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Can you show me because we're going to use some hermeneutics. Can you show me anywhere in the old testament where that word perpetual is not perpetual? Because again, I understand you're appealing again.

Sure. No, no, no, hold on. Where any of god's laws? Hold on. Hold on. Wait a minute. I thought I was going to get to have a talk here. You you asked a question. Hang on a second, sir. Be quiet now. Okay.

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I will mute you because it's not your show. You asked a question. I'm going to give you the answer. Genesis 6 4 the word olam is used referring to those who are of old Deuteronomy. I'll get just rattle off all the ones where it's used not referring to perpetual genesis 6 4 deuteronomy 32 7 joshua 24 2 1 samuel 27 8 job 22 15 psalm 24 7 24 9 25 6 41 13 77 9 90 verse 2 103 verse 17 106 verse 48 119 52 143 verse 3 Proverbs 8 23 proverbs 22 28 proverbs 23 10 and ecclesiastes 110.

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But uh, we don't have a specific topic tonight. We are going to be talking, uh, just open q a so any questions you have. We're going to be seeking to answer them. Let me bring in none other than the one the only pastor.

Justin pierced. Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello. Hey, justin, you know your friend your friend and mine my fellow co-host on the um. You know on my other podcast the rap report. Uh, we were talking on the rap report about ravi.

Zacharias Talked about the fact that he had uh, he had claimed at one point that he had a doctorate from a university and taught at that university and the university had said that. You know there was that he never attended classes there that he never got a doctorate from there and so um I I you know bud and I talked about it.

We talked about how easy it is to get a doctorate and well I got something in the mail to this week. I got my very own Doctorate bud. Oh, man. Hey, look at that. He wrote my name right there where it says Your name here so I could I could say I have a doctorate of ministry.

You are right Dr. Divinity. Andrew rapaport from the universalist.

Outreach church or whatever right. Universal life church seminary. That's exactly where I want my doctorate from. Well, you feel official right. You're like, you know, well you can see you can see it they they signed it and everything.

They just put right put your name here. So he just wrote it in a marker and I will say this. Actually the funny thing about this is um. You know, I got this. I thought I told him I was coming down to florida and I said when I get there You know, I want to you gotta you gotta give me that.

Well, he he gave it to me in this nice frame. I mean the frame actually is a really solid frame. It's really good.

He spent more on hit on the frame than you did on your doctorate. That's pretty.

Yeah, I I I almost just I I was toying with the idea of leaving it up. You know either up above me right there where that is. Yeah, they're a manuscript from Uh, the ten commandments out of deuteronomy and and here if I move my head, there's my shofar.

Um, and yes, I do know how to blow the shofar. Um. Should not do it indoors though. It's quite loud. It is definitely meant for outdoors. I I am toying with if it if it wasn't so expensive of a gift. I I was toying with the idea of bringing it to california.

There's a guy that when ray comfort preaches. There's this guy that blows the shofar. And I was thinking of bringing mine. Because i've seen his his is a little one and I I could be much louder. I I thought about dueling.

Dueling so far.

To get a crowd so we're up here at the uh up at the race and I had a brother of mine a good friend. He's a messianic jew or biblical christian. Um, thank you. Okay, i'm just saying uh, but but he uh has the shofar and they blow it every saturday.

That they they do their services and whatnot. So he comes out and he went right out in the middle of the race area and he just started blowing that thing and I said You know so far so good, but just a little much.

That thing was loud. All right. So we have. We have some questions already. Uh, bill is asking andrew rapaport. Are you buying dinner tonight? No, my wife made it. I didn't need to. Uh, chris is asking will dr. Silvestro be on tonight.

No, we tied him up and he's actually laying down there on the floor in the back behind andrew.

Yeah, we're trying to prevent anthony time. No, actually, uh, dr. Silvestro is up teaching right now. Um, With uh, mike riddle, they're doing one of their communication courses that they do with cti. He will he's up.

So he's up in denver. He's going to try to make it. Uh doesn't know what the internet's going to be like there. So we'll see. I do have some some big news, uh to mention but before that let me bring in our other Guest co-host just to add confusion.

We'll have another justin's. That's right the man. Yes.

I am doing well doing doing very well. How are y 'all?

You're becoming a regular here. We're gonna have to start adding to the list of hosts and just put your name on the list there. So it's anthony justin and justin, you know. Yeah.

We gotta we gotta come up with some way to distinguish between uh, pastor justin and This justin.

And well, how would you like how would you like us to distinguish? How about how about we do it by age? Let's do it by age. Oh that doesn't help. Yeah. So which one of you is actually older in months because we now know you're the same age today.

We just found that we just found out.

Uh, he's older than me by uh, two months. Is that right? Two months. Yep. Yeah, two months. Wow. And uh,.

Four days two months and four days. So with all that gray in his beard, he looks like he's older than you by years.

Well, i've got it's the red. It's the it's the scottish, you know, it's coming out.

So so, you know, there's something I I want to announce and and I'm gonna put it this way. It's funny that justin would be here because justin actually makes fun of me when we travel together. He does because even when I I travel we go to the philippines.

There's there's a couple things I bring when I travel one. I bring lots of cables. I have this little bag. I'll bring it out. I always travel with this and he thinks it's funny because he his his he Didn't have a phone cord that was working.

Uh, and so he needed one and so I opened my bag. Let's see if I can do this. And these are all the cables I travel with. Yes. So so basically I travel with a ton of of Cases of cables and all sorts of batteries and things so i'm never without.

Um, oh chris honholds has said howdy we'll be listening while driving home praying for a good show. Hey chris. We love chris honholds. What's the reason radio? You should listen to that. And I I was going to bust on chris During this show, but he has a headache and i'm not going to do that.

I did have a plan but He has a headache, but I but there's another thing that I travel with that. Justin peters thinks is funny. And that is that I always travel with my my pillow. I love it. I'm, sorry, but That leads us into some news now now.

Justin pierce. Yeah, go ahead on a my pillow. What's that? Have you ever slept with a my pillow? I have two of them now. I'll let you go ahead and give your part first. All right. Well, okay. Justin peters.

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So we appreciate I I love my my pillow. Um, matt slick used to laugh at me until he got one and now he travels with one, too so.

Well, what I what I was going to say is I got one, uh, probably nine months ago. I got actually two of them. I bought one got one for for basically free. You know, it's how it is buy one get one and uh, I I got two of them.

My kids stole them so they they've got it but um, the reason I got it is because you know, you know, mike lindell was being attacked because How dare you be a christian and and and speak, you know the things of god speaking in the the things of of righteousness and definitely don't be a conservative and so, uh, you know, unfortunately he's being uh, just maligned and slammed.

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Uh, we really need to be able to support one another, you know as christians and as conservatives as well uh, because the cancel culture is alive and well, I mean.

Very much so. Yeah, we uh, we're actually my wife and I are planning on uh getting my wife was just like, you know, I want to get I want to get some of his pillows as gifts for people and so we're gonna.

You know, we're gonna be uh hopefully. Uh doing that, um now, you know, there is some question, you know, uh. For christian folks that have been following you know, uh. You know, mike liddell's been very passionate about his his conservative politics um.

You know, he's he's a relatively new christian. He's got a book out I think on his life came from a you know background where he uh was I think it was crack that he was on. And uh basically ruined his life and started the my pillow and and really.

His life turned around, uh, he is professing a professing believer. Uh, though I think he may be in the word of faith so, um, you know, but uh, you know, he's he is. Uses the platform that he has with his company to promote christ.

I I don't know if you guys saw when when trump allowed him to speak. He did what you're not supposed to do when you're given that opportunity and he he basically tossed his notes and just preached the gospel to the press.

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They even have bathrobes there now. I just noticed they even have pajamas they they got a lot there a lot more than you know, uh, I knew of previously so um. What we're going to do is I want to Um really open it up tonight to anyone with questions now.

There was a question here for since justin you're here. There were some questions for you. Before we get to that. I would like to bring in we we did have a a review. And that was emailed to me. But the person who emailed it is actually here.

So i'm gonna bring him in um. And brad welcome to the show.

Thank you guys. Thanks for having me on I really uh Really appreciate it and just a just a pleasure to be here with y 'all and uh to spend this time with you. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah I was actually gonna say just a little just a little shorts just a little short thing here um, it's pretty amazing actually how i'm actually here, um watching this and just god's grace through this because um Uh, one of the one of the people who's in the chat right now kt and jesus um, I was A while back.

I was following tony miyano for a while and you know it was I didn't think much of you know, what was you know, anything that was going on and stuff and Um, somebody had wrote on twitter Um asking for a good church in davenport.

And not really knowing anything. I kind of had heard some stuff actually because I live in iowa and my church heads I think I actually had some people that went there to grace fellowship church and they said, uh.

They said yeah, that's Not good. And but at the time I kind of just disregarded it. Um, but um, so I um send a text or Copy tony in it. I just you know said here you may want to talk to tony about this.

Well, then kt and jesus Sent me something through twitter saying hey, you may want to check into this. Um, and so it led me to you guys and i've been watching you ever since and I just can't thank you enough for your ministry, um how much.

Um, it's blessed me and how much I know it's probably blessed so many others and uh, just want to say thank you. And um god bless you all.

Well, thank you very much that that is encouraging because uh, i'll speak for myself, but I think pastor justin would agree. Uh doing those shows was not easy. Yeah, no, I I really felt bad for anthony.

He spent like hundreds of hours researching all that and it's just He was listening to all the stories of all these women. I mean women that haven't come Public yet and he would talk with them and their husbands and they and they would explain what went on and the husbands and wives and and it was hard for him to listen to he he was just you know, he could he he couldn't even tell me most of them because He just didn't want to even repeat them.

It was sad. Very sad. Yeah. Yeah so.

I guess well, my question is just kind of um, just something I just has had been thinking about. Um, so it it's as it has to do with um, Uh as to actually go back there goes to genesis. Um, so. Just trying to figure out what this kind of just kind of understand this when it says.

Talking about the waters above the expanse. Um trying to just make sense of what that I guess what that's referring to um, what what is it and I guess just more or less Just trying to see how it correlates to what we know about how god created the universe.

And just seeing how what that's all about.

Yeah, I sent this question over to anthony for him to email you and he probably will get to it when he's back gets back from travel, so. He he's probably going to have uh looked into this a little bit more uh, but um when I taught through genesis and I think that the the idea is that there's just there was just waters now.

There is a a theory that some had. It's not as many people hold to it now. There was this idea of a canopy theory. And so what many would say is that there was this canopy of water That was in the air and that blocked out the sun's radiation.

That's why people live longer and then when the flood what it actually was is the canopy broke. And all that water came down and that's how it flooded the earth um. There's that's how some interpret it.

That's a commonly held position by many of the older creation scientists uh the reason That many of the creation scientists don't hold to that today Is simply because it doesn't work. I mean the math doesn't work if there was such a canopy.

Uh the earth the temperature on the earth the the thought was that it would be this even temperature. Where it's warm and you wouldn't need clothes and all things like that. Um, but it actually would be too hot.

And there there's just some issues with it mathematically. And so people don't hold to that anymore okay, now. Uh, what is it? Well, I think I my position is just that there's there it's trying to explain That there was a difference between these different layers.

And he's explaining it, you know that and so this is genesis chapter 1 verse 7 and god made the expanse and separated the waters which were Above which were below from the expanse of the waters which were above the expanse and it was so.

And god called the expanse heaven okay, so. The idea there is that there is some level That you have between what we would call clouds and the water and the water that's we'd say on the ground.

One thing that you may want to also consider in that Discussion is you know, you have what's called the ozone layer, you know, and we have that uh up there. That would be a type of Canopy if you will, uh, and and so.

When you're looking at genesis, I mean you're looking at uh, non-repeatable events you know, uh. Miracle events worked by god where god works into creation to create what has never been and so when the when we're talking about this, this is speculation, you know, it's.

Uh, some of it is speculation because we weren't there. And so we have to look at what the words say and as andrews, you know saying some people looked at it as the canopy theory um and um I there's been a bunch of them that have went with that route and then others that have said no no, no um.

You know, what is it? I don't know. I wasn't there. Um, I I. You know, I I personally I just I look at it and I say, uh, it's what it says right there in the bible. You know, it's it's uh, it's the heaven, you know, it goes up in the heavens god called the expanse heaven.

So um. That's where i'm going to go with it and that's about as far as i'm going to push that um. You know and i'm and i'm not going to go Into you know, uh an atheist comes along starts talking to me about this and they're trying to disprove or you know agnostic.

Whatever they're trying to disprove Uh the bible and they start going because they do it they'll go to this section here. They'll say see this is disproving and they go wait a minute. This doesn't prove or disprove anything, right?

Okay. All this tells us is a narrative about what what actually happened.

Right. And yeah that that's more or less what i'm thinking. It's like it's you know, it's not to do away with it. It's just to just make just make understanding of how god did it now. Let me give one warning.

Okay?

This is not poetry. Okay. Some people will say uh, the neo-orthodox Uh guys will say this is hebrew poetry and it's there is nothing in genesis. That's actual uh, uh real from the first, uh, seven chapters that it's uh, all hebrew poetry and that is not what this is.

I agree. This is historical narrative is what it is. So you have to. Uh stand on that and don't let anybody try to gear you towards, you know, because here's the thing. Um, uh The ark encounter guys and justin you're going to be going down to this conference.

They're going to this conference. These guys stand on this hard. Um, every single doctrine. Is either explicit or implicit in genesis? Why do we have sin, you know, who's our who's our messiah, you know, what was sin all of those things the savior you're talking about.

Where's israel come from? What's the purpose of of god all of the things? Who is god? How did we get here? Have we been here for you know, thousands of years or millions of years? So this is not, you know, some kind of uh, uh, Poetry or or why not?

This is historical narrative. Stand on that.

Yeah. Yeah, that's good. Yeah, totally agree.

Peters. Do you have anything you want to add to that?

Well, I I kind of wish. Uh, jason lyle was here with us. Yeah.

Yeah, we don't sit back yeah.

Okay, so so here's a funny story with jason lyle. I remember we're I picked him up at the airport and he was coming to a church by my house. He was coming to the airport. So I said I'd pick him up and and uh,.

You know, he stayed with me the night and then he went to the church. So We're sitting there and I told him I said, you know, we got bible study, you know, it's in when teaching through jess. Says, how about you teach tonight?

You know because he could just rattle off this stuff like real easy. He's like no. No, no, no. No, you teach you teach. I want it. I mean look you got you got jason lyle and you're talking genesis. Give me a break like he's he's the guy to have right?

So I fortunately know jason well enough that every time a question was asked I gave half answers. And he was like well, let me answer that and so. After a couple of them, he just got into teaching mode and he just took over.

And I got to sit back and just enjoy. So if you ever want him to you know teach you just have to give half the answer. You know, don't give full answers and he'll he'll take over.

A little trick that would do it. Yeah. Hey, have you guys um speaking of genesis? Uh, jason lyle and I actually were uh at the first ark encounter conference they had um, uh, jason was out there with um, uh Ray comfort and a bunch of the guys were out there and they were doing the the easter conference.

And so uh anthony anthony was there with his family as well. And so I got to sit and talk with jason for a little bit about a question that I had on genesis chapter 1 verse 5. And god called the light day.

So he makes the light verse 4 and 5. And I I asked him I said, you know when we're talking to atheists and agnostics evolutionists and whatnot they try to throw up the problem with the The the distant starlight the red shift all these different things.

And they'll try to throw out these arguments and I I asked him I said, um, I want to ask Why is it that? That christians don't stand on the fact that god it says here in plain uh hebrew that god Uh saw the light that it was good.

Let's let's go back to verse 3. It actually says um. And god said let there be light. And there was light. Okay I said why don't we stand on the fact that god made all the light and not made the light to travel.

He made it all at once in place where it's at and then it started moving in its normative Uh relation to you know, the scientific ability of light and he and I sat and talked about that for a little bit and he said, you know, that's uh, people are afraid that you're you're dealing with miracles and people are afraid that you know, they would.

You know dismiss that I said, but they're already dismissing it. You see the point that's uh being made here God didn't make the light at mars. And then say i'll i'll give it a million years to reflect over here to earth or whatever it takes.

Uh, or or and you know, the the farthest light that we know of. And and give it that amount of time to come here god created the light and all of it was created.

Well, here's and here's jason's reason for saying that uh, he doesn't hold to a position That god created light Millions of light years away that would travel here and the reason being is we've seen Stars die.

Yeah, absolutely and therefore It would take Many light years to get here. But there haven't been in that many light years to even You know of the earth. So the idea would then be that god actually created the light Of a dying star that of a star that never existed.

Right that that would almost be deception. So he has a very interesting view of starlight. That it it's always a good view Scientifically when no one can ever disprove it. There you go. Okay, so you end up with a view that that becomes.

You know, if you can't disprove it then you know, it's it stands right kind of like an oort cloud. Yeah, yeah. Like an oort cloud for people that don't know the oort cloud is this idea when you have things you have Comets that can't last long because you like that.

That tail that you see on a comet that's material breaking off so they can't last millions of years. So where do the comets come from? Well, professor oort came up with a cloud. He named it after himself the oort cloud and so He says that just makes more material the the thing that jason's position is that what we can measure Is the round trip speed of light in other words if we're going to track light we have.

When you look at the way time works. You can't set a clock in two places. And know that they're synchronized. Oh, yeah, because you have gravity that the move the moving of the clock exchanges. It so there the because of those factors you can only test the light by shooting it off of a mirror far away.

And have and testing when it returns. But the thing we don't know is the one way direction the speed of light one direction. So in other words it could take You know what? We call the speed of light to get to the mirror, but it comes back instantly instantaneously.

Yes, and that could then explain where we're seeing the light instantaneously. From something that's millions of years.

Away, and that's my point. That's why I was that's what i'm trying to point out. Is that god making this this light it traveling in an instantaneous fashion? Yeah, and you know as he and I were talking about that he actually agreed.

He said he said yeah, that's a that that is a solid and a lot of theory is going into it that. That says that that's a really good sound.

Yeah. So, uh, brad, you have any other questions for us tonight.

No, I think that's it. Um, yeah, just one one last thing. I guess I just want to say something to justin peters um brother, thank you, um, just for your ministry, um god saved me, um going over about five years ago and um, he's.

He's used you tremendously to bless my life and I just can't thank you enough um for you. And um I just uh, I just want to just say thank you.

Brad thank you brother that um, that makes my day. Thank you. And I uh, I appreciate the encouragement actually. Today is a day. I could use a little encouragement. So praise the lord brother. Thank you so very much I appreciate it.

Thanks brad i'll put you in the backstage and uh, if you you have any more questions There's a private chat just let us know we'll bring you back in. Justin peters dot o rg. That's where you can check out his new website.

Very nice looking website after your the old one was was Needed the update for some years um. So let's we got some other people in backstage and some questions before I do I do want to a lot of people have been emailing me and contacting me from the show we did last week with ravi zacharias.

And the reason that a lot of people were contacting, uh contacting me basically was because some other Things happened in in I was going to say the news but really social media and It is that saitem bruggenkate, which many of us know he was here on our 100th anniversary.

Uh, he publicly announced on his facebook that he's stepping out of ministry um and We are saddened with that many people learned a lot from sai. Uh, we don't know the details and nor do we need to know the details of Uh his his moral failure, whatever that is.

But a lot of people are making the comment between sai and ravi and there is a distinct difference that we see between these two and and what we see is Sai did what ravi should have done sai had accountability with his pastors.

He he stated that it was his he's he is accountable to them. They know about it. This was you know with their decision that he's out of ministry that uh that he said he was he was disqualified from ministry um now.

The thing that you end up seeing here and the reason because many people Brought it up is I want to talk about the differences. Yes, you end up seeing in this that sai was showed repentance ravi did not.

Sai had accountability. Ravi did not. When it was brought to ravi he covered it up when it was brought to sai he repented publicly and made actions. He he he shut down his his teaching. He said he's not going to be teaching.

He's not gonna he's shutting down his public facebook page, I guess he's going to keep his private facebook page he's um Not going to be going to conferences and and things like this. So What I want you to see here is sai did.

What we would expect someone to do. Okay. What we would have hoped ravi. Zacharias would would have done. Yeah. There and let me just give warning for those who are there there are always some who They they want to know what's what is it?

What is it? What did he do? What happened? Well, let me let me answer that for you. Let me be really really clear and let you know none of your business. That's right. Okay. Now if he decides to come back into ministry if he's going to start teaching again.

Then yes, I would say he would have to Say what that is. Um, he he's not a pastor. He's not a past, you know, there are this isn't this thing where we have public pastors that we can apply uh first, uh first timothy 520 where if pastor sins you you you address it publicly so all will repent.

They're all being. I should say uh I don't think that that's necessary for him. And for those of you who are trying to figure out. What that is? It's none of your business. Yeah. Okay, it just isn't. And so what what should we be doing for sitem brunke right now?