December 11, 2018 Show with Maurice Roberts on “The Christian’s High Calling”

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Lake City, Florida and the rest of humanity living on the planet earth who are listening via live streaming at ironsharpensironradio .com. This is Chris Arntzen, your host of Iron Sharpens Iron Radio wishing you all a happy Tuesday on this 11th day of December 2018 and it is my honor and privilege to welcome back as a returning guest one of my favorite guests to interview Morris Roberts.

Morris Roberts is the editor of Banner of Truth magazine or should I say he was the editor of Banner of Truth magazine from 1988 to 2003. He is the author of a number of books including The Thought of God, Great God of Wonders and Can We Know God?

He was the moderator of the Free Church of Scotland Continuing's General Assembly in 2007 and he is a lecturer in Greek and New Testament at the Free Church Seminary and has been there since 2002. Today we are going to be addressing his book by Banner of Truth, The Christian's High Calling and it is my honor and privilege as I said to welcome you back to Iron Sharpens Iron Radio, Morris Roberts.

How do you do? Nice to be listening. It's great to have you back as always brother. I always find it a thorough blessing to interview you and so do my listeners that report back to me. It's a great privilege to meet you, thank you.

And I am very much looking forward to this as always. First of all before we go into the topic at hand, The Christian's High Calling, why don't you tell our listeners about The Banner of Truth magazine and The Banner of Truth where you served as editor of the magazine from 1988 to 2003.

The Banner of Truth magazine was started.

Writing and The Banner magazine is still going strong. Praise God. I enjoy The Banner of Truth.

Very much. Their publications are always phenomenal in regard to their biblical faithfulness and the gifts of the writers who have these works published through The Banner of Truth. You can never fail with a Banner of Truth book, not that they are infallible and inerrant like the God-breathed scriptures of course, but The Banner of Truth has such discernment and wisdom in regard to who they publish and what they publish that it is a home run every time I have read a book published by them.

Now tell us a little about the Free Church of Scotland continuing. That is probably going to be the most unfamiliar aspect of your life as a minister in regard to that denomination in the United States because there are only a handful that I am aware of of congregations that come from the Free Church of Scotland continuing in the United States.

So tell us.

A little bit about that. Yes, I'll say something about that. The Free Church of Scotland began in Was to adhere to the Westminster Confession of Faith and to the Some of us in the Free Church ministry and office bearers and members with the opinion that...the denomination which is now no longer maintaining those principles are adhered to in the Westminster...

Praise God. And we can provide you with more information on that denomination if you would like to find out more about it after the program just by emailing me at chrisarnsen at gmail .com. C-H-R-I-S-A-R-N-Z-E-N at gmail .com.

Last but not least tell us about the Free Church Seminary where you are a lecturer in Greek and New Testament. I was a lecturer. I'm now.

Retired but I was for a number of years a lecturer, that's right. We meet in a nice building but we managed to buy a bedroom also from time to time. Well, now let us move forward to the Christian's.

High Calling which is the subject of our interview today and also the topic or the title of a book published by the Banner of Truth. First of all, what was the background which compelled you to.

Write this book? At the time, editor of the Banner of Truth this evening, the Christian Great God of One, written by me initially as editorial articles and over the years it was...

Great, and by the way I want to strongly urge our listeners, especially if you are pastors or deacons or somebody in authority in your local congregation who makes decisions on ordering material for your bookshop in your church or perhaps just for your tract rack that you have in the Northex or the lobby of the church, I strongly urge you to order bundles of the Banner of Truth magazine to give out to your congregants and if you want more information about that you could go to banneroftruth .org, banneroftruth .org and find out more about these magazines, the Banner of Truth magazine.

I'm so glad that Grace Baptist Church of Carlisle, where I am a member, which was founded by Ernie Reisinger many years ago in the 1950s and then was pastored for quite a long time, 40 years in fact, by Walter Chantry.

I am delighted to be a member there now and we always have the Banner of Truth magazine available in our church lobby. Well, the Christian's High Calling obviously is of utmost importance because you are addressing the very pivotal issues of being a Christian.

Could you please start off with the nature of the Christian life to begin with?

I would start like this. The Christian life, the Christian view of life must first of all concentrate on the purpose what has given, God given us this life for. The answer is of God and to enjoy God forever.

Someone put it beautifully like this to God and our heart is restless till we find our rest in prosperity. And I was coming into Britain, perhaps also in America, but in 1960s called the new morality from what our forefathers had taught and believed in the past, a backslidden attitude came in.

So my concern in writing these articles was to try to get people to see we need above all else, that was my concern. Yes, in fact, you exegete Proverbs 29,.

18 in regard to this, where no vision is the people perish. Yes. What do you believe our.

Lord meant by that warning that the people will perish? That life is short, death is sure, sin is the problem, but only Christ is the cure and if people don't understand life in that light, prophet of man, the concern was to try to emphasize the fact, first one, we must know ourselves to be sinners is the only answer to sin and he laid down his life upon the cross.

The concern in life ought to be right with God by faith and that would be my answer there. And are those the two steps of.

Happiness that you speak of? They are, they are my two steps of happiness, yes. Yes, and that is an interesting title because it would sound, it's strange that we who are Reformed, things like two steps to happiness seems like a foreign phrase to us.

But if, but in reality, the Westminster Shorter Catechism, which many Reformed people use as a standard of faith, the chief end of man is to glorify God and to enjoy him forever, aren't we?

It is. That's a wonderful statement and that's exactly the emphasis we would like to make.

Amen. I'm going to give our listeners our email address if you would like to join us on the air with a question of your own. Our email address is chrisarnsen at gmail .com, c-h-r-i-s-a-r-n-z-e-n gmail .com.

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Evangelical Compassion and Repentance

You address the issue of evangelical compassion in your book, compassion strangely, but it is true that it is a controversial issue because you have some professing Christians who demonstrate what they view as compassion, but they ignore many of the warnings and prohibitions of the scriptures when they extend compassion to others.

They may do so by totally ignoring unrepentant sin in others or many other factors, where on the other end of the spectrum, I should say, you have sadly Christians who are so self-righteous, or at least professing Christians who are so self-righteous, that they withhold compassion from those that they deem to be unfit for it or less deserving of a blessing like that than they themselves are.

If you could address this.

Important issue in some reform of evangelical compassion. The Lord Jesus Christ had bad religion, and he had great emphases on the lack of money and lack of happiness, so we need to be straight with people and turn your back on the work of God.

But now, having said that, we must point out that if people say they are living in sin, that unless our life is radically changed, without works, and too many ministers, I'm afraid, in our part of the world are saying to people, we want you to be happy, come to church, it will make you happy, but our business is not in the first place.

Our concern is to bring people together. They need to be born as genuinely converted. They not only love God, but they now hate to live according to their previous lifestyle. They turn their back upon the work of God.

You mentioned something there in your answer about.

People needing the knowledge of God. Now, obviously, there is a knowledge that involves an intimate relationship with God, but there is also a knowledge of God that involves understanding about God from what the Bible teaches about him.

That is where we find, in an inerrant and infallible form, teachings about God, how we can know more about him, grow deeper in our knowledge of him. And it's interesting. I just got involved in a little friendly dispute with one of my biological brothers, who is not a believer, and he was mocking me for insisting that one cannot passionately love Jesus Christ and not know about him.

You need to study the word of God and learn more about him and learn as much as your human mind can possibly absorb about him. Of course, we can never fully understand God, because that would require having the mind of God, which would make us God.

But I was telling my brother that this greeting card kind of Christianity, where you could say that you love Jesus and know nothing about him. I told him that this is a sign. If you don't know anything about Jesus or very little about him, it is a sign you don't love him, because you're not making any effort to learn about him.

And anytime that you love a person or even a thing, whether it be a hobby or a subject, an area of study, whether it's sports or whatever, whenever somebody says that they love something, well, that reflects in their diligence to learn as much as they can about that person or thing.

And if you just say you love Jesus, but you're not reading the scriptures and studying them and going to a church where qualified ministers are preaching and.

Teaching about him, that's a sign that you really don't love him, isn't it? Father, Jesus Christ is the Son of God, equal to the Father in power and glory. And then I would say both God and man. And it's absolutely essential to understand that Christ is nothing less than the incarnate God.

And it took a human nature from the Virgin Mary, so that the sin of Adam would not be reckoned. People wonder how on earth could Jesus be God? And why was he born of a virgin? And Adam sinned, why he took a human, and therefore he can die for us and he can pay the price.

Justification by Faith Alone and Christ's Finished Work

Great. We do have some listeners who are waiting for a question to be asked of you and answered by you. We have Mary in Cork, Ireland. And Mary says, Good afternoon, Chris and Mr. Roberts. I am currently reading David Brainerd's journal, Sweetly Set on God by Dustin Binge.

Brainerd speaks of his duties being prayer, meditation on God's divine word, fasting and affections to God, preaching God's word, intercession, evangelism, etc. Brainerd longs to know God's holiness more.

And when he does, he gets an even greater glimpse of his own vile sinfulness. I am thinking that the only response to a high calling of God is to relinquish all claim that our lives are our own, and we humbly submit our hearts and wills to God's rule in our lives.

I know this is easier said than done, and that the Holy Spirit is the one who enables us as we cooperate with him for God's.

Glory. What are your thoughts on what I said? I'm very sympathetic with everything you say there. It's very edifying, a very prophet of Christ. The more we feel, and I must say that I do feel my own imperfection, my own shortcoming.

We wonder more and more how on earth did the speck of dust like put it within his mind? I'm with you, I think, and I'm sorry, we don't hear enough for that. Just one, and that is eternal life. That would be my answer.

Amen. And that is.

In contradiction to the heresies of the Roman Catholic Church that teach that we are not only receiving Christ's righteousness, but our own merits cooperate with Christ in order to make us worthy in the sight of God.

And Catholics sometimes are puzzled as to why we who are Bible-believing Protestants are repulsed by that notion, and we believe of course, obviously, that God is repulsed by that notion. In fact, he even says in his word that our righteousness is as filthy rags to him.

But why is that such an egregious and horrible thing to say, well, yes, of course, Jesus Christ was God. He died on the cross for us. He lived a perfect and sinless and obedient life. And yet, we must do something to add to his perfection and his death in order to make us right with his Father.

Now, why is that such a horrible way to think and teach and believe?

Well, the way I'd begin to answer that point is to say, when the Lord Jesus Christ, he said, it is finished, it is paid. He's completely satisfied because what he has done by his life and his death is absolutely to compensate.

The point I make there is, there is no room, therefore. But the second point I would make is, we have no right. And that has absolutely, that's what cannot add what, and the terrible Christ's righteousness is inadequate.

And therefore, it's very clear that we must, important point, of course, brings us back to that chapter, right? Praise God. And we have to go to our first station break right now.

And by the way, thank you, Mary in Cork, Ireland. We happen to know that you have a relative in the United States who will be receiving your free book, your free copy of The Christian's High Calling to hold on for you, to hold on to for you, I should say, for your next return to the United States.

So thank you very much for contributing that wonderful statement for us to ponder during this program. We're going to our break right now, as I said, and if you'd like to join us on the air, please send us an email to chrisarnsen at gmail .com, C-H-R-I-S-A-R-N-Z-E-N at gmail .com.

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Roberts, most well known for his affiliation in the past with the Banner of Truth, where he was the editor of Banner of Truth Magazine and a very popular conference speaker. He is discussing his book, The Christian's High Calling, which is a publication of the Banner of Truth.

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Only remain anonymous if your question involves a personal and private matter. We do have a question from Gordy in Mechanicsburg, Pennsylvania, and Gordy in Mechanicsburg, Pennsylvania, says, How does Christ's love for his people serve to encourage.

Them to carry out this glorious calling? The Christian life is full of difficulties, and we live in a world in which many people have no time whatever for. As a consequence, there are many factors in the Christian's life which might lead him to become discouraged.

So we need to say to ourselves, what might be used by the Christian to lift his mind out of depression and discouragement is nothing. And the love, we'll put it like this, that is, you are my friend. So when we find it within ourselves to wish to deny ourselves in our life, we're encouraged to do so by the perfect example of the Lord Jesus.

As one of the great mysterians, he put it like this, If Jesus Christ can be too great to make. Well, thank you, Gordy, for the excellent question. And since you live in.

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I do not believe I am guilty of this charge, although, of course, I am not sinless, and I may on occasion behave as if I have this mindset. But at the same time, I think I am demonstrating what would be known as a historical separation from those that have false Gospels and dangerous practices.

How do we both maintain a loving attitude and a patient attitude and a humble attitude with those that disagree without jumping the line over the modern ecumenical movement and embracing their sinful.

Union with those that deny the true Gospel? Well, that's a very good question. My answer would be that one of the facts that has been forgotten and overlooked or not understood by many professing the Ten Commandments or the moral law, the Ten Commandments, and that moral law is as valid for the New Testament as when a person has become a true Christian, then his duty to the moral law, trying to keep the moral law, is saved by faith alone in Christ.

So the point I'm making is the Ten Commandments and scoff at the serious Christians. And then it tells us, and those professing Christians, we might have as Matthew 5.

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You know, there is a biblical truth that you address in the book that is a very popular, or at least it's a very well-known teaching in the Scriptures. Even I think that there are many unbelievers with a cursory knowledge of the Bible that have heard this.

And the truth, the biblical truth, is that God's thoughts are far different from man's. If you could.

Get more in depth into that. An immense subject, obviously, because, put it like this, God has something he has made. People today look at the universe as some see an example of the immense difference between God's way.

God knows very well. He made the universe in six. Do not believe. Enjoy it as much as you can. But that's entirely opposite of what God is. Look at life as very short. Life is God. And that's the way God looks at it.

The whole world. How brief our life is and how soon every one of us will have eternal life in glory or eternal punishment in hellfire and outer darkness. No contrast could be greater. And that's what God does in the light of the fact that we make it our number one priority that we give our hearts to.

You have another chapter in your book that deals with the question why spirituality comes first. And there are those who are in the world, sometimes they are openly the enemies of Christianity, and sometimes they are professing Christians themselves, who have been known to use a phrase, so heavenly minded he or she is no earthly good.

And if somebody is truly heavenly minded, not one that just spouts out Bible quotes and proclaims deep truths of theology, but has a life devoid of the love and compassion of Jesus Christ, but people who actually love the Lord and just because of the fact that they will be very quick to evangelize and correct people when they are in error, and they will speak of God's truths, and they will speak of hard to understand teachings in the Bible, they will often be charged with being so heavenly minded that they are no earthly good.

But you really can't be too heavenly minded, can you? No, no, you can't be too.

Heavenly minded. Heavenly mindedness is what God requires. Heavenly mindedness is no, you're on the un-heavenly minded person. The more heavenly minded they wanted to have earthly minded, there's no earthly minded and heavenly minded we are.

And that is what we, but we must expect, no matter how much good we do, they will scoff at us because it's a football match.

And going back to your actual chapter title, why spirituality comes first, many people would reject that, especially those outside of the faith, but even some, perhaps, that are in religions that are connected with the false teaching of works righteousness.

But tell us what you specifically meant by why spirituality comes first. Spirituality means in a right relationship with God, living a life that is fundamental and the way we think is influenced by God.

When our minds are filled with Christian doctrine, the principles of God, that is why it's so important in doctrine and to meditate on Christ. There's nothing better to make sure we have the right doctrine and then when we have it sure, this spirituality of mind, our behavior, and the way we live our lives.

Spirituality, I would say, must remember that there is far more precious than anything else we have. What shall a man give in exchange for his souls is Christ. So the five elements of the soul are these, the mind and the real spirit by Christian law members.

So there's no doubt about it. And we have to go to our midway break right.

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