August 12, 2021 Show with Justin Peters on “Exegeting the True Meaning of Commonly Misinterpreted Texts of Scripture”

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I'm so thrilled to have back on the program one of my favorite guests, who's also a very dear friend,

Justin Peters, who is an author, evangelist, conference speaker, and founder of

Justin Peters Ministries.

And today we are going to be addressing exegeting the true meaning of commonly

misinterpreted texts of Scripture.

It's my honor and privilege to welcome you back to Iron Sharpens Iron Radio, Justin Peters.

Chris, it's a joy.

And I'm so glad you accepted it.

And I want to give our listeners right away our email address, should they have any interest in submitting

their own question to you on exegeting the true meaning of commonly misinterpreted texts of

Scripture.

It is chrisarnzen at gmail .com.

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Please give us your first name at least, your city and state, and your country of residence.

And we will broaden the subjects that we will permit you

to ask about, since Justin obviously is most well known

for his openly exposing and refuting the

charlatans and heretics in the word of faith movement.

So if you do have a question on that, we would not ignore your question, obviously on an issue as important

as that.

But the main theme, as I have already said, will be exegeting the true meaning of commonly interpreted texts of

Scripture.

And we look forward to hearing from you and your questions at chrisarnzen at gmail .com.

Well, for our listeners, and there may be a few, I would find it hard to believe that there are any

listeners in my audience who are unfamiliar with you.

But in the event that there are a few, why don't you let our listeners know about Justin Peter's Ministries?

Sure, Chris.

My wife,

Kat,

is of

only

interest in preaching.

Also the title of the oldest extra -biblical manual of Christian practice

in existence.

That is correct.

Well, if anybody wants more information on Justin Peter's Ministries, just go to justinpeters

.org, justinpeters .org.

And by the way, although this is not the subject at hand, when you were talking about taking your ministry abroad,

it popped right in my head.

If you were to visit countries where there is a

foreign language other than English, that is the dominant language of that country,

and you are speaking on the issue of tongues, it just reminded me of when Iron

Trip and Zion Radio, before I moved to Pennsylvania, was on

WNYG Radio in Babylon, Long Island, New York.

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Contico Nuevo.

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from the airways, because the entire lineup of programming that used to be English was

replaced by Spanish programs, they got inundated with phone calls protesting Iron

Trip and Zion Radio's absence, and they asked me to come back as their only English

-speaking talk show host.

But the thing that was interesting to me is that when I would get into the studio

and listen to the program that was on preceding mine,

a Spanish program, by the way, about 99 of all the

programming on that network was not only Spanish but Pentecostal or charismatic.

And it was interesting to me, it was fascinating to me, how although I just have a

cursory understanding of Spanish from my high school days, but could still never

understand people speaking Spanish with the lightning speed with which they normally

may speak, I could pick out immediately when this Spanish host

would be speaking in tongues because it was the only part of the program that sounded like a fake language, if you follow

what I'm saying, if you follow what I'm saying.

He went from speaking something authentic, and even though I couldn't understand it, when he would break out in tongues,

it would sound clearly like gibberish.

Yes.

I'm sorry, what?

Yes.

Completely different.

When you hear a charismatic speaker, it's obvious

that it's...

Yes, and you may have people that are more gifted at making their gibberish

sound like a real language.

I remember, actually, the comedian Sid Caesar was very good at that.

Sid Caesar would be playing a comedic role as a German,

for instance, and he would be speaking gibberish because he didn't know the German language.

But you would never know because he did such a good job at imitating a language just with sounds and so on.

But most of the time, even if somebody, if you were to say that this is a real

angelic language, then most of the time, 99 of the time, even if you were to grant

them that that was true, they would be saying and repeating over and over again two or three words.

You know what I'm saying?

Right. That's right. Yeah.

That is not the topic, as I already introduced to our

listeners.

It's exegeting the true meaning of commonly misinterpreted texts of Scripture.

Why don't you start right off with the text that you

believe is commonly misinterpreted, that you'd want to set the record

straight over.

I'm almost speaking in tongues right now.

I'm a little tongue -tied.

Okay.

You're telling me something that I have never heard, or at least if I heard it, I don't remember hearing it because

I have been visiting charismatic and Pentecostal churches even before

I was a believer, before I was regenerate.

And I don't remember that ever being explained to me.

Yeah, yeah.

Even though he was one.

And even if Satan could understand what you're saying, what is he going to do when

you're communicating, when a regenerate person is communicating with God, is

Satan somehow going to thwart the plan of God when he's answering your prayer?

I don't even understand the concern or fear over that.

It's absurd.

Yet another.

Well, if you're finished properly exegeting that

passage, let's move on to one of my favorite passages,

and a passage that is no doubt one of the very favorite passages of every Calvinist

alive.

That is John 10, 27.

Such a beautiful, encouraging, and comforting text.

In fact, let me look up that passage as I am sitting here.

Um, my sheep hear my voice, and I

know them, and they follow me.

How is that commonly misunderstood or misinterpreted?

Yes, Chris.

Widely.

It really means that we were among the elect.

Yes, and to clarify what you mean by that, you are not saying that we are hearing a voice

from heaven in an actual way where we're

audibly hearing someone other than a human instrument.

You're talking about when a person hears the voice of God either through reading

the scriptures on their own, or from an evangelist, a preacher, etc.

It's a metaphor that we are lost sheep, and when we hear the voice of the shepherd, that is, hearing the

gospel.

Yes, in fact, I want to return to it just for another, a couple of more clarifications,

but we have to go to our first break right now.

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This is Chris Arnzen.

If you just tuned us in today, our guest for the entirety of the program is Justin Peters of Justin Peters

Ministries, and we are addressing exegeting the true meaning of commonly

misinterpreted texts of scripture.

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Before the break, Justin, you were refuting a common

misinterpretation of John chapter 10, 27, and

you were also including in that correction

an affirmation of what has been called eternal security.

Now, I am quite certain that you believe in a doctrine that

is very similar and involves eternal security, but I think

is better named perseverance and preservation of the saints because of the fact that there are many

who claim to be believers of eternal security and yet also believe in the

heresy of a repentant, of repentant -less

salvation where someone could take comfort and encouragement and confidence that they are truly

born again and headed for heaven merely because they recited a prayer at Bible camp when

they were 7 years old and may have very soon after abandoned all notion of Christ, may

even be a cross -dressing serial killer and that person is being

told by fellow Christians in their lives, oh, I remember he raised his hand at Bible camp when

he was 7 and said the prayer, so even though he's doing some horrible things, he's still headed for heaven.

You obviously, knowing you long enough, do not believe in that heresy.

I do not.

It's a pattern of sin.

It's not even in the Bible.

And I might add to that, I gave an extreme example of somebody being categorized as a

Christian even though they are a cross -dressing serial killer.

I would even say that one should be seriously questioning

their salvation regardless of what kind of profession they made

or continue to make when their faith is lifeless and dead,

when they are not moved by hearing the Word of God.

In fact, they may even be bored to death by it and not even want

connection or association with a local church and their heart is

not moved to obey Christ's commands, their spirit is

not grieved when they disobey Christ.

They're basically walking zombies who have an identity as a Christian,

perhaps because of the way they were raised or what have you, but that person should

be collapsing to his or her knees crying out in repentance for forgiveness because

that person will be going to the same hell as Hitler and the serial killer.

That's right.

And

also

to reiterate something

very

important

that

you said

that might have flown over the.

Heads of many, this text or the texts surrounding it also

in John 10 really affirm a Reformed understanding of what is called the Ordo

Salutis, or in English, the Order of Salvation.

Because most Christians, this was not always the case, but most Christians

today are not Calvinists and they believe that by believing

they become sheep, but that is not the order that God provides in

the scripture.

And in fact, it is even further confirmed

in Acts 13, 48, where it says

those who were ordained unto eternal life believed,

the sheep believed, the goats did not become

sheep by.

So am I right in this association with the Order of Salvation?

You're

exactly

right,

Chris.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember Mary, I sure do.

She says, Hi Chris and Justin, I just heard that Justin was coming on your radio show, so I had to tune in

to listen to him.

Now, I want to exegete Mary's words there for a minute.

She is revealing that she otherwise would not be listening.

I just heard that Justin was coming on your radio show.

So, I had to tune in to listen to him.

Mary would be listening right now to John MacArthur on YouTube or something else, had it not been

for you being on the program.

But anyway, she says, This scripture often pops up, and some people seem to

have different ideas about what the second part of it means.

I would like to know what your thoughts about it are.

Numbers chapter 14 verse 18,.

The Lord is slow to anger and abounding in steadfast love, forgiving

iniquity and transgression.

But he will by no means clear the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers

on the children to the third and the fourth generation.

Yeah, I've heard different interpretations of that, even by people who agree on many, if

not most, other theological matters.

So, perhaps you can share with us how you exegete that.

Yeah, well, God is—.

I'd like to bring up a text that I believe is

misused by many within our circles of theology, yours and mine,

Justin, those that are theologically Reformed, but, unlike you and I, are paedo

-baptist.

Now, I have to make it very clear that I am not broad -brushing all paedo -baptists in

regard to the text I'm about to read, and its misinterpretation by many

paedo -baptists.

There are paedo -baptists who would not agree with this extreme

interpretation that I am about to provide, but I'll have you

comment on it yourself.

In Acts chapter 2, in

verse—let's see, where should I start?

Let me just start with verse 38.

This is Peter speaking.

Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ

for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

This promise belongs to you and your children

and to all who are far off, to all whom the Lord our God will

call to himself.

Now, there are paedo -baptists in the Reformed community who take this as a promise that their children and

their grandchildren are going to be saved.

Now, it's kind of interesting.

I heard a brother preaching on this years ago,

and he was using this text for that very reason, so that everybody

listening in his audience could—that was Christian, of course—could take great comfort

and encouragement and confidence that they can know for certain that their children will be

saved.

And then he really sunk his own ship with the following statement when he said, and you will

find that this is most often the case with most Christian families.

Now, what do you mean most often?

If it's a promise that your children and grandchildren are going to be saved, then it shouldn't be most

often.

It should be every single time.

But the reason I brought it up is it's kind of a reverse of the misinterpretation of

generations being cursed by their ancestors' sins, if you follow what I'm saying.

This is a reverse of that, where the blessing of salvation will come.

It's almost as if you could breed Christians.

But what are your thoughts on that?

Yeah,

you're

exactly right,

Pat.

And that is the promise, that if they repent and be baptized, each and every one of you, in the name

of the Lord Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

And that promise, if their children and grandchildren repent,

that means that they will receive the gift of that promise.

That's right.

It's the free offer of the gospel.

And I ask all of our Paido -Baptists listening, our Paido -Baptist

brethren listening, to be patient with us and not be overly upset by our

loving criticism.

In fact, tomorrow, a dear friend of mine who's going to be my guest, Dr. Jeffrey C. Waddington, who's an Orthodox

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few important announcements to make.

First of all, please continue praying for my brother John.

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I agree.

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And I took her up on her idea, and I've been doing it ever since the 1990s.

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And as far as the G3 conference is concerned, Justin, I know that, as I've just said, you're on the

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But do you know what you're speaking on?

Other than I know that the central umbrella theme over the whole conference is Christ is

supreme over all.

But do you have a specific title or theme you are going to be addressing?

Well, I haven't.

Well,

if

you'd

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And I know, Justin, you wanted to further clarify and finalize some of

your comments that you were beginning to make earlier on John chapter 10, verse 27.

Yes, Chris, I just

found John 10, verse 27.

In fact, if you were to take that view to be logically consistent,

you would have to believe that those that do not receive

revelatory teaching from God himself outside

of the Bible, you would have to believe that those who are cessationists like Justin and I are damned

because of the wording in that passage.

We would not be his sheep since we do not receive.

That's right, yeah.

Also, keep in mind about the texts regarding

curses following generations after the

individuals who perpetrated the sin originally.

That is the very thing that the, I don't know if they're using the text that Mary had

brought to us earlier in the Old Testament,

Numbers 14, 18, but the woke movement, the cancel culture

movement, they are using that kind of logic to blame all

white people for sins of not only their ancestors, but people who are

not even related to them by blood other than through the family of Adam.

And this is absolutely atrocious and insane.

And in fact, if you want to be consistent with that, why are not all blacks being held responsible

for the blacks that sold their own people into slavery?

I mean, you could go on and on and on with this kind of insane logic.

Yeah.

Another

passage

that

you'd

like

to address.

Because we do have some listeners with questions and passages of their own.

So do you want to move on first to one of your own that you have?

Yeah, sure, Chris.

I'm

doing

that.

And we have a question that actually might cause a bit of

controversy, even among the

cessationists listening.

Because not all cessationists agree that the verse that Grady

is hinting at is being properly used

to speak directly about the cessation of the

sign gifts, even though the people that disagree with that are themselves cessationists,

if I'm making sense.

But anyway, you'll find out in a second what I mean.

Grady in Asheboro, North Carolina says, Greetings, Brothers Chris and Justin.

I've only attended one service that was charismatic and found it disorderly and the

gibberish confusing.

Well, first of all, Grady, I'm glad that you found the gibberish confusing because if you understood it, I'd have my serious

fears about your mental state.

If you knew exactly what the gibberish meant.

But anyway, how do they justify speaking in tongues when the Apostle Paul

said tongues would cease?

And he is no doubt referring to the text

in 1 Corinthians 13, 8.

Love never ends.

As for prophecies, they will pass away.

As for tongues, they will cease.

As for knowledge, it will pass away.

For we know in part, we prophesy in part, but when the perfect comes, the

partial will pass away.

Now, not all cessationists use that as a proof text to

prove that tongues will disappear before the end

of time.

Many do use that as a proof text, but many don't, even though they believe that tongues will cease, they just don't use that

as a proof text.

Now, I'll pass that on to you, because I'm not 100 % sure where you stand on that text specifically.

Yeah, sure.

Yeah, some believe it's the completed canon of Scripture.

Some believe that it's being face -to -face with Christ in eternity in heaven.

Yeah, correct. Right.

Just out of curiosity, sorry to interrupt you, but would you say that that goes hand -in -hand with the

understanding of many Reformed cessationist Christians that

tongues were, in addition to spreading the gospel to

the Gentiles in foreign languages, they were also intended to be a sign of judgment against Israel,

and therefore, in AD 70, when you have God destroying the

temple through Israel's enemies, that sign of

judgment against Israel was basically brought to fullness, and therefore, the

tongues were no longer needed as a sign of judgment.

That's exactly right, Chris.

Well, I don't know if you are finished discussing that passage,

but we have to go to our last break.

If you have any further comments on it, we can have you provide those when we come back.

And by the way, thank you, Grady, and continue spreading the word about Iron Trip and Zion Radio in Asheboro, North Carolina

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in 1 Corinthians that usually is championed by cessationists?

And if not, we can move on either to another text of your own or to one of our listener texts.

Okay, so do you have a text of your own that you'd like to follow up with to exegete properly or do you want me

to go to a listener question?

All right, we have

Bobby in Hartsdale, New York, who says in

Acts 4 .32, we read,.

And the congregation of those who believed were of one heart and soul, and not one of them

claimed that anything belonging to him was his own, but all things were

common property to them.

There have been Marxists who have used this verse to support

socialism and even communism amongst Christians.

How do you respond to them?

Yeah, you talk about exegesis.

Yes, and this obviously in no way condones a government

enforcing the sharing or abandoning of one's own wealth and property.

The whole reason why this is even mentioned is this was a voluntary and loving act.

It wasn't something enforced by a government.

Well, I'd like you now to, since we are rapidly approaching the end of the show,

I'd like you to summarize what you most want etched in the hearts and minds of our listeners

regarding your program today.

In fact, I might even want to start off your concluding summary by

saying that just because we believe in the perfection

of the Word of God and that it is God -breathed and that it is inerrant

does not necessarily mean on this planet, the body of Christ will be in complete

harmony and unison regarding the exegesis and interpretation.

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even deformed to the point that they are teachings in the

minds of heretics, the opposite of what God intended them to teach, we have to

be very careful and ready and prepared to expose these false

interpretations.

So perhaps you could pick up where I left off there.

Yeah, that's right.

Let me

repeat

the

contact

information

for

Justin

Peters.

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lives that Jesus Christ is a far greater savior than you are a sinner.