Origin on Trial by Christopher Ting Phd

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We've had 70 speakers. Dr. Ting makes 71 tonight. And that is who we have here tonight.

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We definitely have a creation science topic tonight. Dr. Ting comes to us all the way from Japan, although he was actually born in Singapore.

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He earned his bachelor's degree in mechanical engineering and master's degree in experimental physics from the

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University of Tokyo on two scholarships from the Japanese government, administered from Singapore.

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Then he earned a PhD in theoretical physics from the National University of Singapore in 1994.

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He has had many published papers in several different fields, physics, biophysics, computer science, and quantitative finance, as well as a textbook on the last.

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He is now a professor at the School of Informatics and Data Science at Hiroshima University.

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His main research interests are physics and the application of data science and machine learning.

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So with that, Dr. Ting, we're happy to turn it over to you. Thank you for having me on the show.

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Today I'm going to talk about origin and do something that begins by asking the question, is it rational for Christians to believe in big evolution rather than big creation?

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So that's a rhetorical question. And I want to say emphatically that it is totally rational to believe in biblical creation.

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So that's the conclusion for tonight. Now, the topics I intend to cover include what is science and talk a little bit about Einstein's general relativity, the

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Big Bang model, and the big problems in the Big Bang model.

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Then finally, I want to touch on biblical creation. Let me start by introducing myself.

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I was born in Singapore to a non -Christian family in 1987 at this national stadium, packed with young people.

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Maybe you can find me here or here or here. And this is

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Billy Graham. This is Billy Graham. He came to Singapore to preach the gospel.

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I was there, and then I didn't quite at first believe, but I took up the challenge to read the

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Bibles myself. I want to find it out for myself. And gradually,

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I began to realize that how sinful human beings are. We don't have to look far to see what happened in Ukraine.

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Devastation out there. I also found out how sinful

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I was. And that's where I need salvation, and that's where I came to know

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Christ and trust in him. So that's the introduction of myself.

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And interestingly, Billy Graham has a driver when he was a young man.

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Actually, they were close friends. His name is Charles Templeton.

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He said farewell to God. Sayonara to God. He said sayonara to God. And he said that he couldn't quite believe in the

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Genesis account. And then he told Billy Graham in page seven of his book, he said, but Billy, it's simply not possible any longer to believe, for instance, the biblical account of creation.

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The world wasn't created over a period of days, a few thousand years ago. It has evolved over millions of years.

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It's not a matter of speculation, it's demonstrable fact.

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Very unfortunately, he believed in the wrong things. In fact, all the evolution, all these big evolutions are all speculation.

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They are not demonstrable. He has a different view about science.

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I wish that he had some training in science to distinguish between different kinds of science.

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And we also read in the Bible that when God created, he created the heaven and the earth.

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So in the beginning, the space was big enough for the earth.

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But according to the Big Bang model, the space was smaller than a proton, even smaller than a proton.

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So how is it possible for a space like the earth to be like a proton?

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It's just like comparing a pebble with a giant stone.

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And also in the beginning, God created earth, right? In the beginning, God created the earth.

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But according to the Big Bang model, the earth was formed 10 billion years after the

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Big Bang. At the beginning, 10 billion years after the Big Bang.

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And also that the earth initially was covered with water. And then oceans started to be formed according to the command of God.

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But then in the Big Bang big evolution model, the earth was covered with lava, dense lava.

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And there was no ocean. And finally, the earth was created before the sun.

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And according to the Big Bang model, the earth was formed after the sun, after the solar system.

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So how could it be possible for two different accounts to be compatible? I want to call out to people who believe in Big Bang model to examine these facts.

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Okay, what then is science? This is the universe that can be seen from the space telescope.

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And that's a beautiful universe that God has created. I want to speak a little bit about the differences between observational science versus original science.

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First of all, observational science is not historical, not historical.

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Whereas original science is historical. Let me explain.

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What is meant by historical? It means something happened in the past. For instance, we know that President Lincoln existed in the past, right?

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That's historical. We cannot produce the same Lincoln today.

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It's not producible. Just like the Big Bang, it is an event that happened according to them a long, long time ago.

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And we cannot produce the Big Bang event anymore today.

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Because Big Bang, the moment of Big Bang has never been observed.

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Also, it happened in the past, and therefore it is unobservable.

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It cannot be observed today at all. We can only take inference from the data that we observe today to make some sort of a guess about what happened in the past.

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Let me summarize these two different fields of science. They are not created equal.

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One talks about the origin, that's history, whereas the science is not about the origin, such as the observations of Jupiter, of Saturn, of Venus, Mars, and Mercury.

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All these are observations. We know that they exist. We can observe them by test scores.

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But Big Bang is not observable. You cannot see them with itself.

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Just to summarize a little bit further, the operational science or the observational science, all these pieces of information can be tested, can be observed at present time.

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Whereas historical science, such as the origin of the universe, the origin of the solar system, the origin of our moon, all these events that happened in the past, they are not observable today.

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They cannot be reproduced anymore. For operational science, we can perform experiments to hold one variable fixed and then change the other variable to see the effects.

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But we cannot experiment with history. History is not experimentable.

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Let me move on to another field of observational science. It's called the redshift.

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So what is the redshift? First, I need to explain a little bit about the spectrum emitted by hydrogen atom, according to quantum physics.

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And on Earth, you can see something like this. You can see the black lines.

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All these are the absorptions line, and they represent the energy that the hydrogen atom can absorb.

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And that is what you see here, according to different wavelengths in nanometer.

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So that's one here. That's on Earth. We know that most of the elements in the whole universe are all hydrogen atoms.

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So we can see in Galaxy 1, the same patterns, but notice that there's a slight difference, right?

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Galaxy 1 versus Galaxy 2. And on Earth, they are slightly shifted to the redder end of that spectrum, which means that the wavelength becomes longer.

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Compared to the one on Earth. So that's called the redshift.

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And that can be observed today from different galaxies. So these still are observational facts.

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There's no dispute about that. Now, so that's one example of observational science.

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Let me move on to another observational science. It's called

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Einstein's theory of relativity. That's the underlying theory for gravity.

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And very simply, what is Einstein's theory? Basically, it says that the space -time geometry is equal to the matter and energy density in the universe, up to a scaling constant called kappa.

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It's called the Einstein constant. And just to explain a little bit about what is meant by that theory, that equation, it says that the matter will bend the space and slows the time, slows the ticking of the time.

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The larger the mass is, the curvature becomes a lot larger.

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From the sun to the neutron star to even the black hole, you can see that the spatial fabric of the universe is being bent by all these massive objects that we can observe out there in the space using our telescope.

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Now what about slowing the time? Interestingly, if you spend, suppose, one day near the black hole, then you come back to Earth, you will find that the

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Earth has passed 100 years, for example. So one day near the black hole is equivalent to 100 years on Earth.

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So that's the slowing of time. Because of gravity, the gravity slows the time as well.

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And this shows you how the curvature of the space will make the matter move around a massive object.

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And there are many experiments, proofs for Einstein theory. All these are repeatably observable.

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For instance, the starlight during the solar eclipse, you can see the star that is being bent, that starlight is being bent by the sun.

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And therefore, you can see in this position during the solar eclipse.

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But normally, when the sun is not around there, you see that it's at this position.

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So there's a slight difference. And that can be accounted for by the

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Einstein theory of general relativity. The time slows, that has been proven as well by flying the planes in different directions with the clock on board of the aircraft versus the clock on Earth.

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They can do the measurements, perform the analysis and find that they are agreeable with Einstein theory.

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Likewise, for this perihelion of the mercury around the sun, they can also be explained by Einstein theory.

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So therefore, that is observational science, that is operational science.

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So that's really science. It has nothing to do with the origin of the sun, or the origin of mercury, or the origin of time.

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Can you see the difference? Hopefully you can see that difference. It's a huge difference.

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And that brings me to the big bang model that is historical science.

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It wants to know what happened at the beginning. Before the big bang model,

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Einstein himself believed that the entire universe was static.

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The universe doesn't expand according to his worldview. But somebody found out that, in fact, the universe will keep on expanding.

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That brings me to the redshift again. Now this time round, we have to interpret the redshifts as the evidence for the expansion of the universe.

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According to their model, the redshift is due to the expansion of the universe.

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When the universe expands, the wavelength becomes stretched.

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And therefore, the wavelength becomes longer towards the red end of the spectrum.

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So that's what they interpret. The distant galaxy, for instance here, compared to the one on Earth, is a lot being shifted to the right hand side.

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To that larger wavelength.

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So a lot of people don't know about big bang. It started from a very small volume, then exploded somehow, then became larger and larger and larger.

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Then we have a lot of things happen after that. And that's what the big bang model is about.

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It used to be very dense, very hot, very small, then expanded.

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Then that's the beginning of time, according to the big bang theory. But not many people know about the dark secrets behind the big bang model.

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First of all, they have to assume that the laws of science have all been found today.

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All the laws of science have been found and that they are applicable in all parts of the universe.

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In other words, there's no more law to be discovered. That's a big assumption.

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The other assumption is called the cosmological principles. It says that the

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Earth is not special. The Earth is not at a special location in the universe.

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Everywhere looks the same. And if you look in different directions, they all look the same.

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They means the universe or the distribution of the galaxies in the universe, they all look exactly the same.

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Let me explain a little bit about what is meant by homogeneous, but not isotopic.

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Homogeneous means that all the space time is being filled by matter. On average, that's how you look.

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It's more or less the same, right? But it's not isotropic, because if you are at this position, then you cannot see the other side of the universe and vice versa.

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What about isotropic, but not homogeneous? Now imagine you take a random location in the universe, then you put yourself at that center, you look around the universe.

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But the universe is not homogeneous, because there are some patches that are not occupied by matter.

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So it's not homogeneous, but it's isotropic. Every direction looks the same.

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You look forward, you look backward, left to the right, they all look the same.

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So with these two assumptions, what is the view of the universe according to cosmological principles?

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It looks like this. Imagine every point here is the center, then you observe everywhere is the same, homogeneous.

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Even here can be the center, here can be the center, then you take a look around you, you find that the universe is exactly the same on average.

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And that brings me to this another secret that few people know about.

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It's called the Friedmann's equation. Now this is a guy who published a paper in 1923, 22, about 100 years ago.

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He was the one who discovered that according to Einstein's equations, the universe, in fact, expands rather than being static.

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At first, Einstein thought that this guy must be wrong. And in fact,

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Einstein wrote a note to a journal saying that his paper is wrong.

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And that is what happened in the history of physics.

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That's very interesting, because Einstein has such a strong view about his static universe.

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So what happened then? Using the assumptions that I discussed earlier,

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Friedmann reduced the Einstein equations into his equations.

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Then he made further assumptions to reduce two equations into one ordinary differential equation.

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And that's an equation that you can solve at the college level. I have set one assignment on solving that Friedmann's equations.

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Can be solved by anybody. What is interesting is the solution is called the

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A, a function of time, a function of time. And what's

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A? It's basically the relative size of the universe.

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Relative size of the universe is a function of time. It's called a scale factor.

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Now if you look at this graph that I plotted, you see that from time zero, which is today, to the future, billions of years into the future.

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And according to that solution, it scales as time to the power of two thirds.

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And that's a graph showing that if the theory is correct, then we should expect to see 20 billions later from today, that the size of the universe is going to be twice as large as today.

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Think about it. Can anybody live for 20 billion years to check?

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Well, we can only observe today is just one point along this scale of billions of years, just one tiny point.

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This is an illustration that the cosmologists like to use to illustrate the spatial expansion of the universe.

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So they assume that today, that is the universe, then 20 billion years later, that becomes larger and larger and larger.

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Notice that the size of the galaxy doesn't change. Why they say that?

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Well, it's because there's enough matter, there's a gravitational bonding between different objects in that universe, and therefore it won't expand.

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Indeed, we don't see our universe expand, neither do we see our sun getting further away from us, right?

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So that's the illustration of expansion. Okay, so that's going forward.

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Here comes the darkest secret. They say that if the universe is expanding now and getting bigger, then it must have been a lot smaller in the past.

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So they run the clock backwards, and they started from time zero, then assume this trajectory, determined by the

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Friedman's equation, and then they approach getting smaller from the scale of one of today, then getting smaller, smaller and smaller, finally to zero.

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Something very near zero. And that, according to them, is the beginning of time.

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So we have about, according to that, simplest cosmological of Friedman's is supposed to be about 9 billion years.

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That happened a long time ago. That was the beginning of time, according to Friedman's simplest cosmological model.

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Now, we know that the universe, according to the big evidence, happened about 14 billion years ago.

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So how do we account for the difference between 9 billion and 14 billion?

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And that is the illustration of contraction. They assume that our universe is here, then becomes smaller and smaller.

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Now I have a question to ask. They said that the universe itself does not expand, but when the universe are so close to each other, there's enough matter.

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And if we go back in time, and then go forward in time, you find that it cannot expand anymore, because all the galaxies are sort of very near each other.

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And then they have that gravitational pulling among them, and they shouldn't expand, just like you don't expect the space within the universe to expand.

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So there's something that they don't quite address this particular phenomenon.

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Nevertheless, let's look at deterministic system. First, it's meant by deterministic.

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If you look at these orbits of our planets in our solar system, they move according to the orbit, you can predict way ahead, what would be the position of a particular planet.

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And you can also run backward. What was the position of that planet, let's say, 10 years ago, even hundreds of years ago, and that's deterministic.

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Einstein theory is also deterministic. You also notice that the closer the planet is to the sun, the faster it moves around, right, and the one that is outside, the one that is further away from the sun, tends to move a lot slower.

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And that's the common sense according to Newton's physics, that's

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Newtonian physics. Okay, why do

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I talk about that? Now, our sun is somewhere around here in our

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Milky Way. And according to that circular motions that you've seen or elliptical motion that you've seen, the stars at that spiral element should move a lot slower compared to the stars around the center of the galaxy, right, that is what we observed earlier on.

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But what they have found is that they are surprised.

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Instead of moving a lot slower, like this curve is suggesting, that's the center universe, that's distant away from the center, and according to Newtonian physics, that should be around here.

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By the way, it's not necessary to apply Einstein theory to talk about all this velocity, right, you just need

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Newtonian physics, and that elliptical motion is Newtonian physics, that's

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Kepler's laws. And their observations found something very different.

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Instead of being slower at longer distance, they found that it's more or less the same, it's very far away, much faster than what they expected.

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They expected around 50 kilometers per second, whereas their experiments found that it's more than 100 kilometers per second.

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So what happened? Okay, somebody introduced dark matter, there's not enough mass, therefore, they wanted to put in more mass, and that dark matter has never been observed.

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Has never been observed, and it doesn't interact with light, it doesn't emit any light, it only has gravitational effect.

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So how do we observe them? They said that it permeates the entire universe, so we should observe dark matter on Earth as well.

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But so far, nobody has found it. Another one is called the dark energy.

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And what they said is that they look at the red sheaths that measure the distance, they also look at the brightness of the stars, some kind of stars that allow them to calibrate their scale, and then they do an analysis, and they have a standard line here.

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And you notice that there are two different sort of deviation from that standard line.

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And according to them, they found the blue lines, rather than the yellow or the red lines that you see on this graph.

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What it means is that there's a lesser red sheath at any given point in time in the past, and therefore, expansion is accelerating, and therefore, there's less mass.

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So it means that the universe not only expands, but also expands at an accelerated rate.

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This is key one, expanding even accelerates the expansion. And to account for that extra expansion, they introduce dark energy.

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Dark energy, something that nobody has observed. They can only measure through their models.

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Using the models, they infer the dark matter. And that's what happened in their analysis.

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Well, they claim that dark energy comprises about 70 % of the entire universe, and 35 % of dark matter, whereas the usual matters that we see, like galaxies, like different stars, and things like that, all these are only about 5%.

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So that means to say 95 % of the universe is dark, either dark matter or dark energy.

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Now, the word dark is a secret code among physicists to suggest something unknown, something mysterious, something that has not been discovered.

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Well, this is awesome, right? And if I were to introduce dark matter and dark energy into the

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Freedman's equation, then I can have this plot of the trajectory from today times zero.

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That's the scale one from today, then solve the equation, and found that it keeps on accelerating, and then becomes smaller and smaller in the past, around about 14 billion years ago, when supposedly time started.

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And today we only occupy a tiny little spot here. From one point, we try to extrapolate billions of years ahead, also billions of years to the past.

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So what is meant by extrapolation? Let me explain with this graph.

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You have data, then you do analysis, then you extrapolate. That's a dashed line.

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The actual curve is here. The actual system is here. So that's the data, that's the observation, that's extrapolation.

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That is not observable. The real dynamics is that curve, something that looks like this.

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Therefore, extrapolation is not observable. We do not know the actual behavior of the universe in the past and what happened in the future.

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So that is, well, that's what we have. Okay, all right.

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Now, let me move on. Hopefully you understand this particular chart, and that's very important to realize that we can only observe up to this point.

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Then the rest, all these are extrapolation. Right, and that's a picture that you see from many, many websites, and they tend to draw something like this.

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Let me just say that this is a drawing by artist. This is not the actual processes that have been observed, that have been recorded by videos.

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It's just an illustration, very similar to Darwinian's illustration of being a monkey, then become more like man through different ages of apes, and so on.

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And that is a very similar sort of illustration that they like to put up.

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And what they say is that the Earth happened billions of years after the beginning of time.

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And before that, all the atoms were of such high energy that they started to collect each other, and then broke off, then started again.

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Then until the universe become larger, then it start to cool and form hydrogen atom.

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And they said, well, you see hydrogen atom, right? Therefore, Big Bang must be true.

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That is the argument. That's one argument. The other argument is that we also observe what they call the cosmic microwave background.

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That is the temperature distribution of the universe for the space satellite to measure the temperature in all directions of the entire universe.

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And they represent that temperature distribution with this graph, having the universe more like a sort of a wrap around, then you break it up, then it becomes an ellipse.

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And that's higher temperature here, slightly higher than average, slightly lower than average.

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They claim that this is one of the best evidence for Big Bang theory.

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So is it? Now, let me move on to it, tell you a little bit about the big problems of Big Bang.

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There's something few people talk about, because they want to believe in Big Bang.

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Therefore, they only talk about the evidence for Big Bang. But the same evidence can go against them as well.

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On the list is what they call the crisis in cosmology. This is a measure of a very important parameter of cosmology, of modern cosmology.

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It's called the Haber's constant. And using different methods, one by the

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Americans, led by a Nobel Prize winner, the other one is from Europe, the

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Planck collaboration in Europe, and they have different numbers for the same parameter.

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And the uncertainty of the measurement don't overlap.

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These two uncertainties don't overlap. They should, if we measure the same thing.

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But what they found is that, much as they tried, with more data coming in, the error bars became smaller and smaller.

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And there's no way to make these two different values of measurement to match.

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Just imagine, when you try to measure a body temperature using different methods, they should give you the same readings, right, plus, minus, here and there.

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But there are different values. And according to the values given by the supernovae project team, the universe would be 1 billion years younger than the one from Planck collaboration.

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1 billion years is a lot of time. Okay, that's one problem.

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That's a big problem. They call it crisis. The other one is about the homogeneity of the universe.

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And look at different direction from the telescope on Earth, they observe the distribution of the galaxies in different direction from 16, from 8 to 16 in the anticlockwise direction, 8 to 16, that direction.

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This is the one from 4 to, well, 0 to 20, and that different direction, opposite direction from the

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Earth. And they found is that one part has more galaxy distribution, right, here compared to here.

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And you also see that galaxy tend to distribute according to some circular arc that you see here, one here and the other one here.

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And a little bit here, not as clear, but this is really very clear.

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And their theories suggest that they meet that homogeneous assumption, but the observations do not agree with that assumptions.

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Something is wrong. Furthermore, the

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CMB, Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation, looks like this,

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I showed you previously, and they also found a large region of the universe have a lot lower temperature.

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That means there are practically no matter, no emitter of energy in that region, in that direction, in that region.

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So that is also a contradiction against the assumption of homogeneity.

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And more interestingly, recently they have found what they call a cosmological axis of evil.

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They do some analysis, using some decomposition of the temperature, and then they found different points and this axis of the universe.

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And amazingly, that plane, called an ecliptic plane, across the universe is exactly parallel to the plane of our planetary motion around the sun.

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These two planes are parallel to each other. That should not happen. Because according to their theories, the solar system was formed about 9 billion years after the

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Big Bang. So how could the CMB, that happened about 40 ,000 years after the

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Big Bang, match with the solar system formed after 10 billion years?

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There's something going wrong. It's against the cosmological principles, and therefore they call it evil.

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They call it evil. To round up, what we see is that there are many contradictions in the

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Big Bang model. The data don't agree with the assumptions.

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So if something does not agree with the assumption, the model built upon the wrong assumptions should not be trustable.

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That sounds logical to me. That sounds hopefully logical to you as well.

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Okay, let me talk about the most embarrassing findings in cosmology.

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Even they themselves claim that that is a huge problem.

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That's very embarrassing. To accommodate for those observations that are anomalous to their expectation, they introduce the cosmological constant.

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So you have the space -time geometry, you have the matter -density energy, on the right -hand side, on the left -hand side, they added this extra piece with that constant.

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And according to their theory, which is by quantum field theory, they found that the lambda is here, and the empirical measurements, by some inferences, they arrive at some value.

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If the theory is correct, the ratio between these two numbers must be equal to one, right?

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That is, theory equal to empirical. But it's like 10 to the power of 120 order difference.

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So one is like one, the other one is like 10 ,000 or 10 billions, even larger than that.

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How can a theory be wrong by orders of magnitude?

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In my engineering training, if a model differs from the empirical measurement, even by a factor of 10, we throw away the model.

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It doesn't work in reality. That's what it means. And most recently, more recently, that is being published in Nature Journal, and according to the

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James Webb Space Telescope, in the Big Bang paradigm, astronomers have expected the further away the stars and galaxies are, that means it's near the

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Big Bang event. So the further star in their paradigm is an indication of time in the past.

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And time in the past, the galaxy shouldn't be formed, they should be quite primitive, quite young, and also not big.

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Yet, they found is that without surprise and amazement, all the galaxies, maybe not all, but most of the galaxies look young, look big, like what we observe today.

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So something is going wrong. It's very near to the time of Big Bang, yet they said that, well, they have no explanation so far.

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I suspect that they had to push back the Big Bang time, way back, maybe like 20 billion years into the past.

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But now, they have a big problem, and more observations are telling us that, well, something is going wrong in the

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Big Bang, as well as evolution of the galaxy models that they have.

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Very quickly, let me go on to talk about the bigger creation. Now, this guy is called

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Carl Sagan, suggested that our bodies were made of stardust.

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The atoms on the left hand and the atoms on the right hand came from different stars that were dead a long time ago by supernova explosion.

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Now, if that theory is correct, that means all the heavy elements coming from the supernova, they reach the

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Earth, but the Earth is spinning around, the Earth is spinning around, and therefore you would expect the distribution of gold to be homogeneous on Earth, because the supernova lasts for about, on average, a few months, a few months of radiation from the supernova carrying the heavy elements onto the

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Earth. And therefore, by the spin of, you would expect the distribution of gold and silver to be homogeneous on Earth.

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In the creation hypothesis, according to Genesis, chapter 2, verse 11 and 12, it says that the name of the first river from the

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Aden, Garden of Eden, is Pishon. Pishon, it flows around the whole land of Habila, only the whole land of Habila where there is gold.

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They found gold in that land, but not elsewhere. The gold of that land is good.

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So, it means that according to Genesis, chapter 2, the gold and silver should not be evenly distributed.

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So, what we observe today, and that is only gold can be found in gold mine and silver in the silver mine.

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We don't see gold around you. You don't find silver in your neighborhood.

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To conclude, very quickly, the

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Bible clearly states that, For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day.

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And that is one of the Ten Commandments. If you read chapter 20, it talks about the

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Ten Commandments of God given to Moses. And also in chapter 31, it says that,

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It is a sign between me and the sons of Israel forever, for in six days the Lord made heaven and earth.

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So, if we take away creation, we have to delete Ten Commandments and list this portion.

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A lot has to be deleted from the Bible. The Bible has many verses on creation.

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So, that is something that we cannot afford to let go, and that shouldn't be.

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And to take away, first of all, I want to suggest that,

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Big Bang and biblical creation are not compatible, are incompatible, not compatible.

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Both are candidates for origin, both are candidates. And which version of the history of the origin is really true?

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And observations show that there are many fatal problems in the Big Bang model. I don't believe in Big Bang model because there are many problems.

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That is my starting point. And being a Christian, I see the connection, I see the implications.

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And finally, I want to end with this very profound verse from the Bible. From Ecclesiastes, he says that he, that is

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God, has made everything appropriate in his time. He has also set eternity in their heart.

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Yet, so that man will not find out the work which God has done. In the context that you read, from the beginning even to the end.

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So he cannot find out what God actually has done in the beginning. We cannot find out what will happen when

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God recreates the universe. But we just have to trust

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God. And knowing that God's words are always true, God can never lie.

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All the apostles, all the men of God used by God can never lie to us.

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And thank you for your attention. That was really good.

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Thank you. And thank you for the gospel at the end or speaking about the faithfulness of God's word.

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Okay, Terry, go ahead. Okay. Yeah, that was really great. Thank you. That was very informative and engaging.

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In fact, somebody here said, no sleeping tonight. Although, I don't know when they would fall asleep because we have good speakers.

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But anyway, definitely not tonight. And they would like to know how to get your book.

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So let's start with that. Well, I think the book is on sale on Amazon and elsewhere.

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So that should be okay. I bought some discounted copies with me.

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Unfortunately, most of you are in the States. So maybe

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I can send some, but not all. So some of you may want to read.

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Yeah, that is the disadvantage of having the Zoom instead of in -person.

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The book is around $27 or $28 per copy.

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The soft copy, that should be appropriate, affordable. I'm sure it's worth it.

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So Robin has a bunch of questions. And I think some other people have some too, but we'll start with this one.

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Can you explain, her question is, does gravity slow down time? Okay, gravity slows down time is, let me try to think about it for a moment to find an analogy.

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Okay, it's just like, well, as an illustration, as an illustration, imagine the clock has to tick, right?

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From one to the other, from one tick to the other tick. And gravity is so strong on that tick that you not try to move it forward.

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Rather you try to stick, because of the sticky nature, sticky nature of gravity.

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So just like the light is being bent. So likewise, if you take away the distance, that's your time.

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Therefore, time will also slow down near a very strong gravitational field.

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So it's like the pulling effect, even on photon, as it were, and photon will travel, but then you also be affected by the curvature of the space around a big object, a very massive object.

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And this also means that if you take away distance, that's the time. As an illustration, it's not the complete picture, but hopefully, otherwise we have to go through the math.

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Oh, no, no, that's okay. I just thought that, what's his name, Einstein theorized that the farther you were in space, the slower time went, or faster,

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I can't remember what it was. I learned this as something that Einstein theorized, but I was just wondering where you stood on that.

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So do you think time is a constant? It's like constant all the time, or do you think it can be swayed by gravity?

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Time is really a very mysterious thing, even in physics. According to Einstein theory, that I believe is true, is that time actually slows down, because we have observed the slowing of time using experiments.

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So that has experimental evidence to support the notion that time will slow down near a very strong gravitational field, and that has been observed, and therefore, that is believable.

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Awesome, thank you. Nothing to do with origin. That is what you can even observe today.

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Of course, that difference is very small, and you are right. If you are outside the space, out there in the space, compared to the one on Earth, the clock in the space, you tick faster than on Earth.

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You have, because there's less gravity in the space compared to Earth. So if you want to live younger, go to the space and live there.

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Less gravity out there. Okay. Robin's next question is, you mentioned you talked about the physicist

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Friedman, and you were talking about him in the slide about the universe expanding, and she'd like to know if he was the first one who noticed that the universe was expanding, and other people like Isaac Newton noticed that before.

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Yeah, good question. Friedman was the first one who noticed that the space, according to his theory, was expanding, and after that, there's one priest, a

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Roman Catholic priest by the name of Lumetro. Lumetro also solved the same

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Einstein equation and found almost the same solutions as what

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Friedman had published. Both people came to the same theoretical conclusion that the universe was expanding.

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So that is what happened. Thank you. Hopefully that answers your question.

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Yeah, so on the same topic about the universe expanding, our friend Jeff is asking, the gaps between the galaxies increase in size, but the galaxies themselves apparently do not.

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Is this an artifact of making your slide, or is this an accurate representation of what they think is actually happening?

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And he says, maybe, I don't know if these questions all go together.

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I'll ask them, and then if we need to break them apart, I can remind you about the other ones, but he together says, yeah.

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One thing I have to say is that the perihelion of the Mercury around the Sun, that is a lot of acceleration, because I have to make them noticeable.

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Therefore, become a little bit exaggerated. Nonetheless, the effects are still there.

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Tiny effect, just to make it larger for people to notice.

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The difference is very small, actually very small, but that perihelion of the

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Mercury is being exaggerated. Other than that, most of the things are quite accurate, and some of them are taken from the published papers.

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Okay. He's also asking, do the distances between the stars and galaxies increase with the expansion of the universe?

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And also, what about the distances between atoms? Okay. That's an interesting question.

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Habas has discovered that the larger distance away from the

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Earth, the galaxies are moving faster. If you measure the speed of a galaxy, let's say one mile away from Earth versus one that is two miles away, you're going to find that the one two miles away will move faster than one mile away from us.

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That's what Habas has discovered. However, that Habas laws are only statistical.

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That means on average, that's what happens, but there are some galaxies' motion that are not exactly on the line that Habas has drawn.

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And also about the distribution of the galaxies, I've shown you that some galaxies tend to cluster around certain sort of arc from the perspective of the

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Earth. And there are lesser galaxies somewhere and more galaxies around the arc.

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And therefore, it suggests that the universe is not really that homogeneous after all.

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And this is called the large scale structure of the universe. But we observe them.

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We do not know why. There's no explanation for that. All right.

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The next question. So you had a slide and you talked a lot about what the secularists view about dark matter and dark energy, but can you kind of explain from a creation perspective the take on dark matter?

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Okay. Dark matter is introduced to sort of explain why the stars outside further away from the center of the galaxy does not spin out from that galaxy.

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And therefore, maybe dark matter may exist. That is believable.

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But there are some other theories that can explain why some of the stars at the outer arm of the spiral galaxy will still remain in the orbit or the modified

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Newton's forces. So there's some theory that can explain the way that dark matter, so to speak.

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Dark matter by that modified Newtonian physics. Got it.

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Okay. Thank you very much. Okay. All right. We have a couple of more personal questions for you.

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When you do this talk for people in Japan, do they receive it well?

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Does it help? It's overwhelming. Some of them were surprised. It's a very small gathering.

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All of them are very much found that informative.

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My talk was informative and also inspired them to read

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Bible more and more carefully. Praise the Lord for that.

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Yeah. Maybe I think, you know, we were talking before we went on the air about some of the difference between the environment there in Japan versus the universities here, that they're more open -minded and open to hearing even the

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Christian perspective. So that's really great. So Jessica would like to know, how did your family respond when you became a

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Christian? How did I become a Christian? When you became a

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Christian, how did your family take that? Oh, okay. That's an interesting question. My family was quite passive when it comes to religion because I was in a so -called mission school run by Catholics, and therefore they had no objection for me to become a

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Christian. Eventually, thankfully, thanks to God, my parents also became

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Christians before they went on to be with the Lord. Oh, praise

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God. My younger sister also became Christian, and my eldest sister, unfortunately, well, they have not yet received

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Christ, but they are quite friendly to us when we talk about the gospel.

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They're quite open. Okay. Well, we will definitely continue to pray for them.

01:09:12

And that's the end of our questions for right now, at least for the public side of things.

01:09:18

So before we go, if you can tell people one more time how they can find you and how they can find your book, and then

01:09:25

I'll tell people how they can find us again, and then we'll have a little more time just in the

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Zoom together. Well, for my book, if you go to Amazon, you can find the book.

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And I have a personal email account, and I'm willing to give to anybody who wants to find out more about the

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Bible, about creation, about all this stuff that I have talked about. Did you want to tell people that email address right now, or you just wanted us to share it if people ask us?

01:10:06

I think maybe it's better for you to share with other people. Yeah, we won't put it on YouTube.

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Good thinking. All right. And again, we are Creation Fellowship Santee, and you can find links to our past presentations by going to tinyurl .com

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01:10:43

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01:10:53

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And if you would like to get Dr. Ting's email address, that's the other way to do that as well. So with that, we're going to go ahead and sign off for our live stream and our recording.