind of brings me back to reality like what I'm saying online is not just being heard between me and this person where Anybody in the world can see this and am I representing Christ in this?

So again goes back to accountability issues. You just have people that will call you out on this stuff. It makes it a lot harder the next time to get involved. The second thing is I think people just need to step back and remember people.

There's going to be people who disagree with you. I know it was found an opinion. We care about we wouldn't just go there yet online we do the same thing. Of course, we're gonna get straightened out when we wouldn't do this in the replay key.

He's not he's not in our lives. It doesn't have any effect on our lives. So why can't we just let his opinion pass? Yet online for some reason we just kind of answer it up. So I think we withdraw a little bit is not that important sometimes it is somebody important.

Maybe it's a preacher that they follow or some teacher that they think's misleading. We don't know need to go full integrity by responding to him in ways that are hurtful to the church and hurtful in the kingdom.

Yeah, I have been more frequent these days with the block option on Facebook and I think that there's nothing nasty about that, especially if you are just trying to prevent unnecessary squabbling and Hateful speech that that has erupted as a result of something that you either posted or are responding to and You were also very often, you know, these things can be a real leech.

For your time it could be really robbing you of such valuable time that you could be Using in other ways not only for your own livelihood or career But for your own family and your church and so on is this not very often a time leech.

Absolutely, and that's something I should I should have said at the beginning that 99 of people should not start a blog. They should spend less time online less time on social media if they're not going to get much value out of it.

And even those who do think there's some kind of value to it. They really need to limit their time. Recently, I just came back from vacation where I took a week off sit off social media altogether. And when I came back I decided I'm gonna spend no more than 15 minutes a day on social media.

And it's kind of hard to do because my wife put it back that it's made a huge difference because it's freezing me up for All kinds of other stuff. I mean, I don't know how many times people tell me they don't have time to read the Bible.

They don't have time to read good Christian books. And yet they spend hours online on Facebook arguing with people get offline. Find something more productive to do and make sure the time you do spend online Is very productive and that you're getting something valuable out of it, but it just it's a way to kill time.

We have our J in White Plains, New York in fact. What I think I'm gonna do is I'm gonna read our J's question and then during a station break, which I will immediately go into. You can have time to mull over his question and respond when we return.

But our J in White Plains, New York wants to know. I hope you didn't cover this already and excuse me if you have. But what are some? Highly suggested building blocks for the most successful and appropriate blog.

Especially in regard to the Christian faith and the gospel and That's a very good question. And we will have you respond to our J after we return from our initial commercial break here. If anybody else would like to join us on the air with a question.

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Everyone needs a pastor. Welcome back. This is Chris Arnzen. If you just tuned us in our guest today on iron sharpens iron radio is Joe Carter. He is one of the contributors to the book the new media frontier blogging Vlogging and podcasting for Christ and if you'd like to join us on the air.

Our email address is Chris Arnzen at gmail .com. Chris Arnzen at gmail .com. We did have a question from RJ in White Plains, New York before the break and he wanted to know Joe your suggestions for building blocks for the best blog about the Christian faith and the gospel.

Frame it and say Not everybody not every Christian needs to have a Christian blog. I think that's an important thing that a lot of people think that because they're Christians. They need to share their faith online and they get online.

They start getting asked questions that they can't answer but they get the wrong answer to and they ask the people I think they have the good intentions, but know what to say. So if you're not in a position where your church your local church would think yeah.

This person's qualified to teach you should probably shouldn't start a blog that reaches out with the faith correctly online. And I think what we could what we need more of is blog that focus on a person's calling.

In fact what in fact.

Not only is it that not everybody needs to but there are many people who definitely should not.

Absolutely, absolutely. There's a lot of great Christian blogs.

I mean.

There's a lot of pastors who spend a long time thinking about the scriptures that are really good. And using the blog format to get the message across. Now if you want to link to them have a blog that links to them or promotes them until that's great.

But look at what's your own interest or what? It's God called you to do if he's called you to be a mechanic a blog about cars or About answering people's questions about you know What is this knocking sound of my car mean things like that or we can use our own skills God gave us and use our own interest promote Ideas in a Christian way.

There's a way to talk about cars. But it's in a good using our creativity to use to use the platform for those kind of services I think is better than just starting another Christian blog just kind of mimics.

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We do have a listener all the way in Slovenia Joe says. Please ask brother Joe to help me with something that I seem to have difficulty with. I Have two Facebook pages that I use for ministry purposes.

One is geared toward the lost and is evangelistic and Polemic the other is geared towards Christians who support my ministry. The main problem that I have is that whenever I post anything that is serious weighty or pointed Etc. I get very little interaction from my audience.

Whenever I post anything light silly or Extraneous there is a flood of likes and silly comments. It seems that almost no one wants to address serious issues. What to do question mark? Thanks for any help you may be able to offer.

That's an exit. I do not be discouraged by that. That is the natural state of the world. I think a lot of people misunderstand that the format of the Internet. They assume that because there's millions of people out there.

They're gonna find thousands or at least thousands of people that will want to. Have a serious weighty discussion on issues and this has never been true. I mean Look at people how many books a very few people are actually gonna read your book the more serious it is the fewer people are going to read it.

Because people have limited space they have limited energy most people have a Job they want so when they have their free time. They want to use it for kind of entertainment purposes. And the media critic Neil Postman in 1980s when you saw my TV.

That was a main format. He says the best things on TV are using the dumbest. Promote good solid thinking on through TV. That's you know, that's the way it is on Facebook. It's really hard to promote good solid material even in a short form like Facebook, so.

The people who do respond are gonna be very few but they usually respond more thoughtfully than the masses will. So I think we need to set aside the idea that we're our purpose is to try to read them.

Reach the masses with serious content and just try to reach a handful of people that you can have a big impact on. I think personally now I'm to the point now where I'd rather influence a few key people in a serious way.