October 31, 2018 Show with Stephen Atkinson & Mitch Tepper on “The Attack Upon Tree of Life Synagogue: Christian Evangelists in Outreach to the Jewish Community Respond to the Largest Fatal Attack Upon Jewish Citizens of the USA Upon American Soil in History”

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This is Chris Arntzen, your host of Iron Sharpens Iron radio, wishing you all a happy Thursday. What day is today? No, it's a Wednesday, sorry. I have been so busy lately I just lost track of the actual date.

Wishing you all a happy Wednesday on this 31st day of October, Reformation Day 2018 and I'm so delighted to have two returning guests on today to speak about something that I wish we didn't have to speak about.

Of course there is a lot of what we are going to be addressing today that I love speaking about and that is evangelizing our Jewish friends, families, loved ones and neighbors, but it is the reason for this program that gives me great sadness and I'm sure everybody who is listening is still not really quite has really not quite snapped out of the fact of this horrific event that took place last Saturday where we had the largest fatal attack upon Jewish citizens of the USA upon American soil in history and that was the attack upon the Tree of Life Synagogue in the Squirrel Hill area of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

Christian Witness to Israel and the Guests on the Program

To discuss this today we have my friends Stephen Atkinson who is the director of the North American Division of Christian Witness to Israel and we also have Mitch Tepper who many of you may remember was just on recently.

He is the new missionary for the North American Division of Christian Witness to Israel and unlike Stephen, Mitch is actually a believing Jew, a Jew who has embraced Jesus Christ as his Messiah and God and it's my honor and privilege to welcome you both back to Arnie and Trump and Zion Radio,.

Stephen Atkinson and Mitch Tepper. Well thank you Chris and yeah it is a very sad occasion but we're at the light of day as well. And of course there were 11 people who were murdered at.

This assassination which people may be thinking that there must have been other occasions in American history where more Jewish citizens have perished. I'm sure that more than 11 Jewish individuals died at the attack on the World Trade Center at 9 -11 and so on and perhaps even at the Pentagon building.

But this was specifically a targeted attack which is why it is identified as the largest fatal attack upon Jewish citizens of the USA upon American soil in history. This was intended specifically to be the murder, the assassination of Jewish individuals.

Go ahead, I'm sorry. Well before we get... I just wanted to say like I think the one.

Thing that really strikes me in all of this and the one thing I want us to begin with this was you know people might spin this this was as you rightly say an anti-semitic targeted attack. I think it's important for us to recognize it was an attack upon individuals and not just you know not just numbers not just you know the largest number etc.

Certainly I just you know I've been reading articles as you these people as individuals and weep with those who weep and because I don't want it to read just like... Bernice, 86, 75, Melvin, 88, 97 and their families and loved ones weep with those who weep at this time and I think you know that there's where we must begin whatever way we continue the conversations in any...

Oh no that was a perfect perfect way to be begin uh brother. Let us... We also want to start by saying you know so much of this has been politicized and we get we are telling anyone who's listening we are not politicizing it in all the articles whether it's it's against Trump we don't want to go there this is this...

Amen and.

Before we get any further into the actual subject at hand. Stephen Atkinson if you could let our listeners know. For for those of them especially who have never heard of Christian witness to Israel or the North American division of that ministry that you are the director of.

Uh why don't you.

Tell our listeners about CWI Christian witness to Israel. Well Christian five years ago coming only through this uh international thing that is needful and that is the gospel. So in short really we joy and purple concern there is community and in Chicago we want to witness thousands in Miami to be in all these Jewish areas.

But CWI support cannot say what other Mitch that I deal for may.

They be aware. And for the for those of our listeners who weren't listening intently to Stephen Atkinson let me just clarify some things. I just interviewed Mitch Tepper who is the new missionary for Christian witness to Israel's North American division.

I just interviewed him last uh when or two Wednesdays ago the 17th of October. Uh actually two weeks ago today it was the 17th of October and um when we were having this interview we had no idea obviously we're not prophets we we had no idea that this assassination would have taken place right in uh Mitch's backyard uh in the swirl hill area of Pittsburgh.

It is. I think the providence of God is amazing not only because of the geography involved that Mitch lives in that area but also because Mitch and Stephen had already reached out in some way to that synagogue before this even happened.

And it seems clear that God intends for these brothers to minister to these folks in some way. We have no idea what the outcome will be. We have no idea obviously that any souls will be led to Christ as a result of this but of course that is our hope and prayer and we could pray that with confidence since gods elect are from out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation.

Um and also I want to I want to let our listeners know something about CWI uh just to put some famous names that most of you will be familiar with uh to perhaps give you an idea of the importance of CWI.

Robert Murray McShane and Charles Haddon Spurgeon both had essential roles in the Christian witness to Israel ministry. Am i right. Stephen. Yeah yeah indeed it was uh the uh.

Several meeting and if you don't mind me saying and we you have that good theological heritage by astronaut and particularly so at such a time as this I want to say well what are we doing now. Theology.

And to come on to the radio person and theologize about. I think these are the other mixture churches in the synagogues. Down and that hasn't stopped. Uh in fact we're going to be doing one at. That's right.

They and I know we spoke by. Y 'all added the report. Is that our molar. Anyway he did it by semitic. In our stance we show that right now. There's so many now I think.

It would be a good idea uh just to get some more clear uh description of these folks at the tree of life synagogue in the squirrel hill squirrel hill area of pittsburgh. The the spectrum of religious jews is wide.

We have everything from the hasidic or ultra orthodox to the more modernized orthodox to the conservative to the reform jews who are liberal and the reconstructionist jews who are even farther to the left than their reformed uh jewish brethren.

Tell us something about this specific congregation. This is the youngest on the way. I think the youngest is 54. There are young children there. And it was a baby naming event which makes it more remarkable.

It was a yeah they had a break in a memorial there that day as far as I know. And that was oh yeah that that in itself is a miracle. And god protect you know. And obviously we grieve for the 11 and and the families that I got involved.

Um that I was going to get involved with CWI but really cemented it is when my mom passed without knowing it. And and incidences like this should cement in us how important it is for us. And we need to evangelize you know.

And our mission is obviously to evangelize things like this. Should should that's what it should bring about in us. It should give us an impetus. So you know I got to get out there. I need to share. I need to be more intentional.

I think that's the word that god has given me. And so many other people in this generation many times would be intentional. Praise god. Uh what do you. What do you say. Um in fact we want you to leave us alone.

We're okay. You know they respond another because they're great at that. And they're. And they just you know church can get together with hell of doing it in august over the head. Amen. And uh as we read in yeah I was just going to read isaiah 40.

Verse 1 uh comfort comfort. My people says your lord speak tenderly to jerusalem. Uh we really need to speak tenderly. Today there is a time for more aggressive evangelism. I mean I don't think that we should rule out the idea of street preaching in the Pittsburgh area.

Like for instance chosen people ministries. Uh one of your uh friends and uh fellow ministries in the Jewish evangelism uh area of of the faith uh they were also started a list. Might be surprised a lot of the uh dispensationalist brothers in christ that we have who love chosen people ministries and support them.

But they began as a reformed ministry uh through the street evangelism of presbyterians. Am I correct. I'm I'm sure. Yeah. Yeah. So I remember Mitch Glazer. Mitch Glazer. No I don't know. Mitch Glazer is.

Yeah. Mitch Glazer told me that uh fact that a rabbi or a Jewish individual is converted through the street preaching. Yeah. We we're we work together.

With the chosen people in fact we've done their dear ministry to us as well right. Well my whole.

Point was even though that that you can do something that is really a bad strategic move uh that gives a sends a wrong signal and and really uh will immediately give a bad taste in the mouths of everybody who witnesses it just because of the timing.

But that doesn't mean that it's something that would be out of the question. But um yeah. But uh but as far as the the now is the time for tenderness and compassion and to actually invest your lives in these people especially since you are nearby.

Uh that is uh. Mitch Tepper is nearby. Stephen Atkinson is in Tennessee correct. Uh. In Arkansas. In Arkansas. I'm sorry uh. But uh the uh it we that was the time just like if someone close to you whoever they might be uh is experiencing a great loss of a.

Loved one it's important it is important to be intentional and to be sensitive. And I would I remember very vividly born again really struck me the saddest thing that you said. You're right. And the sad.

And I reminds us that even in which Mitch wanted to bring that one message the message of Yeshua being born again. And I was at a conference in Kansas actually over we're speaking about being born again and and John 3 but they were again just reminded me that the being born again is not a Jewish dog.

Exactly what Ezekiel was was. Well you mean it didn't. You mean it didn't originate with the Christians that it didn't. Or yeah it didn't originate with with Christianity. Jeremiah prophesied that. Let me come back from our first.

We're going to a break right now Mitch. Uh.

You could chime in immediately when we come back. Yeah I'm gonna piggyback off of when I get back. Sure. And I also want to get into the roots the facts and the philosophy the actual roots of where all the anger and hatred comes from specifically in regard to the Jews.

And uh if anybody would like to join us on the air with a question of your own our email address is chrisarnsen at gmail .com. C h r i s a r n z e n at gmail .com. Please give us your first name your city and state and your country of residence if you live outside the USA.

And please only remain anonymous if your question involves a personal and private matter. I just want to quickly before I forget tell folks if you want to after this show is over. Uh if you want to look up the interview that I recently conducted with Pastor Lowell Ivey.

Uh I just had that interview on Monday the 29th of October. He was a white supremacist gang member in prison who came to faith in Christ and he was an anti-semite. He fantasized about doing the very thing that that satanic assassin just did in Squirrel Hill.

He actually believed at one time that that was a wonderful thing to do and all part of what uh the master race so-called should be doing. And this also shows that Jesus Christ can even save a satanic individual like that through the gift of repentance and faith that he has received.

And of course he has renounced that evil as damnable and satanic. And no longer has any kind of bigotry and hatred controlling his life. So I just urge you to listen to that interview with Lowell Ivey that took place on Monday and his his last name if you type it into the search engine is Ivey.

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Have a great day. Welcome back. This is Chris Arnzen, if you just tuned us in. Our two guests today are Steven Atkinson, who is the director of the North American Division of Christian Witness to Israel, and also Mitch Tepper, a Jewish believer who is the new missionary for the North American Division of Christian Witness to Israel, also known as CWI.

We are discussing the attack upon Tree of Life Synagogue. Christian evangelists in outreach to the Jewish community respond to the largest fatal attack upon Jewish citizens of the United States upon American soil in history.

If you'd like to join us on the air, our email address is chrisarnzen at gmail .com. We do have a question already from Dr. George Sipioni, adjunct professor and director of the Biblical Counseling Institute of Reformed Presbyterian Theological Seminary in Pittsburgh, but I'm sorry, Dr. Sipioni, we already answered your question.

He said he tuned in late and didn't know if you had already discussed the history of CWI, so you missed that already, Dr. Sipioni, but I would love it if you wrote in another question. So think of another question and send that in because our guests already answered your question.

Go ahead, I'm sorry.

I was going to ask if there was another question because I didn't want to piggyback.

Oh yeah, I want you to do that before we get into the history of hatred against the Jews. Go ahead, Mitch. Sure.

Mercy, Urgency, and Sensitivity in Evangelism

Yeah, we're going to do 21 to 23, that leads to eternal life and having mercy on those who doubt, snatching them out of the fire with fear and by the flesh. God gave me a little acronym, what we'd like to do when we go into, we must do, that's what we must do is show mercy, that's the first thing that sometimes we need to do.

Other times we need to show urgency. You know, we see when the disciples lacked faith and we, do you think he screamed it out? No, I think he did it with much mercy that said, oh, let me give you more faith.

And there's the urgency. I mean, there's a thief on the cross. There's the sensitivity and my best illustration that I can show is that I, a woman with the issue of who was like, who touched me? You know, which sounded like a ridiculous sensitivity.

I think God wants to give us situations and not be stained by the sin that we are walking sometimes into and be able to keep ourselves. I think that what, amen. And one thing before I have Stephen begin on the origins of hatred of.

The Jews, one thing, one thing that I want to say is that I think that we have to be careful, you mentioned before about Mitch, about your mother, perhaps both of your parents, I can't remember. No, my dad's still alive.

Yeah. Okay. Your mother then entering into eternity without Christ. I think that we do have to be careful not to act as if we are omniscient because we don't know for certain, you don't know for certain that somebody may have evangelized your mother.

I don't know if she was, I don't know if you were a Christian when she was still alive, but somebody, if you, either through your evangelism or someone else, we don't know what kind of echoing remembrance of that gospel message was going through someone's mind before they departed this earth.

So I think, I think we have to be careful not to immediately assume that people that we know are in hell because we just, unless we are with them when they are taking their last breath and they're cursing God, there is a mystery there about, like for instance, if the family of the thief on the cross who came to repentance while he was hanging there next to Christ, if the family had not been there to hear him repent or they did not later hear of it from the apostles and evangelists, the disciples of Christ, they would have thought that their loved one had gone into eternity without a repentance in faith because they knew he was a thief.

So, you know, we just have to be careful. But if you could, Steve, start off with the.

Roots of anti-Semitism in your opinion. Well, I think that there's already had, you know, I went on that and I simply want to go back and make the point that it's not happened in America. And if that is recognized the art and respond appropriate comments and I want to get that right out there that this, what this guy did was a naked anti-Semitic attack people and nothing new.

And I suppose we have to be diabolical because of the Tanakh and the God is that he is not here by him. And therefore we, the church, need to identify why are they here? What is our calling towards? And I think, go ahead, Mitch.

I was just going to say, I mean, there's just some certain bet in Yahoo and every generation, they are guilty when they are killing nothing new. This is classic anti-Semitism. In one generation, they are power, country dry.

In another generation, in another generation, when they are killing people. It's Arabs as well. So they are entangled with mysticism and nationalism. South came out, the evangelical church. In fact, I have some very conservative.

Orthodox Jewish friends that make those same claims about their liberal Jewish neighbors. So hatred is universal. No ethnic group or skin color can hold claim to the sole propriety of racial hatred or bigotry and so on.

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You can find their service times and location on their website, which is www .ncc .nyc. They believe in a sovereign God who commands all men everywhere to repent and believe the gospel. If you're looking for a church that believes in expository preaching, which is simply biblical preaching, in New York City, I'd like to recommend that you visit New Covenant Church, NYC.

Again, their information can be found at www .ncc .nyc. Have a great day.

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