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How to make our announcement and then I'll introduce David ready to go.

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David Reeves is He has a big reach and actually

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I have to confess that I'm kind of a David Reeves Newbie, I've not really heard him speak before so that I think is more to my

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Disadvantage because it seems to me from learning about him over these last few weeks

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Oh, you've been preparing for tonight that he has quite a sphere of influence. So he has a weekly TV show on TBN Creation in the 21st century and he's hosted quite a number of great speakers including some of the ones that we've had this summer like Jason Lyle and Russ Miller and Some of the others that we have really appreciated

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He's David is a news columnist. He's also an author. He's written two books

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Although I think that the one that he's going to be talking to us tonight is actually also a book as well and then he's also full of energy and he

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Is a worldwide traveler and adventurer and a musician. I I hear maybe he's gonna share some of that with us tonight, too

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So but the the greatest thing of all is that he loves the Lord and he sees God's design in the world around us and it's his mission to tell people about the

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Lord and the science that supports the Bible and That's what he's here to tell us about tonight. So go ahead

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David Thank you so much. It's great to be here with you and to share some of this with you tonight

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Listen, I know there's a lot going on in the world and there's a lot of important things significant things going on in the world but I tell you what, there's this you always think that what you're doing is

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So significant and so important because it's personal to you, right? I mean everybody's that way at the same time this whole creation versus evolution debate is

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Actually, very very important. It's very crucial because the creation versus evolution debate or rather the lack of debate and Seeing evolution pushed as fact seeing evolution put pushed as the only way to think

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Has having a serious impact on Well our younger generation is having a serious impact on Pretty much everybody because we all suffer as a result of this evolutionary thinking that we're nothing more than animals all right, but over the past 13 years

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I've had the opportunities to see some extraordinary things to Research some things that I just want to share with you.

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And today I want to keep it really simple because we're talking about We're talking about a topic of science and the

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Bible. All right, so In my book 21 verses backed by science This actually was a spinoff of a topic that I've been researching for a number of years

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And I like to use an analogy. So let me just let me just throw it out here for you The Bible knows best.

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Okay, so there was an old TV series called father knows best There was a radio serial program that came before the

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TV series same title father knows best But you see I believe that the Bible is

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God's inspired word that it is inspired by the father himself. So if The father knows best well then by implication the

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Bible should know best also, all right, so What if we put it to the test?

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Okay, now I have people come up to me all the time and they're like like David, you know, we're Christians We we don't need this.

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We we have faith that the Bible is true All right, but here's where I have to stop for a second and I have to I have to point out we have faith that Jesus Christ Lived died was raised again payment for our sin, right?

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But there are millions That's that's that's a low estimate millions and millions and millions of people who are

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Struggling and they're struggling not necessarily with their Christianity. Do I believe that Christ died for my sins?

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But they're struggling with do I believe the Bible is the inerrant inspired

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Word of God and Frankly, that's a crucial issue because it undermines the gospel itself so If the

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Bible knows best then we should be able to look at certain verses that appear to have scientific implications

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And we should be able to look empirically observably at the science behind those verses and see what we what we find

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So that's that's the whole idea of 21 verses backed by science it's a super quick read because we're just going through 21 verses and we're looking at how those verses are scientifically accurate and By the time we're done.

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We'll see that those verses were scientifically accurate and written down thousands of years before Science figured it all out.

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All right, so Let me start with a simple one. Most of you who are familiar with Creation science have heard this before but I'm hoping that this is reaching some ears that might be a little bit skeptical on YouTube So Genesis 1 1 says in the beginning

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God created the heaven and the earth Sounds pretty simple in Hebrew. It says better. She thrilled him at Hashem.

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I am the at Torres Here's the thing that Simple verse holds some profound truths.

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All right so let's ask the question as we read these different verses and I'm gonna read as many as I can of 21 until we run out of time, right

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But let's read Genesis 1 1 in the beginning That's the creation the very origin of time itself.

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God created the heavens Well, there's space and the earth it rats. That's matter.

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Okay, that's land. All right So you've got the creation of time space and matter in the very first verse of the

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Bible All right, that's the origin of time space and matter in the scriptures

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But what does science say? All right Well current atheistic science now says that yeah time space and matter are the three basic components

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But we only know how to answer Two of those. All right, that's what atheistic science says and they point to the

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Big Bang They'll say 14 billion years ago all the matter in the universe started expanding rapidly and it created the universe including space and time as It went as it expanded but wait a second here.

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What did we just start with? 14 billion years ago all the matter in the universe. Whoa, where did all the matter in the universe come from?

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all right, so the matter has to have origin and The Big Bang Theory doesn't attempt to give us the origin of the matter

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It only attempts and I believe it's a poor attempt to explain the origin of time and space

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The matter is a complete mystery for those who don't understand the implications the historical implications of the

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Word of God Okay, so we've already gotten off to a pretty good start and we're one verse into the

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Bible in the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. All right as We go through this

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I'm gonna say the Bible knows best every time we go to a Scripture and we find that it's scientifically accurate.

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Let's let's look at another one Jeremiah 8 7 says the stork in the heaven knows her appointed time and it also talks about the turtle dove and the crane and The swallow or the the sea swallow

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All right. So is that poetic or Does the Bible know best is this accurate science?

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Well, let's talk about the sea swallow for a second. You see the Arctic turn is a seabird It has a global population estimated of about a million

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Arctic turns they live about 20 to 30 years on average and they take a particular course that varies

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From year to year to take advantage of prevailing winds and so forth. All right

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So let's let's think about these birds for a second I'm going to put up a slide if I can do this

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Everybody see that. Yeah. Okay. So what you're looking at is a is a slide of The globe.

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All right, and what you'll notice is The journey of these birds these

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Arctic turns they may start in Greenland or the Netherlands. They'll travel southward along the The western coast of Africa, their southern tip of Africa, they turn they'll travel eastwards all the way to Australia, sometimes to New Zealand before then they turn southward again they spend

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Their summers, our winters in Antarctica traveling around and when it's time to move north again.

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What they do is they take an entirely different path. Usually Sometimes up the coast of the

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Americas in an S shaped curve to find their way back to where they started.

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All right. Now that in itself. How are they able to find their way. That's incredible along But that was a global map right there.

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All right. So these birds are traveling about 56 ,000 miles every year. And I just told you, how long do they exist.

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How long do they live for 20 or 30 years right So we're looking at a bird that travels about 1 .5

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million miles in their lifetime, a million and a half miles.

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Those are frequent flyers. All right. So does the sea swallow know what to do.

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Does she know when to move out. Do they know where to go. Do they know how to find their way back. Does the hawk fly by our wisdom.

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Does the sea swallow know what to do, where to go. Absolutely. And you know what's so spectacular.

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I believe is Jesus Christ in the New Testament talks about birds and he uses those as an out as an analogy.

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He's like, you know, it if Our Heavenly Father takes care of the birds.

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How much more does he care for us. You see, because yes, all of God's creation is special.

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It's designed But we are created in the image of God fearfully and wonderfully made, which means that God has provided certain things for us and he will continue to provide certain things for us, even in the midst of Viruses going across the globe, even in the midst of panic that is ensued because of a virus, even in the midst of all sorts of difficulties and trials and I know we've all been through our share of those.

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I certainly have even through all of that. He has it all in control. And so we we need to remember that Alright, so yes, the sea swallow knows where to go and what to do travels 1 .5

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million miles in its lifetime. The Bible knows best. So let's look at another verse.

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Found in the scriptures and then ask the question, is this scientific. Now this one is a

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Psalm 139 it says Thine eyes did see my substance yet being unperfect and in thy book all my members were written which in continuance were fashioned when as yet there was none of them.

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Okay, so what does that mean. All right. It's using some verbiage there that's pretty interesting talks about substance book members being written and fashioned in continuance

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Let's talk about DNA for a second deoxyribonucleic acid DNA can be expressed as a written language that creates a blueprints your book that makes you who you are.

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And someone 39 says that all of those components are written in the

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Lord's book from day one before you were ever formed. Okay, that's pretty special.

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So geneticists will tell us, they'll admit, you know, there are trillions upon trillions of combinations that make up human

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DNA. But you see, if you were to calculate it all out your DNA sequence human

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DNA would fill up about 1200 encyclopedia volumes. So that's a lot of information.

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Then you have to remember that that entire 1200 encyclopedia volumes worth of information can be found in nearly every cell of your body.

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So what that means is that you actually don't have 1200 encyclopedia volumes of information in you right now.

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No, you actually have Enough information to fill the entire Library of Congress 35 million books.

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That's just in you right now. I mean, think of the sheer This is astounding.

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This points to complexity and design because you see language doesn't write itself. Information language system of DNA points to a designer and intelligence and not just any intelligence because again we're seeing all of these clues all throughout the scriptures

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That seems to point us back to scientific implications, including Psalm 139.

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Alright, so does the Bible know best. Absolutely. We basically have a code written code.

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It can be expressed as a written language that makes us who we are. We're 100 % completely unique our iris and retina contain unique patterns, not found anywhere else on planet

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Earth. No two palm prints are alike. Every fingerprint is unique. And this is something

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I've been doing for years. I know it's a little bit corny, but I love anybody watching this right now. Look at your fingerprints.

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Check out your fingerprints completely unique. Look at your thumbprint. Not another one like it on planet

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Earth that makes you somebody We're fearfully and wonderfully made.

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This is my point, the Bible knows best and it's pointing us back, not only to a designer, but we'll get to who that designer is in just a moment.

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Alright, so let's look at another one Leviticus 17 I believe it is says that the life of all flesh is the blood thereof.

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Okay. When I was researching for this book, I stumbled on this one for just a second.

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For just a minute, because I couldn't figure it out. I read this passage and I read it again.

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And I read it again. And I'm the life of all flesh is the blood thereof. The life is the blood.

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But see, I know That some life doesn't have blood a sea sponges, things like that.

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And like, no, no, no, no, this can't be the Bible knows best. There's, there's something that I have to be missing.

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Because I know that God's Word is true. I kept rereading it and rereading it and reread and I realized

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I was missing a very important word there. The life of all Flesh is the blood thereof.

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You know, yeah, there are creatures that don't have blood, but the creatures that don't have blood don't have flesh.

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So literally the life of all flesh is the blood thereof. Now, let's, let's ask a very scientific question here with a fairly recent example.

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All right, because bloodletting was a common practice during the colonial times.

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People would take blood out of themselves to try to heal themselves or to try to become more healthy. If they had a certain disease or if they weren't feeling good.

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Okay, now the average adult human Contains about 165 if my memory serves me about 165 ounces of blood average adult human.

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It's estimated that in the hours just before George Washington's death, they took out about 125 ounces of his blood.

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In other words, they took off took out nearly all of his blood and they took out his life.

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So the life of all flesh is the blood thereof. That's, that's quite scientific, if you ask me.

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It means that the Bible knows best. But again, recent example bloodletting tells us that we didn't even fully understand all of these implications.

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For a very, very long time. So how did the Bible get it right. I mean, it's not like the authors of the

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Bible were these great scientists. I think about it. Many of them were poets and kings and and shepherds.

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So how could they have known. No, let's keep on going. We'll get to that Leviticus 1133 says every earthen vessel were into a dead thing falls

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Break the pot. In other words, if you find if you find a dead animal that has died in your earthenware pottery.

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Break it. All right, let's think about this for a second. The Israelites. This was a command given to the

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Israelites. Many people say, well, well, you know, they Your God is so oppressive. He was trying to create all of these oppressive rules silly things and just see if he could get their his people to break those rules so he could punish them.

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I did a tick tock recently on on this very topic. Do we have a mean vindictive

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God right Which, by the way, we've had about we just hit 2 million views on tick tock as of last week.

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So a lot of people. A lot of young people are interested In that topic.

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A lot of young people are saying, well, we've been told by our friends who are skeptics that, you know,

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God is a God of hate and and we shouldn't be following him because He's either not real or he's just out to get us.

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Okay, same thing going on. They'll tell you, well, why do you tell them to break the pot. These people are poor people.

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They're Israelites wandering in the desert. Why are you going to tell them to get rid of their good pottery

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So the very next verse says if it's earth if it's if it's a clothing or something that they're not going to be eating out of wash it, use it again.

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Don't you know reason to throw it away or break it. But if it's pottery that you're eating out of break that pot.

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Why would he say that does the Bible know best Well, let's think about it for a second.

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It wasn't until the mid 1800s when Louis Pasteur, a Bible believing creationist

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Who through scientific research experimentation. I'm talking about real science here observable repeatable demonstrable empirical science.

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He pioneered germ theory. He did tests. He was initially mocked. Okay. But then people realize the others microbes.

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There are germs. Well, the majority of the Israelites didn't have the money or the means

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To glaze their pottery their earthenware jars glazing seals off the pottery from germs and microbes.

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Okay. But if you don't glaze it a dead thing falls in there might have had a disease. Who know why did it die.

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Why do you just fall in the pot and die. All right. The next person to eat out of that pottery may catch the disease may catch whatever this animal had

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Nobody would have known that and God didn't have to explain it. He was giving it for their own good.

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He was like, I don't have to explain myself. These things are for your own good. If a dead thing falls into a pot break the pot.

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Guess what I've been to the Holy Land about About 12 times, I guess I've dug in excavations with the

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Israeli antiquities authority. I've been been all over the world, but I've never seen more pottery broken pottery than in Israel.

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It's It's everywhere, everywhere you step, you're picking up shards and fragments of pottery nine times out no 99 times out of 100 it's unglazed so Was God caring for the

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Israelites by giving them these simple instruction, I believe. So I believe that the Bible knows best.

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It's certainly is scientific in The command to break the pot. And that's not all.

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We also see separating diseased people from camps. All right, wait a second.

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What do we got going on in the world today. All right, what we actually see are separating healthy people are quarantining healthy people keeping healthy people back not quarantining just the diseased but quarantining healthy people as well.

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And I think that that may be A grave mistake when it comes to our economy.

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I think it may be a grave mistake when it comes to the future of society.

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And I think that has a lot of implications. We're seeing things playing out right now in the world where if we just went back to the

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Bible. It says, okay. If somebody has a sickness, a disease. Is clear separate them away from the healthy keep them for an extended period of time observe them.

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And if they get better than they can return to society. There's a lot of wisdom to be found in the

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Bible. Now, mind you, up until the 1800s. These people symbol vice

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Louis Pasteur, they were they were mocked. This was during a time when

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Doctors would take pride in wearing filthy operating gowns full of the blood and bodily fluids of their, their past patients.

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Right. And because it made them look like they had more experience. And we know.

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Now we know all of these disgusting. They were passing along the diseases to their next patient and they had no clue.

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And yet the Bible said washing running water. The Bible said break the pot.

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The Bible said separate the disease from without the camp. The Bible knows best again scientific in every aspect.

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Alright, so this is a this is a short read. We're just going through as many as we can today and and we'll call it quits as soon as we run out of time.

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But we've gone through a number of verses just so far. We've seen that it is scientifically accurate in every way.

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There's a good reason for that. Um, let's talk about Job 26

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Job 26 another. I mean, these are all various verses found scattered throughout the scripture.

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We're not talking about just Genesis. We're not talking about just one book of the Bible versus scattered throughout.

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We've talked about Jeremiah, we've done Job. We've done Leviticus. We've done

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Genesis. Job says that God stretches out the north over the empty place and he hangs the earth upon nothing.

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All right. Does the Bible know best. There are a lot of ancient cultures that believed that the earth was a flat disk.

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Yeah, there's a big flat earth movement that went on a few years ago. It's died down a good bit, but I took the brunt of the force because of my interest in astronomy, of course.

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But, but I know all too well that these people are very, very sold on the idea of a flat earth.

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The idea of a flat earth came from ancient Hindu belief. It was a pagan belief.

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And they believe that the earth was a flat disk like basically like a pancake sitting on top of a bunch of giant

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Elephants and these giant elephants were all standing on top of a giant turtle and that giant turtle is floating in a giant pool of water.

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Sounds fanciful. But again, this is what some ancient cultures believe they believed in a flatter.

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What did Job say he hangs the earth upon nothing. All right. I'm going to go to a slide here.

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What do we see, what do we see what is science shown us Science has actually shown us observable repeatable data has been brought back from satellites and from spacecraft and all sorts of things, showing us that earth.

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Is suspended on nothing with the blackness of space all around. I mean, think about the description.

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He hangs the earth upon nothing. And you look at this beautiful place perfectly positioned for life with the blackness of space all around.

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And he loves us so much. He's given us an abundance of things on this planet for our own good.

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And so often we take those things for granted. So again, the

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Bible knows best. We've got good scientific data for all of these things taking place.

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Now let's go to another one. Let's this is in job as well. Many of you who are familiar with With creation writings will be familiar with this one.

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It talks about behemoth. It says behold now behemoth which I made with the he did grasses and ox.

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His strength is in his loins his forces in the navel of his belly many Bible commentators

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They were trying to figure out what this animal was. So they said, well, maybe it's a maybe it's an elephant. Maybe it's a hippopotamus.

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Again, most of these Bible commentators were writing these commentaries Before modern scientific discovery.

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All right. I mean, I'm going to be leading a paleontological tour in Kansas in the

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Niobrara formation in A matter of weeks. In fact,

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I know we've got some of the people watching with us who are going to participate on that and and learn about digging up giant bones.

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That actually points back to a global flood. Alright, so a lot of the

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Bible commentators had never seen a dinosaur before So they said, maybe it's got a lot of strength in its belly.

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Maybe it's an elephant. Maybe it's a hippo. All right, of course, completely ignoring The, the portion of the the passage that says that this creature moves his tail like a cedar tree.

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All right. It's not an elephant. It's not a hippopotamus. So what is it. Well, even in the last

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I would say eight years there have been astounding discoveries in Argentina dread notice the titanosaurian sauropod

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Many specimens of these giant creatures have been found some of them over 100 feet long from head to tail with giant, giant tails.

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Similar to this creature right here, a sauropod dinosaur. Could that have swayed its tail like a cedar tree.

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Absolutely, absolutely. So just because we don't see an animal alive today.

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That sways its tail like a cedar tree. You don't automatically assume that the Bible is false. You don't automatically assume that it's some other creature that Maybe the

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Bible just exaggerated a little bit. No, the Bible has stood the test of time. God's Word has stood the test of time.

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So if it says that there was a creature giant Creature behemoth that had a ton of strength in his belly that swayed its tail like a cedar tree.

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You know what, it's pretty safe to bet that there was a creature That was giant had a lot of strength in his belly and swayed his tail like a cedar tree.

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What do we find we're finding these creatures just within the last hundred years in abundance and the largest ones just within the last few years.

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So in other words, paleontology science is observing Things that the Bible already told us about In other words, the

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Bible knows best. Just one more verse scientifically scientifically backed up Now let me point out

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Do we need these verses to be scientifically backed up for them to be true. Absolutely not. The Word of God is true, no matter whether science decides to back it up or not.

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Science has to catch up to God's Word. What I'm showing you today. I'm hoping that you take little bits and pieces of these that you share them with your co workers that you share them with a skeptic that you're trying to have a conversation with Because these little things.

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I call them faith builders, you can use these little faith builders. To show people who are somewhat sitting on the fence are completely opposed to a biblical worldview that listen, there is actually evidence all out there and it's evidence in abundance.

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Alright, so second Peter talks about a world that was overflowed with water and perished and this global flood account you actually read

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Details about it in Genesis six and the next few chapters. All right.

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If you look at Genesis six and you read it. The first thing you notice is it reads like a historical account, you've got

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You've got dates and and times and ages, the, the ages of Noah, you've got

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The, the day when the water started, you've got all of these associations. You've got the dimensions of the arc.

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So many details that you don't find in fairy tales so many details that you don't find in most of the flood legends and there are many, many flood legends, which is no accident, those flood legends.

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All are because it, it had a serious impact on people. People all took away and started spreading the word that there was a giant flood in the past.

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But only one of those accounts holds the historical detail. And that's what we find in the Word of God.

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Okay, so it describes this global flood a catastrophe, which Literally reshaped the planet.

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So if there was a flood like this. Well, there should be a lot of evidence does the Bible know best

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Right that that's the reason I love that phrase. Does the Bible know best. Yes, it does.

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Because the Father knows best and The Bible is the inspired Word of God, not written by mere men, but inspired to mere men so that they would write down what was entirely accurate scientifically historically prophetically and when it comes to the gospel.

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That's the reason this is so, so, so crucial and so important. Alright, so small scale catastrophism has been observed to form geological formations.

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Really, really rapidly. I mean, you might talk about the miniature canyon that was formed after the 1980 eruption of Mount St.

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Helens. So in 1980 Mount St. Helens erupted. This is the 40th year anniversary right now and two years after the initial eruption, which laid down layer after layer after layer of mud and volcanic debris and ash right

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There was a smaller eruption and it caused this mudslide to eat through all of those layers and form a canyon very quickly in a matter of hours at Mount St.

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Helens observable demonstrable that we could see happen with our own eyes.

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That we could measure with instruments. And it actually matches some of the patterns that we see in the rest of geology.

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Now that's evidence of catastrophic event with massive amounts of pressure, heat, and still pliable sedimentary layers.

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Let me give you an example. Alright, and I don't have it with me. I should have prepared for this, but one of my favorite things to tell people to do is take a little piece of plywood.

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Just cut a little strip of plywood. Plywood is like laminated wood. It's basically different layers of wood all glued together so it's hardened, solidified.

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If those layers were not glued together, well, they would be somewhat pliable, but because they're all glued together like that, it makes them really, really hard.

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Alright, well, you find rock layers all over the earth with smooth bends and curves.

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Let me show you a picture of one. I was in British Columbia on a one week speaking tour a few years ago.

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And a man came up to me afterwards. He said there's an example of this right up the road and he gave me this picture that he had taken along a road cut.

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Check this out. Look at this. It's so smooth. It's so, it's so fluid.

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And yet, if you were to take a piece of plywood, a little strip of plywood, same thing, instead of rock layers all cemented together, turned to stone, it's layers of hardened wood glued together, turned into a very solid piece.

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Take that piece of plywood and start to bend it into the shape that you just saw.

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Before you're able to bend it that much, that plywood, and I do this example in front of audiences, thousands of people sometimes, and people laugh when they see how simple this is, right?

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Take it, bend it into a smooth shape, just like you saw. Before it gets this far, it snaps, it splinters right down the middle.

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Boom. Okay. And then I tell people, let's do real science. Let's try it again.

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So I take the half of the piece that I just cut off and I start to try to bend that into the smooth pliable shape that we see in rocks.

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Boom, it snaps right down the middle. Doesn't bend at all. And then I take that half of that piece and I do it again.

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You know what, we've just done a repeatable, observable, demonstrable experiment, real science, that shows that hardened layers, solidified like that, splinter, snap, crack, snap, crackle, pop.

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All right, they do not bend like we see rock layers bending in the geological record.

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So how did the rock layers bend? Well, they were bent while they were still pliable. In other words, mud layers, layers of sediment, mud, sand, silt, and other debris, right, lay down very quickly, layer after layer after layer, sometimes in miles thick in some places.

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And then they started to buckle and the earth started to move and push on these things before those layers hardened, to which an atheistic geologist will reply, ah, yes,

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David, you're right, you're right. You see, these things do have to be, have an extreme amount of pressure before they bend.

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But if you thrust these layers several miles deep, well then the heat will heat these layers up and then you can bend them.

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And then over the next millions and millions of years, then the layers just re -expose themselves and now we see them bent.

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The problem is, if you do that and exert those kinds of pressures and heat to these sedimentary water lane flood layers,

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I might add, they will not be sedimentary any longer. They'll be metamorphic or igneous, right?

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They'll be fired up. They will be transformed by the tremendous amount of heat. They're not going to be sedimentary.

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They're not going to look like that. So the only way to get these types of layers that we see all throughout the world is to bend these layers while they are still soft and pliable before they lithify, before they harden.

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Wonderful proofs of just what Second Peter was talking about, a flood. Not only a flood, a global flood, because we find these smooth layers in British Columbia, Canada, the picture

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I just showed you, we find them all over the earth. It's also proof that Genesis 6 is a historical account of that flood, because we see all of the data there.

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It says that the fountains of the great deep broke open in tremendous amounts of mud, sand, and silt and sediments would have then been washed across the pre -flood continents in tsunami -like waves.

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The mechanism is all there to produce exactly what we see in the geological record all around the earth.

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So again, the Bible knows best, even when it comes to a global flood.

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All right, let's look at another one. So far, we're doing pretty good because everywhere we look, we're seeing these clues that point back to biblical authority and biblical inspiration, divine inspiration.

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Isaiah 27 talks about another dragon. It's called Leviathan, and it lives in the sea.

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Job 41 says, Canst thou draw out Leviathan with an hook? None is so fierce that dare stir him up, his breath kindle with coals, and a flame goes out of his mouth, to which many people say,

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David, you've really lost it. You had me up to this point. But you're talking about a fire -breathing dragon. We all know fire -breathing dragons are the things of fairy tales.

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They don't exist. So does the Bible know best? It does sound a bit like fantasy, because I've never seen a fire -breathing dragon.

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That doesn't mean it didn't exist. Of course, the bombardier beetle is a modern day example of a creature still living that uses scalding hot chemicals to produce an explosive effect.

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All right, so basically it has multiple chambers inside of its abdomen, and in those chambers are different chemical components, hydroquinone and hydrogen peroxide, usually.

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And it's basically when the beetle feels attacked, what it does is it has a cannon in its backside that it can aim.

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And it aims that cannon at its attacker, whether it's an ant or a spider or something like that, aims it precisely in the correct location, shoots these two different chemical components into a third chamber with a catalyst, starts a chemical reaction, and it literally explodes scalding hot chemicals out of its backside and it repels the attacker.

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The best way to show you that is to, I brought a little video. A friend of mine actually filmed one of these things firing.

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And let me see if I can make this work. Check this out. All right, so you see it?

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Boom, right there, just that quick. I'm going to do it one more time. Check this out.

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And it feels threatened and boom, right there, precisely at the right point at the right time instantaneously.

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But that was 30 frames a second right there, what you just saw.

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30 frames a second. We're watching it in real time on a video chat conference right now.

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If you were to slow that down, I don't have this footage with me, but it's remarkable. If you were to slow it down to 960 frames per second, what you see is not, boom, what you see is that beetle aiming its cannon and all of a sudden it lets off a machine gun fire.

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In precise precision. All right, how does this happen by chance, number one?

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I mean, the beetle should have exploded if it had to evolve all of these features by trial and error.

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It should have exploded before it ever evolved a cannon to expel these scalding hot liquids. It should have blown itself up.

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This is an example of irreducible complexity. And a lot of people abuse that term, but this truly is an example of irreducible complexity.

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If you take away one of the features of the firing mechanism of the bombardier beetle, and my good friend,

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Dr. Andy McIntosh, he's a professor at Leeds University in the UK, a dear friend. I've had him on the program a number of times.

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He studied these things in detail. We actually did a video together called

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Oh, Murray, what was the title of that? Chemical Warfare, the bombardier beetle.

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And we looked at the mechanism of this incredible little animal that can still do something that remarkable.

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Alright, so let's get back on topic. That was on topic. Because if a little beetle can do that, well then what if one of these fire -breathing dragons had basically one other component.

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It had an igniter or a lighter to ignite chemicals as it was expelled from their mouth. You've got a fire -breathing dragon.

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So it's not beyond the realm of possibility. Absolutely. But is it why haven't we found these things?

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They're supposed to be so fierce that none dare stir them up. You can throw spears at them and it bounces right off.

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I mean, these are these are basically tanks of the sea, giant sea serpents, giant dragons.

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Why haven't we found them? Well, I would like to suggest that we may have found at least their cousins.

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You see, Leviathan might very well be a

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Tylosaur or a Mosasaur. You've seen them in the movies. You've seen them come snatch up T -Rexes and other animals out of the water.

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They're giant. They're ferocious. They have been found up to 60 feet long.

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Mosasaurs or Tylosaurs may be in the same family as Leviathan, a giant vicious sea predator that you did not want to stir up.

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I certainly wouldn't go swimming with those things. Now here's the thing. We found them. I've dug up their skull, sections of their skulls before in Kansas, in the middle of Kansas, about 1000 miles from the nearest ocean, about 2500 feet above sea level.

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You find giant 50 foot long marine animals.

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Now, you tell this to an atheistic paleontologist and they would say, David, we admit that.

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That's where you find the best specimens, Kansas. We're digging there in a couple of weeks and we dig stuff like this up.

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They say, yeah, you find this kind of stuff. But what you don't understand is this is not a global flood.

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What this was was a giant inland sea many millennia ago where these creatures lived in this little inland sea thing.

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And then eventually through tectonic movement and through seafloor rising and lowering

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Basically, they got stranded. It's now above ground. It's now exposed in the

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Niobrara Formation in far western Kansas. And now we just find them there, but that's not proof of a flood.

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Well, number one, let's just talk for a second about the implications to what we were discussing in the scriptures,

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Leviathan. They seem to match the description pretty well. They would have been very, very similar creatures.

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And so the Bible knows best, even when it comes to some of these giant marine creatures.

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But were they buried in the global flood? I would say most definitely, because you find these things in such abundance, along with millions and millions of clams, you find them along with tens of thousands, is a conservative estimate, tens of thousands of fish.

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Some of these fish were buried so rapidly that there are fish within fish. 18 foot long scissor tails of Phactinus fish with fish inside of them.

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Didn't even have time to digest it. It just turned to stone, fossilized.

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They were covered over so rapidly that they were fossilized that well preserved. So this was a catastrophic event.

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It wasn't a mere inland sea that had hundreds of thousands of years to dissipate and just left us some clues as to the origin of these things.

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This was catastrophic. This was the flood. So, yeah, the

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Bible knows best, again. Let's go through a couple more. How are we doing on time, y 'all?

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We got about 10 minutes left, do you think? Let's look at Job 36.

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Job 36 says, and I'm just going to read these to you, and I want you to give me the answer.

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Just think it in your head as as we go through these, right. Behold, God is great, and we know him not.

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Neither can the number of his years be searched out. For he maketh small the drops of water.

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They pour down rain, according to the vapor thereof, which the clouds do drop and distill upon man abundantly.

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Amos 9. He that calleth for the waters of the seas, yet the seas not full, unto the place from whence the rivers come, thither they return again.

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Ecclesiastes 1. All the rivers run into the sea. No, this is the one we just did.

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Amos 9 says, he that calleth for the waters of the sea, and poureth them out upon the face of the earth. And Job 37 says, dost thou know the balancings of the clouds, the wondrous works of him which is perfect in knowledge.

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All right, four different verses scattered all throughout the scriptures, and they seem to be referring to something.

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Have you guessed it so far? I'm going to say the water cycle, the hydrological cycle. All right.

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But when we study the hydrological cycle, what we find is that it was around 30

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BC that a fellow started to understand how the hydrological cycle may have functioned, but it was only in 1580 when it was fully charted and mapped out.

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All right. Before then, many, many people, ancient Greeks, for instance, thought that the water in rivers or streams, that wasn't enough.

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The water from the rain wasn't enough to feed the rivers and the streams. Okay, so they didn't understand the cycle.

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God understood the cycle because God created the cycle. He created the physics that made the cycle, and it works for our own good.

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All right, so four different verses scattered throughout the Bible, and there are several others I didn't mention, all pointing to the hydrological cycle.

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The Bible knows best. Psalm 8, and this is my favorite. Psalm 8, this is a story of a man by the name of Matthew Fontaine Mare.

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He's known as Pathfinder of the Seas, and his story goes something like this. You see, he was extremely ill one day, and his daughter came in with a

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Bible, and she sat down on the chair by his bed, and she said, I'm just going to I'm just going to read you a little scripture here.

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I'm just going to try to comfort you. I know that you're really sick, but maybe this will cheer you up, you know.

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And so she starts in the book of Psalms. She turns to Psalm 8, probably randomly, but there's no coincidence with the

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Lord, okay. And she starts to read, What is man that thou wert mindful of him, and the son of man that thou visitest him?

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For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, and crowned him with glory and honor. Whatsoever passeth through the paths of the sea,

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O Lord, our Lord, how excellent is thy name in all the earth. And Matthew sat up in bed at that point, and he started to repeat.

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He said, paths of the sea. He said, if I ever get out of this bed,

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I'm going to figure out what it means by paths of the sea. And that's what he did. He devoted his entire life's effort to charting the ocean currents, the paths of the sea, paths that ships still follow to this day.

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And I brought a picture. Let's see if I can get it up Of these paths. Check this out.

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It's the little orange lines and the little green lines. And this is a global map.

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You're going to see if you look closely, you'll see The Americas there in the center, you'll see

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Africa over on the right hand side and Europe and and so forth. All of those little green and orange lines are the paths of the sea.

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Matthew charted those, but he charted those because he read in the

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Bible. And he said, maybe this is not merely poetic. Maybe if divine inspiration is true.

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There is scientific wisdom within these words. There's a monument in Virginia erected in his honor.

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And it says to Matthew Fontaine Murray, Pathfinder of the Seas, says the genius that first snatched from the oceans in the atmosphere, the secret of their laws, says

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His inspiration, Holy Writ. Now I would say the

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Bible knows best. In other words, he got his inspiration from the Bible.

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How much more could we discover if we started right there. Let's go through.

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Let's go through one, one or two more and and then I'll wrap up. There was a man with the name of Vestos Leifer in about 1912.

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He was using the Lowell Observatory telescopes in Flagstaff and he measured the apparent

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Doppler shift Of galaxies of distant galaxies.

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So he's looking through a telescope and he sees that some of the far away galaxies are redshifted

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And he didn't really realize the implications of his find until others begin to propose explanations for his observation.

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What it looked like to him, because when things are redshifted and I don't have time to go into it, but basically it's a

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Doppler effect. So when things are redshifted, what it means is that Apparently, and there are other explanations.

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It seems that galaxies are getting farther away if they're redshifted randomly flying away.

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But why would they be randomly flying away. So that was 1912 approximately in 1927 there was a

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Jesuit Belgian priest, the name of George Lemaitre and Lemaitre proposed, he said, wait a second

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Vesto Yeah, it seems to be real. There seems to be an expansion going on. But what if instead of randomly galaxies flying away.

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What if the entire universe is being stretched out. And that was amazing because nobody had ever thought about that before.

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Or had they Now he took that idea too far. By the way, George Lemaitre, this Belgian Jesuit priest, he said,

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He said, well, wait a second. If things are expanding outwards. Well, then why couldn't we just track it back billions of years and put it all together into a cosmic egg and then

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And then eventually became known as the Big Bang Theory, which in my opinion is not sound science.

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So he took it too far, but he saw something that appeared to be repeatable and observable redshift in galaxies.

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All right, let's go. Maybe for our final we'll see. For our final scripture reference for Bible knows best.

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All right, Isaiah 4022 says that God stretches out the heavens. Zechariah 12 says that he stretches forth the heavens that this is the burden of the

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Word of the Lord that God is stretching the heavens. Okay.

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Nobody could realize the implications of what was discovered when they found this redshift

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But it's basically like the heavens are being stretched. Now I find that so astounding that the more we learn about science, the more we learn about physics, the more we learn about astronomy and cosmology and geology, biology, genetics, paleontology, zoology,

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We can go on and on and on. The more we learn about all of these scientific fields, the more it's actually keeps pointing us back to what

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God's Word is always said, always said Thousands of years before good science caught up.

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So, so far, so good. The Bible's standing the test of time when it comes to good science.

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Can the same thing be said about evolution? This may be a good place to wrap up.

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What's the definition of religion? Merriam -Webster defines religion as Basically a cause principle that is held to with extreme fervor.

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Okay, evolutionists believe And by the way, it's held to by faith with extreme fervor.

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Evolutionists believe these intellectual atheists are convinced

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That The universe created itself 14 billion years ago, and they don't know how, but they're convinced that it created itself purely naturally.

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They are convinced that somehow If we track back the origin of life long enough that nonliving matter became life, that nonliving components and chemicals and rocks became life, even though We've never seen it.

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We've never observed it. We've never been able to prove this in a laboratory. We've never been able to document this in any way.

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All right. These atheistic cosmologists believe that stars simply started coalescing on themselves.

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They eventually exploded and created galaxies and nebula and and planets and and so many different things.

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Even though we have never. We've seen many stars explode. We've never seen a star coalesce in on itself.

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We've never seen one star form, but they believe they have faith that given enough time, it must be possible.

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In other words, they believe all of these things that I just mentioned. By faith, and they hold to them with extreme fervor, almost religious fervor.

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Okay, that's the very definition of religion. So what does that make evolution? I mean,

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I really do think that it is a religiously held belief system that has placed on a pedestal.

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It hasn't done away with the need of God. No, they Atheists in their attempt to get rid of God have actually created a pantheon of gods and I did a

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YouTube video about this called the pantheon of atheism.

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And it was chewing this over my head one day and I realized that they think that they've been so brilliant and they've done away with everything.

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And they only have naturalism. All they need is natural causes, but they haven't done away with God.

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No, they replaced him with a pantheon of gods of their own. What I mean by that, their pantheon of gods that they have placed on a pedestal, the

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God of time, given enough time, anything can happen. The God of natural selection.

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Nature will select. It's almost like nature has a mind. Nature doesn't have a mind.

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Nature can't select anything. It's only because of God's diversity and his forethought that we see the adaptations that we see within the animal kingdom.

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Time and natural selection have become their gods. They have many, many more gods that they hold to with religious fervor to explain the origin of the universe by chance.

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But they've not done away with the need of God. They've created their own. They're appealing to supernatural beliefs.

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Supernatural beliefs and they don't even realize it. It's a pantheon of pagan gods.

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But what does our creator say? We're supposed to worship him in spirit and in truth.

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We're supposed to give him glory for everything that he's done. I host a TV show on TBN every week.

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It's called Creation in the 21st Century. It airs in about 100 million households in America and then it's overdubbed into countless languages worldwide.

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I'm on my seventh season now and I also invite in many, many brilliant guests, friends of mine, so that we can have logical discussions about these things.

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So you can catch that on our YouTube channel, davidreeves .com. David Reeves Ministries is the

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YouTube channel. Davidreeves .com will get you to the different avenues. That also airs every week on Trinity Broadcasting Network every

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Saturday. We have a TV show called Wonders Without Number. It airs every Tuesday on DirecTV on NRB Network and it airs three times a week on the largest cable provider in Israel.

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We've been incredibly blessed. The last 13 years have been amazing. We've had the opportunity to go all around the world.

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I've had the opportunity to study astronomy and astrophotography and cosmology in detail.

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And then because I've hosted a number of video projects, one called Echoes of the Jurassic for the

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Creation Research Society, where we look at soft tissue in dinosaur bones. Completely different story.

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We don't have time to get it in. I'd love to come back and discuss further. Echoes of the

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Jurassic, we've got a Refracted Glory, which was produced by a friend of mine.

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I hosted it, but we look at the amazing complexity of hummingbirds, hummingbirds from a design perspective and show how it leads back to the

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God of the Bible. So we see all these patterns of design and you have to ask yourself, is there a designer?

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Yeah, there's clearly a designer. That's what Romans 1 .20 says. God's made it evident. All you have to do is open your eyes, look around.

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The problem is, is it just intelligent design? Because if you stop there, you could say, oh, intelligent design?

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Well, there's an intelligence. Aliens, right? There's the end of the story. You can't stop there.

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You have to ask yourself, who was that intelligent design? Well, you know what? There's only one answer to that question that is logically, empirically, observationally consistent with everything we've seen, and that is the

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God of the Bible. So who was the God of the Bible? He created everything in six days, and he loved us so much that in this vast universe, we've got a tiny speck floating in space that we call

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Earth. It could be a piece of debris is what some people have explained, and yet it has all of the characteristics for life, for human life, to support us, to not only support us, but so that we can thrive.

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And God loved us so, so, so much that he reduced himself to flesh, to mere man.

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He came to this Earth in the form of Jesus Christ to live, die, and be raised again in payment for our sins so that we could be with him for eternity.

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That, that's why it's so important. The science in and of itself means nothing. The science in and of itself, we could take it or leave it.

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I could take it or leave it. I find it cool, but I don't see the purpose of it unless it brings us back to giving glory to the one who created the sciences, the one who created all of the universe, and the one who created us in his image, which means we just have this tiny fraction of ability to study, to comprehend, to explore his creation, and we're faced with only two options.

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We give him glory for it, or we try to explain it away completely by naturalism and chance.

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So that's what we do. We really appreciate the opportunity to share this today, and I thank you all so much for organizing.

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It's been great, David. Oh, sorry. Go ahead, Terry. Yeah, thank you so much,

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David. I admitted at the beginning that I'm a David Reeves newbie, but I'll admit now that I'm a fan.

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That was very informational and also encouraging, so I really appreciate that.

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Now, I was looking at your Superstore online, and I saw that you have this 21 verses backed by science as a

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DVD, but what if somebody wants to get the book? So the book, you should be able to find those on creationsuperstore .com

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in a three -pack, like a witnessing three -pack, and also if you call our number, we can get you, it's a short read, it's about 50 pages.

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I wrote it that way intentionally. I wrote it mostly on planes traveling and speaking, but you can get bulk quantities, a hundred or more, for practically nothing.

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It makes great witnessing tracks. I basically give these things away, if you buy them in big bulk quantities, just to get the word out there.

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We've actually sold about 10 ,000 of them so far, and we've had so many people come back, and they were like,

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We've been a Christian, but we kind of were on the fence there. School got the better of us, and we were thinking, well, maybe there's nothing to this

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Christianity, because everything science is showing seems to be saying there is no God.

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They were like, wow, we read the book, and it's all right there in the Bible.

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Really, all you have to do is read the Bible, and you can see these scientific proofs that are faith builders.

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I would challenge people to go out and use those faith builders to witness. You can find the DVD version, which goes through way more than we had the chance to cover today.

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It's the winner of, I think, three different film festival awards. It's called Bible Knows Best, 21

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Verses Backed by Science, or you can get 21 Verses Backed by Science, Deepen Your Faith, in booklet form.

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Okay, great. All right, well, hopefully we can have you back, like you said, to talk about dinosaurs.

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That would be really great, so we'll work that out. I think Robin's going to turn off the recording now. Come with me on a dinosaur dig sometime.