"Those who are in the flesh cannot please God." Romans 8:8

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Okay, so that didn't answer my question. I said, how are those who are in the flesh those who are unforgiven those who are unregenerate?

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How can those people do something pleasing to God? He says those who are in the flesh and not

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Question Brock is does it please God when a person is baptized? sure

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We have to command so we thought it always pleases God to obey or so later

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Yes, no, I actually we're agreement there So my next question is how and Romans 8 8 that says those who are in the flesh those who are in the flesh

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Cannot please God. It's my understanding that those who are in the flesh are unforgiven of past sins. They are unregenerate

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They are in the flesh. They do not have the spirit. So how can those who are in the flesh?

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Please God. Well, first of all, you said your understanding was I think you said unregenerate

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Right that correct and you used say sanctification to say sanctify. No, okay, and you use

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Romans 8 Let me restate the question briefly Romans 8 it says those who are in the flesh

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Cannot please God. So my question is how can someone who's unforgiven unregenerate in the flesh do anything to please

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God like that? well, he's writing to a group of people who obeyed an external act and That external act according to the context of Romans 6 is baptism.

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So I have no problem talking about baptism That's the content So he's right to my question that he's writing to a group of people who had obeyed an external act and that external act

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Okay, so that didn't ask my question I said how are those who are in the flesh those who are unforgiven

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Those who are unregenerate, how can those people do something pleasing to God when he says those who are in the flesh?

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Cannot please God Your definition of unregenerate is not the

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Bible definition of regenerate So you're gonna have to you're gonna have to define your terms about regeneration or one being unregenerate

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So in the flesh my understanding of the context of Romans 8 you have those there Therefore there's no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus those who have the spirit

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Then you have unbelievers that are in the flesh that are hostile to the things of God and I'm asking you

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Your position because someone who's not baptized yet has not had their past sins forgiven.

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They would be Unregenerate under this umbrella and I'm asking you how can someone who is in the flesh unregenerate unforgiven?

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Do anything like baptisms, please God the same concept applies to repentance.

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Would you agree? No, okay So let's let's say with Romans then

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Romans 8 You keep going to Romans 8 go to the book of Romans all together and you're talking about Regenerated folks and degenerated folks.

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Okay, but Paul is writing to folks who had been Regenerated so before their baptism.

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No, they were baptized They were regenerated when they were baptized So how did someone who's in the flesh do anything to please

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God when Romans or when Paul says that no one in the flesh can Do anything to please God you're using

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Romans 8 to try to negate Romans 6 That's exactly what you're gonna Romans 6

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He's already discussed the next from the lack of obedience that they obey baptism is the context and you're using

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Romans 8 to try to negate that No, it actually flows together because he's talking about justification and sanctification and he goes back to that believers justified state