It's not wrong to look back at the past and say, we've missed some things, we've lost some things, all right? There's nothing, I mean, look, the longing that David expresses in the Psalms, wanting to be in the house of the Lord, you look at when Israel is in captivity, the longing to want to get back to the land, there's nothing wrong with that, there's nothing wrong with being a patriotic American who looks back and says, we have a good heritage, I'm really, yeah, there's some stains, but you know what, we missed something, we've lost something, I wish we could get back to it, and she seems to think that's not good, that's a sentimentality that makes us stupid, I think it's a sentimentality that makes us strong, it means we know what we're rooted in, we know our principles, we can look back and say, we've missed something, and she says that, you know, we fear that people will negatively influence our children, yeah, yeah, we do, that's part of being a parent, it's part of being a protector of the home, if you're a father and a mother, you should be protecting your kids, you should be teaching them according to God's rules, and so to belittle that, she says, with my unbelieving friends, I tread carefully, carefully for her children, or carefully for the LGBTQ community, this is what she says, for example, I respect the rules of the LGBTQ community, I know these rules well, I help make them, I remember the right names, so that I don't confuse the children raised in LGBTQ homes, I know who the mama and who mommy is, and I teach my children to get it right, I speak to my neighbors with respect, are you wives to each other or partners, I ask these questions because I care, I ponder, have I made myself safe to share the real hardships of your day -to -day living, or am I still so burdened by the hidden privileges of Christian acceptability that I can't even see the daggers in my hands, am I safe, if not, then why not, even in a post -Christian world, we can claim unlearned privileges rooted in sentimentality for days gone by, we can yearn for the 1950s in America or a medieval monastery, but sentimentality will lead only to discontent, best stay right where we are with eyes of faith wide open, that paragraph is a minefield, exposing your children to the rules of the LGBTQ community, legitimizing those rules by asking who the mommy, who the mom is, I mean, what if it was a couple that the woman, let's say it's a lesbian couple, wants to say I'm the daddy, what do you do then, the logic of this would say you respect the rules of the LGBTQ community, right, so she doesn't say that's what you're supposed to do, she brings up a kind of a more tame example, but you know, how far do we take this exactly, and do we consistently do it, you know, let's say it's a transgender person, and they, you know, were born Bob, and they want to be called Sally, okay, do you call them Sally once, but then have a conversation and correct it, or do you just always call them Sally, I mean, look, names are a little more subjective, because there's weird names out there now, you know, that feminine names for boys, masculine names for girls, and you can never, and some of their, you know, are either or, so I realized those lines have been blurred somewhat, but I have to ask though, where do you, if you're going to make the LGBTQ community your standard, and their rules your standard, then you have to be very careful here, because you're going to quickly get into compromising territory, and you're going to teach your children to do that, and you're going to teach your children that that's respect, to call someone something that they are not is somehow respectful, and this is not, I think, biblical, because it's not truthful, you're engaging in the delusion with them, and you know, I'm going to tell a story here in a minute, but you know, she talks about the Christian community here again, the hidden privileges of Christian acceptability, that I can't see the daggers in my hands, I mean, this is violent language, if you don't abide by those rules, there's daggers in your hands, that's pretty radical, not in the good way radical, like that's like, you know, if you refuse to abide by their rules, this could be a lot more clear, I'll put it that way, this could be used as a weapon, wielded like a sword, for someone who likes revoice stuff, and obviously she contradicts the revoice narrative, she even says revoice is a different religion, which I agree with, but they could use a paragraph like this, and you know, go to town with it, there needs to be a lot more qualifications here, and you know, I'm going to tell a little story here, real quick, so I was, I lived near where Rosaria Butterfield lives in Durham, North Carolina, and when I first went to Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary, the first person I met, we'll call him Mark, was a guy who worked at a gym, and I went into the gym, and I gave Mark a track, and Mark read it, and the next time I came in, I said, Mark, what, did you read the track, what did you think about it, and he's, oh yeah, you know, we got into this discussion about religion and Christianity, and I invited him to church, and I gave him my number, and he texted me, and he said, I can never go to your church, John, because I was born this way, what way, well, homosexual, and I knew that about him, I didn't ask him what way, but I knew he was, he was, he presented it to me like I didn't know, and I was like, yeah, Mark, you know, I knew that, and he said, well, they won't accept me, and I said, yeah, they will, they accept all different kinds of sinners, all different degrees of sin, and, and so, I, I, before I even progress with the story, I just want you to realize, like, number one, I, I identified what he was engaged in as a sin, or what he thought of himself, I didn't even know if he committed a homosexual act, I still don't know, but his identity, I, I, you know, identified that as sin, so we have all kinds of sinners, right, I included myself in that, I gave him a track right off the bat, so I, I didn't do this whole, like, well, let's woo him over time, and step on eggshells, no, here's the gospel, repent, so this opened the door, though, to talking with him more, and I, I decided I'd just talk to him the next time I went to the gym, and he texted me the next day, he goes, John, do you think I could change, do you think I could have a, a wife and children, and, and live a normal life, it blew me away, I was like, what, this is the guy yesterday who was saying he was born this way, he'll never change, and he, and come to find out, he was abused as a child, in a men's restroom, and had a strange relationship with his father, and there's a lot of things going into this, that, didn't know what a man was, was always asking me what a real man did, with various things, and I'd try to give him biblical answers, so I, I tried to be smart about it, instead of doing the radical hospitality thing, and inviting him into my house immediately, we, we met at neutral locations, and part of that was, he's saying he's homosexual, I don't want to put him in a compromising situation, where, where he, you know, if he's, I don't know what he thinks about me, I don't want him to unnecessarily have, you know, desires to be welling up in, within him, because he thinks he has an opportunity, in a private location, or something like that, we, we went out to breakfast, and those kinds of things, and I would just, I'd share the gospel with him, over and over, he got it in his mind, that he needed to be heterosexual on his own strength, and I had told him, I said, Mark, I think, I, I didn't tell him what some of the Revoice guys would have told him, which is, you're a homosexual, you were born that way, but live a lifestyle of celibacy, you know, come to Christ, you know, that's a great sell, no, I, I told him the truth, that, you know, God's will is for humans, which you are one, to, to be living in a heterosexual relationship, to leave father, mother, cleave to wife, have children, yeah, I think with God's grace, that's possible, Mark, and he wanted to do it on his own strength, to make himself acceptable before God, he thought that he needed to kick a habit, I'll put it this way, a habit that is common to a lot of young men, heterosexual, or homosexual, or whatever, but he, he felt like he needed to kick that habit, before he could be presentable before God, and I kept saying, Mark, he accepts you where you're at if you repent, and if you put your faith in Jesus Christ, and he wouldn't do it, and there's a sad ending to this, he told me that he couldn't kick the habit, and that he was trapped because of that, and told me bye, the day, it was the day I left for the semester, I was leaving school, heading back to my home, and he said, I can't do this, and I called him back, and I reiterated what I had reiterated every time, it's the grace of Christ, but he, here's the thing, he knew during that three -month period that I cared for him, he could call me anytime, that I would drop things to talk to him, to answer questions, he knew that about me, and he didn't reject me, he rejected Christ, that was very clear in the message he sent to me, that it was the lifestyle that he couldn't kick, and it wasn't even homosexuality, it was this habit that he had formed, and he couldn't kick the habit, and so all that to say, I did not abide by the rules of the LGBTQ community, I didn't tell him, well, you're, that's one of the rules, right, you're born that way, I didn't say, yeah, you're born that way, I didn't abide by that, and that's, when you say that we're gonna abide by the rules, it sounds like you're gonna hand a blank check, I think you should be mindful of the rules, in a way, you should be mindful of the way they view themselves, but you're gonna have to be truthful, and it's better to be truthful early on, because if you try to, you know, form a relationship with someone, and then, hey, by the way, I'm a Christian, and this is what God thinks about your sin, you know, that could, that seems like the bait and switch, in my opinion, so I think being upfront is the best thing to do, and you, and it doesn't contradict being hospitable to someone, you can be upfront and hospitable, and upfront meaning you, you know, use language that does not accept the sinful lifestyle that they've engaged in, and so, so I don't know if that blesses folks out there, you know, I hope it does, that's why I shared it, but I don't have a problem, all that to say, with going into these situations, as a Christian who's a, who's also conservative, who's an Orthodox Christian, who believes that, you know, I don't want to compromise biblical truth ever, I can engage these kinds of conversations and be confident, and I think there was a respect that Mark had for me because of that, I, the whole time, he asked me so many questions, you could tell, just, you know, looked up to me in a way, and it was because he didn't believe in grace, that he didn't, he couldn't accept grace, that he went his own separate way, and I don't know where he is now, but look, I have had the privilege over the years of knowing more than one former homosexual who was engaged, some of them, you know, one of them in particular, I'm thinking of engaged in the lifestyle, as far as you can take it, pretty much, and has a wife, has kids, it's gone, you know, is not, doesn't view himself that way, and it wasn't because Christians had approached him, and they were abiding by the rules of his community, and trying to kind of walk on eggshells around him, or not bring up things that would cause him offense, and at some point, that hard conversation needs to come.