Aliens, UfO's, and the Occult

Deuteronomy 18 and the Biblical Warning Against Divination

Non-rockabotas must stop. I don't want to rock the boat. I want to sink it.

Are you gonna bark all day little doggie, or are you gonna bite? We're being delusional.

Delusional? Yeah, delusional is okay in your world view. I'm an animal. You don't chastise chickens for being delusional. You don't chastise pigs for being delusional. So you calling me delusional using your worldview is perfectly okay.

It doesn't really hurt.

It's the unhop on man.

What?

What?

Desperate times call for faithful men and not for careful men. The careful men come later and write the biographies of the faithful men lauding them for their courage.

Go into all the world and make disciples. Not go into the world and make buddies. Not to make brosives. Right. Don't go into the world and make homies. Right. Disciples. I got a bit of a jiggle, Nick.

That's a joke, Pastor.

When we have the real message of truth, we cannot let somebody say they're speaking truth when they're not.

What's up, guys? Welcome back to another episode of Apologia Radio. This is Deuteronomy 18 verse 9 When you come into the land that the Lord your God is giving you You shall not learn to follow the abominable practices of those nations.

There shall not be found among you anyone Who burns his son or his daughter as an offering who burns his son or his daughter as an offering. Anyone who practices divination or tells fortunes or interprets omens or a sorcerer or a charmer or a medium or a necromancer or anyone who inquires of the dead.

For whoever does these things as an abomination to the Lord and because of these abominations the Lord your God is driving them out before You you shall be blameless. Before the Lord your God for these nations, which you are about to dispossess.

Listen to the fortune-tellers and to the diviners. But as for you the Lord your God has not allowed you to do this and there you go guys. That was Deuteronomy chapter 18 starting at verse 9 powerful Powerful words from God from long long ago from a long time ago.

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I'd say well, it's been it's been a long time. But I mean really in particular focusing in upon this issue. It came about because somebody that I love a family member Who's not a believer went into this and it redefines?

Human history for them. It gave them a perspective a Particular metaphysic or a view of what is real the doctrine of being what is what exists and why it does and so I went into deep into sort of the sources sitchin and all the rest all the big names and It's an important one and as time is going by This particular subject about UFOs.

That's the old term UAPs unidentified aerial phenomenon. This is getting more and more popular by way of guys like Bob Lazar on the Joe Rogan podcast and Steven Greer. You've got the guy from blink -182 Big and heavy into this right now.

And of course it is becoming more and more popular because as of late the government Itself is beginning to release Videos information. That is peculiar. You need to see it to believe it. You can't deny it.

So here's what I'm saying. We're talking about UFOs aliens and the occult today not just be something and I'll just play this video and let you guys jump in here. You know, this is not one of those things and this is probably a pet peeve that I can announce here.

What I don't like is When as Christians we get the reputation Where somebody provides evidence from their perspective even if it's spurious evidence, they provide evidence they put something in front of you and.

And Christians wave the hand and don't give an answer. That's appropriate. That's Solid logical reasonable biblical. I don't I don't think that's what we're supposed to be doing. And of course, there's a command in Scripture 1st Peter 3 15 to sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts.

Always being ready to give an apologia a reason defense to everyone who asks of you a reason for the hope that's within you yet. Do it with gentleness and with reverence now that's the command of Scripture and of course many of us recognize that in the area of say Mormonism or Islam or Jehovah's Witnesses or feminism or socialism or Marxism all that but in this weird area we talk about UFOs I think it's it's such a peculiar area Christians just sort of check out wave the hand and say Demons, you know, and and that's it.

But we have. Or sometimes they say Well, I don't. God never specifically said he didn't. Yeah, sort of the like, I don't know. Maybe maybe there are other beings.

On a planet. I would even be halfway satisfied if someone just said demons. But I think most the time Christians are just like that's stupid, right?

Don't even like they don't have an X. No no response. That's fake. Yeah, and that's a good point Luke because When you look at a video like this, this is a this is actually this came out a while ago. It was it was leaked a long time ago this particular footage here.

But the Pentagon recently as of the last week week and a half released three particular videos and declassified them that are UAPs or UFOs and Let's be honest can't get away from it. I can't do it when you have a military fighter jet You know honing in on a particular object that is defying the laws of physics.

That is going faster than the jet can that is changing direction in an impossible way. You got a bill to answer it and you got to be able to provide a biblical Worldview answer that doesn't simply wave the hand and let me just say this these guys know right here.

I am so so excited about dr. Grave at Stephen Greer's film Close encounters of the fifth kind because they laid their cards all on the table, and I'm absolutely grateful to God for it. They just laid it on the table and you will learn what that means.

Yeah, he has no idea like what how we're like. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah, very very much being honest. Exactly, and you'll see why we titled the show Forget which order the words are here UFO aliens UFOs and the occult because you will see it today.

We are gonna play clips from the new film by dr. Steven Greer. He actually announced it on Fox News. That's where I heard about it. But anyway, here is the footage from the Pentagon recently declassified I believe this is just one of them, but it's it's uh, it's pretty interesting footage.

So here you go.

The Worldview Behind UFOs, UAPs, and “Contact”

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One more here and so there you go. All right, so I do want to apologize for the language. I'll go ahead and tell you ahead of time if you have children in the room just be aware of the fact that There is going to be Language in a lot of this is I can't do anything about it.

I'm gonna be playing through clips of close encounters of the fifth kind and I don't have time to bleep all the stuff out. So there'll be some language in this and again, I can't do anything about it.

So I apologize for that, but it's an important discussion to have and I just want to point your attention To the fact that on that first that first clip there from those pilots you had an object that was defying The laws of physics and you can see it with your own eyes.

It's been this is not somebody's home video footage of them looking at some strange light in the sky above their house. This is something that is is actually acknowledged by the military. Declassified there are these things that exist that we apparently don't have an explanation for in some respects and so that's what we're gonna talk about today and You guys want to help lead into any of this right now.

Do anything in your mind before I get going?

I was just gonna say I feel like Not that many people are talking about the like the Pentagon. Releasing the videos right which considering that. How long ago was it that our people are like in a storm area 51.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's right. I know if it happened before Coronavirus, it seems like it was five years ago, but I'm pretty sure it was within the last like 12 months. Yes.

Yeah, I think they're gonna redesignate time now. It's gonna be like BC. Not for Corona.

Before COVID and after COVID. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So let's let's get right into this guys. We're gonna play clips from this film. This is close encounters of the fifth kind and let me just go ahead and at least sort of set this up and start you off in the discussion here, so This film is actually very interesting.

It's available on YouTube and iTunes Close encounters of the fifth kind we're gonna play through a substantial portion at the beginning here. So you sort of get the the ground underneath you understand kind of where this is coming from it's a fascinating film because I just want to say it outright they have actual footage of Contact with entities that are responsive to them and you just need to know that There is I guess never before seen Footage in this film of them out in the desert Trying to communicate with these entities and I'm gonna explain more about that later and these entities Respond to their communication and they have footage of it.

Some of the footage is quite fascinating. So if you guys want to get a chance to check out the film close encounters of the fifth kind Contact has begun. Dr. Steven Greer is responsible for this film.

It's very well done. I just gotta say that great documentary. It's very well done. Cinematography wise it's it's it doesn't look like a silly YouTube video. It's well done and it starts off and I explained this to Luke last week I believe it starts off with like very sort of like here's the evidence from the government's you can't deny this sounds very scientific and very sort of.

You know, let's let's observe the evidence. Let's not turn our heads from it and you're like, oh, that's interesting like wow, that's that's some serious footage and then The switch it goes right to where?

You I had to surprise that it was like wow half the film is dedicated to To an encouragement in a training session on how to engage in the occult.

Yeah, he's definitely. He is not secretive about it and I don't I guess maybe it's just cuz he Would like reject That like I don't know he would reject that. It's like a new age practice. He thinks he's actually engaging in like some sort of scientific right thing.

Maybe he does. Yeah, I don't know.

Well, there's a lot of support for that today because you've got guys like Larry Dossie.

That's all over the secular world. Oh completely people sort of stripping the like new age occult. Yeah characteristics of something in the name of yeah science or health even like with. Like tripping.

Mm-hmm for your mental health like on DMT or whatever. Exactly.

There's sort of a scientific veneer put over what are historically even though when you get down to it, it's like oh.

It's like oh we went on to the desert we chanted yeah for science. Yeah for science Yeah Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I'm sure you did. Yeah.

Yeah, there was definitely something going on. So, can you explain who's Steven Greer is for those like myself who has no idea?

Yeah, dr. Steven Greer. He was he was just on Fox News. So when the Pentagon dropped The or declassified the footage and they dropped it. It was all over the media last week Fox News one of the first people they went to and to comment on it was dr. Steven Greer.

Okay, dr Steven Greer has consulted with the military Heads heads of staff of different military organizations. He's very popular in this Field of UFOs alien contact UAPs all of that. So he's a very well respected and regarded person in this field Dr. Steven Greer, but there is no question.

No question after you see this film you'll see dr. Steven Greer for all of his Being erudite and scientific and in some areas of this field He is into occultism. I mean, these are essentially seances that they're performing in the desert to talk to.

Other entities. Well, I think he has been trained in some Meditation right type things. But yeah, he's a mate he's a big guy in the.

UFO community. He's recognized as a very serious authority to contend with. Yeah. Got it. All right. So here we go. This is Close Encounters of the Fifth Kind again. We're gonna play substantial portion of the beginning here so you can start it.

I want you to wait to hear it. Listen for it. Okay, listen to the presuppositions and the worldview behind the examination look. No, there are no brute facts friends. Get that very important. There are no brute facts.

Facts are always interpreted and they're interpreted via our worldview. There are no brute facts. There's always there always is a presupposition underneath That that helps to interpret the fact give it any meaning and you have to understand when you're listening to this Documentary or watching it.

These aren't just brute facts. There is a worldview driving the entire documentary and let's just see if you can hear it. Here you go.

We are living through the most extraordinary moment in human history. After decades of denial and ridicule Government officials and the mainstream media are admitting that extraterrestrial civilizations are visiting earth.

But.

There's a twist the same people and institutions who lied about ETS and just about everything else are now framing the Extraterrestrial presence as a threat and we are seriously thinking of the Space Force.

One man has been trying to warn us about this for decades.

If you're seeing this is because I'm either dead or have been entrapped or have disappeared.

Most of us are ill-prepared for open contact with an advanced ET civilization as our expanding cosmology Outgrows our theological institutions modern human society. Did you catch it?

As our expanding Cosmology outgrows our theological institutions.

Go ahead. Joy. You were gonna say something. I already forgot what I was gonna say. It was the thing you said right before that. Oh there. They use the word civilizations, but Just so you know, like that's a little trick because there's not actually discovered any civilization.

That's right.

Yeah, you know, yeah just saying just throw it out there just it was a nice it was a good intro.

But yeah, just interesting the load the assumptions loaded in. Right these other civilizations. It's it's it's really you've just you've discovered this. You know this scientifically.

They're not like. Yeah, there's no like they're not calling another planet and going hi. We're on earth. Are you on another planet and someone's going? Yes, we're on another planet. There's lots of us.

Like that hasn't happened. I'm not talking about the Aztecs.

No, no, no, but I just I wanted you look that's within the first minute and a half. What do you have as our understanding of this outgrows our theological institutions? That's a minute and a half into this documentary.

And what do you already have suggested. An Entirely new cosmology an entirely new metaphysic. There's got to be an epistemology underneath this in terms of how you know what you know and you're gonna find that near the end of the film of how do I know I'm making contact.

And you know, this this this is a whole new worldview. That's paganism and occultism is ultimately what it's a oneist Worldview, dr. Peter Jones was on with apologia a while back. Go watch his stuff on one ism and two ism all pagan religion all man-made religion is ultimately a oneist Religion versus a twoist religion creator creation distinction, which is a distinct element of the biblical worldview.

This is oneist all is one we are one we're part of this Evolving one universe. We're all just another aspect of it. So here we go. This next part watch is spiraling into decadence.

Narcissism depravity and nihilism. If we want to truly understand ETS their technology and their intentions We have to readdress our assumptions about the nature of reality and our relationship with the physical universe.

Isn't that phenomenal? It's it's all loaded up front right. What we're suggesting to you Is is an ethic because there's complaint about The cashmere side girl like talking about narcissism and all the rest.

It's like well who cares like it's all one universe. We're all evolved species. There's these other civilizations that evolved in the same universe. Like what? What are you talking about morality? So there's an ethic involved here.

There's a metaphysic cosmology and the cashmere outside. How about that girl?

Needs to learn a lesson from higher evolved beings, right? Maybe they're saying that she's an alien. She's from a different civilization. There's another group. Maybe she's saying catch me outside the.

Universe.

Yeah, yeah that girl is bad. She's bad. Yes, she's the OG nest yes the girl. Her mom her mom needs me needs to be put over someone's leg and spanked herself. Yeah her go like that. Anyway, so Episode so I just look more could be played in the beginning there.

I just wanted to play that portion loose. You have something to say.

I'm just gonna say thanks to Amanda. I just saw she Was popped in there and dropped a little donation. So, thank you. Oh right on.

Okay, so the next portion we wanted to play for you and then we probably go to commercial break is This this this I I found amazing. And you need to hear it. So sorry some of this got a little jacked up here at the Load, okay.

There we go. All right. So this next portion here very very important. These are all but excuse me all near the beginning of the film. I hate max.

So.

One of those. Yeah, so This is near this eight. This is about 17 and a half minutes into the film and I want you to listen to more of the worldview stuff. Loaded in remember this and the discussion about aliens UFOs UAPs Dr. Screet Steven Greer's film.

None of this is just brute fact. It is not you're gonna see the worldview driving this and it is on full display. Hang with us. This is gonna be a little longer episode. You gotta hang with us to the end.

I'm giving you guys all the foundations. I can't play through the whole entire film, but you need to hear this stuff. It's all worldview driven. So here we go about 17 and a half minutes into the film.

You just got to watch this whole portion. Two of as many landmark cases before becoming a whistleblower and legal counsel for the.

Disclosure project in 2001. It's helpful. Of course for them to say Oh UFOs are real. That's quite helpful. We've been trying to get people to understand that now for the last 30 years. But it's all immediately wedded to this fact that they're this horrible threat and so we have to come forward with a positive set of programs a Positive vision for this and that's what I'm trying to help get the Vatican in the Jesuit order to become involved in and putting forth You know a discussion about the theological and philosophical challenges that this presents to us, but it's not a national security threat.

You know, it's not a threat to our species. It's not a threat to our planet it's a threat to our view as ourselves as the The be-all and end-all that the entire universe was created as a stage on which to play out the human drama.

I mean, that's basically. That's basically it right there. Yeah, right. Yeah, this is all just a play. Uh-huh.

It's fascinating to me that Gosh, these guys, you know. So erudite and so professional looking and and you you have it all loaded up front like we really are trying to convince the Vatican Of the Jesuit order to like, you know start dealing with these things and it's a whole new theological, you know understanding and it's it understand what's happening here, this is this is a a a a understanding about origins cosmology metaphysics.

That comes from their worldview, right? They reject Jesus the biblical worldview and so they're trying to come up with some answer. For these entities that are making contact and I do believe they're making contact for sure.

And I mean they're engaging in things I read at the beginning of this episode God commands explicitly against because you try to make contact with other entities in another realm. You may not like what comes to talk to you.

Well, and at first.

You might yeah at first it might be very interesting. Yeah.

Especially if you're looking for evidence of a world without God.

And.

So, I mean just because something's working and something is giving you information or giving you a Physical sensation in the beginning like it doesn't necessarily just because something it Feels or seems good doesn't necessarily.

Mean that it is. Mm-hmm. It sounds like you're holding to a Christian worldview and you say So but what's interesting here is that look in Deuteronomy 18? I can cite more examples like Paul talking about Pharmakia the taking of drugs to get into an altered state of consciousness to communicate with the other side all that stuff.

Scripture condemns this because listen, it's real. When you engage in these practices you open yourself up not to like God and angels and like the beautiful bliss and light. You open yourself up to demonic activity.

You try to talk to a dead relative. What comes back is not the dead relative, right? It's demonic and there's this these stories can be multiplied over and over and over again. But I mean God warns against this stuff in Deuteronomy 18 9 and on listen the whole thing with like today popular stuff.

I think we've even talked about this the DMT Joe Rogan talking about DMT Yeah trips and like his mind has been changed because he's right legitimate. Contact with entities through DMT people taking ayahuasca all that stuff.

Listen, look pagans have been doing this for yeah ever. Yeah, right and they they take these drugs. They do these trips. They get into these seances and these alter states of consciousness to communicate with the other side and listen.

We have to be real with it. They make contact. But if you don't have a biblical worldview You don't know what you're making contact with and God tries to preserve and protect his people very early on in his law against this kind of occultic divination.

Necromancy communication with the other side, but it's it's in vogue right now, right?

Well, yeah, and we've talked about this before so this is sort of common knowledge, but in case anyone who's Listening is curious as to how like what you're saying even relates to Greer he has been very open.

The discloser prop the disclosure project has largely been him taking groups of people out into the middle of the desert. They set up shrines. Sometimes they do mind-altering drugs. They they meditate.

So we're not just talking like we're actually talking about people who are Engaging in actual Occultic yes new age stuff. Yeah. We're not just we're not just like connecting the two because he claims he's made contact.

Sometimes it's like sometimes people just go out to the desert with Greer and they see like lights Right in the sky when. But the point is I want you guys to to be aware of is that they are. They're meditating.

They're engaging in forms of not just like ohm but like transcendental meditation.

Exactly, and they're gonna explain that. Yeah, we're gonna play some of these clips. So you guys can hear exactly what joy is talking about. Thank you guys so much for staying with us. We're gonna take a quick break just to stay with us because this is where the exciting stuff is coming.

I'm gonna play after the break the the next portion. I'd love to do six hours on this, but I want to get you guys into the next portion. We're after the ground is laid in terms of like a new theological understanding new cosmology.

You know, this is what we're trying to make people understand is that we're not the main players like, you know. The universe wasn't either here. He said the universe wasn't created for us and You know, we're not we're not the stars of the show.

Well in one sense as a Christian, I would say right well. Well, because it's created for God in his glory, right? But you know what the truth is is yes. It was in a nuanced sense the universe was created to play out this human drama of Redemption where the image of God in fact is the star of the show.

All right, it ultimately is Jesus right as the image of God. So the human drama Actually is the main point because it's what brings glory to God through the story of redemption in Jesus. The perfect human and image of God do you get it?

So do you get the point? It's a subtle rejection. It seems like we're not the main stars of the show. Like there's those all these other entities and civilizations like we're an important part of it. But this is the evolutionary process of the universe and if you get it, it's onest.

It's a onest perspective of reality. And it's the universe is just humming along. However, it came into existence. We don't know but if we're all part of this one cosmos and it all is one guys. That's paganism through and through.

That's been the story from every pagan religion forever. And now it gets a really sweet and shiny Scientific veneer right like right on top of it when in reality it's the same battle that was playing out in Deuteronomy 18.

It's the same battle that's taking place in Corinth in the first century. It's the same thing over and over and over again, but you're gonna hear it. Explicitly so stay tuned because you're gonna hear it from Stephen Greer's own mouth.

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I'm the ninja. That's the girl right there and We are talking today about aliens UFOs UAPs and the occult my way of dr Stephen Greer's new film close encounters of the fifth kind. I actually skipped the portion where I Should have played it but you might be asking the question like what's a close encounter of the fifth kind cuz I've seen the film that's a third kind and Like what's the fifth kind?

Well, and then there was a movie called the fourth kind the fourth kind. Yes, exactly. He's had to.

Bring it up do one more number.

So you saw me do this because the fourth kind is is like three is where you you see alien an alien entity, right? That's the third close encounters of the third kind Steven Spielberg's film. Close encounters of the fourth kind is where you're abducted, right?

You're taken on to a ship. Close encounters of the fifth kind is where you'd make intentional contact with Alien entities whether across the universe in some other dimension via the mind non locality.

That kind of stuff and you'll hear in a minute how this sort of bleeds out into era 3 medicine. Larry Dossie some specific forms of even chiropractic care called core and specific technique or KST. And I hope if some of you guys have been involved in that you're here today.

Don't run far and fast from any KST practitioner. It is a cult is occultism. Disguised as medicine, but we're gonna talk about that in a minute. We're gonna jump right back into this guys. We've got a lot to go through here.

This is another portion of the film. It's about 19 and a half minutes in and I want you to hear it.

Here we go called the advanced aviation threat identification program run by an official named Luis Elizondo. I think this is a national security imperative. We have clear Things that we do not understand how they work Operating in areas that we can't control.

One of my first cases coming out of law school Was for NBC to establish the right of journalists to protect their confidential news sources. I did the amicus briefs for the New York Times and the Washington Post and also for CBS and ABC.

And it was at that time that I began to realize that there was this close working relationship between the Board of Editors of the New York Times and the national security community that there's Conversations going on all the time between the the Board of Editors and the national security people.

And we actually got an affidavit from Teddy Sorensen saying that oh, yes The national security state and CIA and everybody consult regularly with the New York Times to get them not to tell Information about covert operations that were engaged in.

I was surprised To find that out at that point I began to do an investigation about this as the lawyer for the Times now and for NBC and found out that there were 42 full-time Central Intelligence Agency or NSA people Employed by the major national news media and they had a whole entire project called project Mockingbird and that they were deeply embedded with it with the major national news media and they were constantly from their point of view Safeguarding that the information that was going to be allowed to get out.

Okay, so that point there.

I just wanted you guys to hear and I just want to acknowledge this don't doubt it for a second. I don't doubt it for a second that the government's involved in Communication with media and the story that gets out in the narrative.

Don't doubt it for a second. You don't have to be a conspiracy theorist or a tinfoil hat wearing weirdo to say that that takes place. No problem whatsoever. But the point being made in the film here is that the government is right now doing something dangerous because what they're trying to do is influence this massive under hysteria or understanding of the Entities that they are evil.

They want to make an interplanetary war with us that we should be fearful of them. That it's listen. This is building to the case that dr. Stephen Greer is making making in the film later that these are lovely entities and They only want our good and they want to help us and and we need to make contact with them to show them like No, we're open to you.