August 17, 2021 Show with Bill Potter on “Exposing the Lies of the 1619 Project Fraud”

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Bill Potter’s Background, Landmark Events, and Testimony

And at the very enthusiastic urging of my very dear friend, Dr. Joseph C. Moorcraft III, who is pastor of Heritage Presbyterian Church in Cumming, Georgia, and also at the enthusiastic urging of his wife, Becky, I have invited on the program today for the very first time, Bill Potter, who received his B .A. from Cedarville College, his M .A. from the University of Dayton, and his Ph .D. from the College of William and Mary.

He's an author, a conference speaker, and chief historian for landmarkevents .org. And today we're going to be addressing exposing the lies of the 1619 Project Fraud. And it's my honor and privilege to welcome you for the very first time ever to Iron Sharpens Iron Radio, Bill Potter.

Thanks, Chris. I appreciate it. From the Moorcrafts, who are dear friends.

Yeah, wonderful folks, and everyone who listens to this program regularly knows full well that Dr. Moorcraft is one of my favorite guests, which is made evident due to the high frequency of my interviews with him.

Well, first of all, tell our listeners about landmark events where you serve as chief historian.

Okay, Landmark Events is a company that provides, say, a biblical world...

Now, when you say that you view history through a providence perspective, I'm assuming, being a fellow Calvinist myself, that you're talking about God's foreordination of all things that have ever occurred and will occur in heaven and on earth.

Indeed. In fact, I can think of no other fact of God's sovereign control over all events of history.

That gives me comfort during the greatest of trials that I have personally experienced in my own life. So to know that everything comes from his foreordination is a great comfort and should be to every single believer.

Oh, it is a great comfort.

And it's amazing that anyone would view our understanding of that to be preposterous and even ugly and depressing, and it even drives some opponents of Calvinism to go to the extreme of saying, a God like that I will never serve.

That runs chills up my arms and my spine when I hear...

No, they're serving their own God.

That's right.

Well, I'm going to give our listeners right now our email address. It's ChrisArnzen at gmail .com. ChrisArnzen at gmail .com. C-H-R-I-S-A-R-N-Z-E-N at gmail .com. If you have questions for Bill Potter regarding our theme, Exposing the Lies of the 1619 Project Fraud, please give us your first name, at least, your city and state, and your country of residence if you live outside the USA.

Only remain anonymous if your question involves a personal and private matter. Let's say your family or your church is promoting the 1619 Project Fraud. You don't feel comfortable at this point identifying yourself as being in opposition to them or anything like that.

We understand that you would be compelled to remain anonymous, but if it's just a general question on history, on the specific subject of the 1619 Project, on theology, general questions, please include your first name, at least, your city and state, and country of residence.

Oh, and although I intend to repeat this website later, for those of you who are interested in investigating more about Landmark Events, go to landmarkevents .org, landmarkevents .org. Bill, we have a tradition here on Iron Trip and Zion Radio.

Before we enter into the main theme of any discussion on my show, if I am interviewing a first-time guest, we always have that first-time guest give a summary of their salvation testimony, including what kind of religious atmosphere they were raised in, if any, and what kind of sovereign, or should I say, providential circumstances our sovereign Lord raised up in their lives that drew them to himself and saved them, and that would include you.

If you could give us an abbreviated testimony of your own journey to Christ.

Sure, I'd be happy to. I was born and abandoned a little to the sovereignty of God, probably before I would say. Now, I'm never out of the holes of my brothers. That's the thumbnail sketch.

Yeah, in fact, I was raised Roman Catholic, and after I had become a born-again believer, after the Lord, in his sovereign providence, guided me to a Reformed Baptist church, where I eventually, very quickly, collapsed to my knees and cried out to the Lord for salvation, and came to, after a couple of months, even embrace Reformed theology.

After this had occurred, I found out that my ancestors on my father's side of the family were Baptists in Norway, and they immigrated in the late 19th century to Brooklyn, Rhode Island, and Virginia, and I had discovered that many of my relatives, especially in Virginia, are still Baptists.

So, it was kind of an interesting providence to discover this after I was a believer, and it really warmed my heart.

That's very exciting.

Yeah, I have heard, if I'm not mistaken, from our mutual friend, Dr. Joe Moorcraft, that your ancestry even includes a martyr who was a Covenanter Presbyterian.

Yes, I recognize this faith.

Well, we've got to do a program on that in the future. If you enjoy yourself today and you want to return, God willing, let's have you back to discuss that very subject of your ancestor and the Covenanters in general, and aren't you writing a book on this?

Yes, I'm still in the 19th century and working diligently into it, and working diligently.

Now, how did you develop such a deep affection and enthusiasm for history?

Well, I would say that early in my life, all my grandfathers piqued my interest to play basketball, but they had a great history department, which was the number one. And from there to graduate schools that were not...

Praise God. I would love it if you or some very knowledgeable and gifted historian, Christian historian, would write a biography of the man who lived in the building I am sitting in right now, conducting this interview.

This is the former parsonage, 19th century parsonage, of a Presbyterian pastor here in Carlisle, George Norcross, who was the very first pastor of Second Presbyterian Church in Carlisle, Pennsylvania, which was created due to a church split from First Presbyterian Church, because Second Presbyterian Church was an old school Presbyterian congregation, and they had left First Presbyterian, which had become a new school, Presbyterian Church.

And from what I have learned, I just have learned a little, but from what I've learned of this man, he was quite fascinating, and his brother-in-law was a missionary to the Native Americans, planted over 100 churches, and actually rescued Eskimos from a famine by being the first to import reindeer from Siberia to Alaska in order to rescue these Eskimos.

And Time magazine lists this missionary as one of their top 10 Alaskans of history. This is the brother-in-law of Reverend Norcross. But I would love for somebody to pick up that project and do a thorough biography.

Oh, what a family.

Yeah. Wow.

The Origins and Claims of the 1619 Project

Well, we are discussing a very controversial issue today, and I've gotten a lot of enthusiastic responses from those who have heard about this interview I'm conducting with you on the 1619 Project Fraud.

And if you could, first of all, tell us about this 1619 Project. What is the significance of the date, and why was this project launched?

Well, they are the main writer of it. The center of another theory, a toolkit of white supremacist opinion. Much of these things actually have been being taught, the project is brand new, but the idea until Black Americans made it, Hannah Jones, the Journal of American Capitalism is brutal.

You can trace that to the plantation. Another one is, why is everyone always stealing Black music?

I think anyone who loves Black music should be very complimented. Not that it's being stolen, but that it's being imitated. I love a lot of music that would be categorized that way, including especially the older Black gospel music.

Oh yeah, well, and it goes on and on like this. It's the timeline of African-American history poems and the Rainbow Coalition. It did not happen overnight, the 1619 Project. So did James B. McPherson.

And they came out with a...

In fact, could you pick up right where you left off there, because we have to go to our first break right now.

Sure.

But this is very important, so don't forget where you left off there, because I've got to hear more about this. If anybody wants to join us with a question of your own, send it to ChrisArnzen at gmail .com.

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And that was the 1689 London Baptist Confession of Faith, not the 1619. Some decades off. But anyway, we are interviewing today Bill Potter, who is the chief historian for landmark events .org. We are discussing exposing the lies of the 1619 Project Fraud.

If you have a question, send it in to chrisarnson at gmail .com. Give us your first name, at least city and state and country of residence. You just before the break, Bill, were starting to introduce to our audience some historians who negatively responded, pushed back as it were, on the 1619 Project.

And from what I understand, a considerable percentage of them are even correctly identified as liberals.

Historians Push Back Against the 1619 Project

Yeah, let me give a little bit of a timeline here too. 400th anniversary, many, many years. And in 1619, three things happened. One was, it was not to bring women with them.

They forgot?

What a thing to forget.

They remembered when they arrived. The idea of slavocracy to commemorate critique, the critique that remains among other strong reservations.

Even acknowledging that much of the information is false, or at least a substantial percentage.

Of it.

We've got to use it.

But the idea, right, the idea of it. Interesting article that was published shortly thereafter in The Atlantic. The title, let's see, I might even have the title here someplace.

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I didn't find it, but I remembered it. And it's something to the effect that the problem is not by using that as the headline, saying, using that headline and saying that we all agree on the facts. I don't agree because Angola, a Spanish ship, declared to be criminalized, operated out of Jamestown illegally.

They brought them into Jamestown. They went to the governor, plantations along, and 90%, none of that appears. And he traced his genealogy back and he found that he was descended from these. So what he discovered, Black America, the first African-Americans and the people to buy land, members of the colony.

Virginia leased down and discovered descendants of these first, some of the very first Americans that because they were cattlemen back in Africa, they even brought some of their cattlemen vocabulary with them.

Yeah, in fact, Joe Moorcraft told me that.

Yeah, that's right. They were taken by these English privateers and they were sort of in a no man's land until the governor, certainly enough. And if I, in fact, let's pick up right where you left off there.

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Give yourself unto reading. The man who never reads will never be read. He who never quotes will never be quoted. He who will not use the thoughts of other men's brains proves that he has no brains of his own.

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Solid Ground Christian Books is a publisher and book distributor who takes these words of the Prince of Preachers to heart. The mission of Solid Ground Christian Books is to bring back treasures of the past to minister to Christians in the present and future, and to publish new titles that address burning issues in the church and the world.