Matt Slick, Jeff Rice, Haps Addison, Michael Schultz, Keith Foskey, Claude Ramsey, Andrew Rappaport

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Cool, Jacobs Supply, make sure you check them out. Support him. He's a brother in the Lord and a sponsor of the show. Thanks, guys. So we got a good one here for you. When you're listening to this, it'll only be a couple of weeks before the Why Calvinism conference, which I will be broadcasting at live, podcasting down there.

Probably, I don't know, doing some talking in between and stuff like that. And we have some guys from that conference on now, and I have a few in the wings. We're just adding people. So if you're watching this right now, you're going, how many squares can he get up on the page?

And if you're listening to this, you're gonna hear a lot of different voices. You're gonna hear some introductions, but we want to talk about that conference, give you a little preview, and then maybe just introduce you to some new folks that you might not have heard on the podcast before, and you should definitely go check out.

So I'm gonna go around the horn. If you guys could just give us a little elevator, 30-second elevator pitch, and introduce yourself to the listeners, I'd appreciate it. Michael, let's start with you.

Okay, great. Yeah, thanks for having me. My name is Michael Schultz. The pastor of Antioch Baptist Church in Louisville.

Uh-oh, hold on there, Michael. We're losing your audio. We're gonna come back to you, okay? Check those levels, and then we're gonna come back. Let's go to the Rat Man, Andrew Rappaport. What's up, brother?

Hey, I'm Andrew Rappaport. I am the executive director of Striving for Eternity Ministries and the Christian Podcast Community. And so, yeah, I'm looking forward to the conference. It'll be a good one.

And I'm looking forward to a nice meal provided for me by Matt Slick.

Oh, next in line. First on the podcast, first time ever on the podcast, guys. Let's give it up for Matt Slick. Matt, introduce yourself.

All right, well, I'm Matt Slick. It's my real name. Learned to run as a kid because of that. I started karm .org 28 years ago. It's had 160 million visitors. I've been doing radio for 23 years. Written some books and generally like to defend the Christian faith.

I'm definitely Reformed. Definitely Reformed. I love Reformed theology. I would marry it if I could. That's how much I love it.

I love it. Moving right along, Keith Foskey.

Hold on, hold on. Matt, you wrote a book on dating, didn't you? Or at least, what was the title of that book?

How to Woo and Win Women by Being an Obnoxious Jerk.

That's the best title for a book ever.

It's a real book, folks. It's a real book. Go to Amazon. You can get it.

All right, let's get the bottom three on the row here. Keith Foskey, how you doing, brother? Introduce yourself. You've been on the podcast before.

Yes, sir. I'm Keith Foskey, your Calvinist on podcast, or your Calvinist on Twitter. And my podcast is the Your Calvinist Podcast with Keith Foskey. And I make funny videos and I make fun of everybody.

And that's kind of what I do. I like to make jokes.

I also love it too because you have a healthy respect for the self-deprecating joke, which I love too. And it's great stuff. Claude Ramsey. He's a friend of the podcast. Everyone knows who he is. What's going on, Claude?

Introduce yourself.

Hi, I'm Claude Ramsey. I'm pastor of Red Fermata Baptist Church here in Knoxville, Tennessee. I host, quite a little bit, I do have it anymore, the Here I Stand Theology Podcast. I am the happy Calvinist.

Yes, there are such a thing as happy Calvinist. Don't be an old fuddy-duddy stick in the mud. Be happy. By the way, I wanted to just share this to make, to remind everyone to enjoy Calvinism.

The Salonians 516, I love it. All right, Haps, give us the lowdown.

Well, I'm a happy, your friendly neighborhood Calvinist. And I'm happy the Calvinist, not the Calvin, not the.

Happy Calvinist.

What are you?

Happy Calvinist. The happy Calvinist, that's right.

And I'm one of the hosts of Open Air Theology and also the founder of Passing the Torch School of Apologetics and Discipleship.

Oh, I love it. And last but not least, it's Jeffrey Rice. Jeffrey's been on the podcast before. He's the one that put this whole conference together. So why don't you introduce yourself and then give us a little overview of what we're gonna see in a couple of weeks in Tullahoma.

All right, can you all hear me?

No. You sound good. You jumped in hot, guys. We didn't even test the mic, so here you go. You're hearing him for the first time. Yeah, I did.

For some reason, I can't hear myself through my headphones.

That's okay.

Okay, yeah, I got it. Yeah, hey, what's up? My name is Jeff. I'm one of the hosts of Open Air Theology and I pastor Covenant Reform Baptist Church. And one of the goals whenever I became a pastor was to put on conferences.

The problem was when I first became a pastor, we didn't have our own building. And so the moment we got our own building, I was like, okay, we're gonna put on some conferences. And so we tried out our first one last year, which everyone except for Matt was a part of last year and it went really good.

And I was like, well, I think we need to do one on Calvinism. But I didn't want it to be just like every other Calvinist conference. So I wanted to show the implications of it. Why does Calvinism matter?

Why should a non-Calvinist church adopt Calvinism? And also to show that Calvinists have fun, right? If you come to this conference, like you're gonna have so much fun. I don't know about you guys, but last February was one of the highlights of my life.

Right, just with the fellowship. And I had a big bomb drop on me, like nervous wise, last year from putting on everything and trying to handle all the chaos that goes around with putting a conference on.

And so, but I mean, so, but whenever I think back to last year's conference, I don't think about me dropping the ball. I think about how God glorified himself through what took place.

Audio Issues and Conference Introductions

Awesome, and before we get into it, I just wanted to circle back around to Dr. Michael Schultz there. You got better audio? Can we hear you? He's on the dock.

I can hear all of you, great. I don't know if you can hear me at all.

Much better.

There's just a delay.

Yeah, can y 'all hear me at all?

Yeah. So give us 10 seconds, Michael, who you are.

I may have to drop out just, yeah, just in case my audio is not gonna come through, but I don't keep you guys trying to back up with me every 15 seconds that we're talking, but I just, my name is Michael Schultz.

I'm the pastor of Antioch Baptist Church in Lewisburg, Kentucky, and I'm an associate professor of church history at Ford State Logical Seminary. Pleasure to be a part, love to be a part of the conference.

I'm excited to be as involved as I can be. I am gonna go ahead and back out so you guys can actually have a productive time here, but thank you for inviting me, and I look forward to seeing you guys in a month.

See you guys.

Awesome.

Thanks, Michael. All right, cool. So guys, I just wanted to get us all on here. We wanna talk about the conference. People have a few weeks to still buy tickets. Hopefully when this comes out, if we're not already sold out.

If not, we'll get in touch with Jeff and we'll see what we can do. I'm echoing Jeff as well, too. Last year, I just randomly went down there, and it was probably the best couple days of my life, just the camaraderie, the lifelong friends I've gained out of it.

I think everyone on here except for Matt, I met down there, and we've been still keeping in contact. So I wanna start with Matt since he's the only one who hasn't been on Dead Men Walking podcast. Matt, why Calvinism?

Why be part of this conference? Maybe can you give us a little sneak peek of what you'll be talking about or explore the space with us, as they say?

Well, you just gave me several questions. So why Calvinism? Because it's the most biblical theological system you can come to, and it gives God the greatest glory and puts us in our proper place down on the totem pole where we belong.

And we realize that God's the one.

Who saved us.

God's the one who granted that we have faith. God's the one who elected us. God's the one who predestined us. And that God is not, or Jesus is not the blonde-haired, blue-eyed Caucasian surfer dude dressed in a woman's nightgown, standing at the door of your heart, asking permission for you and your wisdom to let him in.

That's a load of theological crap. Sorry, but that's what it is. And so that's why Calvinism, because it gives God the greatest glory. And the humanist philosophy that's creeping into the Christian church all over the place is rampant.

And Arminianism helps support that. I'm not saying Arminians aren't Christians,.

But, you know.

And so the humanist philosophy that's there is refuted and pruned away by the weed killer known as Calvinism. And I love that. So we get sort of the theological crud. And I'll be preaching on Calvinism, or teaching, I should say, Calvinism and the gospel, or the gospel and Calvinism.

And I'll be talking about that. And I love Calvinism. In fact, I'm working on my Calvinist file. I have a Word document in outline form, and it's 92 pages.

Oh, love it. Yeah, karm .org, excuse me. Guys, make sure you check that out. I used it for years and years and years. Still do revisit it, go back there. Appreciate all the work that you put in there and all the resources that it has, Matt.

Can I talk about another website I've got?

Sure.

Calvinistcorner .com.

What's that all about?

Calvinist? Calvinism? It's my more advanced stuff. I put there rather than on Karm, because I don't want Karm to be a Calvinist site. But Calvinist Corner goes, I go into there. I go into supportive infobaptism, charismatic gifts.

Sorry, but I do. And it just really goes, I go into some stuff that a lot of, even a lot of Calvinists don't know about, and how God uses certain word patterns and things like that, and discuss those things.

Good arguments and stuff. So I get to update it, though.

Andrew.

When I was on Karm, I used to say that karm .org trained more pastors than seminaries, because every pastor goes to Karm to get their appraisal. But now we have to say that karm .org has trained more pastors than Rick Warren, which is.

Is that possible? Is that even possible, I wonder?

Not in Rick Warren's mind, but in fact.

Calvinism, Fellowship, and the Conference Atmosphere

All right, so Andrew, you piped up. So why Calvinism? Same question. Why is it important for today? Why attending the conference again? Give us the lowdown.

Yeah, I mean, it will be, I mean, it was one of the best conferences. I've told this to Jeff privately, was the way this conference is organized is one of the best. Because it's one hour of preaching, then one hour of fellowship, and back and forth, back and forth.

So yes, it's a couple more days than other conferences, trying to pack it all in. Jeff has a lot of fellowship time, and it's over like in time for dinner. And if you are really daring, you wanna come to dinner.

Because the dinner is basically a theology throw down every night. Greg, you and I were fortunately sitting next to each other in the Buffalo Wild Wings, where everybody was going after, well, I guess both of us, but it got to a point where they targeted you being a Presbyterian, and you politely.

Presbyterian? Greg here, the host of the show, the one that says dead men walking over.

The one with the big sign behind me that says dead men walking, yeah.

Yeah.

All right, I like you, good.

Yeah, so there'll be two Presbyterians there. And so, but Matt, you'll appreciate this. At one point, as everyone's giving Greg a hard time for being a Presbyterian,.

Greg just looks.

But it was great. It really was a time where we got good theology debated in a friendly way. Keith Foskey even made a video based off of that on what happens when different denominations go to Buffalo Wild Wings.

One of my most popular videos, the denominations order chicken wings. As dumb as that sounds, man, it took off. I will make fun of anything.

Okay, for the record though, Keith, did I pay the bill as the dispensationalist?

Well, if you'll remember, I had to leave.

I left.

And you did pay the bill. There was another guy. Well, I didn't.

You were the dispensationalist in your video. Ah, I see.

That's what it is.

You know, we're gonna go.

Yeah, you have to go watch that. His latest one, Matt, you should watch different denominations that do martial arts. It was hilarious.

They're good stuff. Very entertaining.

Are these all martial artists here?

No, he doesn't. Yeah, go ahead.

I am.

He's a black belt.

I teach karate, in fact. That's where I

What do you teach?

I teach Shotokan Karate.

Ooh, wow, nice. Yeah, I taught

I'm a black belt in run fu. I did Krav Maga for a few years, though. I like

Run fu?

Oh my God.

I love Krav, that's a good art, yeah.

I remember last time I was on camera with Keith, too. I think I called him, did I call you a fourth degree? And you were like, hey, I'm a fifth degree. I tried to steal a degree from you.

I was, I wasn't. I was only correcting you because you were wrong.

No, I'm just kidding. Well, that's often, that's often. I do love the variety and diversity we have here. We have Matt, who is training pastors and has a website that gives definitions and resources in Calvinist Corner.

And then you have Keith, and he goes, I make chicken wing videos. 14 million downloads last month.

You know, okay, that's the same thing, that he gets more downloads than Matt on chicken wing.

I'm just chicken wing videos, that's what I mean, hey. However you can reach him, brother.

When somebody's grandmother told them I was their favorite TikToker, that was sad.

Yeah.

That was really sad.

So.

Not just that they called me a TikToker, but because it was their grandmother's favorite TikToker.

Oh my God. You're bringing the silver hairs onto TikTok, I like it. All right, okay, Keith.

Think about this, though. Think about this this year. We got the same group of guys, but think about getting together with the same group of guys that we had last time, with everyone having the theological discussions with none other than on the topic of why Calvinism, with Layton Flowers there.

Oh yeah.

I mean, just think about what those discussions.

Are gonna be like, right?

I was just talking to him. We were just texting back and forth. I was making sure he was really coming.

Well, I texted him too to make sure as well. And so my talk, Greg, is gonna be, I'm gonna be dealing with basically the history of Calvinism. So I'm gonna start off with explaining, okay, what is Calvinist?

Where did it origin? Because it didn't really start with John Calvin. No, it didn't. You see the teachings in the scriptures. You see the teachings in Augustine. Now, I'm not gonna cover in detail the Calvinism of Luther because there's a whole topic on that, but I'm gonna deal with the Calvinism of John Calvin.

I'm actually also gonna touch on the Calvinism of Jacob Arminius, which got one person to go, ooh, ooh, I wanna see that. But

Just don't touch on the Calvinism of Andrew Rappaport.

Yeah. Well, no, no. Here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna do the Calvinism of John Owen. And then I'm thinking of adding in one of the Calvinism of Layton Flowers to explain how everyone corrects him and he never realizes his Calvinism doesn't fit with like every definition of Calvinism.

Yeah. So it's gonna be spicy. Okay, I like it. Keith, why Calvinism?

Well, because that's where the money's at.

Did you see Matt's face when you said that? He goes, Andrew goes, where?

I wanna say something, and this is like, honestly, I'm kind of like having like a star moment because I really love Matt. Matt doesn't know this, but Matt is like, in my life, he has meant a lot. As I said, I'm a pastor.

I've been a pastor for 18 years and I have very much appreciated his stuff. So I'm a little nervous. It's like, you know, meeting a hero. So for real, and I promise I'm not just blowing smoke, but no, and I am appreciating

I'll enjoy it while it lasts because when you meet me, it'll be over.

Well, what's funny is you look like one of my karate instructors. I posted a picture once of you and him together because y 'all look so much alike, but that

Poor guy.

That's why he had to start karate.

Yeah, exactly. I'm preaching on the Calvinism of Luther, which is anachronistic, obviously, because Luther was a first-generation reformer and Calvin was more of a second-generation reformer, but in regard to Luther's views on the depravity of man and how he understood the anthropology of the scriptures, and I'm going to tie those into Augustine.

And my goal is to show that Augustine, while he has a history of Manichean Gnosticism, was not in fact teaching Manichean Gnosticism when he taught the depravity of man and the determined will of God, because that's the argument right now that's being made by the provisionists, is that all of this is just Manichean Gnosticism.

So my hope is to show how Luther and Calvin both tie back to Augustine, and Augustine was actually right.

Ooh, that sounds good. Cool, Haps, why Calvinism, brother?

Well, why not? Why not get biblical, you know? Why not get back to, you know, world gospel? No, I'll be teaching on Calvinism and evangelism. And yeah, I think that apart from Calvinism, there is no evangelism, you know?

I mean, you know, if you were to take one word to describe Calvinism, it would be monarchism. You know, a mono, one, or work, one work, that's the one work of God from, you know, and really not only have this be a reminder to our fellow brothers out there, our fellow Reformed brothers and everything, but also, remember the name of the conference is Why Calvinism?

And my plea is to the evangelists out there, you know, a lot of them are doing this trick or treat evangelism, you know, and they're trying to like, you know, do a song and dance when it comes out to evangelism, but it's all the work of God.

Yeah.

I mean, it just, and really don't, don't, don't worry. You know, if somebody is not listening to you, don't worry if they're coming at you with a brick. Don't worry if they're coming at you with a question.

God's word never returns void.

Yeah, amen. And we appreciate the street preaching, the open air theology. That's what I believe the name of the podcast is based on which you and Jeff are part of as well. Braden Patterson, a friend of ours as well, I think does that.

So very appreciative of that work. That's gonna be an interesting subject as well too, because those are the number one things I get hurled at me when I start talking about doctrines of grace or my Reformed theology is, oh, you're a robot.

You don't have any reason to evangelize. And I would say, when you dive into the scriptures and you dive in and understand that theology, it is such a beautiful way that you want to evangelize because you know your place.

You understand that by the grace that you've been saved, you don't deserve it, you haven't earned it. You're a horrible, despicable person. And for some reason, God chose to save me. And why wouldn't I want to go out and tell other people about the good news?

So let's move it over to Claude Ramsey. Claude, why Calvinism, brother?

Be Claude.

Be Claude.

So I want to echo what Keith said, but of course I echo it about all of you. I'm in all of you, and I mean that. I just appreciate the privilege and the honor to get to be counted amongst you all's number.

So my topic is why Calvinism matters. And basically what the focus and the thrust of the sermon is going to be is to focus on, as it's been stated and as it's been spoken around as well, that Calvinism, of course, didn't originate with John Calvin and it originates from the scriptures and the high view of God in the scriptures.

So that's going to really be our focus, but.

Love it.

Again, I'm a man of few words and little to say so, but I thank you for having me on again. I'm going to jump off guys, but again, thank you all so much for having me on tonight.

Before you jump off, let me just let folks know, if you have not heard Claude preach. I know he's going to shake his head. If you have passion.

The anointing of God.

Heard, straight up.

Passionate, you have not until you've heard Claude preach.

Paul, I've received a comment, give it to God.

If you allow me, you come and then tell me I'm wrong.

After you hear it and give it to God.

Hopefully it's not passion only, but it's theological truth.

With a whole lot of passion.

Well, look it, look it.

God can't cry at your preaching because that's going to happen. Yeah.

I did last time.

It's pretty. He cried at everyone's message.

Yeah, that was Braden.

Yeah, that was Braden. Well, praise the Lord.

It's pretty, it's pretty awesome how powerfully the Lord chooses to use humble men that speak the truth. And Claude is definitely one of those, I would say. So let's, let's, and Claude, we love you, brother.

If you got to hop off, that's fine. This is a very informal episode. So people listening or watching, you're going to hear people jumping in and out. No problem. Jeff, why now? Because I, I'm going to ask you that question, but I'm going to attack my opinion on it.

And you let me know if you agree with this and anyone can jump in, but I'm directing it at Jeff since he created this conference. But I see it as, as the world becomes more, more secular and secular. And actually I was talking to Dr. James White about this, how he said, you know, I would prefer them to be pagan because at least they would believe in some type of deity at that point.

Now we're into this point to where there is no God. It's very secular. The farther we get into this culture, especially in America and the Western Christian church, I see how much more important a solid theology, the doctrines of grace are, how they lead you back to the scriptures, to the sovereignty of God, and how I see people, especially Gen Z, I'm talking 21 and under, 18 and under, that are gravitating towards preachers, towards shows, towards podcasts that are preaching reformed and Calvinistic theology, because it makes sense.

Not only does it make sense, but it speaks truth, right? And it's God's truth. So I think this is a great conference for the time to start 2024. What were your thoughts? Why do this right now? Some people might say, this is rehash.

We've been talking about this since the new Calvinism of the early aughts. Like, why are we doing this? What are your thoughts on that? And then anyone else that wants to jump in can too.

Well, let me first answer the question that you asked them, and then I'll bring that into play as well. So my answer to why Calvinism would be the topic that I gave to Claude, right? Because Calvinism matters.

Like, it really does. So this past weekend, I preached a funeral, and a guy that I worked for for over 15 years was there. And I got to see him come to Christ. And he saw me when I first became a Calvinist.

And we had so many conversations in his vehicle, and he would sit there and scream at me and beat his steering wheel with his fist because I believed in the doctrines of grace. And he would say, there's no way I could, I mean, just beating the steering wheel, there's no way that I could believe in a God that chooses some and not others.

And yesterday at that funeral, he said, 12 years. I said, what? He said, 12 years. I said, what are you talking about? He says, that's how long it's taken me to see what you've been saying this whole time about Calvinism.

12 years. He says, God is in control of it all, Jeff. I said, I know, I've been telling you that.

We got a whole conference on it coming two weeks.

Yeah, I said, you need to come to the conference. But I mean, Calvinism matters. And I think that's the whole point of why I think I'm doing, again, there's a lot going on in our world right now. There's a lot to be said.

So let's take the whole Presbyterian and Reformed Baptist idea, right? All right, so the Presbyterians and the Baptists, we can have our inside arguments and stuff like this, but this is that one area where we agree and we can come together and have a conference, right?

But in another sense, you have all these other issues that are popping up. You have the Thomas Aquinas crowds and the Antillian's crowd, they're fighting each other. You got all these different problems with different denominations fighting one another over.

And then you have the stuff that's going on in the world. And I wanted something where those who are Reformed can unite around, gather together, have fellowship, but also I would love nothing more than to have 300 people there who were not Calvinists so they could hear why Calvinism, why is it so important?

Listen, my coming to Jesus was a big moment in my life, the biggest moment in my life. But I would say theologically, my second biggest was understanding the doctrines of grace because what it did, it drove me to the scriptures even harder, but not only the scriptures, but in church history, right?

And it helped me to find out what it is that I truly believe, right? And so now I firmly stand where I stand. I am a Reformed Baptist, right? I hold to a Baptist covenant theology. I'm confessional, I'm covenantal.

I hold to the ordinary means of grace. Like I know where I stand at in my theology. And I don't think I would have ever known that if it had not been for Calvinism.

Reformed Identity, Evangelism, and Why Calvinism Matters Now

Yeah. No, amen.

And it got me on that trajectory.

And I just want to say as the two Presbyterians, Matt and I don't mind if you use the word Reformed incorrectly like that with Baptist, that's okay.

Reformed Presbyterian.

I'm kidding, I'm kidding. And that's the kind of joke we're gonna have. Go ahead, Keith.

And the theology burndown begins.

We're what you call deep water Presbyterians. So we know what we're about.

Hey, I'm just glad that in Keith's video that he did on the martial arts, the superior martial art was the Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, even if it was Presbyterian, just saying.

I'm an MMA guy, so I know five different martial arts. I think I'll take on any one of them.

Isn't it true that we're gonna have a, it's Jeff versus Keith in round one of a martial art show. And then Haps and I are gonna go for round two. Maybe we'll have Matt versus Greg. And Greg, it doesn't look good for you.

No, it doesn't.

Wait, is Matt going to be wearing his headset while we're in the ring?

Matt could compete with his Krav Maga with his headset on, just for the record.

That's what I was thinking. He's putting me in an armbar while he's quoting Luther.

No.

But Matt, I wanna get your opinion on this. This is the first time you've been on the podcast. Why now? Is now a good time in our culture? Does theology matter? Does good theology matter in 2024 in Western Christianity?

I know you're gonna say yes. I'm setting up a softball here, but I'm hoping to get a little more out of you. Is 2024 a good time to do this? Or is this just a rehash?

The good time to do it is any time. Theology is a necessary thing for Christians. Every Christian should know theology. But what's happening in the Christian churches largely is that mamby-pamby hammock theology, skipping stone theology, just throw a stone across it, doesn't go very deep.

This is what's happening with humanist philosophy. So we need to get down deep. And someone said earlier, and I agree, there's an increase in young men, men in particular, who are interested in reformed theology.

They're tired of the crap that's being taught at so many churches. Yeah, why this? Because it gives the greatest glory to God.

Amen.

That's it, you know, it's why we're created, Isaiah 43, 45, seven, 45, I gotta find it now. Yep.

It's in the 40s.

43, seven, I think it is.

43, seven, there we go. Hope you're enjoying the episode, guys. As you know, this episode is brought to you by K &K Furnishings, a fantastic company. And I wanna tell you a little bit more about them.