Provoked - Bold As Lions: Interview with Laura Klassen of Choice42

Brothers, what we do in life echoes in eternity.

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We will not stop fighting and bothering you all until this monstrous, barbaric practice of legalized abortion ends. And we are teaching our children to do the same.

God's word says that the shed blood of innocent humans cries out for justice, and mark my words, they will have their day in court.

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We're Provoked. If you've really never been on the show, you don't know what we're all about. We're here to ultimately give glory to God. We just wanna be a help to our brothers and sisters, and we wanna provoke our Christian brothers and sisters, whoever listens to us, to share the gospel, really to work out their salvation, be Christians in a culture of death.

That's right, yeah. It's simple. It's just all we want people to do is love their neighbor. And we do that preeminently through gospel presentation, through gospel dissemination, getting the gospel out as far and as wide as we can.

Of course, that's the MO of Apologia Studios. That's the way it's been for years and years and years. And then we also want to love our neighbor in the form of trying to rescue little babies from being butchered at abortion mills or wherever it may be.

It's a preeminent issue. And that's what we're all about. I am excited about today's show. Oh, yeah. But before we do that, we need to, of course, talk about Apologia All Access. So how you can help us is go to apologiastudios .com and become an All Access member.

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I'm laughing at the thought of, have you ever seen that YouTube video? Google cat with a toothbrush, and it's like somebody brushes their cat's teeth and it makes his face like a, okay, so after you listen to Bonsai for 10 minutes, your face is going to look like that cat's face.

Just the whole time. Because your brain is just gonna be like, you know, yeah.

Yeah, that's how I am. I'm like that cat every single time I listen to that guy. I think we're gonna have to add a clip so people don't think we're crazy. Oh yeah, we gotta add that clip. We'll add that clip right now.

And they'll see it. And they'll just see how, why we're such big weirdos. Okay, cool. So anything you wanna say before we move into the?

I noticed that in almost every single episode, I say, I'm super excited about this episode. You know, you hear your own self, but today I am super excited because our guest is legit one of my heroes. Like she is the Katniss Everdeen of abolitionists.

That's a good way. She is so cool.

I'm sure she's loving hearing this. We're embarrassing her right now.

Sorry, but no, I just admire her work. I'm so thankful for it. She just brings such an edge to this fight. And I'm so thankful for all the work that she's doing. So without further ado, we should introduce her, huh?

Yeah, we're gonna bring on Laura Clawson in just one second. But that's our guest of the day. And yeah, we have been super excited to see, you know, to have her come on the show today. I think a cool thing.

And before we introduce her, what I like about Laura so much is just boldness and courage. I don't know who said it, but they said, you know, people follow courage and boldness. And that's exactly as Christians move out in boldness.

And in her case, she wants to save as many babies as she can in a very straightforward and bold and courageous way. You inspire other people to do it, especially women. So I was walking out the door. I say, hey guys, I'm gonna go and go record a show.

And they said, who are you gonna have on? I said, oh, Laura Clawson. And my daughters, 18 and 14, were just, what? You know, they were so excited. Because when a woman makes a bold stand, she inspires and encourages other women to do so.

And that's exactly what we need. That's right. So, hey, Laura, are you there? I am.

Hi. Hi. Hey, thanks for being on. I think they're having me. I'm used to having people say nice things about me, so. Yeah, me either. I don't know what to say.

Yeah, and we know. We just follow your Twitter feed and your Facebook.

So we know all about that. Yeah, you respond really well and graciously to them.

Oh, you know, trying, yep.

Yeah, I know. I actually wanna talk to you a little bit more about that as we get into the discussion, but I'll leave that for a little bit further down. But we're gonna start by playing your video. So You're Pregnant.

So You're Pregnant. Just so our listeners can get a kind of an idea of the work that you're doing with Choice for Two. So we're gonna play that now. So you're pregnant.

You didn't plan this. You didn't want it. And now you have a choice to make. Take a breath. You can do this. I'm going to be real with you, though. The choices that our society and the media are going to present you with, they're not all equal.

Right now, your baby's heart is already beating. That started about 21 days after conception. We're talking about another human being here, and not just any human being, your baby. For whatever reason, this baby was given to you.

You were chosen to be this child's mother. And no matter what's going on in your life, you can rise up and take this on. You can rock this. But right now, abortion is probably going to be suggested, even pushed on you by the people closest to you.

They'll tell you it's your best option. They'll tell you to think of your future. They'll say you're not old enough, not young enough, not experienced enough, not financially stable enough, not educated enough.

They might even threaten you. The thing is, you're already this baby's mother. This child is already here in the world, living and growing inside you. And what these people are suggesting to you is that you murder your own baby.

And yeah, that sounds harsh, but I'm not going to lie to you. Not when your baby's life is on the line. You're the only one who can protect this child. You, you're not alone. Not by a long shot. Fight for your baby, and reach out for help if you need it.

We'll help you. Choose your baby. You've got what it takes, and you won't regret it.

Okay, yeah, that's an amazing work. All the videos that you put out are awesome. So what we know, and you know this as well, is Christians can put out really sucky stuff. I mean, really subpar presentations, movies, videos, whatever it may be.

And I so appreciate Choice42 and you guys just putting out excellent things, like videos that are better than everything that came before it. Especially your video on child sacrifice. I mean, I just, I so appreciate your attention to quality and detail and innovation and art.

And I think that's why, you know, you're hooked up with Lore, because they see that in you guys as well.

Yeah, that was one of our goals, because we noticed that too. That there wasn't a lot of quality media being produced about abortion. So that's one of the things we wanted to do.

Yeah, and you guys do it well. So just kind of tell us, before we get into asking about your testimony, we really are interested in how you got in the fight and how that all transpired. But tell us a little bit about what it's like living in Canada right now with all the restrictions and what you kind of have to deal with.

Oh, yeah. So basically we've lost our freedom, whether people realize it or not. And sadly, I think a lot of people don't even realize it right now. You know, it started over a year ago with two weeks to flatten the curve.

We were gonna have a shutdown for two weeks, and now they're introducing vaccine passports. So it's crazy.

Yeah. So with the vaccine passports, are you at this moment, I mean, how deep is the restrictions? Can you, are they not allowing anybody to fly yet? Or has it not gotten to that level? That is what they're saying,.

Is that comes in in September. So each province kind of has its own rules. So I'm in Ontario. They just announced for British Columbia that the vaccine passport is coming in in September. And it basically prohibits you from going anywhere other than to shop for groceries.

So you can't go to weddings. You can't go to the movie theater. You can't go to the mall. You can't go anywhere if you're not vaccinated.

Wow. So what would you say to the person in Canada? And I know you've probably heard this. It says, hey, just take the vaccine and everything will go back to normal. Let's just get things back to the way they are.

So let's comply with the government. What would you say?

Well, the government, I don't think the government's gonna give back power once they've taken it. So once we just go along with this, I don't think things will just go back to normal. I think it's only gonna escalate and the government's just gonna take more.

So I think that, people are saying this isn't the line that they wanna draw, that they'll just go along and take the vaccine and they'll put their foot down when they truly feel like their freedom's being taken away.

But it's happening step-by-step, right? It's gonna be a lot harder to stand up later if we don't stand up now. Exactly right.

That is the only recourse. Because I mean, you look at history, this is history played out over and over, not only in our nation, of course, in yours and around the world. But that's exactly right. This is the work of a tyrannical government.

And the more that you comply to a tyrannical government, the more that they put the squeeze on you. So we have to have a concerted effort in the masses to say, hey, you know what? We're not gonna bow to your dictates.

You're our servants, we're not your slaves. So that's the only way forward.

Do you ever get just these moments, like I'm listening to this, I'm like, man, this feels like we're in some sort of weird sci-fi movie. Yeah, it's unbelievable. Like who would have even imagined two years ago that we would even be having this discussion?

I mean, that is crazy. You can't go anywhere but the grocery store. That means if you've got family in another province, like you can't go visit them. Like you said, weddings, you can't travel. You know, just like the ramifications of this are huge.

Yeah.

Hey, Laura, do you know the percentage of people that aren't vaccinated in Canada right now?

You know what? They're saying that 80 are vaccinated, but I don't believe that stat. I don't think that many are, honestly. But I mean, who knows?

Yeah, totally. And how many people are in Canada? I'm sorry, I'm throwing out all these questions. Do you know how many people? No, I don't. So hundreds of millions, I'm assuming. Maybe not as much. We have what, 400 million here?

I think so, 4 .5. Way less than you guys. Yeah, you do have way less. So maybe not that figure. But you think about 20 that just say, hey, you know, I'm not gonna get vaccinated, who are confined to their homes, right?

They can't go work. They can only go back and forth to eat. So I think that what that's gonna do to national economies. Yeah.

If that, go ahead. Yeah, no, just that they haven't done that yet in terms of the working thing. Like, and as I said, like they've announced it in British Columbia. So that's not here, but they have said that all civil servants have to be vaccinated.

So that's all the police, anyone working in hospitals. I'm not sure if hospitals have happened yet, but different groups of people. Oh, anyone who works in a bank has to be vaccinated. So it's kind of like they're rolling it out and different groups are dealing with it right now, but I'm sure they're gonna extend it to pretty much everyone soon.

Sure.

It's 37 million. Oh, 37 million. Oh yeah, that's tiny. There's like 37 million in Los Angeles.

Yeah, there's 328, or yeah, 328 million in the United States.

Yeah, so about 10%. Yeah. Wow. Well, hey, we're praying for you and that increases our admiration. And of course we give all glory to God, but it does increase our admiration for you that in such a constrained environment that you're in and problematic that we don't even understand that you're being as bold as you are.

So thank you just so much for that exhibition of boldness and courage. It really encourages us to do more.

Yeah, I think the first video I saw of you, Laura, was the magic birth canal and I just, I love it because I, as a woman, have gone out to the mills and have done abortion mill ministry and have been in this fight for, I don't know, six or seven years now.

And, you know, like we were alluding to, for some reason, well, we know why, but pro-choicers hate men that are in this fight, but boy, do they hate women that are in this fight. I would say even more because with men, they've got the no uterus, no opinion, you know, garbage, but with women, they can't say that to us.

And so really all they can do is try to attack our personal character. And so I just love that you kind of come back with, of course, class, but just a little bit of a bite. And I just, it's very edifying for me, just being on the other end of the abuse, you know, that you kind of receive from the death scourts and from other women, pro-choice women.

It is very satisfying to have someone come out and make just such quality content. And that has a bite and has some, a serrated edge. So thank you for your work that you're doing. It really has encouraged me a ton, so.

Yeah. Hey, so you get a lot of women messaging you, asking you how they can get in the fight to save babies. Yeah.

And it's a lot different for Americans compared to us. Like you guys saying you're out at the death mill, like it's illegal to stand outside of an abortion clinic here in Canada. Wow. So it's a very different fight because if I have an American message me, then I just say, great, like go, go to the gates and try and rescue babies.

So, which is kind of why, you know, we have Choice for Two online in the first place because we can reach women this way.

That's awesome. Okay, so let's kind of shift into your testimony. We're really curious about, you know, kind of who you are and what got you involved. I don't know, you can go as exhaustively as you want, in depth as you want, whatever you feel like, but we really want to know kind of your story.

How did you get involved?

So I grew up in a Christian home and I became Christian when I was quite young. And also when I was little, I saw a graphic abortion image. And for someone, someone was holding it on the side of the road and that really affected me.

I kind of from that, at that moment, I knew abortion was wrong. I didn't understand exactly what it was, but you know, you can just look at that image and know that it's something bad. And so I went through school and I did my like big projects or my debates every single year almost on abortion.

And so it just kept going year after year after year. And I honestly was not aware that there was a pro-life movement in Canada. I didn't know it existed and I didn't know much about everything going on in the US.

So I just thought like, no one knows what's going on here. I didn't know where to start or how to do anything, but I just really had this feeling like I needed to do something about abortion. I didn't know what it was.

And I can remember praying so earnestly, like God just use me for this. I'll do whatever it is. And it's kind of crazy slash scary to look back on that and see like it happened. So yeah, I started volunteering at my local pregnancy resource center because that's where I figured that's what I knew was out there.

And then when I was there, I got the idea for choice for two, just in terms of reaching women online and also in creating awareness for people as to what abortion actually is and that it's happening in our country and that our country actually doesn't have any abortion law at all.

And most Canadians don't even know that. So that's just kind of where the whole thing started. I had no training in how to run a nonprofit or in how to run social media or in any of that, but I just started it and it's grown now to what it is.

Wow.

Yeah, that's amazing. So how long has choice for two been alive? I guess you could say active.

Yeah, actually this week will be our sixth anniversary. Wow. That's awesome. That's so cool. So do you do that full time? Yeah, like it's not a job, but yeah, like no one on our team is paid. So it's not like a full time thing in terms of that, but I do spend a lot of time on it.

That's awesome.

Cool. So maybe we can get into, well, just a couple of questions to kind of pick your brain about a few things, but how do you think abortion is really gonna end? Maybe some bigger questions. What, from your perspective, do we need to do?

I don't really know, but I think that, I mean, if it's gonna end, it's gonna be God that ends it. And right now, we're not, like Canada, and I'd say the US too, probably is not, they're not Christian countries.

So we're missing that. We're missing God in our country, and people are not calling out to God for help. We're just a totally pagan society. So I'm not sure exactly what the steps are gonna be, whether it be to kind of awaken people as to what abortion actually is and the horror that it is, but at the same time, even if they find out, in a lot of cases, if they're not Christians, they don't care anyway.

So I think that there has to be a big change in our country, just in general, not having to do with abortion, but having to do with being a Christian country. Right.

Yeah, absolutely. It's just almost like reformation, right, or revival, just a spiritual awakening in that country. And then when the scales are off, then you come to the conclusion, oh, I'm supposed to love my neighbor.

It's not okay to tear apart little babies in the womb. But you're exactly right. So it's more of a spiritual effort. And that's what we think too. That's why within abortion now and all of our efforts here, even in front of the mill, it's always gospel-centric.

You know, we go to proclaim the gospel. All Apology Studios is really primarily about just getting the gospel out constantly, because it's the gospel God uses as his tool of the power of God into salvation for all who believe, right, that God uses to regenerate that heart.

And then, you know, because before God regenerated me, I could give a rip about abortion. I mean, I never even thought about it ever. And then all of a sudden, you have the spirit of God dwelling in you, and you're like, wait, no, this is wrong.

How could we ever think that this is okay? So I think that is a wonderful answer. So that's in abortion now, a very prophetic gospel-centered coming along the local church and equipping the local churches in our network to go out with the gospel and save babies.

And then we have also the legislative work that we do through an organization called Red State Reform to where we introduce bills of abolition all throughout the nation. So one of these days, the pro-life movement is not gonna destroy these abolition bills.

It's gonna happen, which is insane to even say. Your biggest adversary is the pro-life movement, and that's a whole huge topic in itself.

So how was Choice for Two, like, how did that come to be? Like, how was that, and how did it start? Were you gonna ask that, sorry?

No, no, go ahead. Yeah, I just kind of started it. Like I said, like, I didn't know what I was doing. I went to school for music and opera, so I didn't know. I just, we came up with the name, just paid to have a logo, just started creating the website, which really needs to be revamped at this point because it's a six-year-old Choice for Two on the website.

And at that time, we would actually say, like, Choice for Two is a non-religious organization, a non-political, non-religious, like all that kind of stuff. And it's completely flipped now because just coming to the realization of what abortion is, which is child sacrifice, which is very much a religious issue.

Yeah, so you just mean like the technical, I just set everything up. I set up the social media. And the idea was to create a viral video so that we would get exposure. And that's where the magical birth canal, like that's why that was created.

Okay, got it.

Yeah. So what would you say to like, if somebody is listening to our show, you know, a young woman, a young man, whoever it may be in Canada, they're listening. They know you're from that country and they wanna get involved.

What would you, how would you encourage them?

Well, get involved with Choice for Two. I mean, there's lots of opportunity in just following us online and interacting with anyone the same way that we would. But in general, I think we really need to engage the churches.

The churches here in Canada really don't care about abortion. And I actually met with a, I don't know if you've heard of Aaron Rock. He's a pastor here who's been kind of causing some issues because he did not close his church when the churches were ordered to close.

So I actually got to know him a little bit, but we ended up meeting, it was yesterday. And he's one of the very, very few pastors who will touch the abortion debate. And when I, when we started Choice for Two, we had this idea that we would email.

We got as many emails as we could of pastors in Canada to just kind of let them know, here's Choice for Two. We're gonna be tackling abortion. And I figured that they would be supportive and they were not.

I think I got back maybe two emails saying, good job. Mostly I didn't hear back from anyone. And then I got messages from pastors. I'll say that in quotes because they would say stuff like, go to hell.

Abortion is a woman's right. Who are you to say abortion is wrong? Show me in the Bible where it says abortion is wrong. So just a very, very discouraging start, but it really kind of shocked me into reality as to what we're dealing with here in Canada because even the churches won't touch it.

And that is so sad. And we look at our American Evangelical Church and it's in a state of total disrespect, repair. And it all flows out of the pulpits, right? Everything flows, but it seems to me like you guys are in a much worse off position at the moment, not forever, but at the moment.

But it seems as though, again, it's all tied into the pastors and the pulpits. If only they would have the courage, then things start to change from that point. So you talked about just briefly that there's no abortion laws in Canada.

So does that mean that they can kill a baby in the womb at any stage? Correct. Wow, so five minutes before delivery. Yeah.

Wow, that's unreal. I know, and the thing is, Canadians don't believe that it's happening. They have, every Canadian has in their mind, like, oh no, it doesn't happen past 12 weeks or it doesn't happen past 24 weeks.

Like they all have these cutoffs. They just think, which are not true. And to be honest, it is not easy to find a doctor who will abort your baby at nine months. But because there is no law, it's kind of up to each doctor.

And we do know that it's happening because I've interacted with women who have done it. And there was a pretty big case a couple of years ago that got a lot of attention because a woman tried to abort her almost full-term baby.

I think it was because the baby had Down syndrome. I'm not 100 sure if I remember that right, but she couldn't find a doctor who would do it and she got really mad. So she went to the news about that, saying that this is her right.

And then another doctor stepped up and did it.

Wow, atrocious, it's absolutely wicked.

Yeah. But even that, like the way that the public reacted to that was not, oh my goodness, a full-term baby was just aborted. It was, oh my goodness, this poor woman had to jump through hoops for her rights.

Unreal, that is so sad. It is, it makes you nauseous. Obviously you believe the same as us. It's no different from the value of the baby at conception to full-term, but it just shows you the depravity in the mind of man that we can even go there with a baby that's just about to be delivered.

Because a lot of the arguments are, well, it's just a clump of cells and that is just so blaring. You know that it's not a clump of cells.

But you're right, it's a mentality of depravity. It's just a mentality. And you hit the nail on the head when you said, hey, what Canada really needs is God, is to acknowledge God. This is what happens to any nation all throughout history when you don't acknowledge God, when you spurn him, right?

And Romans chapter one talks about it. It actually talks about the process of judgment. And at the end, he gives them over to their depravity. And then after that, the next step is the wrath of abandonment.

John MacArthur actually has a really good sermon on that. Just the steps of God's judgment on a rebellious nation. So I hope Canada comes around. And I hope it doesn't get delivered over to its own vices.

Man, but we're praying for you heavily. What kind of response from your countrymen have you gotten?

Yeah, I mean, mostly not good. It's so ingrained into our culture that abortion's a woman's right and that's it. And that you're just a terrible, I've even been called a terrorist here in Canada for wanting to end abortion.

So it's not the popular opinion by any means, but we're just trudging along here.

And here though, lives have been saved because of the work of Choice for Two and with your team. Like I see all the time where you guys are helping and you're another baby saved, another baby saved. Oh, mom just chose life.

Here's a baby shower. Here's a registry and lives are being saved because of God is using your faithfulness. So man, that's encouraging. And it also is really, it's humbling just to listen to because it sounds like you guys have it a lot worse than we do.

I mean, just to be in the fight. Like you said, you can't go out and just plead with mothers. You have a lot more obstacles it sounds like to try to reach these women. And so we just praise God for your faithfulness and all that he's doing through your work.

Yeah, and you're being salt and light. I mean, salt is a preservative. And so the Christians within a nation that are actually impacting the culture are the ones that are preserving that nation, actually holding back the hand of God and unleashing his full on wrath of abandonment and doom.

So it's just awesome. You guys are, like Rusty Thomas says, getting the salt out of the salt shaker and being that impactful presence, being a light in a very dark place. So keep doing it. I'm sure you've thought, man, it'd be cool just to bail this place so I could have more freedoms and be less restricted and all that I wanna do.

But I'm just so admired that you stay there and God's using what you've done and God is using what you're doing to save lives and bring him glory.

So that's amazing. That is. I had a quick question before we get started on, cause I wanna hear about her new project. Yeah, that was mine too. As much as she can share, she might not be able to share too much.

Exactly. Laura, I was wondering when you were talking about this, when the pastors were saying, the quote unquote pastors were saying that kind of stuff to, were you, did you go through any sort of just discouragement?

Because I remember when I kind of got into this fight, I was going to a bigger church and I remember a woman that had been a Christian for 40 years and was in leadership and stuff at that church told me that we really shouldn't tell people that abortion is sin.

What we should tell them is that their life's gonna be changed. They really don't need to hear that it's wrong, but that it's sin. And I just remember being like floored and I went through like just a period of just discouragement like, are you kidding me?

I just was so naive to this whole fight that there were actually Christians that profess Christ that said they loved him with all their heart, mind and soul and yet they were telling me that it wasn't okay to call baby slaughter a sin.

So did you go through any sort of like discouraging, discouragement during that time?

I think it was more of like a shock of okay, they're not on our side, but it wasn't like a discouragement because I really, and looking back on it now, it's kind of funny, but I didn't have any, there was no thought in my mind that Choice for Two wouldn't be successful in terms of growing, just growing and taking off.

And it's funny to think now because I didn't have any connections. I didn't have anything that should have made it successful, but I just thought, okay, I'm just doing what I can based on just really asking God to use me.

And so here we go and this is gonna work. And so when all those pastors weren't supportive, it was disappointing, but then I was just like, okay, well, so we're doing it without them.

Yeah. Interesting. That's the hardest part of the fight and that's what I really am inspired by you as well as others is just like the stick-to-itiveness because the Bible says do not grow weary in well-doing, but in this fight, you can grow weary.

It's just tough with all the vitriol, all the hatred, and you get it maybe more than we do. Oh, for sure.

We're all receiving the end of that. Well, you get it in person a lot, but online she just gets it left and right. Yeah, just like a machine gun at her.

So that's what I appreciate is that you're still working, that you're still moving forward, that you're still innovating and creating. And that's what we have to do, but that can be in this fight.

Some of the most difficult things. Yeah, Laura, when you go out to dinner or when you go out, have you ever gotten assaulted or people threatening or calling you names or anything because you're pretty well-known now and you're very recognizable, I would say?

You know what? No one has ever recognized me.

You just don't wear your pink wig. Well, she wears her pink wig. Oh, yeah, that's good. That's perfect. The pink wig has been such a blessing because I didn't think about it at the time. We just did it to be flashy.

But I even had people who I know, so people at my church who saw the video online and then came up to me and asked me who I got to be the actor. Oh, really? Yeah, which I'm like, it's just a pink wig on my head.

It's still my face. But for some reason. She's like Batman. I know, but for some reason. Or Superman, yeah. Yeah, they really don't recognize me. And when I do just go out in my everyday life, I mean, I don't look like this.