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Can we talk about Why we're doing what we're doing in terms of end abortion now local ministry, and then what?

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kind of vision we're trying to cast for How this should be engaged with Christians starting to go to the local magistrates

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What's what's the basis for doing that because I've had people ask me that I don't know if you have I mean Why are you going to City Council?

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Yeah, what do you think that will accomplish and What's your reasoning yeah, like give me a foundation well,

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I I think the the proverb I just mentioned I Think scriptures clear, and you know

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I give a good friend rusty Thomas credit for pointing that out in my own life

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Yeah, you know and we've seen instances right like in Kauai We've talked about this you guys go to the mill you go to you know preach it sons games or whatever like You see that when you're when you when you're actually there

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And you're proclaiming God's Word, and you're proclaiming truth like people respond to that you're yeah

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You're gonna get negative response you get positive response to that's right, and and I think Just there's no there again this goes back to the eschatology discussion.

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I'm not we don't have this is what we're getting to yeah I mean it. We don't have it's funny because I saw in the live comments someone asked

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Something about you know well is this really post post millennialism because you know look at,

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New York It's getting worse, and it's like right you know and so but it does come down to eschatology right because the church has shied away from speaking prophetically to the magistrates and in holding our our

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Councilman and our senators and in our government accountable to God's law right and so So there's been no prophetic vision that people have literally cast off for sure and that's where we are today

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And the only way to get get back To a position that is honoring to God is to proclaim his word and to proclaim his law right and I think

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It's so key the assumption behind what you're saying is that leaders those in positions of authority and government

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You're talking like they ought to obey Jesus now. Yep like in the present like Not at just some point in the distant future

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Yeah, so Romans 13 wasn't right like a once in once in the moment once in time thing like that still stands

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Yeah, that's what people will say though. They'll say well. Yeah, Jesus is King of Kings He's Lord of Lords, and he's he's ruling and reigning right now in his throne

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So they'll talk about the kingdom in terms of the kingdom has already come but it's not yet also

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Yeah, but as we talked about here before What's really meant by that? It's it's here, but not really right if I mean if you get down to what it means and we go to a passage like Psalm 2

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Right. Just we take Psalm 2 we take a passage like that It says why the nations are age and the people's plot in vain

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The kings of the earth set themselves and the rulers take counsel together against the Lord and against his anointed

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Saying let us burst their bonds apart and cast away their cords from us He who sits in the heavens laughs the

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Lord holds them in derision Then he will speak to them in his wrath Terrify them in his fury saying as for me

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I have set my king on Zion my holy hill and he goes on and he says Ask of me and I will give you the nations for your heritage

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Saying to the son whom he has begotten. Yeah, meaning installed as his king from the center of worship of God's people

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Ask of me and I'll make the nations your heritage and the ends of the earth your possession and then after all that Here comes the warning to the

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Kings now therefore O Kings be wise Be warned

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O rulers of the earth verse 11 serve Who the

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Lord? Yeah with fear right that there's a command going forward from the author that says kings of the earth reverence and serve the

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Lord Lest he be angry and you perish in the way you were to pay homage to the

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Sun Kissing the Sun paying allegiance to him your role as a magistrate is to serve

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Yahweh, yep The Lord God of Israel and then you quoted Romans 13 that talks about what the the the job of a magistrate is in terms of Punishing evildoers right protecting the righteous all of these things and then lest anyone be tempted to say that a passage like Psalm chapter 2 is

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But you know, let's say someone to say well, yeah, but that's later on The kings of the earth later on are required to obey

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Jesus But right now we're not to be involved in this political aspect of things We're to just bear witness and and and you know

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Be good witnesses just preach the gospel and take but take a look at Acts chapter 4 You take a look at Acts chapter 4 what's going on in the first century church.

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The Apostles are undergoing immense persecution They're being scattered. They're being brought up before the authorities and this is what they quote when they're captured by the authorities

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They are threatened not to speak anymore in the name of Jesus and Then they're let go and then they return to the believers and what do they quote

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Psalm 2 right Why did the Gentiles rage and the people's plot in vain?

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The kings of the earth set themselves and the rulers were gathered together against the Lord and against his anointed

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Jesus for truly in the city they were gathered together against your Holy Servant Jesus whom you anointed Herod Pontius Pilate the

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Gentiles and the peoples of Israel to do Whatever your hand and your plan had predestined to take place and then what happens in Acts chapter 5?

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They're brought before the authorities and the authorities are saying You're filling up Jerusalem with this teaching and you're trying to bring this man's blood upon us

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So the Apostles that was the charge leveled against the Apostles. You're trying to bring wait a minute You're trying to bring this innocent man's blood upon us

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Right, and so the Apostles in the New Testament post cross post resurrection post ascension

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Quoting the psalm that requires magistrates and kings and rulers and those in authority to obey

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Jesus or they're gonna perish They apply to the present day Yeah so my answer to the person just by way of a bit of beginning as to why we go and we speak at these city councils and Command these people in positions of authority to obey

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Jesus's Psalm chapter 2 Psalm chapter 2 and The authority of Christ as ruler of the kings of the earth.

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That's how the Bible defines Jesus's office. He's ruler now of the kings of the earth and they must obey him and the

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Apostles apply That text to the present reality and this was 2 ,000 years ago

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Yeah, so from this moment forward right Christ is the Lord has installed his King on Zion.